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Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9238
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:23:00 -
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look at this '12 trying to pull regdates
lool Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |
JEFFRAIDER
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
279
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:26:00 -
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I get 0 money from somer blink or eve-bet or CCP
Everyone who got an Ishukone Watch Scorpion @ fanfest got told they are the only ones FOR NOW but more would be given out
I'd be legit mad if they gave out Guardian Vexors or Gold Magnates or any other one-off ships.
they didn't tho, and the only controversy imho is why Somer Blink got them all instead of half going to EVE-BET who haven't been as ubiquitous in the past but are obviously around equal now. . .
WHATEVER
JEFFRAIDER4CSM2014 jk |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4685
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:28:00 -
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How amusing. There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
James Arget
Future Corps Sleeper Social Club
184
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:31:00 -
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/me facepalms
This is not what I was looking forward to dealing with tonight. CSM 8 Representative
http://csm8.org |
gr ant
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
12
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:31:00 -
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JEFFRAIDER wrote:I get 0 money from somer blink or eve-bet or CCP
Everyone who got an Ishukone Watch Scorpion @ fanfest got told they are the only ones FOR NOW but more would be given out
I'd be legit mad if they gave out Guardian Vexors or Gold Magnates or any other one-off ships.
they didn't tho, and the only controversy imho is why Somer Blink got them all instead of half going to EVE-BET who haven't been as ubiquitous in the past but are obviously around equal now. . .
WHATEVER
JEFFRAIDER4CSM2014 jk
Somer Blink Shill |
Brakoo
Shiva Nulli Secunda
4
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:35:00 -
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This is complete Bullshit, and honestly makes me want to riot/unsub
"awesome community fansites"
you mean a for profit gambling site that doesn't ever question CCP or hold them to any standards like the rest of the community?
A party in it for only there personal gain?
I am very very disconcerted by this
SOMER doesn't create content for EVE, They are not the enablers and instigators.
One day you will stop being a terrible Company CCP |
Troll Bridgington
Incompertus INC Fatal Ascension
41
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:37:00 -
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How much does a Somer Blink shill get paid, and how does one become a shill? I have lots of experience shilling with organizations such as The Illuminati Lizard People, and the United Nations Organization for a New World Order. Should I talk to my union rep? tia |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
653
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:38:00 -
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James Arget wrote:/me facepalms
This is not what I was looking forward to dealing with tonight.
Shaping up to be a great CSM year, huh? Plenty of controversy to keep ya'll busy. Good luck. Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4685
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:40:00 -
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Troll Bridgington wrote:How much does a Somer Blink shill get paid, and how does one become a shill? I have lots of experience shilling with organizations such as The Illuminati Lizard People, and the United Nations Organization for a New World Order. Should I talk to my union rep? tia Yeah, I don't get enough to bother shilling for the cfc. How can I sign up to get stuff spawned for me by ccp There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Leigh Akiga
State War Academy Caldari State
140
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:41:00 -
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JEFFRAIDER wrote:JEFFRAIDER4CSM2014 |
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The Zerg Overmind
Rule Reversal Dec Shield
677
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:42:00 -
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If only the CSM would grow a backbone and go to the public gaming presses and create a public scandal about this like Mittens used to do. The ONLY thing that CCP responds to is a public media incident in which they look bad. And they certainly have plenty of reasons to look bad. The worst part is that they don't even seem to realize why what they're doing is wrong.
As long as these terrible decisions by CCP are confined to these forums there will be NO CONSEQUENCES. This is a sandbox game, and CCP are collectively ruining it at an alarming pace. What part of non-interference do they not understand?
CSM, do your job and bring this issue to the media. It is the only way. Burn Highsec Griefers |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4687
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:45:00 -
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Thank you for the article, themittani.com There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4687
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:45:00 -
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The Zerg Overmind wrote:If only the CSM would grow a backbone and go to the public gaming presses and create a public scandal about this like Mittens used to do. The ONLY thing that CCP responds to is a public media incident in which they look bad. And they certainly have plenty of reasons to look bad. The worst part is that they don't even seem to realize why what they're doing is wrong.
As long as these terrible decisions by CCP are confined to these forums there will be NO CONSEQUENCES. This is a sandbox game, and CCP are collectively ruining it at an alarming pace. What part of non-interference do they not understand?
CSM, do your job and bring this issue to the media. It is the only way. haha no
They have to run cover/interference for ccp to find out who did this to them and ~deal with it~ There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |
LarcatOfZion
3-Strikes Nulli Secunda
3
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:47:00 -
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If anyone should be given free items from CCP it should be the FC's and alliance leaders who create content, Not some rubbish gamblng website, which makes more than enough isk as it is im sure. |
Tao Dolcino
Confederation Navy Research Epsilon Fleet
159
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:48:00 -
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I have not much hope that the CSM will concretly fight for us, they are too busy being hypnotized by CCP's blink-blink. And i have no trust at all in CCP, because, how do you call that... wait... there is a word for that... Ah yes ! Mafia. |
Marlona Sky
D00M. Northern Coalition.
