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Clyde Belvar
Ambition..
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:42:00 -
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Prince Kobol wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:This game is becoming unplayable because of ganking happening right now. 2 years ago when i started playing with my main char i didn't see nearly as much ganking as it is now.I was on my eve brake for 4 months,now recently i came back and game is completely changed,which shows that there is a serious problem of people exploiting game mechanics. Now you see gankers everywhere,ganking mission runners,ganking miners,setting up gate camps in cheap ass ships in hisec and camping stations all day. You are not even safe in pod since there will be some ass who will kill you anyways. This character i made for trading and manifacturing,now i can't even move my stuff around because i know someone will probably gank me,it doesn't matter what ship i fly,indie freighter they can be shot down in seconds,and i am never autopiloting. I lost more isk in 4 days then my main char lost in 2 years living in lowsec nullsec and wh's,how can it be right?
Worse thing is that there are no consequences for gankers,yeah they might get kill right on them,but they will undock in shuttle and get it off. Gankers should be charged for crime they do,something like 50% of total isk lost they should repay to victim.So if 2 catalysts destroy hulk they wallets go negative 50 mil each,and if they don't have isk wallet goes -50 mil.Why not make ganking more hard?
I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Wow, you see I have the total opposite experience. I have been ganked twice in my life when I first started playing Eve and both times it was completely my fault. It was nearly 3 years ago now. Since then I have moved 100's of billions of isk worth of crap thoughout all of Eve, that include all area's of space and I have never lost one ship to gank.. So whilst some say it never been this bad, because of my own experience, I just go along with you were stupid and now are crying about it.
Dude if you got lucky by not being ganked its cool,but don't call someone stupid because he got ganked,in 2 years i was ganked once in last 4 days i was ganked 4 times,is that normal?Check how many corps alliances are doing only ganking now,before there was just goons.Check how many freighters and indies are being killed now.Only thing i am asking is for game to be fair for everyone,why you so against changes on ganking? |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:42:00 -
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This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. |
Velicitia
Emergent Avionics
1776
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:50:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo.
he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker.
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Shalua Rui
Rui Freelance Mining
22209
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:51:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people. As I said: One IP per person, and all accounts played from that one IP have the same reputation/sec status... but since CCP profits greatly from mutliboxers, it would never happen. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:53:00 -
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Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker.
Then why aren't people just hiring escorts?
Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely?
If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them. |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:54:00 -
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Shalua Rui wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people. As I said: One IP per person, and all accounts played from that one IP have the same reputation/sec status... but since CCP profits greatly from mutliboxers, it would never happen.
They could still have a friend do it, which is slightly better but still I hope there's a flag put on them.
Just because you didn't kill someone doesn't make you not an accomplice to murder. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
54
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:54:00 -
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Ganking definitely needs to be looked at, just not in the way these people want. Suspect and criminal tags shouldn't count down while docked. If players can't hide behind CONCORD to stop gankers, gankers shouldn't be able to hide in station to stop players. That's the only thing that needs to change. Cheap, easily replaced ships is the pirate way so those should stay. High DPS able to blow through ships benefits everybody, so keep that for sure. And let those whiners in other MMOs cry about EVE, they're the reason I found this amazing game. |
Babbet Bunny
State War Academy Caldari State
6
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Posted - 2013.11.05 14:55:00 -
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Gank the gankers. They are flying untanked ships.
I autopilot through Highsec all the time with either a bubblewrapped PLEX or Trit.
Please play my game ;). Many have gambled.
The looting alts do go suspect, just need an alt there to tackle them.
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:01:00 -
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Babbet Bunny wrote:Gank the gankers. They are flying untanked ships.
I autopilot through Highsec all the time with either a bubblewrapped PLEX or Trit.
Please play my game ;). Many have gambled.
The looting alts do go suspect, just need an alt there to tackle them.
So, in conclusion, it's not really broken at all? You're going to die, but you don't have to lose your stuff. |
Felicity Love
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
956
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:03:00 -
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Goddamn this is an awwwwwwwwwsooom thread... and this time I brought enough popcorn for everyone. |
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Clyde Belvar
Ambition..
1
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:06:00 -
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Jythier Smith wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker. Then why aren't people just hiring escorts? Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely? If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them.
So what you suggesting is for every freighter pilot to hire escorts?Or train more chars for logi supports?Sounds dumb to me |
oOReikaOo Michiko
The Scope Gallente Federation
260
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:08:00 -
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Clyde Belvar wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker. Then why aren't people just hiring escorts? Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely? If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them. So what you suggesting is for every freighter pilot to hire escorts?Or train more chars for logi supports?Sounds dumb to me
Yes , cause lets invent a new past time more boring then mining... ESCORTING (unless were talking about the other escorting, didn't know you were into that)
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Delt0r Garsk
Shits N Giggles
27
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:11:00 -
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I don't often gank.
But when i do, I use my main.
More seriously ganking was easier in the past, not harder. You can't make a huge number of alts without spending more than you would get from just using that RL cash for plex. So you have alts that gank. Then you have kill rights on them etc.
Also IP stuff won't work either. Its trivial to have VPN setting etc so you can have 3-4 different IP numbers. I have 3 from this computer right now.
I got ganked in RL this year. 3 broken ribs and a broken laptop. I got over it. The amount of tears over space pixels is hilarious.
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Winter Archipelago
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
141
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:12:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Spending weeks in null dodging Goons and then come back to supposedly safe space and its more of the same crap. There's your problem: Highsec isn't safe, there are just consequences for opening fire on someone without having bribed CONCORD to look the other way.
As for not being able to autopilot? I was doing it constantly, even in industrials carrying around 50-100m ISK in cargo, for about a week (moving my base of operations closer to the FW zone, prior to actually joining FW). Never once got shot at, and I probably made around 20 trips.
