I really feel that those of you against nullified intys are not being vocal enough. This will change the game we love, this will give more power to the major blocs (the ability to project fleets and super caps across the map in mere minutes).

This in general is not a good change for null sec.

If you are against nullified intys, SPEAK UP! Get your friends and corp mates to speak up. Fozzie will be reading this thread regularly so if we voice our concerns about this maybe CCP will at least re-think the idea!

The hell are you talking about I live in null and I can't wait.

Says a member of the CFC.. biggest bloc in the game... Of course you want it.

So for that matter FA isn't that big.

http://evemaps.dotlan.net/alliance/memberCount

Yeah, only the fifth biggest non-renter alliance in the game.

an 80% cap bonus is a big deal, better than a nos

Bubble immunity + warp speed changes are the biggest buff inties could ever have gotten. If you don't agree you're either bad or you havn't tried warping around in one on the test server, its ******* unreal.

I jumped on briefly to look at the warp changes and used the interceptor class to see just how quickly I could go. The first thing I noticed was that all the interceptors have been moved to a 10 AU warp speed. I guess I missed the notes on that somewhere. Combat used to be 9 AU and Fleet was 14 AU. Secondly -

Holy Shitballs.

Crow:

High:
Malkuth Light Missile Launcher x 3
Mid:
Limited MWD
Regolith MSE
SB II
Warp Disruptor II
Low:
OD II
DC II
MAPC II
Rigs:
Hyperspatial Velocity Maximizer x 2 for giggles.

The rigs give the crow a ~14.4 AU Warp speed. 70 AU warp in roughly 10 seconds. The sudden stop coming out of warp is pretty awesome. In a fight I was MWD'ing in one direction having escaped one of the many faction ships on the test server. (seriously, why? I don't fight Vangels on TQ that often) I hit the 'warp to station' button with 9 seconds left on the aggression timer. I entered warp at 6 seconds left (3.5 AU warp). I arrived in time to be declined docking rights due to my aggression. Those rigs are going to be a thing.

I for one welcome our new MR CROW overlord. I was bored of Stilettos anyway.

I wonder what Bubanni will do.

What should have been done back when the assault frigates were changed was to combine Interceptors and assault frigates into the same class.

Removing assault frigates and just have Interceptors. One would be focused on fleets and the other in combat (assault frigates).

For example (new interceptor class):

- Caldari, Crow (Fleet)
- Caldari, Hawk (Combat)

- Amarr, Malediction (Fleet)
- Amarr, Vengeance (Combat)

- Minmatar, Stiletto (Fleet)
- Minmatar, Jaguar (Combat)

- Gallente, Ares (Fleet)
- Gallente, Ishkur (Combat)

Sh!t like this. There's already overlap anyways, so you might as well.

Wat? Remove entire ships and roles just so you can brawl in a ship called an interceptor? Look, the combat inties have a role. It just isn't straight brawling like an AF. Theyre meamt to catch and murder other superlight ships (like bombers), kite and harass heavier frigates, and catch bigger ships. AFs are hoplites and inties are skirmishers - both have extremely effective tactical roles to play. Maybe if people stopped trying to do dumb things like stick blasters on a raptor they'd see just how much potential these ships have outside cyno deployment.

As for arguing these help power blocs more - come on people, don't be dense. Power blocs already have dozens of cyno alts wherever they need to go - thousands of members does that for you. The mobility helps roaming gangs more, giving them the option of bypassing hot systems and dropping deep behind enemy lines. The smaller yet organized alliances will benefit the most by far.

You're kind of dumb. In that specific post I was suggesting "combat interceptors" are not fulfilling their role; tech 1 frigates could perform as well as or better than "fleet Interceptors" and that Assault frigates currently do what "combat interceptors" WERE GOOD REALLY AT. Both Interceptors and Assault frigate have signature radius bonuses so there is overlap.

Which is why I suggested Assault frigates as a class be removed and merge with Interceptors. Keeping the "assault" role and the "fleet" role. Then I'd NERF the HELL OUT OF the Atron, Slasher, Executioner and Condor.

Orly? Except AFs are painfully slow, while interceptors maintain extremely high base speed and agility. Those are very, very different roles.

Are you one of those morons who just sticks short range guns with short range ammo onto every ship he flies, slaps a web and scram on, and calls it a day? Because it takes about 1 second of consideration to see what those ships were designed for.

Ha ha ha! I am one of those morons. Gf gf gf. Hmm. Consideration huh? Intercept means intercept so Interceptors? It's starting to make sense. Wonder what else can intercept. Fu*k it! I'm Going to go watch "Sons of Anarchy".

Just a thought, how about making nulification an active highslot module that only ceptors can fit. Reason being that sometimes you want to get caught in a bubble. Make the cycletime 10-20secs and also its state as you enter warp dictates if you are caught or pass through (any mid warp changes dont matter)

In a recent post I suggested these changes would turn Interceptors into 0.0 shuttles. I was not arguing against Immunity to warp disruption bubbles (not significant in combat/engagement). I WAS suggesting the Slasher, Condor, Executioner and Atron were comparable In COMBAT and TACKLING. The primary role of Interceptors.

So comments like "Interceptors will be untouchable. Yeah! Provided they don't participate in combat and attempt to tackling ANYTHING.
Mind you. Interceptors can still be caught by insta locking setups.

I'd also like to remind those who seem to forget that ALL frigates will be capable of accelerating into and decelerating out of warp significantly. So unlike those who were singularly focused on turning Interceptors in to shuttles. I focused on how they performed in a engagement compared to tech 1 frigates and if they SOMEHOW wouldn't be caught by another micro warp driving Frigate

No one I interact with that has sense believes these changes will increase their effectiveness in combat; with exceptions (Crow and Malediction). But avoiding engagements all together? Sure they'll be able to avoid allot! Again, I'm not focusing on what happens in warp but in an ACTUAL ENGAGEMENT NOT GETTING TO SAID ENGAGEMENT OR AVOIDING IT WHICH ANY TECH 1 FRIGATE CAN ALSO DO.

Note: I wonder why most players are not focused on the fact that groups of assault frigates may also benefit from the warp acceleration and deceleration changes v0v

Anyway.

Lets compare a Crow with a Condor after these changes. Both ships WILL STILL have similar effective hit-points with one damage control; have similar velocity and accelerating into and decelerating out of warp but Crow has greater base warp speed; damage output and application; Condor has more CPU and similar power grid; similar targeting range and the Condor has more scan resolution. Obviously pilots interaction with Condor's have been orbited and tracking disruptors or damped to death with missile. Sometimes both at the same time.

What should have been done back when the assault frigates were changed was to combine Interceptors and assault frigates into the same class.

Removing assault frigates and just have Interceptors. One would be focused on fleets and the other in combat (assault frigates).

For example (new interceptor class):

- Caldari, Crow (Fleet)
- Caldari, Hawk (Combat)

- Amarr, Malediction (Fleet)
- Amarr, Vengeance (Combat)

- Minmatar, Stiletto (Fleet)
- Minmatar, Jaguar (Combat)

- Gallente, Ares (Fleet)
- Gallente, Ishkur (Combat)

Sh!t like this. There's already overlap anyways, so you might as well.