-.- really??? really?? lol listen we know you guys juat want to play the game grief and laugh. I get it I really do. about 5 months ago people started pitching in to war dec the people who grief them in incs..... it isn't btl.. it isn't tdf...

its people who you angered. you personally never kileld me, a corp or an alliance mate or even a friend. when people send killmails and you reach a certain number we ask for public donations if we get everything we need we go with the community's request to dec.

Nothing personal. I know you guys deal with god squad and frankly it doesn't bother me if you dont fight. if they keep paying someone gets hired that is just the way it goes.

when you get bored... contact me and I vote up a vote if they want to stop deccing... in general that is how it works.

Messenger only <----

btw I do still hate you :P

oh by the way if it means anything to you 193 peopel pitched in. enough for 3 months on you. hope you are happy

Then Skunkworks got a dec from God Squad. That was a bit of a head scratcher for us, as we had just started making friendly with them a bit over a mutual war against No Kings. We had a convo with God Squad and they claimed that a bunch of people from the BTL channel hired them to dec us.

Only a pubbie would think that people other than Goons use the term "pubbie".

As a representative from BTL pub I'd like to firmly point out that BTL operators, moderators or FC's generally in charge have not issued any war declarations on behalf of BTL Pub.
Our simple goal is to provide incursions for everyone, everywhere at anytime. When you say "people from BTL" that means pilots who use our service (channel) that are non-affiliated with BTL pub.
Your reasoning for a "war declaration" is therefore put on a wrong basis.

v0v Talk to carmelos53, since he made himself out to be a representative of BTL pub.

Is that who that is? Hmm, I guess I laid blame on the wrong set of incursionbears.

Not that it'll effect the operations at all.

Good to know, though.

And a last thing, about 30-40 billion isk is being generated in highsec incursions at best peak times during the week an hour.

So by your own admission a handful of dudes can reduce the overall productivity of incursions by about 5%. Imagine what will happen if we escalate this. If there's one thing the Skunkworks excels at, it's taking things WAY too far.

So by your own admission a handful of dudes can reduce the overall productivity of incursions by about 5%. Imagine what will happen if we escalate this. If there's one thing the Skunkworks excels at, it's taking things WAY too far.

Quoted for truth.

As a representative from BTL pub I'd like to firmly point out that BTL operators, moderators or FC's generally in charge have not issued any war declarations on behalf of BTL Pub.
Our simple goal is to provide incursions for everyone, everywhere at anytime. When you say "people from BTL" that means pilots who use our service (channel) that are non-affiliated with BTL pub.
Your reasoning for a "war declaration" is therefore put on a wrong basis.

Now let me rephrase your declaration of war into something we can all generally agree on.

"Rich highsec pubbies hired mercs to wardec us and now we want payback."

If there's anything else you might wonder about or any questions, feel free to drop me a mail.


PS:
Saying highsec incursions is one of the best ISK features is a bit flawed. You do realise that highsec incursions only pay out 60 % of the reward that is paid out in nullsec and lowsec?
Oh, and that the lowsec mothership site has a chance of dropping a revenant BPC that can be sold for 40 + b isk?

I'd also like you to be aware of the ISK generated in incursions fuels a lot of wonderful PvP fights, because more people can afford to fly their t3's or t2 ships into lowsec without having to worry too much.

And a last thing, about 30-40 billion isk is being generated in highsec incursions at best peak times during the week an hour.
You need to step your game up a bit more before we notice anything on our wallets. Maybe assaults and headquarter fleets?
Aim big guys, aim for the stars.

One cannot make an admission and have it cited as a verified statistic. Further, one cannot quote for emphasis and assert it substantiates truth.

/facepalm
...surrounded by idiots.

So you simultaneously argue that incursions don't pay out that great and that losing your faction BS wont hurt your wallet? Nice one, you just made another new friend. See you soon bear.

Someone takes forums far too seriously.

umadbro?

As a representative from BTL pub I'd like to firmly point out that BTL operators, moderators or FC's generally in charge have not issued any war declarations on behalf of BTL Pub.
Our simple goal is to provide incursions for everyone, everywhere at anytime. When you say "people from BTL" that means pilots who use our service (channel) that are non-affiliated with BTL pub.
Your reasoning for a "war declaration" is therefore put on a wrong basis.

Now let me rephrase your declaration of war into something we can all generally agree on.

"Rich highsec pubbies hired mercs to wardec us and now we want payback."

If there's anything else you might wonder about or any questions, feel free to drop me a mail.


PS:
Saying highsec incursions is one of the best ISK features is a bit flawed. You do realise that highsec incursions only pay out 60 % of the reward that is paid out in nullsec and lowsec?
Oh, and that the lowsec mothership site has a chance of dropping a revenant BPC that can be sold for 40 + b isk?

I'd also like you to be aware of the ISK generated in incursions fuels a lot of wonderful PvP fights, because more people can afford to fly their t3's or t2 ships into lowsec without having to worry too much.

And a last thing, about 30-40 billion isk is being generated in highsec incursions at best peak times during the week an hour.

As our diplomat, I have to say that whether or not our reasoning is flawed is irrelevant because we're more able to exercise power than BTL and thus we are right.

Now, I don't like highsec Incursions. It's not that we think less of incursionbears than we do of, say, mission-bears. It's that incursions in high sec pay too damn much. It's basically some of the best money in the game outside of owning a tech moon and therefore all kinds of people are just sitting in highsec doing those, rather than doing something more creative or going out to null or whatever. In our opinion, it's a stagnating influence.

To clear the air I never once said I was part of btl. Infact I've told skunkworks many times who I represent. Hec the wardec is even publically stated in our motd. Just because skunkworks has the intellect of lemiwinks from south park isn't my problem.

I really like the fact that you guys think you're so awesome because you can flip a 6 month old new to eve players whom are defenseless while you melt their logi. To make your case worse I hear everytime you guys get decced you just Corp jump so your poor little ships don't die.

Enjoy it while it lasts the decs won't stop until you guys grow some balls and fight for a week. That's what the community asked for and paid for. It stops when you stop.

Stop all the talking, get to action and start linking killboards and stuff.
Everyone is just measuring e-peen in this thread right now.

#3 the only reason you are picking on btl is because you can't manage to get enough alts to influtrate the tdf channel.
#4 you are only killing people outside of our channel

#5 we don't need to war dec with 50 corps when one will do and even if we did you still dropped Corp as yu have before

#6 you dont fight to begin with period unless you are the aggressor.

...Big mistake making this post public . Now everyone knows you guys can't defend yourselves. The only time your pvp griefer Corp gets on kms is when they have no chance.

#7 we've had people claiming to be tough before and 4 months of decs normally stops it so fight or hide

Here are our terms: replace every single kill you have ever been been a part of and 10 monocles.