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Jade Constantine
Jericho Fraction The Star Fraction
2801
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:14:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:I keep trying to reload this thread and an error occurs. Looks like the fallout has already started! Also, barring a complete boycott of both SOMER Blink and EVE Online, these threads will have virtually no impact on the relationship between SOMER Blink and CCP. Most of them are laughing all the way to the InterStellar banK (see what I did thurrrr?) The fact that there is so much outcry over this without a hint of official response from either party is proof that CCP doesn't give a **** about the situation as long as people keep forking over their real-life money every month.
Yes, I realize I keep posting even though I know it's pointless. I only do so because I seem to have picked up a Goon follower somewhere along the way... 60 pages in, still nothing. The miniboss doesn't appear until its 100 pages at least. (just in case anyone thinks I'm a bit flippant I haven't really played eve since the big alliance favoring wardec fees fiasco but threw them another years sub for old times sake just in case certain devs left - this current business with the PR department giving player entities ridiculous sums of money is grotesque enough to convince me to find my password and post, because its so intrinsically antithetical to the notion of a genuine player led sandbox without overt CCP interference.) what is eve too real for you
Not sure I understand the question? (tbh though the eve is real tagline always left me a bit cold, I'm too British for rah rah emo advertising)
The True Knowledge is that nothing matters that does not matter to you, might does make right and power makes freedom-á |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4760
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:28:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Alavaria Fera wrote:Jade Constantine wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:I keep trying to reload this thread and an error occurs. Looks like the fallout has already started! Also, barring a complete boycott of both SOMER Blink and EVE Online, these threads will have virtually no impact on the relationship between SOMER Blink and CCP. Most of them are laughing all the way to the InterStellar banK (see what I did thurrrr?) The fact that there is so much outcry over this without a hint of official response from either party is proof that CCP doesn't give a **** about the situation as long as people keep forking over their real-life money every month.
Yes, I realize I keep posting even though I know it's pointless. I only do so because I seem to have picked up a Goon follower somewhere along the way... 60 pages in, still nothing. The miniboss doesn't appear until its 100 pages at least. (just in case anyone thinks I'm a bit flippant I haven't really played eve since the big alliance favoring wardec fees fiasco but threw them another years sub for old times sake just in case certain devs left - this current business with the PR department giving player entities ridiculous sums of money is grotesque enough to convince me to find my password and post, because its so intrinsically antithetical to the notion of a genuine player led sandbox without overt CCP interference.) what is eve too real for you Not sure I understand the question? (tbh though the eve is real tagline always left me a bit cold, I'm too British for rah rah emo advertising) real life money via getting ccp gtc sales
eve online rewards
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16877
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:29:00 -
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Darek Castigatus wrote:I would have been equally indifferent, neither of them is any more or less worthy in my eyes than Somer Blink is/was GǪand given the general attitude towards goons and anti-mining activities, do you think that this is an opinion that many would share? Look back at all the noise generated whenever the goons take over a valuable part of space GÇö replete with claims about them being given stuff. Now imagine if they actually had been handed stuff on the sly through actual dev fiat.
Quote:Way to strawman Tippia, I expected better from you. But since you asked I imagine they would have not been very happy at being given something that has zero value even to a collector. No. That's not a strawman. That's the actual argument they're using: that it's ok because it has no intrinsic value and no mineral contents. The argument is that they're not actually being given anything of value at all GÇö that the 15GÇô20bn they go for on the market is irrelevant because, hey, the ships is actually worthless.
They are wilfully ignoring the collector value, claiming that it's ok to give away half a trillion ISK worth of goods because that's not a GǣrealGǥ value, but one set by the players. Never mind that this holds true for all items in the gameGǪ
Now, I understand your reaction to that question because it definitely sounds utterly idiotic the way strawmen often do, but the problem is that I'm not actually inventing anything. The Gǣit has no particular valueGǥ line of reasoning was in the official response! I'm pointing out that this is thoroughly disingenuous and that this is the only thing that supposedly makes it ok compared to, say, handing out a couple of BPOsGǪ
Quote:I wouldnt care that much since I despise the taste of cheetos thus would never buy them. The second part of the question is utterly irrelevant, we can post and comment as much as we want about what is or isnt a community site but in the end its down to the people who run the game, which is CCP. The second part is highly irrelevant since that is the excuse being used in this case: that they deserve favouritism because they're an GÇ£awesome community siteGÇ¥. Never mind that many despise the taste of it and that it has nothing to do with the community. It's a commercial site for a business, designed to generate income. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Shai 'Hulud
Spanked and Straddled
31
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:31:00 -
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Jade Constantine wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:Kosakei Sanko wrote:I keep trying to reload this thread and an error occurs. Looks like the fallout has already started! Also, barring a complete boycott of both SOMER Blink and EVE Online, these threads will have virtually no impact on the relationship between SOMER Blink and CCP. Most of them are laughing all the way to the InterStellar banK (see what I did thurrrr?) The fact that there is so much outcry over this without a hint of official response from either party is proof that CCP doesn't give a **** about the situation as long as people keep forking over their real-life money every month.
