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Kate stark
301
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:54:00 -
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sally Deninard wrote:Kate stark wrote:so i stopped following the thread for a while but what i can tell is that CCP have basically said [and not even to us] "it's nbd, the scorpion only refines to 1 trit so people don't need to worry about us clearly playing favourites?"
is that about right? Kotaku had added a real money value to the ship, so they need to de value it to avoid a complete shitstorm. It`s a PR thing "it`s not worth anything" "everybody`s gonna get one" etc etc. From a company standpoint it`s a bad place to be.
i don't even know how to respond, the action then the "justification" are leaving me at a loss to be honest. mostly the justification though. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |

Naradius
Sanguinis Ablutione Angeli Mortis
46
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:54:00 -
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Naradius wrote:Well, after reading the CCP 3rd party site statement, I gained some comfort knowing that in the Ish Scorp, I have finally found a ship just as useless as the Phantasm in my hanger... CCP, I demand reimbursement for my Phantasm (but I would still like to keep it), because every useless ship you have created should be given away. 
Actually, I've changed my mind: I would like CCP to swap my Phantasm for an Ish Scorp, because they are both useless hanger ornaments, and it won't matter...right? "In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move." - Douglas Adams |

Sir Gankal0t
Of The Night
4
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:54:00 -
[573] - Quote
I'm infuriated by this !
On the other hand, I'm starting to think that SOMERblink almost deserves the ishukone ships for creating this much delicious, delicious drama. |

Demon Azrakel
Ouran Host Club
96
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:55:00 -
[574] - Quote
Aiwha wrote:CCP, Seriously, an Amarr fleet Avatar that refines to 1 trit would be cool with me. I'm still waiting.
It would be just fine, as long as it was slightly worse than the T1 version.
/s |

Josef Djugashvilis
Acme Mining Corporation
1384
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:56:00 -
[575] - Quote
If the leaked email is not a fake, CCP Navigator better be able to live up to his name to navigate through this humdinger of a perfect storm. This is not a signature. |

Kate stark
302
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:58:00 -
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Josef Djugashvilis wrote:If the leaked email is not a fake, CCP Navigator better be able to live up to his name to navigate through this humdinger of a perfect storm.
it if was fake, they'd have simply said so by now, about 25 pages or more ago.
i doubt something like this hasn't already been brought to their attention. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |

Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
597
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:59:00 -
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Demon Azrakel wrote:Aiwha wrote:CCP, Seriously, an Amarr fleet Avatar that refines to 1 trit would be cool with me. I'm still waiting. It would be just fine, as long as it was slightly worse than the T1 version. /s
While we're on this, please give away a bunch of... let's call them Navy Reserve Ravens. I have an idea that involves a lot of contracts in Jita. I can't explain it in detail here, but trust me, it will create some wonderful content. For me.
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Cameron Freerunner
Long Jump.
22
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Posted - 2013.10.05 22:59:00 -
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sally Deninard wrote:kotaku[UPDATE] An EVE Online spokesman responds that "The Ishukone Scorpion was created for exactly this sort of purposeGÇöa promo ship for giveaways and special occasions to be used on multiple levels. It has been given out several times already (including some very analogous to this one) and will be given out again in the future for contests, awards, charity-related efforts, 'thanks' and more." Additionally, despite this spacecraft's unique skin, it is "actually worse gameplay-wise than the regular Scorpion and refines to only 1 TritaniumGÇöso it is little more than a hangar ornament." The reason it's in-game price is so high because of the craft's current rarity. "Yet as more are introduced I am pretty sure the market price will lower based on total supply, as we see after the first few days any ship has been added to EVE." Community concerns over the use of the ship as a thank-you have been "carefully noted," and the game is "looking into creating a fuller program for those celebrating the amazing EVE community." It seems CCP have confirmed this to a 3rd party site, but the community isn`t getting an answer Thanks for the link.
It now seems painfully clear that they've opted for the wall of silence with the playerbase. We've made it several weeks into this situation and there has only been one official communication related to Somer and that amounted to "we're changing some stuff slightly, we're gonna do this whether you want us to or not, but we're not going to discuss anything else about it or the decisions underlying it."
Reading that quote from "a CCP representative," it sure does seem like they're telling us to go **** ourselves.
They told us last time that they would no longer listen to what we say, but would instead judge us by what we do. This thread and the ones that preceded it, the monument protests (btw remember when they renamed the monument in honor of the summer of rage? how many of you noticed that they changed the name back to the original?), and the CSM are absolutely irrelevant. Save your breath and your time. There really isn't anything left to talk about. Log off. Just. Log. Off. |

