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Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2835
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:52:00 -
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People crying over internet spaceships... much like loot drama in WoW.
You people don't need more internet spaceships so do yourself (and us) a huge favor. Get off the internet and go out for some much needed fresh air. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Ra Jackson
the unified Negative Ten.
206
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:53:00 -
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Anomaly One wrote:So from what i've seen is that the person that leaked would have had to be someone from SOMER to get this email in the first place and disregarding that because of this action he will lose out on all that "future" sponsorship = moar isk he decided to leak this email? and the person he chose to send it to was The Mittani and all this because he had a stroke of conscience, sounds like a bad movie
From what I've seen the source is anonymous, so nothing to lose here. |
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire
9642
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:56:00 -
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So even Somer himself realize this is a bit shady and wouldn't be taken well when it hits the world, why else would he ask people to be quiet about it and not everyone sell at once. Nicely done there...
What separates this from a dev giving his own alliance blueprints...? I'd be very interested in hearing from CCP what made the decision to do this.
/c
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16762
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:57:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:People crying over internet spaceships... No. People crying over what seems to be a repeat of T20 in terms of devs providing favours to certain groups under the table. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
0
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:58:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Anomaly One wrote:So from what i've seen is that the person that leaked would have had to be someone from SOMER to get this email in the first place and disregarding that because of this action he will lose out on all that "future" sponsorship = moar isk he decided to leak this email? and the person he chose to send it to was The Mittani and all this because he had a stroke of conscience, sounds like a bad movie From what I've seen the source is anonymous, so nothing to lose here.
errm if CCP didn't want this to be exposed and he exposed it anonymous or not CCP will not be making deals with SOMER again . So yes he did lose. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2835
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Posted - 2013.10.05 15:59:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alpheias wrote:People crying over internet spaceships... No. People crying over what seems to be a repeat of T20 in terms of devs providing favours to certain groups under the table.
You nailed it. Over what seems.
People return to the t20 incident like a sexually abused victim returning to the scene but no matter how much they wash and scrub, it always comes back to haunt them.
Get over it. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

Dex Slim
Phrike Squadron
8
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:01:00 -
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Chribba wrote:So even Somer himself realize this is a bit shady and wouldn't be taken well when it hits the world, why else would he ask people to be quiet about it and not everyone sell at once. Nicely done there...
What separates this from a dev giving his own alliance blueprints...? I'd be very interested in hearing from CCP what made the decision to do this.
/c
Realized or had been told to. Who knows? |

sally Deninard
mss industry
46
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:01:00 -
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Chribba wrote:So even Somer himself realize this is a bit shady and wouldn't be taken well when it hits the world, why else would he ask people to be quiet about it and not everyone sell at once. Nicely done there...
What separates this from a dev giving his own alliance blueprints...? I'd be very interested in hearing from CCP what made the decision to do this.
/c
If Chribba says it`s bad, then it must be bad . |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16762
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:03:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:People return to the t20 incident like a sexually abused victim returning to the scene but no matter how much they wash and scrub, it always comes back to haunt them. Again, no. It's CCP that keep returning to it, as if they were a TV series villain of the week. And yes, no matter how much they wash and scrub, that stain on their history won't go awayGǪ
No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
280
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:04:00 -
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Alpheias wrote:Get over it. It's nice that you don't care about the game. Other people do. Bad analogy time: Imagine a game of soccer. If the ref decides one team can field 15 players and three goalies, and the other team couldn't, people would rightfully get angry at the ref. It's the same thing here. I'm not even mad at SOMER, because to be honest if CCP asked me if I wanted some expensive stuff I probably wouldn't say no either. I'm mad at CCP for not playing their part of the impartial referee. |

Entity
X-Factor Industries Synthetic Existence
577
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:06:00 -
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Helicity Boson wrote:Dinsdale Pirannha wrote:I don't get it. Once you posted this statement, why are people ignoring it? If you are sure it is a scammer, then the failed laywer's site has just lost a ton of credibility (not that it had much with discerning readers in the 1st place). That could be even more interesting than this original scandal, if Entity is correct. Read the previous page of this thread. Entity is merely bad at reading names ;)
Yeah I just woke up when I posted that >_> GòªGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGûæGòæGûæGûæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòæGûæGòæGûæGòöGòùGûæGòªGòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòªGòùGòöGòù GòæGûæGòöGòùGòöGòùGòöGòúGûæGòöGòùGòáGûæGûæGòáGûæGòáGòùGòáGò¥GûæGòæGòáGûæGòáGò¥GòæGòæGòæGòÜGòù Gò¬GòÉGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòÜGò¥GûæGòÜGò¥GòæGûæGûæGòÜGò¥GòæGòæGòÜGò¥GûæGò¬GòÜGò¥GòÜGò¥GòæGûæGòæGòÜGò¥ Got Item? |

Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
282
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:08:00 -
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Wow. As soon as I read the Mittani report, I literally closed my game because I felt sick. What a crock of ****, CCP. Seriously. What the hell is wrong with you. |

Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1252
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:10:00 -
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If this maneuver is meant to create hate war and scams: success
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 *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |

Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
159
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:15:00 -
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Ra Jackson wrote:Nevyn Auscent wrote:Ra Jackson wrote: Quoting for reference next week. "Who could be any player behind that character now." Brilliant.
Reference away. But this is EVE. People create the most elaborate scams possible here. Yet we are expected to swallow this as automatically true. With no verification. CCP already gave Somer billions and trillions thru the Eve Vegas Lottery. There is no use to not believe this new incident. Plus, why do you fail to understand that scamming and lying ingame is completely different to a lying and favouring game company?
Even if CCP has never give BLINK isk, they've given them an endorsement, which itself creates a perception of impropriety.
Good, respectable, honest businesses do not engage in the transfer of items and/or endorsements of value when these things would create a perception of impropriety or favoritism. Shame on both CCP and SomerBLINK for this. Why do people continue to give Somer their isk when CCP has seen fit to supply them with isk.
Your isk is worth more. Do not give it to a player organization that benefits from CCP gifts and favoritism. They are not some not for profit, charity corp, they are a profit making entity, CCP should not have been involved with endorsing them and they never should have accepted endorsements or gifts if they care about your business.
My two cents: boycott SomerBLINK. That will send a clear message to CCP and BLINK about how players feel about these sorts of arrangements without you having to quit the game to send the same message.
In my opinion this is worse than monocles and gold ammo ever was, I hope that players send a clear message to CCP about this, because based on their reply to the CSM - they don't get it, not one bit. |

Kaivar Lancer
General Exports
284
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:16:00 -
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Jita riot, anyone? :D |

Large Collidable Object
morons.
2307
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:17:00 -
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Stupid, stupid, stupid...
CCP continues to amaze me.
Firing T20 and creating the CSM doesn't really help if you keep doing the same thing T20 did on a larger scale and as an official company policy whilst simply bypassing the CSM.
This is wrong and corrupt on so many levels...
At least BoB provided content - tons of it. Now all they got was a shoddy BPO.
Whilst having run into BoB and the content they created, I swear I haven't ever come accross any content created by Somer blink in thousands of hours playing this game for almost nine years on multiple accounts.
Somer blink is a purely self-serving organization feeding on the wide spread of gambling addicts in MMO populations.
So they sponsored events? So what? It helps increasing the population they feed upon. If that is a community service, any empoyee of a company running commercials should receive a free Ferrari from the country hosting the corporate headquarters.
You know... morons. |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5147
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:18:00 -
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let's take bets on how long it is until an isd closes the thread with some transparent excuse
i know a betting site ccp has guaranteed to be not a scam perhaps they'd be willing to run it |

Weaselior
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5147
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:20:00 -
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or until navigator pops in here to tell us we could win an Ishukone Scorpion ourselves just by playing some blinks at our friendly neighborhood somer blink |

CroisisCZ
The Scope Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:22:00 -
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Weaselior wrote:let's take bets on how long it is until an isd closes the thread with some transparent excuse
EVE Online Terms of Service
1) You may not abuse, harass or threaten another player or authorized representative of CCP, including customer service personnel and volunteers. This includes, but is not limited to: filing support tickets with false information in an attempt to gain from it or have someone else suffer from it; sending excessive e-mails, EVE-mails or support tickets; obstructing CCP Employees from doing their jobs; refusal to follow the instructions of a CCP Employee; or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee.
Case closed, now for the bans... |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
30
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:23:00 -
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Chribba wrote:So even Somer himself realize this is a bit shady and wouldn't be taken well when it hits the world, why else would he ask people to be quiet about it and not everyone sell at once. Nicely done there...
What separates this from a dev giving his own alliance blueprints...? I'd be very interested in hearing from CCP what made the decision to do this.
*sarcasm*But hey maybe this was discussed with CSM and they said it was a good idea...*/sarcasm*
/c yeah, the insider trading **** is pretty lame on behalf of Somer's part, but the blame for this lies squarely on the devs
CCP spawns a bunch of 'limited' ships, gives them to one corp, and then the corp members sell them quietly before anyone else realizes that ~90 ships magically turned into ~120, reducing the value of the item
yeah, nothing shady about that, right guys? guess they couldn't predict this outcome  |

virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:26:00 -
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What else has been given we don't know about? |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
31
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:27:00 -
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virm pasuul wrote:What else has been given we don't know about? there was something mentioned about monocles earlier |

Sirane Elrek
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
280
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:29:00 -
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CroisisCZ wrote:or implying favoritism by a CCP Employee. Case closed, now for the bans... there's nothing implied about it |