Yes, I realize I keep posting even though I know it's pointless. I only do so because I seem to have picked up a Goon follower somewhere along the way... 60 pages in, still nothing. The miniboss doesn't appear until its 100 pages at least. (just in case anyone thinks I'm a bit flippant I haven't really played eve since the big alliance favoring wardec fees fiasco but threw them another years sub for old times sake just in case certain devs left - this current business with the PR department giving player entities ridiculous sums of money is grotesque enough to convince me to find my password and post, because its so intrinsically antithetical to the notion of a genuine player led sandbox without overt CCP interference.) Pretty much nailed it, imo.
All the sand has blown away... now it's just a box. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
107
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:31:00 -
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It's all about Trust, or the lack of it.
CCP have been secretly handing out valuable ships to various players/organisations. Does anyone wonder who else may have been the lucky recipients of CCPs secret generosity? and to what extent?
Don't Panic.
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
183
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:34:00 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote:It's all about Trust, or the lack of it.
CCP have been secretly handing out valuable ships to various players/organisations. Does anyone wonder who else may have been the lucky recipients of CCPs secret generosity? and to what extent?
Because of NDA I am not an alt of Chribba. |
Shai 'Hulud
Spanked and Straddled
33
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:36:00 -
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Speedkermit Damo wrote:It's all about Trust, or the lack of it.
CCP have been secretly handing out valuable ships to various players/organisations. Does anyone wonder who else may have been the lucky recipients of CCPs secret generosity? and to what extent?
It has nothing to do with trust. If I trusted CCP more than I do, I still wouldn't want them handing out loads of isk to a group of players just because CCP likes their website. |
YesYes NoNoNo
Karmic Rebalance
0
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:38:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Speedkermit Damo wrote:It's all about Trust, or the lack of it.
CCP have been secretly handing out valuable ships to various players/organisations. Does anyone wonder who else may have been the lucky recipients of CCPs secret generosity? and to what extent?
Because of NDA
Swing and a miss! |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
183
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:41:00 -
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YesYes NoNoNo wrote:Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Speedkermit Damo wrote:It's all about Trust, or the lack of it.
CCP have been secretly handing out valuable ships to various players/organisations. Does anyone wonder who else may have been the lucky recipients of CCPs secret generosity? and to what extent?
Because of NDA Swing and a miss!
Stop trying to make "Because of NDA" a thing. It will never be a thing.
I am not an alt of Chribba. |
Speedkermit Damo
Demonic Retribution
110
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:48:00 -
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Might as well hand out free crap to all those other Jita scammers as well.
Don't Panic.
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Aurthes
M. Corp Engineering Fatal Ascension
41
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:48:00 -
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Curious as to why CCP has been avoiding this thread. This is Monday, and there have been some limited responses elsewhere, but not in their own forums, talking to their own players. |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
86
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:53:00 -
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Aurthes wrote:Curious as to why CCP has been avoiding this thread. This is Monday, and there have been some limited responses elsewhere, but not in their own forums, talking to their own players.
Simply ignore the problem until it solves itself... |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4015
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:54:00 -
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I'm wondering about something.
Do people believe their voice will be heard if they don't start unsubbing?
"It's what they do, not what they say." ... or something. |
Varius Xeral
Galactic Trade Syndicate
1337
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:56:00 -
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11 days to go Official Representative of The Nullsec Zealot Cabal |
Kate stark
370
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:57:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I'm wondering about something.
Do people believe their voice will be heard if they don't start unsubbing?
"It's what they do, not what they say." ... or something.
i shouldn't have to unsub for ccp to take note of the situation. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or i's account, if you're reading this. |
Anomaly One
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
36
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Posted - 2013.10.07 16:59:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I'm wondering about something.
Do people believe their voice will be heard if they don't start unsubbing?
"It's what they do, not what they say." ... or something.
most people don't care..
they just want CCP to acknowledge the mistake they did and promise never to do it again and hold on that promise.. but I think they dug a big hole for themselves this time in the "trust" department.. |
Catherine Au
Iris Industry and Innovations
3
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:02:00 -
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A 60 page thread without a single blue response? Doesn't exactly create a great impression for newcomers or any other interested party.
I would have thought enough people have voiced their opinions and concerns on the forums to merit one CCP employee spending 2 minutes of their time to address these concerns, especially why these "promotional" ships were given in secret over 2 months ago.. |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4763
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:02:00 -
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Solstice Project wrote:I'm wondering about something.
Do people believe their voice will be heard if they don't start unsubbing?
"It's what they do, not what they say." ... or something. As long as the increase in gtc sales from somer is enough, it doesn't matter, their wallet is better off There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
378
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:04:00 -
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Alavaria Fera wrote:As long as the increase in gtc sales from somer is enough, it doesn't matter, their wallet is better off
This.