sally Deninard
mss industry
52
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:02:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote:sally Deninard wrote:kotaku[UPDATE] An EVE Online spokesman responds that "The Ishukone Scorpion was created for exactly this sort of purposeGÇöa promo ship for giveaways and special occasions to be used on multiple levels. It has been given out several times already (including some very analogous to this one) and will be given out again in the future for contests, awards, charity-related efforts, 'thanks' and more." Additionally, despite this spacecraft's unique skin, it is "actually worse gameplay-wise than the regular Scorpion and refines to only 1 TritaniumGÇöso it is little more than a hangar ornament." The reason it's in-game price is so high because of the craft's current rarity. "Yet as more are introduced I am pretty sure the market price will lower based on total supply, as we see after the first few days any ship has been added to EVE." Community concerns over the use of the ship as a thank-you have been "carefully noted," and the game is "looking into creating a fuller program for those celebrating the amazing EVE community." It seems CCP have confirmed this to a 3rd party site, but the community isn`t getting an answer Thanks for the link. It now seems painfully clear that they've opted for the wall of silence with the playerbase. We've made it several weeks into this situation and there has only been one official communication related to Somer and that amounted to "we're changing some stuff slightly, we're gonna do this whether you want us to or not, but we're not going to discuss anything else about it or the decisions underlying it." Reading that quote from "a CCP representative," it sure does seem like they're telling us to go **** ourselves. They told us last time that they would no longer listen to what we say, but would instead judge us by what we do. This thread and the ones that preceded it, the monument protests (btw remember when they renamed the monument in honor of the summer of rage? how many of you noticed that they changed the name back to the original?), and the CSM are absolutely irrelevant. Save your breath and your time. There really isn't anything left to talk about. Log off. Just. Log. Off. Yup am gonna throw a big train onto my main and let my alt accs slide i think 07 |

Gul Amarr
Orange County Cruisers
27
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:06:00 -
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Cameron Freerunner wrote: Reading that quote from "a CCP representative," it sure does seem like they're telling us to go **** ourselves.
Yeah - got the message - unsubbed. |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
39
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:07:00 -
[581] - Quote
ok, so let me make sure i'm getting this straight...
CCP just said it doesn't matter that they gave out a bunch of 15bil ships, because they're going to make the ships worthless anyways? yeah, that just further reinforces the shady insider trading **** that makes this whole thing corrupt... good ole blink employees had over a month to sell their items quietly on the market, while everyone else thought it was a limited ship with ~90 runs... you guys introduced a full 30 new units, gave them all to one corp, and let them quietly unload at top dollar? and now i'm going to get stuck holding the bag because i was foolish enough to buy one thinking they were actually, you know, limited? well, thanks for shitting all over me. i run 6 paid accounts, is that not enough income from me? maybe you can replace that income with some more plex purchases through somer  |

Jaun Pacht-Feng
University of Caille Gallente Federation
10
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:07:00 -
[582] - Quote
WWWAAAAAA............WWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAA...........WWWWWWWWWWWWAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA |

Kate stark
302
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:10:00 -
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i see, that even after 28 pages, the point still sails above your head. Yay, this account hasn't had it's signature banned. or it's account, if you're reading this. |

Thomas Hurt
Yan Jung Clique
150
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:10:00 -
[584] - Quote
Basically this. |

