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Trii Seo
Sabotage Incorporated Executive Outcomes
230
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:10:00 -
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Renegade Heart wrote:baltec1 wrote:We don't even press F1 these days. Okay clearly we must nerf drones too! Perhaps all future pvp fights can be decided in an Arena that will only allow equally matched players to fight each other so we can ensure that skill will prevail!
"Frankly, my good sir, your continued ownership of 6VDT is an insult to me, my wife and my camel. Tomorrow we shall meet in Jita, lance-enyos at dawn!"
Well, to be honest there have been continued nerfs to ganking:
- boomerang got fixed (for those few unaware wtf boomeranging was, it allowed evading CONCORD and lining up a few ganks with one ship) - barge hitpoints got buffed (that's for miner ganking, not the usual gate one but still) - insurance on suicide ganking ships was removed
For now gankers have a simple algorithm. Does it have shiney cargo, the drop of which (1/2 average, you can get rich or get shafted of course) will cover our ganking ships + profit?
If yes, gank it. if no, don't gank it.
As for pods... well, there's plenty of dumb people flying full implant pods AFK through hisec. They get podded, but if the ganker just keeps at it they'll burn sec really fast - plus, a lot of pods are empty anyway so it's just waste of a thrasher.
And no, you can't gank -> biomass burn alt -> roll another alt, it's kind of going to get you b&d. |
Jarod Garamonde
Sardaukar Merc Guild General Tso's Alliance
594
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:15:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Its getting old. Every second or third jump there are idiot alts in destroyers ganking people. My computer almost died yesterday loading hundreds of concord ships at a high sec gate. Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap.
You guys changed siphons because they were too cheap and griefer like for the big alliances after their big whine fest. Man up and do something about the state of high sec and their alt gankers.
No I haven't been ganked but its annoying to have to make every single high sec jump and not be able to afk at all in "safe space" even in a crappy non faction fitted frigate and its annoying to see people killing other people in high sec with no risk in cheap lame ass destroyers - make them work for it, this is EvE Online, its not Counterstrike.
Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
At the moment all it requires is a cheap destroyer and a low skilled alt account.
This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.
Time to fix your game in this respect, its crap and broken.
Zi, you are WAY too old to be complaining about stuff like this. I expect more out of a fellow "ancient". Unless you're "under new management"... in which case, knock the EULA-violation crap off before you get another old toon permabanned. |
Nick Curso
Reikoku Pandemic Legion
14
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:16:00 -
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If you get mugged on the street when do the police arrive, before or after the mugging?.... |
Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
18
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:34:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turning into rubbish.
Your favorite part of EVE is staying afk in hi-sec?
You play this since 2003 and don't know that Hi-sec isn't the safest place in the game? |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:34:00 -
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Problem is, to really change anything, there would have to be pretty drastic measures put into place, like: IP locked accounts and one security rating over all of them... practically nowhere to go for low sec standing players in high sec - stations refusing service, gate/station guns KOS, etc.
Some gankers don't gank for reward, they gank for LOLs and tears. They don't care about their sec standing nor their ships... those gankers are the real "problem".
Diaper rash and boredom can do the ungliest things to a young mind... |
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:37:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Problem is, to really change anything, there would have to be pretty drastic measures put into place, like: IP locked accounts and one security rating over all of them... practically nowhere to go for low sec standing players in high sec - stations refusing service, gate/station guns KOS, etc. Some gankers don't gank for reward, they gank for LOLs and tears. They don't care about their sec standing nor their ships... those gankers are the real "problem". Diaper rash and boredom can do the ungliest things to a young mind...
I like your hair |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:39:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:I like your hair Oh, why thank you hon, that's very sweet of you! |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
868
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:51:00 -
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I like to kill cockies and to eat ships....wait, think I got it wrong... High Sek too stronk!! |
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:53:00 -
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Eugene Kerner wrote:I like to kill cockies and to eat ships....wait, think I got it wrong... High Sek too stronk!!
You like to eat cockies and kill ships? |
Clyde Belvar
Ambition..
0
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:57:00 -
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This game is becoming unplayable because of ganking happening right now. 2 years ago when i started playing with my main char i didn't see nearly as much ganking as it is now.I was on my eve brake for 4 months,now recently i came back and game is completely changed,which shows that there is a serious problem of people exploiting game mechanics. Now you see gankers everywhere,ganking mission runners,ganking miners,setting up gate camps in cheap ass ships in hisec and camping stations all day. You are not even safe in pod since there will be some ass who will kill you anyways. This character i made for trading and manifacturing,now i can't even move my stuff around because i know someone will probably gank me,it doesn't matter what ship i fly,indie freighter they can be shot down in seconds,and i am never autopiloting. I lost more isk in 4 days then my main char lost in 2 years living in lowsec nullsec and wh's,how can it be right?