4257
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:49:00 -
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Brakoo wrote:This is complete Bullshit, and honestly makes me want to riot/unsub
"awesome community fansites"
you mean a for profit gambling site that doesn't ever question CCP or hold them to any standards like the rest of the community?
A party in it for only there personal gain?
I am very very disconcerted by this
SOMER doesn't create content for EVE, They are not the enablers and instigators.
One day you will stop being a terrible Company CCP Oh calm the hell down. You really should do some fact checking before sperging out things like 'SOMER doesn't create content for EVE'. They are constantly donating to events such and RvB Ganked nights, all my events as well as countless others. Those sponsorship help those player events actually become a reality. Somer is not the only site that sponsors player events either. Many do.
Now I'm going to wait for more information on this Scorpion hull deal, but holy crap some of you need hit the brakes and really sit down, gather all the facts and then make an educated opinion on this. . |
Laserak
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
98
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:52:00 -
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But but but it doesnt matter because they're all quadrillionaires anyways right guys? |
Memnon Shepard
Crimson Reavers
7
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:52:00 -
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I spent quite a bit of time among friends and on the forums backing CCP on what I thought was the spirit of promoting community events. Spawning items for corps which would be distributed equitably among the player base and with the purpose of generating donations that would drive turnout for live (or even in-game) events seemed a positive goal in my eyes. I thought it could be justified, and I assumed their intentions to be genuine but their methods flawed. If this leak is legitimate, though... yeah, they can count me out of the support group. Blink workers get paid for their services, and directly handing them valuable CCP-spawned ships for doing those jobs does nothing to promote anything but imbalance. I cannot glean any reasonable justification for this handout, which is likely why CCP can't find the time to comment on the issue. The implied cover-up in the email shocked me.
Why am I always left feeling like an idiot supporting CCP publicly? I should probably have learned my lesson by now.
Back to spending 4 months training Battlecruiser and Dessy cross-race skills to V on my new character, at least the in-game changes they spend time think-tanking and instituting nowadays make sense and benefit players, and aren't just some grossly obvious cash-cow implementa...
wait... |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
468
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Posted - 2013.10.05 06:56:00 -
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Abditus Cularius wrote:Andski wrote:Johnny Marzetti wrote:What are you roleplaying then? He's a known Somer Blink shill. Aw. Andy is still mad that I taught him some eve history last week and underlined how new he is to the game. That's really cute.
Oh, I remember you now. Honestly, if I actually knew that much ~EvE history~ I wouldn't go around admitting it.
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Argus Sorn
Star Frontiers Dirt Nap Squad.
146
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:04:00 -
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Has there been an official CCP response on any of this?
There is literally no defense for this sort of favoritism. The fact is that the only way to truly be sure there are no conflicts of interest is to avoid absolutely everything and anything that even smells of one. Engaging in the slightest of questionable activities opens the door to tremendous abuse and EVEN IF NOT ABUSED, creates questions that seed distrustt between the company and its customer base. And that is exactly what we are seeing here.
And nothing can really be said to ever make that customer base feel comfortable with the situation. The fact is that the appearance creates the sentiment, no matter what the truth. This is why you simply NEVER engage in this sort of favoritism. And CCP Pokethulu makes the age old mistake of trying to defend by saying that CCP will be able to make sure it is not abused and remains balanced. These are the sorts of claims made by the foolish and corrupt. No one can be sure this is not abused - therefore it should not occur. Simple as that.
No player run organization should be gifted items of such significant value within the game. Give them plaques, letters, tours of CCP offices, or their name engraved on the walls of Hilmar's private bathroom - but to grant them items of in game value is to give them isk. And herein lies the problem. For CCP to be in the business of handing out isk to players is highly disturbing and threatens the integrity of the game itself. Even when those items are given to be given out via lottery - they will profit the entity in question, therefore providing them with isk! Why is CCP basically handing a ton of isk over to SomerBLINK?
I sat with Hilmar at Fan Fest and had dinner with him. I basically said something along the lines that I felt he got a bit of a rough shake when it came to the whole monocle debacle. I mean, why can't a CEO be glad his company is making money? Despite my support, he took ownership and apologized and made it clear he felt he had made a mistake, and had failed to understand what the players wanted.
Hilmar, if you have any sense of what the players care about you will realize what a tremendous mistake this favoritism toward SomerBLINK is. It reeks of impropriety and corruption and secret deals with Somer. And for your own people to sit there and say they think Somer is 100% trustworthy - first it makes them look like complete fools and shows a complete failure on their part to understand the problem. Does CCP know who every alt of every Somer employee is? Why you might think so, I highly doubt it given that I've seen more than one player receive a permaban on their main while their alts did not. Once again: the ONLY way to insure no impropriety is to not engage in any activity that could come close to it.
