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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8588
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:28:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
You on the other hand, hide behind concord, no one can kill you unless you're -5.0, your ship is cheap and disposable, so is your alt, you lose no skill points, there are no bubbles, hotdrops, you're not operating in a system where everyone can and wants to kill you.
We have no concord protection, everyone can kill us, we have ships worth more than a billion, use our mains, are open to any and all traps, work in jita that has 1200+ people that can attack us. You're 4.4 sec status. You're protected by Concord, you use an alt freighter and get it into warp before it becomes flashy red, it then insta-docks at a station. In the rare event someone decides to use a killright on you, you lose a crappy Catalyst worth no more than 10 million.
So because we play smart and kill people playing dumb we should yet again be punished for doing what is already the single most punished activity in the game?
It still stands, we put a freighter at risk as well as a whole fleet of ships. Its not our fault people are choosing to not take any steps to protect themselves. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
801
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:29:00 -
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Jessica Alp wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:Jessica Alp wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
As for proper PvP fits, the fit I used got me 22 kills, including a Dominix, a Nightmare and a bunch of Oracles. As far as I'm concerned, I put 2.5 billion on the line, in null sec and gave the people I was hunting the opportunity to attack me.
You on the other hand, sit in high sec, with a cheap destroyer, and gank unsuspecting victims who cannot attack you until they're in a pod.
In short, you suck. I don't
Oracles, some of them with not even a single tanking module and less than 10k EHP, kinda like a max yield retriever if you ask me, sure takes a lot of skill to kill that in your proteus, yet suicide gankers have no skill, but you are such a pro... again.. the nighmare was PVE fitted with tachyons.. also no challenge for a proteus at all.. you still failed to show me where that dominix kill is supposed to be cause i can find all those other kills just not that one... very strange.... And once again.... just because your proteus can kill 10k EHP oracles it does not make it a good pvp fit... all you do is gank ratters like suicide gankers gank miners, yet you complain about suicide gankers having no skill, while you are unable to do better yourself. What makes it a good fit is it did exactly what I intended it to do. It allowed me to go into an alliances hub system and kill ships without getting ganked. See once again, the difference between you and I is I risked multi billions of isk, I risked skill points, I used my main, I was in null sec where everyone can kill me, where there are bubbles, hotdrops (which is what eventually got me), where there is no concord protection. You on the other hand, hide behind concord, no one can kill you unless you're -5.0, your ship is cheap and disposable, so is your alt, you lose no skill points, there are no bubbles, hotdrops, you're not operating in a system where everyone can and wants to kill you. The funny thing is.. I have not suicide ganked anyone in the past 5 years since i only have done it in times when you could still make a few billions with it easily solo, but hey nvm...... Yet my point stands..... you claim suicide gankers have no skill and only go after easy targets while you do the same claiming to risk a ship being worth a billion ISK, on the other side you say ppl in 0.0 dock up as soon as some1 neutral comes into local (I guess you are very scared of people who are sitting inside a station). The only kills you get are soft targets, same as suicide gankers and with your oh so awesome proteus fitting even have a hard time killing a t1 ship. Whenever you start posting people can only see hypocrisy and statements which contradict each other and even though many different people keep pointing out the flaws in your logic, you completly fail to see those flaws. Yet you point at those people shouting around "you suck!". Which simply leads me to one conclusion... you are a completly lost cause and any time spend to press a single button on my keyboard is nothing but wasted lifetime, so I-¦ll just stop typing and leave you to your wiered alternate reality you are living in. HF :) Something you need to realise, is that some T1 ships can and are supposed to be able to kill T2 and T3 ships. Just because they're T2 and T3 doesn't mean they don't have weaknesses to T1's. And a Dominix is not a soft target, I tackled a couple of them while I was out there, only killed one and the others neuted me dry and I barely survived. The thing is you don't know which Domi has neuts, which is PvP pretending to be PvE and that goes for all ships you attack in null.
When ganking, you know what you're ganking. You know you're going to win. There is no risk and no skill. |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
801
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:34:00 -
[693] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
You on the other hand, hide behind concord, no one can kill you unless you're -5.0, your ship is cheap and disposable, so is your alt, you lose no skill points, there are no bubbles, hotdrops, you're not operating in a system where everyone can and wants to kill you.