Worse thing is that there are no consequences for gankers,yeah they might get kill right on them,but they will undock in shuttle and get it off. Gankers should be charged for crime they do,something like 50% of total isk lost they should repay to victim.So if 2 catalysts destroy hulk they wallets go negative 50 mil each,and if they don't have isk wallet goes -50 mil.Why not make ganking more hard?
I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. |
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Mythrandier
Spacelane Salvage
133
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:57:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:I like to kill cockies and to eat ships....wait, think I got it wrong... High Sek too stronk!! You like to eat cockies and kill ships?
Speaking of whichGǪ Is it just me, or does Michiko's avatar look a little bit too much like Sasha Grey to be a coincidence? |
March rabbit
True Horde
857
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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Taal Khurin wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: However, lets imagine instead I got pinged at a gate by a gank squad of cats. 5 Cats could do it easily in a 0.5 .
Catalysts ganking on a gate? Unlikely, gate guns make short work of zero tanked dessies. because catalysts need time to kill pods and industrials
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Taal Khurin
Happy Asteroid Ltd
60
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Posted - 2013.11.05 13:58:00 -
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am i tegh lony oewn woph cna tyope poroplpy arundf heerf? |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:01:00 -
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Clyde Belvar wrote:I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Nah... it's acttually like: How many potential players never even start the game because of everything they read/hear about it...
...but there are enough people in this game that are completely fine with that, so. *shrugs* |
Arduemont
The State of War.
2321
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:02:00 -
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Highsec doesn't need to be safer.
It needs to be more dangerous. Especially for gankers, and their risk free PvP. |
Eugene Kerner
TunDraGon
868
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:02:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Eugene Kerner wrote:I like to kill cockies and to eat ships....wait, think I got it wrong... High Sek too stronk!! You like to eat cockies and kill ships?
See...thats how messed up high sec is...no wonder OP is scared! |
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
257
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:03:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Nah... it's acttually like: How many potential players never even start the game because of everything they read/hear about it... ...but there are enough people in this game that are completely fine with that, so. *shrugs*
3 of my friends were like "F THAT your a masochist" .. and i had no rebuttal... cause whips and gags and stuff |
Richard Ramlrez
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
19
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:06:00 -
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Arduemont wrote:Highsec doesn't need to be safer.
It needs to be more dangerous. Especially for gankers, and their risk free PvP.
That ill have to agree. CCP is ok with risk free ganking. And yea they prob lost hundreds of thousands of potential subscribers due to this. |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:14:00 -
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Richard Ramlrez wrote:That ill have to agree. CCP is ok with risk free ganking. And yea they prob lost hundreds of thousands of potential subscribers due to this. True dat... well, at least hundreds. |
ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2373
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:17:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Killing other players should require skill, it should require brains, it should require risk and it should require a war dec or going to low sec or null sec.
Guys, ignore them! It's a troll! You can tell by the way they think nullsec PVP requires skill or brains. Ctrl+click -> F1 is not brains.
EDIT: And OP, if you spent weeks dodging the Goons in null you're doing it wrong. Just don't go to their space. Stay in your own, you'll never see a non-blue again. Problem solved. |
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Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
3229
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:19:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Mythrandier wrote:There is only one thing better than butthurt on EvE-O and that is Infinity Ziona butthurt.
In that respect this thread delivers in vast, vast quantities. I'm not butthurt. I'm annoyed that my favorite game's gameplay is turned into rubbish in 2003 because it's always been this way even if I can't understand why.
Fixed. |
Rhivre
TarNec Invisible Exchequer
524
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:20:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Nah... it's acttually like: How many potential players never even start the game because of everything they read/hear about it... ...so, yea, either a) CCP completely breaks the game for gankers at some point, or b) lives with what they have got, and probably loose more players in the future. *shrugs* There are enough people in this game that are completely fine with the latter option, though.
Well...how many potential players are put off by hyperbole and rhetoric of gankers at every undock, and probably hiding in your captains quarters waiting to gank you when you sit down to watch some ****?
I hear that as soon as you jump through a gate, you get ganked, and that everyone always steals all your stuff and screws you over...no wonder players are put off by hearing this....if it were actually true then the population of afkers in eve would be way lower and we would have no freight transport services, and I would probably be much richer through collateral payouts. |
Skeln Thargensen
Alpha Sperglords
264
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:21:00 -
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I agree that the AP gank is highly annoying, especially if your FC decides you need to be 20 jumps away and you have to manually jump the whole frikkin way.
so you can jump 8 light years across low/null instantly.
and attention paid = 0. i just sit reading forum/news/mittani and cick jump to the yellow gate every time i hear a session change. |
Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
221
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:22:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Mythrandier wrote:A gang (I.E multiple people working together, it IS an MMO after all) are always going to win. Off-topic, about a decade ago, I remember reading a story how six gang bangers thought that lone man minding his own business was an easy mark. Afterwards, there were three dead, two hospitalized, and one traumatized. Turned out the lone man was a Marine drill sergeant.
