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Bomberlocks CTRL-Q 58	Posted - 2011.11.24 02:01:00 - [511] - Quote Liang Nuren wrote: Bomberlocks wrote: Zarnak Wulf wrote: CCP Tallest just updated the hybrid rebalance thread. After Crucible they will be pursuing further balancing that might include: Looking at scorch vs. Null vs. Barrage T1 ammo revision for hybrids and possibly lasers Something to get blaster boats in range. Armor vs. Shield and passive vs. Active tanking Light and medium webber drones Individual ship balancing. And that all makes this thread moot now. I would appreciate it being locked. Thank you. I predict a new thread: BUFF AMARR!!!!!!! There's cases where I think that's a really good idea. The Prophecy, Omen, and all 1 mid slot ships come rather strongly come to mind. Even the Harbinger and Absolution could use some fitting love to make them comfortable like the Drake and Cane. -Liang Considering the lack of thinking present in the OP and co's arguments vis a vis the future hybrid platforms (I really wonder if most of them have forgotten about the existence of drone platforms?), I'll be right there whining for that buff as well. This has gone beyond ridiculous. Things like the Navy Vexor and Navy Domi are going to be somewhat OP now.
Jaxemont Look At This Amazing Bullet 7	Posted - 2011.11.24 02:24:00 - [512] - Quote How about we just give every race that isn't Minmatar +10-20% PG. Minmatar don't get nerfed and other races get more ships that aren't a pain in the ass to fit. That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Ship: Powergrid Cyclone: 1210 Hurricane: 1350 Brutix: 1150 Myrmidon: 1175 A tier 1 BC has more PG than a tier 2? It's not just with Battlecruisers either. :( Gallente ship re-balancing better address this.
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 208	Posted - 2011.11.24 02:36:00 - [513] - Quote Jaxemont wrote: How about we just give every race that isn't Minmatar +10-20% PG. Minmatar don't get nerfed and other races get more ships that aren't a pain in the ass to fit. That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Ship: Powergrid Cyclone: 1210 Hurricane: 1350 Brutix: 1150 Myrmidon: 1175 A tier 1 BC has more PG than a tier 2? It's not just with Battlecruisers either. :( Gallente ship re-balancing better address this. When you're kited by Winmatar, you're still dead. More buffer only prolongs the inevitable. What Winmatar need is less speed, or alternately, more speed for other 3 races.
whaynethepain 11	Posted - 2011.11.24 05:17:00 - [514] - Quote M8, it took a while to train T II projectile guns. The other weapons should be more powerful perhaps. Hybrids are being buffed. Lasers seem overly week with multiple beams scorching a single shield, but hey. Try not to drag things down to a level, try making stuff better, I dare you.
Desudes Federal Defence Union Gallente Federation 34	Posted - 2011.11.24 05:51:00 - [515] - Quote Goose99 wrote: When you're kited by Winmatar, you're still dead. More buffer only prolongs the inevitable. What Winmatar need is less speed, or alternately, more speed for other 3 races. I thought the answer to getting kited was to have your buddy slow them for you. Excuse me, but what the fck are you desu?*
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 105	Posted - 2011.11.24 06:21:00 - [516] - Quote Jaxemont wrote: That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Caldari missile boats are not particularly hard to fit. That being said, the Drake requires fitting mods for a ganglink, while the Cane does not.