Not one single problem in over 400 jumps.
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Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:14:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker. Then why aren't people just hiring escorts? Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely? If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them. So what you suggesting is for every freighter pilot to hire escorts?Or train more chars for logi supports?Sounds dumb to me Yes , cause lets invent a new past time more boring then mining... ESCORTING (unless were talking about the other escorting, didn't know you were into that)
The point is that it WON'T be boring unless you don't NEED an escort. IE, gankers are going to gank. They don't need to know you have an escort until after they shoot you. Or, like they said, the escort could gank the gankers before they get you. Scout ahead, see gankers, kill them, then you go through. Etc.
We can make this fun. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
982
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:16:00 -
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Guttripper wrote:Mythrandier wrote:A gang (I.E multiple people working together, it IS an MMO after all) are always going to win. Off-topic, about a decade ago, I remember reading a story how six gang bangers thought that lone man minding his own business was an easy mark. Afterwards, there were three dead, two hospitalized, and one traumatized. Turned out the lone man was a Marine drill sergeant. dad i told you to stop forwarding these emails
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Karrl Tian
Beers for Tears
227
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:20:00 -
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It doesn't require any skill or brainpower to PvE in highsec, why should it be the same for kills?
Enjoy your themepark, carebears, you made it what it is today. |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:28:00 -
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oOReikaOo Michiko wrote:Shalua Rui wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:I wonder how many new players quit eve after they got ganked in noobie ships. Nah... it's acttually like: How many potential players never even start the game because of everything they read/hear about it... ...but there are enough people in this game that are completely fine with that, so. *shrugs* 3 of my friends were like "F THAT your a masochist" .. and i had no rebuttal... cause whips and gags and stuff
Sasha Grey sighting *confirmed* |
Guttripper
State War Academy Caldari State
381
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:30:00 -
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Mythrandier wrote:Speaking of whichGǪ Is it just me, or does Michiko's avatar look a little bit too much like Sasha Grey to be a coincidence? Hard to tell since Reika Michiko still has clothes on...
...oh facial features? Yes, there is a resemblance. |
Jamwara DelCalicoe Ashley
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
35
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:30:00 -
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Johnny Marzetti wrote:Guttripper wrote:Mythrandier wrote:A gang (I.E multiple people working together, it IS an MMO after all) are always going to win. Off-topic, about a decade ago, I remember reading a story how six gang bangers thought that lone man minding his own business was an easy mark. Afterwards, there were three dead, two hospitalized, and one traumatized. Turned out the lone man was a Marine drill sergeant. dad i told you to stop forwarding these emails
Also, Marine Corps Drill Instructor*, not Drill Sergeant [Army] ... and stuff \o/ |
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Baali Tekitsu
B0SSAURA xXPlease Pandemic Citizens Reloaded Alliance.Xx
315
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:37:00 -
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Lol just fit a tanky punisher and laugh at how you have half armor when you come back from afking. |
Xavier Higdon
Wolfbane Hauler Inc
54
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:42:00 -
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Clyde Belvar wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker. Then why aren't people just hiring escorts? Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely? If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them. So what you suggesting is for every freighter pilot to hire escorts?Or train more chars for logi supports?Sounds dumb to me
Actually I like this. We play in a universe akin to the "wild west," so someone riding shotgun makes perfect sense to me. We have transport companies, now we just need armored car companies. +1 for a good idea. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
984
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:45:00 -
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Look, all I'm saying is that I should be able to autopilot billions in cargo all over highsec between my very important elite PvP engagements. I am very inconvenienced by the type of gameplay some of you are engaged in, here. |
Caviar Liberta
Moira. Villore Accords
201
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:46:00 -
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Tears from a vet? Time for a new computer perhaps?
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Alavaria Fera
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
5089
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:46:00 -
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Xavier Higdon wrote:Clyde Belvar wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:Velicitia wrote:Jythier Smith wrote:This part of EVE is actually broken, because of alts.
You kill me, you should die.
But wait.
You're not just one person, you're two people.
The second person swoops in and takes the cargo and salvage, how nice for him, and he is none the worse for wear.
This second person should get a suspect flag so that an escort ship could take him out before he got away with the goods. Right now you can't even do anything about it without getting killed by CONCORD for protecting that cargo. he does (IIRC), unless in fleet or corp with the ganker. Then why aren't people just hiring escorts? Or using their own alts as escorts, more likely? If there's nothing you can do about it that's one thing, it's entirely another thing to simply not get the drop on them. So what you suggesting is for every freighter pilot to hire escorts?Or train more chars for logi supports?Sounds dumb to me Actually I like this. We play in a universe akin to the "wild west," so someone riding shotgun makes perfect sense to me. We have transport companies, now we just need armored car companies. +1 for a good idea. What you really mean by armored car is an ubertanked freighter
concord is the police |
Meilandra Vanderganken
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
0
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:47:00 -
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*giggles* |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:50:00 -
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Tears for Fears?
Tears in Heaven?
~C'mon baby dry your eyes...~ |
Jythier Smith
WATERSHIP HOLDINGS Harmonic Convergence
22
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:51:00 -
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Yeah, ubertanked freighter just means that you won't get shot at.
And move slower.
I'd rather have an escort kill everything for me. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
3047
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:52:00 -
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Doesn't like low sec empty Blames high sec Ganks high sec to bring threats to them Makes low sec more empty
Ganker logic. |
Johnny Marzetti
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
985
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Posted - 2013.11.05 15:54:00 -
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Oh, and just so we're clear, running anoms in the worst truesec ass-end of Fountain is engaging in elite PvP all over null. |
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