Sturmwolke
458
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:30:00 -
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Tippia wrote: At this point, I'm wondering what they'll seed the people who have been working on dotlan, battleclinic, EFT, EVEMon, Pyfa, EVEUni, Goons. I suppose Chribba should be given 7 unique ships GÇö one for each insanely useful site he has contributed to the community.
This pretty much. There is simply a multitude of other entities (not limited to the above list), providing indispensable tools, content information and misc. contributions for the players. They kept the EVE universe alive, some had been around for several years .... and they still continue to do so.
What of them CCP? Background scenery?
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Eram Fidard
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
350
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:30:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:I am flattered that at the age of 58, I can still be considered 'immature'
Thank you.
Immature or not as the case may be, CCP giving any player corp an in-game advantage is wrong.
I think that's called 'projection'
Anomaly One wrote:So from what i've seen is that the person that leaked would have had to be someone from SOMER to get this email in the first place and disregarding that because of this action he will lose out on all that "future" sponsorship = moar isk he decided to leak this email? and the person he chose to send it to was The Mittani and all this because he had a stroke of conscience, sounds like a bad movie
most likely either a goon spy or this is just a scam, also it is really easy to fake an email, either way entertaining thread ahead!
**LOGICAL FALLACY INCOMING!!!**A news organisation's leader and founder belongs to a political interest group. Therefore zero information reported by said organisation can be true.**/logical fallacy**
Alpheias wrote:You nailed it. Over what seems.
People return to the t20 incident like a *redacted* but no matter how much they *redacted*, it always comes back to haunt them.
Get over it.
This is disgusting hate-speech and is without reproach. How do you even conduct yourself in civilized society?
Nevyn Auscent wrote:Some real data. Not simply a name on a screenshot. Who could be any player behind that character now. An opportunity for CCP to speak on it to present their view point.
Or are we now judge, jury & executioner now simply because The Mittani says CCP are evil today? I'm sorry, I don't work like that. I actually work on facts, and allow people to defend themselves first. Then I'll crucify them if it's justified AFTER they get the chance.
Not simply because one of the most biased EVE news sites with it's own major agenda decides to attack CCP's business.
*another logical fallacy incoming!!!* This article alleges CCP may have conspired to give away and cover up. Therefore it attacks CCP's business and calls CCP evil. */logical fallacy*
Prince Kobold wrote:Lol... of course not
So the numerous posts from goonies saying how Evil somer is, how they are a cover for RMT and how anybody who supports them is a shrill on numerous threads is not going after somer...
Of course :)
*hey look guys a thread where every person standing up for blink is only capable of logical fallacies!*
*yet another logical fallacy incoming* People belonging to a group of individuals all have the same opinion, and it's different from mine! Well since only my opinion can be the right one, they must all be working together under some conspiracy! Every person with an opinion different from mine is therefore a goonie, and their opinion invalid as such. */logical fallacy*
On a more serious note, what, precisely, is a 'goonie', and when did they start playing eve?
Also, CCP please consider a 'multiquote' feature, as this post required a supreme amount of effort copy-pasting.
Poster is not to be held responsible for damages to keyboards and/or noses caused by hot beverages. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2835
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:32:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Alpheias wrote:People return to the t20 incident like a sexually abused victim returning to the scene but no matter how much they wash and scrub, it always comes back to haunt them. Again, no. It's CCP that keep returning to it, as if they were a TV series villain of the week. And yes, no matter how much they wash and scrub, that stain on their history won't go awayGǪ
I am actually counting on CCP for precisely that reason. Because I want whiny posters, like the goons, to gather around whatever controversy that CCP manages to cook up, like flies angrily buzzing around it like it was a pile of dung.
Sirane Elrek wrote:Alpheias wrote:Get over it. It's nice that you don't care about the game. Other people do. Bad analogy time: Imagine a game of soccer. If the ref decides one team can field 15 players and three goalies, and the other team couldn't, people would rightfully get angry at the ref. It's the same thing here. I'm not even mad at SOMER, because to be honest if CCP asked me if I wanted some expensive stuff I probably wouldn't say no either. I'm mad at CCP for not playing their part of the impartial referee.
I don't think caring about the "state of the of game" got anything to do with CCP tossing a bunch of re-skinned scorpions to Somer. Not sure if I should laugh or offer you a hug, if you think that it does.
What if CCP did play their part as the impartial referee? After all, this leak points to something that took place in August and they could have voted on it internally. All you can really ask for is that CSM brings this up with CCP on the matter of transparency. Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |

SpoonRECKLESS
Caldari Provisions
57
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:33:00 -
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hmmmmmmmmmmmmm. Facanatingablelating. I don't get it. Blue
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virm pasuul
Mine 'N' Refine The Unforgiven Alliance
44
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:33:00 -
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Maybe in Eve even CCP is allowed to scam? |

Danaro Hekki
Science and Trade Institute Caldari State
1
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:36:00 -
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I think ccp should just post all the rewards and why they were given. |

Alpheias
Euphoria Released Verge of Collapse
2835
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Posted - 2013.10.05 16:37:00 -
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Eram Fidard wrote:Alpheias wrote:You nailed it. Over what seems.
People return to the t20 incident like a *redacted* but no matter how much they *redacted*, it always comes back to haunt them.
Get over it. This is disgusting hate-speech and is without reproach. How do you even conduct yourself in civilized society?
That is easy. Most people I interact with in real life doesn't care about a line of code that makes a space laser in a computer game.
Does that answer your question? Allow me to be frank. You will not like me. You will not like me now, and you will not like men++ a good deal less as we go on. |
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