Tara Read The Clean Up Crew S E D I T I O N 7	Posted - 2011.11.24 07:04:00 - [517] - Quote Tanya Powers wrote: Tara Read wrote: Kingwood wrote: Tara Read wrote: Being in your enemies face, grinding them into the dust... Yeah... That's why I love flying close quarters. Either you or them no holds barred. Either you go up in flames or I do. Quoting this for hilarity. Hilarity? Oh you sad strange little man. Is 28km too close to you in that cane of yours? Typical kids these days. If they cant stay out of point web and scram range they wont fly it. Pussies the lot of you I say!! Lol. "My blaster megathron can hit you CANE at 28km, I win !!" Well, my maelstrom or my pest can hit your blaster brutix or your blaster mega at over 70km and there's nothing you can do. Usual Edit for lols because I can: yes you can gtfo and dock until you have 10 friends free to help you kill the bad guy. I rather like the maelstrom. Its like a giant rusty sail barge with guns. Tbh though if rails were a tad better this includes post patch changes, I can see them being used more often. I loved flying a sniper mega almost as much aa a blaster fit. Well almost lol. Another point is come on guys. Ccp will never make everyone happy, each ship has its advantages and disadvantages. Its once again how you fly it and strategy in dealing with certain fittings. Blaster boat? Kite it. Cane? Tackle it and blast it out of the sky. Active tank? Neut it to hell. Its not that difficult people.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2011.11.24 11:18:00 - [518] - Quote Mfume Apocal wrote: Jaxemont wrote: That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Caldari missile boats are not particularly hard to fit. That being said, the Drake requires fitting mods for a ganglink, while the Cane does not. not hard ... sure... lets compare cerb vs vaga cerb with 5 ham+mwd remain 312 cpu 76 pg vaga with 5 425mm ac+mwd remain 349cpu 225pg both of them are shield tanking ships and bcu needs more cpu than gyros so if you want to fit a shield extender cerb needs some pg rigs/modules/implants yeah totally not hard to fit,the other caldari ships are the same dumb ignorant matar fanboy
Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 107	Posted - 2011.11.24 11:27:00 - [519] - Quote Naomi Knight wrote: Mfume Apocal wrote: Jaxemont wrote: That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Caldari missile boats are not particularly hard to fit. That being said, the Drake requires fitting mods for a ganglink, while the Cane does not. not hard ... sure... lets compare cerb vs vaga cerb with 5 ham+mwd remain 312 cpu 76 pg vaga with 5 425mm ac+mwd remain 349cpu 225pg both of them are shield tanking ships and bcu needs more cpu than gyros so if you want to fit a shield extender cerb needs some pg rigs/modules/implants yeah totally not hard to fit,the other caldari ships are the same dumb ignorant matar fanboy That's because HAMs are harder to fit on Caldari than HMLs. You'd have problems fitting an arty Vaga too.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2011.11.24 11:39:00 - [520] - Quote Mfume Apocal wrote: That's because HAMs are harder to fit on Caldari than HMLs. You'd have problems fitting an arty Vaga too. yeah a little harder due to lame pg need for ham and siege launchers with 5hml+mwd cerb has 293cpu 171pg still lower than the vaga at least this way i can fit 1 lonely extender if ham wastn so useless i would fit those on cerb over hml btw vaga with arty is nonsense there is the muninn for that but there is no different hml and ham caldari ships and you can still go with lower tier guns to ease fitting

Onictus Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge 38	Posted - 2011.11.24 11:39:00 - [521] - Quote Naomi Knight wrote: Mfume Apocal wrote: Jaxemont wrote: That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Caldari missile boats are not particularly hard to fit. That being said, the Drake requires fitting mods for a ganglink, while the Cane does not. not hard ... sure... lets compare cerb vs vaga cerb with 5 ham+mwd remain 312 cpu 76 pg vaga with 5 425mm ac+mwd remain 349cpu 225pg both of them are shield tanking ships and bcu needs more cpu than gyros so if you want to fit a shield extender cerb needs some pg rigs/modules/implants yeah totally not hard to fit,the other caldari ships are the same dumb ignorant matar fanboy You have never fit a Vaga have you.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2011.11.24 11:55:00 - [522] - Quote Onictus wrote: Naomi Knight wrote: Mfume Apocal wrote: Jaxemont wrote: That's my main annoyance with Minmatar at least. How come only one race gets to be easy to fit, while the others are a nightmare? Caldari missile boats are not particularly hard to fit. That being said, the Drake requires fitting mods for a ganglink, while the Cane does not. not hard ... sure... lets compare cerb vs vaga cerb with 5 ham+mwd remain 312 cpu 76 pg vaga with 5 425mm ac+mwd remain 349cpu 225pg both of them are shield tanking ships and bcu needs more cpu than gyros so if you want to fit a shield extender cerb needs some pg rigs/modules/implants yeah totally not hard to fit,the other caldari ships are the same dumb ignorant matar fanboy You have never fit a Vaga have you. did i say i would fit 425mm ac? or what? I wouldnt use ham on cerb neighter that doesnt mean i cant use them to compare fitting restrictions i jumped vaga btw and use cyna ,it isnt more costly at all and still better by far