'sall about the benjamins Not today spaghetti. |
Solstice Project
I'm So Meta Even This Acronym
4017
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:07:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Solstice Project wrote:I'm wondering about something.
Do people believe their voice will be heard if they don't start unsubbing?
"It's what they do, not what they say." ... or something. i shouldn't have to unsub for ccp to take note of the situation. This sounds way too decadent. If you look how reality works, then you'll notice that no corporate entity gives a **** as long as people just complain but still throw money at them.
"I shouldn't have to" implies that you believe a voice alone counts. If you look at it close though, you can find out that in absolutely most cases it simply doesn't.
That's why i'm asking.
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Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
380
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:09:00 -
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Catherine Au wrote:A 60 page thread without a single blue response? Doesn't exactly create a great impression for newcomers or any other interested party.
I would have thought enough people have voiced their opinions and concerns on the forums to merit one CCP employee spending 2 minutes of their time to address these concerns, especially why these "promotional" ships were given in secret over 2 months ago..
Quote:That said, we recognize it is imperative for CCP to remain impartial with respect to which 3rd parties receive CCP support for these kinds of activities. To that end, we will develop a clear policy on how we plan to conduct future events, including how we will determine which 3rd parties and which events will receive CCP support, and we will develop that policy in consultation with the CSM.
So not only do they not care that their handing out billions of free ISK, their going to continue to do it in a different manner than the fail way they conducted this one.
I don't know if I've ever met a player that doesn't know/have EFT. Why not give 500 billion ISK to Gripen for being such a boss with EFT?
Oh right because Gripen doesn't line your pockets with money like SOMER does. Not today spaghetti. |
Literally Space Moses
One Man Incursion Corp.
50
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:15:00 -
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Catherine Au wrote:A 60 page thread without a single blue response? Doesn't exactly create a great impression for newcomers or any other interested party.
I would have thought enough people have voiced their opinions and concerns on the forums to merit one CCP employee spending 2 minutes of their time to address these concerns, especially why these "promotional" ships were given in secret over 2 months ago..
Going from what they've said to third party sites, they don't consider it worthy of a response. #T2013 |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
86
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:17:00 -
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Sexy Cakes wrote:I don't know if I've ever met a player that doesn't know/have EFT. Why not give 500 billion ISK to Gripen for being such a boss with EFT?
Did he sell GTC?
Sexy Cakes wrote:Oh right because Gripen doesn't line your pockets with money like SOMER does.
Okay, asked and answered. |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1252
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:19:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:WTB jelly pot for 3500 Aurum.
Or eventually accept all jelly donation from Somer Blink.
Thx Ma i see you've decided to continue posting irrelevant nonsensical stuff rather than familiarise yourself with the topic being discussed.
It makes sense to me to react to all of this whining show and immature attitudes with this kind of joke, it's about the same level and the lowest level I could come with. There's a sticky thread about this, why don't you guys just do something interesting and go post there instead of spreading all this jelly nonsense all over the forum in multiple useless threads.
But I was not even kidding, I'm accepting jelly pots from somerma. I want to see you all red of jealousy till you blow up. *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Kate stark
376
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:21:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:Kate stark wrote:Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:WTB jelly pot for 3500 Aurum.
Or eventually accept all jelly donation from Somer Blink.
Thx Ma i see you've decided to continue posting irrelevant nonsensical stuff rather than familiarise yourself with the topic being discussed. It makes sense to me to react to all of this whining show and immature attitudes with this kind of joke, it's about the same level and the lowest level I could come with. There's a sticky thread about this, why don't you guys just do something interesting and go post there instead of spreading all this jelly nonsense all over the forum in multiple useless threads. But I was not even kidding, I'm accepting jelly pots from somerma. I want to see you all red of jealousy till you blow up.
no, there isn't a sticky about this at all. in fact, there hasn't even been a single ccp post about it.
again, you demonstrate you have no idea what's going on.
is reading really that hard? Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or i's account, if you're reading this. |
Sexy Cakes
Have A Seat
380
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:23:00 -
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Kate stark wrote: no, there isn't.
again, you demonstrate you have no idea what's going on.
is reading really that hard?
Fanboy-itis makes it hard to comprehend CCP actions in anything but the best light possible. Not today spaghetti. |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
86
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:25:00 -
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Kate stark wrote:is reading really that hard?
Looks like for some People it is... |
Sergeant Acht Scultz
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
1253
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:51:00 -
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Indeed
/popcorn *removed inappropriate ASCII art signature* - CCP Eterne |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16882
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:53:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote: GǪwhich has nothing to do with the topic at hand. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |
Kate stark
383
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Posted - 2013.10.07 17:53:00 -
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Sergeant Acht Scultz wrote:
yeah, that's not what we're talking about. Yay, this account hasn't had its signature banned. or i's account, if you're reading this. |
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