Kosakei Sanko
State War Academy Caldari State
14
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:10:00 -
[585] - Quote
Finally someone adds something substantive to the argument!
Seriously, this could all be forgotten if I wake up tomorrow with a unique T3 Khanid battleship called the Castigator in my item hangar. I'd even take Kosa-gator.
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KIller Wabbit
The Scope Gallente Federation
433
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:10:00 -
[586] - Quote
Money Makin Mitch wrote:ok, so let me make sure i'm getting this straight... CCP just said it doesn't matter that they gave out a bunch of 15bil ships, because they're going to make the ships worthless anyways?  yeah, that just further reinforces the shady insider trading **** that makes this whole thing corrupt... good ole blink employees had over a month to sell their items quietly on the market, while everyone else thought it was a limited ship with ~90 runs... you guys introduced a full 30 new units, gave them all to one corp, and let them quietly unload at top dollar? and now i'm going to get stuck holding the bag because i was foolish enough to buy one thinking they were actually, you know, limited? well, thanks for shitting all over me. i run 6 paid accounts, is that not enough income from me? maybe you can replace that income with some more plex purchases through somer 
That is one stinky bag...
My sympathies..
CCP Punkturis-á "I want to get in on the goodposter circle jerk!"
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
4704
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:13:00 -
[587] - Quote
Cameron Freerunner wrote:sally Deninard wrote:kotaku[UPDATE] An EVE Online spokesman responds that "The Ishukone Scorpion was created for exactly this sort of purposeGÇöa promo ship for giveaways and special occasions to be used on multiple levels. It has been given out several times already (including some very analogous to this one) and will be given out again in the future for contests, awards, charity-related efforts, 'thanks' and more." Additionally, despite this spacecraft's unique skin, it is "actually worse gameplay-wise than the regular Scorpion and refines to only 1 TritaniumGÇöso it is little more than a hangar ornament." The reason it's in-game price is so high because of the craft's current rarity. "Yet as more are introduced I am pretty sure the market price will lower based on total supply, as we see after the first few days any ship has been added to EVE." Community concerns over the use of the ship as a thank-you have been "carefully noted," and the game is "looking into creating a fuller program for those celebrating the amazing EVE community." It seems CCP have confirmed this to a 3rd party site, but the community isn`t getting an answer Thanks for the link. It now seems painfully clear that they've opted for the wall of silence with the playerbase. We've made it several weeks into this situation and there has only been one official communication related to Somer and that amounted to "we're changing some stuff slightly, we're gonna do this whether you want us to or not, but we're not going to discuss anything else about it or the decisions underlying it." Reading that quote from "a CCP representative," it sure does seem like they're telling us to go **** ourselves. They told us last time that they would no longer listen to what we say, but would instead judge us by what we do. This thread and the ones that preceded it, the monument protests (btw remember when they renamed the monument in honor of the summer of rage? how many of you noticed that they changed the name back to the original?), and the CSM are absolutely irrelevant. Save your breath and your time. There really isn't anything left to talk about. Log off. Just. Log. Off. I see op success
There are no goons. The goons' 0.0 dream is over.
"Progodlegend said the goal of N3 is to destroy Goonswarm Federation, but in reality NCdot is in Fountain due to the fact it is virtually the last place there is action." ~NC., Fountain 2013 |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16802
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:13:00 -
[588] - Quote
I suppose they might as well give BoB (or their closest living relative) back their BPOs at this point. Their community contribution has been much larger and it's a much smaller gift. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9242
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:14:00 -
[589] - Quote
Little Dragon Khamez wrote:We need a clear statement from the goon leadership that their present position on this is not one of self interest and that they will be happy if no third parties including themselves are given items that do not originate within the game mechanics. The integrity of the sandbox must be preserved at all costs.
I don't understand why this somehow revolves around us. Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Damsel in Distress
Brave Newbies Inc.
75
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:18:00 -
[590] - Quote
Shame on you CCP, you just lost a new player. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1329
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:19:00 -
[591] - Quote
en-+ti-+tle-+ment noun \--êt-½-t+Öl-m+Önt\ : the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
: a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Demon Azrakel
Ouran Host Club
96
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:21:00 -
[592] - Quote
Andski wrote:Little Dragon Khamez wrote:We need a clear statement from the goon leadership that their present position on this is not one of self interest and that they will be happy if no third parties including themselves are given items that do not originate within the game mechanics. The integrity of the sandbox must be preserved at all costs. I don't understand why this somehow revolves around us.
The idea that "if Somer gets it, Goons should" that has been put forward (rather rightfully, I feel the same way about Brave Newbies) has some idiots actually believing that goons want something out of it, instead of wanting CCP to revoke what they have given to others and to stop giving **** out to "awesome 3rd party community services". |