Onictus Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge 38	Posted - 2011.11.24 12:05:00 - [523] - Quote Naomi Knight wrote: did i say i would fit 425mm ac? or what? I wouldnt use ham on cerb neighter that doesnt mean i cant use them to compare fitting restrictions i jumped vaga btw and use cyna ,it isnt more costly at all and still better by far So you don't know then You do understand that you fit two TE/s because there isn't enough CPU for Gyros, and you can't T2 fit its tank if you want anything in your slot 6 that isn't a PG implant. Which is why you see them with a LSE II and a Regolith a lot of the time, that pilot either want something useful for that hardwire, or can't be arsed to change clones every time he wants to use the hull. For this you get less tank than a Cerb and likely less applied DPS, Cynbal is different ball game.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 55	Posted - 2011.11.24 12:12:00 - [524] - Quote Onictus wrote: Naomi Knight wrote: did i say i would fit 425mm ac? or what? I wouldnt use ham on cerb neighter that doesnt mean i cant use them to compare fitting restrictions i jumped vaga btw and use cyna ,it isnt more costly at all and still better by far So you don't know then You do understand that you fit two TE/s because there isn't enough CPU for Gyros, and you can't T2 fit its tank if you want anything in your slot 6 that isn't a PG implant. Which is why you see them with a LSE II and a Regolith a lot of the time, that pilot either want something useful for that hardwire, or can't be arsed to change clones every time he wants to use the hull. For this you get less tank than a Cerb and likely less applied DPS, Cynbal is different ball game. so with more cpu to spend on rest of the fit it is harder to fit than the cerb , that is just totally believable pls show me the fit where vaga runs out of cpu thx
Onictus Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge 38	Posted - 2011.11.24 12:17:00 - [525] - Quote Naomi Knight wrote: Onictus wrote: Naomi Knight wrote: did i say i would fit 425mm ac? or what? I wouldnt use ham on cerb neighter that doesnt mean i cant use them to compare fitting restrictions i jumped vaga btw and use cyna ,it isnt more costly at all and still better by far So you don't know then You do understand that you fit two TE/s because there isn't enough CPU for Gyros, and you can't T2 fit its tank if you want anything in your slot 6 that isn't a PG implant. Which is why you see them with a LSE II and a Regolith a lot of the time, that pilot either want something useful for that hardwire, or can't be arsed to change clones every time he wants to use the hull. For this you get less tank than a Cerb and likely less applied DPS, Cynbal is different ball game. so with more cpu to spend on rest of the fit it is harder to fit than the cerb , that is just totally believable pls show me the fit where vaga runs out of cpu thx Bah you are right, that was a fleet stabber, now that I look.
PAAX PyroStorm Enforcers STR8NGE BREW 0	Posted - 2011.11.26 19:46:00 - [526] - Quote BALANCE COMING IN NEXT YEARS EXPANSION PACK ARMAGEDDON AMARR +1 HOLY HAND GRENADE GALLENTE +1 HOMING PIDGEON MINMATAR +1 BANNANA BOMB CALDARI +1 SHEEP LAUNCHER
PAAX PyroStorm Enforcers STR8NGE BREW 0	Posted - 2011.11.26 19:47:00 - [527] - Quote BALANCE COMING IN NEXT YEARS EXPANSION PACK ARMAGEDDON AMARR +1 HOLY HAND GRENADE GALLENTE +1 HOMING PIDGEON MINMATAR +1 BANNANA BOMB CALDARI +1 SHEEP LAUNCHER
Asuka Smith Royal Black Watch Highlanders 1	Posted - 2011.11.26 20:04:00 - [528] - Quote I think people are in denial because if minmatar get nerfed they don't have anything else trained. Minmatar are the best race byy far. Sub capital their ship is the best ship in every case except ship specific gang compositions. As a bitter vet who can fly all four races I don't really care if they get nerfed, but they are basically all I fly outside of specialty ships. I fly ishtar and lachesis only from gallente because hurricane and vagabond > anything gallente have. My 220 acs can pop most frigates with ease and shoot as far as scorch, with a choice of damage. That rules. I'll fly it until it gets nerfed with pride but it ought to get nerfed. For other examples why fly really outside of an armor ab logi gang? Why fly harbinger > hurricane? Caldari have drake and falcon lol.