Also off topic, but I actually know of a marine drill sergeant who got his ass royally handed to him (permanent injuries and disfigurement) when he got jumped by three gangbangers. They just destroyed him.
Because real life is nothing like the movie you just watched. That marine drill sergeant fought back and got stomped for it. |
Prince Kobol
1109
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:22:00 -
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Clyde Belvar wrote:This game is becoming unplayable because of ganking happening right now. 2 years ago when i started playing with my main char i didn't see nearly as much ganking as it is now.I was on my eve brake for 4 months,now recently i came back and game is completely changed,which shows that there is a serious problem of people exploiting game mechanics. Now you see gankers everywhere,ganking mission runners,ganking miners,setting up gate camps in cheap ass ships in hisec and camping stations all day. You are not even safe in pod since there will be some ass who will kill you anyways. This character i made for trading and manifacturing,now i can't even move my stuff around because i know someone will probably gank me,it doesn't matter what ship i fly,indie freighter they can be shot down in seconds,and i am never autopiloting. I lost more isk in 4 days then my main char lost in 2 years living in lowsec nullsec and wh's,how can it be right?
Worse thing is that there are no consequences for gankers,yeah they might get kill right on them,but they will undock in shuttle and get it off. Gankers should be charged for crime they do,something like 50% of total isk lost they should repay to victim.So if 2 catalysts destroy hulk they wallets go negative 50 mil each,and if they don't have isk wallet goes -50 mil.Why not make ganking more hard?
I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships.
Wow, you see I have the total opposite experience.
I have been ganked twice in my life when I first started playing Eve and both times it was completely my fault. It was nearly 3 years ago now.
Since then I have moved 100's of billions of isk worth of crap thoughout all of Eve, that include all area's of space and I have never lost one ship to gank..
So whilst some say it never been this bad, because of my own experience, I just go along with you were stupid and now are crying about it. |
Linna Baresi
18
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:23:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Nah... it's acttually like: How many potential players never even start the game because of everything they read/hear about it... [...]
This is something I can confirm. I've been playing MMO's for over a decade, and whenever you hear something about EVE in other games, it's always, without exception something bad, and people actively warn you to never, ever play it. Which results in potential players, even those who love SF and spaceships, avoiding it like the plague. Interestingly enough, this includes people from some extremely harsh PVP games. So before anyone comes with that reply, no, it's not a 'carebear' thing.
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog
B.L.U.E L.A.S.E.R.
221
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:24:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:CMD Ishikawa wrote:"2.5 bill on my HAC cargo hold" "The strong should profit and the weak should not"
Someone please gank her as soon as possible, thanks ... I was flying around in null with it all day, that's what makes me strong, I'm not a risk averse girlfriend like you that flinches at the thought of loss. And maybe instead of asking someone to gank me, you grow some and get in a ship yourself?
Wait, flying through null makes you "strong?"
Holy ****, someone call E-UNI, they're one of the strongest corps in EVE . . . they roam through null like every other day, and even have a STRONG CAMPUS there!
Also, regarding your earlier post, please provide me with the fittings for the 2 million isk Catalyst you are so scurred of. I'd love to fly one, but can't find modules that cheap.
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ElQuirko
Jester Syndicate WHY so Seri0Us
2373
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:25:00 -
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Bizzaro Stormy MurphDog wrote:Also off topic, but I actually know of a marine drill sergeant who got his ass royally handed to him (permanent injuries and disfigurement) when he got jumped by three gangbangers. They just destroyed him.
Because real life is nothing like the movie you just watched. That marine drill sergeant fought back and got stomped for it. [Considered making a joke involving weapons timers and burning back to the gate but thought better of it] |
Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:28:00 -
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Rhivre wrote:I hear that as soon as you jump through a gate, you get ganked, and that everyone always steals all your stuff and screws you over...no wonder players are put off by hearing this....if it were actually true then the population of afkers in eve would be way lower and we would have no freight transport services, and I would probably be much richer through collateral payouts. No question, I'm not advocating to make high sec saver, though... if anything, I'm think that all mindless/risk free activities should be looked over, be it ganking OR afk mining... they are both symptoms of the same, basic design flaw EVE suffers from.
...the game deserves it's public reputation, but that's only in part the communities fault. |
Mara Tessidar
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
953
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:29:00 -
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I wish CCP would do something about the idiots in highsec and ban them from posting on the forums. |
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