So now, on the heels of this we find that Somer 'employees' are being gifted hundreds of billions of isk in special release ships. Once again, this is giving players isk. And for what? Because they are such a great fansite? They have already been rewarded for this. If they've paid out more than a quadrillion in isk, then just think how much they've made in profit! That profit is their reward. CCP is going to hand them rare, in game prizes for being good at getting you to pay them isk? That's ludicrous. Clearly there is some level of bias here, or plain stupidity... one or the other.
And please realize, Somer is just as much to blame. It is the responsibility of a business to turn down gifts that could either result in or give an image of impropriety.
So for the players, the answer is simple: stop patronizing SomerBlink. Boycott SomerBlink and if they truly value your business they will return any and all gifts and prize ships. Otherwise, kiss them goodby and stop handing over your hard earned isk so that they can bask in the glory of CCP's adoration. They are being gifted ships from CCP for one reason: YOU GAVE THEM ISK. So, stop giving them your isk. They clearly don't deserve it. |
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Disco Soliloquy
Major Kong Freight
7
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:08:00 -
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Comment here if you'd like to hear from your CSM representatives:
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=283863&find=unread
It's a link to a Jita Park thread asking for opinions on the matter from CSM members. |
Bronco Platz
Intercosmic Fruit Company
62
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:09:00 -
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Than I cancelled my last account, I accidentally give no reason for it. CCP, would you please add "Somergate"?
No, it can-¦t be for real what they are doing here. CCP prefers Somer in a way, which is not acceptable. I thought, they had a Internal Affairs Department since T20. Was this only a joke?
Could you please reveal, if there are any relationships between CCP Navigator and Somer, ingame or in real life? |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
470
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:09:00 -
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I actually hope this isn't true, and that TheMittani.com got fed a bogus story, because basically it would mean I've paid for and put time into a game that's no different from some teenager's personal game server in which he drops loot for his buddies.
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Evangelina Nolen
Sama Guild
47
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:13:00 -
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Highsec gankers just got wet in their pants. :D |
Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
653
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:16:00 -
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Evangelina Nolen wrote:Highsec gankers just got wet in their pants. :D
Implying us highsec gankers wear pants....
No Pants EVE Day erryday! Don't worry miners, I'm here to help!
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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
26
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:18:00 -
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seriously? the first thing wasn't enough. you gave them a bunch of scorps too? wow, thats like 15-20bil of free isk per employee... and here I am having worked for my isk to be able to buy one thinking it was a unique ship...lol, you're just spawning them out like candy it seems. |
Miku Yumi
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
16
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:21:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:seriously? the first thing wasn't enough. you gave them a bunch of scorps too? wow, thats like 15-20bil of free isk per employee... and here I am having worked for my isk to be able to buy one thinking it was a unique ship...lol, you're just spawning them out like candy it seems.
Just think: all them months grinding level 4 missions to officer fit your marauders in highsec- you could've gotten 20b just by being in the right corporation..
That is- one of CCP's favorite corporations |
Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1371
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:22:00 -
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I am only posting in here to see if I get a ban for posting in here. This is not a signature. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
473
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:29:00 -
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Money Makin Mitch wrote:seriously? the first thing wasn't enough. you gave them a bunch of scorps too? wow, thats like 15-20bil of free isk per employee... and here I am having worked for my isk to be able to buy one thinking it was a unique ship...lol, you're just spawning them out like candy it seems.
Just imagine if you ran a corporation and constantly struggled to keep your members happy, found ways to fund ship replacement programs, put actual money into a teamspeak or mumble server, ran some offsite forums to keep everyone enthusiastic... and then there's this other corp that keeps its members happy just by having CCP deposit loot directly into their hangars!
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Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
26
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Posted - 2013.10.05 07:32:00 -
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Miku Yumi wrote:Money Makin Mitch wrote:seriously? the first thing wasn't enough. you gave them a bunch of scorps too? wow, thats like 15-20bil of free isk per employee... and here I am having worked for my isk to be able to buy one thinking it was a unique ship...lol, you're just spawning them out like candy it seems. Just think: all them months grinding level 4 missions to officer fit your marauders in highsec- you could've gotten 20b just by being in the right corporation.. That is- one of CCP's favorite corporations seriously, right. CCP, you're really making me question why i play this game. i thought this game was about competition, about player skill. it feels pretty good when you snag a good deal, when you see that contract with a couple of missing zeroes before anyone else does, when you private message a dude and end up buying out his whole hangar for a fraction of the value. being a businessman in this game can be fun, but you undermine that when you start doing this **** and giving free stuff out to people. it isn't fair for some people to have to acquire items the regular way, through grinding, diligence, patience, and sometimes just plain luck... while you spawn supposedly limited items on a whim. i was only aware of around 90 scorps when i purchased mine, and you decided to spawn out another 30 to give to one corp.... wow.... that invalidates all the work i put into getting isk to aquire mines. it cheaps the value of the ones that were initially won through player participation... you just gave out 15-20bil of free isk to a bunch of dudes... |
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