Zarnak Wulf Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic 109	Posted - 2011.11.26 20:28:00 - [529] - Quote PAAX wrote: BALANCE COMING IN NEXT YEARS EXPANSION PACK ARMAGEDDON AMARR +1 HOLY HAND GRENADE GALLENTE +1 HOMING PIDGEON MINMATAR +1 BANNANA BOMB CALDARI +1 SHEEP LAUNCHER Let the thread die. Moron.
Liang Nuren Perkone Caldari State 105	Posted - 2011.11.26 20:30:00 - [530] - Quote Asuka Smith wrote: I think people are in denial because if minmatar get nerfed they don't have anything else trained. Minmatar are the best race byy far. You are totally right. I have nothing else trained. At all. -Liang Looking for WH PVP corp.-á Normally on 5:00 -> 9-10:00 Eve (Aus TZ?) Blog: http://liangnuren.wordpress.com Twitter: http://twitter.com/LiangNuren Recruit me: http://wp.me/p1WQ0O-R

Mfume Apocal Origin. Black Legion. 124	Posted - 2011.11.26 22:55:00 - [531] - Quote Asuka Smith wrote: I think people are in denial because if minmatar get nerfed they don't have anything else trained. This is a bad post.
Goose99 Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 236	Posted - 2011.11.26 22:58:00 - [532] - Quote Once Minmatar got nerfed, you'll actually have to think of what boats with what loadouts to fly under what conditions, as opposed to one race kits all.
indicast Guns Unlimited Inc. 7	Posted - 2011.11.30 09:32:00 - [533] - Quote Zarnak Wulf wrote: Two thoughts: Lose the ~9% DPS increase that short range ammo got with the projectile buff. The purification of damage type was more then enough. Reduce the tracking enhancer falloff bonus from 30% to 15%. Discuss. if they nerf minmatar 80% of the game will unsubscribe lol :P good luck with that
indicast Guns Unlimited Inc. 7	Posted - 2011.11.30 11:43:00 - [534] - Quote Kingwood wrote: - Deimos walks over a Cynabal or Vaga. It's easier getting someone into scram range than to stay out of it.
Takeshi Yamato ALA Biomedical 4	Posted - 2011.11.30 12:29:00 - [535] - Quote Minmatar used to be bad, but after many buffs they have a few advantages too many. It's not any particular area, it's all the advantages taken together. It used to be the case that the unique advantages were justified by low dps, but that's no longer the case today.
Lars Zundi Sons Of 0din Fatal Ascension 1	Posted - 2011.11.30 14:18:00 - [536] - Quote Back when I started playing Mimatar used to be regarded as 'hard mode' eve! Many of the ships had split weapon systems and needed huge & diverse SP input to fly properly, but were fantastic in the control of a properly skilled and experienced pilot. (Phoon being the prime example) You ****** up your fit or your flying and you generally got ripped apart though. I feel minmatar has lost their flavour somewhat. Barely keeping out of web range of an angry mega and managing to pop him in a split weapon, low tank matari BS was bloody good fun. The difference is if you got snagged back then you died in a fire. If you get snagged now you can often out shoot, out tank, and if all else fails still outrun any same size hull from other races. Buffs/nerfs are a revolutionary process ofc, give it another few years and we may well all be complaing how OP Gallente is..
Onictus Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge 49	Posted - 2011.11.30 15:01:00 - [537] - Quote heh this thread is like a Japanese cochroach circa 1946.
Naomi Knight Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 69	Posted - 2011.12.01 10:51:00 - [538] - Quote Oh just found another matar advantage lower costs of ships tornado 45m talos 55m yeah balanced....
Onictus Legendary Knights Vorpal's Edge 51	Posted - 2011.12.01 11:03:00 - [539] - Quote Gallente is always more expensive due to noxium requirements... Where a Myrm goes for 42(ish) you see Hurricanes around 26 and drakes just under 30......then you get to load Myrm with about 15-20 drones which adds up to another 10-12 mil or so.
Tara Read The Clean Up Crew S E D I T I O N 14	Posted - 2011.12.02 06:49:00 - [540] - Quote Just give my megathron a web range bonus and everything will be fine keep your rust buckets. Gallente for life!



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