can anyone tell me if you can actually fit an MSE on the raptor with blasters and MWD?

and can an ares fit a 200 plate along with a full rack of weapons and MWD?

As ridiculous as a ship that can fit a covert ops cloak, nullified, adequate dps, adequate tank, prob launcher?

I know no one cares, but I am AGAINST Bubble Immunity.

-Interdiction nullified.

-Insane drope in the time to reach the target and to be able to lock when in grid with the target.

And i still see people asking for more lock range.

Ceptors will be so incredible after rubicon...

What if you warp to a gate with your target and the gate is bubbled? That happens pretty often in null. If that happens you'll end up on the gate while the target lands in a bubble up to 100km off the gate. Hooray for bubble immunity.

What I think would make more sense like alot of people have mentioned is to give light interdictors bubble immunity at least agains their own bubbles. To balance this it would gain an agression timer from bubbling again. Right now we have cloaky dictors that just bubble the gate and jump, which is pretty stupid since it's obviously an act of agression. It would make alot more sense if they had a built in mechanic so that they don't get trapped in their own trap. This makes more sense and improves the role of light interdictors.

Please don't nerf the Taranis!

The ship is nearly never flown in FW lowsec. And for obvious reasons: the list of frigs you can engage solo in a Ranis is really small. Two thirds of the t1 frigs can already defeat it handily. It also needs to run from AFs and two of the four faction frigs.

That said, it does still have a niche role as an anti-kite. And that's due precisely to its potential ehp. If you take away some of that ehp, the ship will be truly useless except in fleet. And there it's outclassed by the fleet inties.

I get that you want to keep the Ranis weak compared to the new Raptor. But I'm not sure I get why. It's already a ship whose glory days are long gone.

Please don't nerf what is already too weak. Alternately, give it a third drone to at least match the comet.

Interceptor may not be supposed to be solo pwnmobile but first tackle for fleet. They would be too strong otherwise and there wouldn't be any point flying anything else if they were better than T1 frigates considering their price.

But isn't , for example, the Ares supposed to be specialize for that (although Rubicon seems to be changing that)? Not that I consider interceptors to be cheap... but given that they are tech II ships, I would expect a better performance given the cost and training effort.

But isn't , for example, the Ares supposed to be specialize for that (although Rubicon seems to be changing that)? Not that I consider interceptors to be cheap... but given that they are tech II ships, I would expect a better performance given the cost and training effort.

When is this being updated? I don't see any point in flying an ares, raptor or crusader ever over another interceptor, lol hull tanked gallente inties look pretty cool on paper, but aren't really logisticsable, and I'm not convinced that crows aren't going to destroy lowsec.

Also, when is the dictors thread, and will be it awful like this one?

Interceptor may not be supposed to be solo pwnmobile but first tackle for fleet. They would be too strong otherwise and there wouldn't be any point flying anything else if they were better than T1 frigates considering their price.

What if you warp to a gate with your target and the gate is bubbled? That happens pretty often in null. If that happens you'll end up on the gate while the target lands in a bubble up to 100km off the gate. Hooray for bubble immunity.

I guess you don't do many fleets..

Except the Taranis isn't a fleet interceptor. It doesn't tackle any better than a lot of the T1 frigs and as already stated it's even not that good at fighting T1 frigs after their remake. So what exactly is it's T2 specialisation?

I think it needs to be either faster so it can perform better than its t1 coutnerparts as an anti-kite or anti-fleet ceptor support OR unnerf the EHP and possibly even give it slightly more hull to maintain its prior viability as a fast brawler. For anyone who actually flies the Taranis, they know its past reputation no longer holds true as it is.

Oh so the MWD sig bonus is nothing ?
And after these changes, bubble immunity + insane warp speed will be nothing ?

Have you ever flown an interceptor as an interceptor or did you only ever flown them as all rounded fast fighters ? There is a difference.

The MWD sig bonus most notably is what allow a ceptor to survive on a battlefield where any other frigate would die.

You constantly talk about fleet interceptors and their role in large scale combat, there are other ways to play the game and the changes small gang interceptor pilots are asking for won't affect your gameplay. When it comes to the role of combat interceptors you seem rather deluded, when was the last time you saw a taranis or crusader as a fleet tackler?

Fleet and battlefield don't necessarily refer to large scale combat, and I flought a Taranis not so long ago and found it very good in a cruiser fleet : you can tackle targets for the fleet and good chunks of damage.

Combat ceptors are also rather good to catch and kill support and kiting ships. They are in fact better than attack frigate for a lot of things.

Though, of course, combat frigate will be very tough adversaries unless you use attack frigates tactics.

The days of useless T1 frigates are over. All ships need a place, and interceptors don't belong to heavy fighters.

They are in fact better than attack frigate for a lot of things.

Noone has asked them to become heavy fighters, all that has been asked for is that the taranis shouldn't have it's tank nerfed, rather slightly buffed minding it's the slowest interceptor.

As a matter of fact alot of people including me have been arguing against the resist bonus on the raptor since neither it's stats or playstyle supports it.

What?

Interceptor time!

You'll also notice we kinda devestated the cargo capacity of all the Interceptors. The intention is that if you want to use their bubble immunity for a cyno ship, you have to put some work into it and gimp your fit a tad.

The actual ship details will be split into the next post for length.

Ranis doesn't really need a tank buff, it needs slighlty more fittings and about 25% of its structure moved to armor.