Lol this is still going.

As for the shield Proteus. I used that Proteus to attack and kill the above alliance who wouldn't let me dock. For a so called fail fit boat I managed a kill death ratio of 22/1 mostly BC and even a Nightmare, in it so I think it was proven to work, especially considering I was hunting in their hub system and there were up to 20 enemy in system while I was attacking people. Each booster charge provides 1800 pure shields, with an average of 80% resists and 10 charges you can do the math and see its an extremely functional boat.

Additionally it uses no cap for shields, its align time is 6 seconds vs 11 in an armor tank, it's a lot faster than an armor tanked boat and no ability to refit and repair made it a much more useful boat in null than an armor tanked buffer for obvious reasons.

Unfortunately Kallrus is one of those people who believe doctrine is more important than functionality and results and despite the 22/1 k/d he still refuses to believe its viable. Which is sheer stupidity but hey this is EvE forums.

Those Kills pretty much mean nothing, even a pvp fitted t1 cruiser would have been able to kill those ships, since they were PvE fitted Oracles with beams, which will not hit a cruiser on close range anyway. The number of ppl in system means nothing as well since just because 20 ppl are logged in it does not mean that they are really active in the system.

Go and kill 20 pvp fitted t3s in you shield proteus and I ll believe you... killing 20 ships which had no chance in fighting you in that situation does not proof anything.

Oooh look, my pvp e-peen is bigger than your pvp e-peen. Wah, wah, wah.

A win is a win and there's more to fighting than just the fit, which is also important. These types of e-peen flashing arguments are ridiculous. The test of a pvp fight is who's ship is still standing at the end of the fight.

Good job on totally not understanding the point i was making and turning it into something completly different. At no point in my post i was refering to being better than ziona and i also never said that the kills are not valid. All i am saying is that those kills do not proof in any way that Zionas shild proteus fit really is as good as Ziona claims.

And really what does my post have to do with any e-peen flashing, i was merely pointing out some facts.

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Good job on totally not understanding the point i was making and turning it into something completly different.....

That's all you're gonna get.
Also the claim that IZ was allowed docking rights by Tribe is a lie. Unless it was another null alliance you 'solo warred', if that's what lurking afk cloaked in a lolfit t3 with a falcon alt is called. Most guys do that with a bomber or recon, get kills and dock down the road at an npc station. Can't remember the one 5 jumps from PB but i still have stuff there from my own time sneaking around there.
At that time everyone in EvE was cruising over to PB to punch out Tribal Bads, IZ was probably the last person to make it there. Would really love to hear about how docking rights were forcefully obtained based on a few hauler and ratter kills, but probably just get twisted into some fitting argument or definition of efficiency or some other slimy obfuscation.

TL:DR; OP is a joke and a liar. Not a troll

This is not the game that you guys designed, I have been here since the beginning and when things did get to the point that this sort of rubbish was happening, you adjusted Concord or you adjusted DPS or EHP.

No its not the game they designed, if you have really been here since the beginning you would know that previously you could evade CONCORD and completely escape getting your ship blown up from a gank or getting 3-4 successful ganks in an ice belt warping from the top to the bottom to evade CONCORD.

Ganking was a bigger issue then than it is currently.

And really what does my post have to do with any e-peen flashing, i was merely pointing out some facts.

While you can spin it that way to give an unrealistic view of the past, cost and sec loss were costly enough to keep it under control, one suicide pod was instant -5. To get that back was a good month of ratting in null.

Or just do what the rest of us do.. fit some buffer and ignore them .. since their ganking model isnt sustainable against tanky ships.. costs too much

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

anyone that is infinity ziona thinks highsec is okay as is without any reasonable justification deserves to be mocked mercilessly

Coming from the person who has, according to their site, already donated a billion to the gankers (therefore making you a ganker by proxy) your vocal claims of opposition to the New Order are laughable at best.

To the OP: if you don't use autopilot you likely won't ever get ganked (unless you do something stupid like carry PLEX in a destroyer). Anyone that uses autopilot *deserves* to be ganked and mocked mercilessly; it's a stupid mechanic in a game that allows for nonconsensual PvP.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.

So are timers but they're "necessary". That you can show up in a system to kill a pos but you're not able to until 24hrs later in case they're not online is a lot worse than choosing to autopilot a worthless ship with no cargo.

You either have timers, hitpoint spamming, or object pong.

Unless you have a suggestion that is not one of those hiding under some vague sugar mask, and is better then don't bother derailing your own thread imo.

It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null? No timers is already doable, recruit globally, its a global game. At low pop hours theres low pop so even if you have 30% non peak players they can defend against attacks against the other 30% attacking. Its not like you will have the full force off Goons attacking you in the off hours.

While you can spin it that way to give an unrealistic view of the past, cost and sec loss were costly enough to keep it under control, one suicide pod was instant -5.

It goes to the heart of the thread. If its okay to be blapping away at someone in high because they're AFK why is not okay in null?

Unfamiliar with Infinity Ziona, I see.

Yeah, he can be that dumb. We get a new one of these threads every time something comes along and upsets his applecart. Last time it was reinforcement timers, before that it was not being able to dock in someone else's sov.

Hehe, when I first read the opening post I thought:"Hm, he's probably trolling, no veteran EVE player would spew this kind of nonsense but what the hell, let's post!", and now you're telling me he was being serious all this time?

Simple check of my contracts will clearly show I was granted docking rights.

I still think multi-boxing should be put on a leash.

Ziona, your hangers are a structure. If you are happy with me destroying your hanger in jita 4-4 whilst your deadspace loots are on the market and scooping them, then I'm happy that you can headshot a pos whilst I sleep.