Andski
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
9244
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:21:00 -
[593] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:en-+ti-+tle-+ment noun \--êt-½-t+Öl-m+Önt\ : the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
: a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group
who the **** said anything about entitlement
we're not asking CCP to give us free **** we're asking CCP to stop pouring free **** into their preferred entities while calling this a "sandbox" Twitter: @EVEAndski
TheMittani.com: The premier source for news, commentary and discussion of EVE Online and other games of interest.-á |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16805
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:23:00 -
[594] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:right cuss tech II gear is worse then its tech I version and refines to 1 trit but atleast it has a better skin... so rage!? A BPO doesn't refine into anything, so it must be infinitely more suitable than the IshuScorps.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1329
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:24:00 -
[595] - Quote
Andski wrote:MeBiatch wrote:en-+ti-+tle-+ment noun \--êt-½-t+Öl-m+Önt\ : the condition of having a right to have, do, or get something
: the feeling or belief that you deserve to be given something (such as special privileges)
: a type of financial help provided by the government for members of a particular group who the **** said anything about entitlement we're not asking CCP to give us free **** we're asking CCP to stop pouring free **** into their preferred entities while calling this a "sandbox"
how does a vanity item mess with the sandbox?
There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
446

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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:25:00 -
[596] - Quote
I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 3. Ranting is prohibited.
A rant is a post that is often filled with angry and counterproductive comments. A free exchange of ideas is essential to building a strong sense of community and is helpful in development of the game and community. Rants are disruptive, and incite flaming and trolling. Please post your thoughts in a concise and clear manner while avoiding going off on rambling tangents. ISD Ezwal Lt. Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16808
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:26:00 -
[597] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:how does a vanity item mess with the sandbox? The same way all valuables do.
GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

MeBiatch
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1329
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:27:00 -
[598] - Quote
Tippia wrote:MeBiatch wrote:right cuss tech II gear is worse then its tech I version and refines to 1 trit but atleast it has a better skin... so rage!? A BPO doesn't refine into anything, so it must be infinitely more suitable than the IshuScorps.
i still dont see how people are upset about this.
honestly
tech II bpo at a time before invention... sure
making me look at a door instead of a station... you betcha
giving out legacy items from eve lore... well ok kinda
making a ship that has no real value and is just a dust collector to give out as prizes and to people who they want to thank for promoting the game...   
just dont see the rage on the last one.
the only reason i can see is there is some sort of entitlement issue here.
this is what happens from a generation of every one wins i guess. There are no stupid Questions... just stupid people... Winter Expansion new ship request |

Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
16808
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:28:00 -
[599] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote: i still dont see how people are upset about this.
Yes you do. You just like trolling people over it.
No. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: newbie skill plan 2.0. |

Money Makin Mitch
Paid in Full
40
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Posted - 2013.10.05 23:29:00 -
[600] - Quote
MeBiatch wrote:Tippia wrote:MeBiatch wrote:right cuss tech II gear is worse then its tech I version and refines to 1 trit but atleast it has a better skin... so rage!? A BPO doesn't refine into anything, so it must be infinitely more suitable than the IshuScorps. i still dont see how people are upset about this. honestly tech II bpo at a time before invention... sure making me look at a door instead of a station... you betcha giving out legacy items from eve lore... well ok kinda making a ship that has no real value and is just a dust collector to give out as prizes and to people who they want to thank for promoting the game...    just dont see the rage on the last one. the only reason i can see is there is some sort of entitlement issue here. this is what happens from a generation of every one wins i guess.
go look at the price history of the item. go check the sell orders subforum. you're seriously trying to argue that it has no value? |
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