We have no concord protection, everyone can kill us, we have ships worth more than a billion, use our mains, are open to any and all traps, work in jita that has 1200+ people that can attack us. You're 4.4 sec status. You're protected by Concord, you use an alt freighter and get it into warp before it becomes flashy red, it then insta-docks at a station. In the rare event someone decides to use a killright on you, you lose a crappy Catalyst worth no more than 10 million. So because we play smart and kill people playing dumb we should yet again be punished for doing what is already the single most punished activity in the game? It still stands, we put a freighter at risk as well as a whole fleet of ships. Its not our fault people are choosing to not take any steps to protect themselves. I think you misunderstand me. I don't say what you're doing is wrong. All I'm saying is its too easy, should come with some risk and no, looting a can and warping a freighter before its attack-able to a safe and then to a station bookmark is not risk.
Nothing wrong with doing that, I would do the same, obviously it'd be stupid to loot and sit there till you get killed.
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Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
696
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:39:00 -
[694] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:I think you misunderstand me. I don't say what you're doing is wrong. All I'm saying is its too easy, should come with some risk and no, looting a can and warping a freighter before its attack-able to a safe and then to a station bookmark is not risk.
Nothing wrong with doing that, I would do the same, obviously it'd be stupid to loot and sit there till you get killed.
Why shouldn't it be easy? Should new players be barred from this activity? Should player ingenuity and organization be penalized? |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
8588
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Posted - 2013.11.16 21:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote: I think you misunderstand me. I don't say what you're doing is wrong. All I'm saying is its too easy, should come with some risk and no, looting a can and warping a freighter before its attack-able to a safe and then to a station bookmark is not risk.
Nothing wrong with doing that, I would do the same, obviously it'd be stupid to loot and sit there till you get killed.
So when did a freighter being open to attack to everyone stop being a risk?
Again, if people tried to stop us then we would lose it no matter how well we fly it at some point. Its not our fault nobody even tries.
We are doing exactly the same thing as you are doing only we have greater risks and costs due to the added high sec mechanics. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
316
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Posted - 2013.11.16 23:10:00 -
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*spills popcorn all over*
Brick tanked oracle! Null is safe, i stroll there when i want! Null is dangerous, only awesome people stroll there when they want!
Yeah! Ziona! Keep arguing about pvp with baltec! It's like watching a horse fight with a wedding cake, in the rain! Oh man. At this point anyone bothering to challenge you on your negativity is your friend in eve, but the twisting and sliding is some kinda terrible habit.
Confirming you went to the softest targets in null, in a T3 and a falcon, then lied about how awesome you were, then whined about losing an afk noobship. The point has been passed where credibility scrolls into negative digits, it is now in some weird alien scribble.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Malcolm Shinhwa
Bad Touches
695
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Posted - 2013.11.17 01:27:00 -
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Thread too long at 35 pages to catch up now. Have we decided how to get rid of the idiots in hisec yet? I just started ganking again on my alt and took out a hulk in a .6. I'm doing my best to get rid of the idiots who AFK untanked mining ships. We probably don't need a CCP solution to this problem. Just more catalysts. Hey CCP, please slush my fund like you did for SOMER Blink. |

Decian Cor
Disconnected. Moon Warriors
41
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Posted - 2013.11.17 03:21:00 -
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5hfYJsQAhl0 "There is no good and evil. There is only power, and those too weak to seek it."
Unfiltered for the masses. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1138
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Posted - 2013.11.17 04:25:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:You have a bad Proteus fit. You have ZERO solo kills. Your opinion is not relevant at all. Jessica Alp wrote:Also saying that any proteus engaging a stabber orbitting at that range will, die because he can not kill him fast enough and will die to incoming help is quite simply not true.
If you struggle to kill a stabber in the proteus with your fitting it is because you fit your proteus to gank ratters and not to fight properly, which brings me back to:
You are in no way better than the suicide gankers in high sec you like to talk about from your high horse position. I have tried to be polite with you but you're one of those people that refuse to be wrong. In this instance, something which you most definitely are. You're making yourself look foolish.
So you're telling me I'm bad because I have friends :smug:? The only thing bad in this thread is you, your position was destroyed and these last thirty or so pages are of you trying to over heat as many forum modules as you can in hopes you can survive the aggression timer and dock up in your local mental institution. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Vigilant
Vigilant's Vigilante's
10
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Posted - 2013.11.17 05:03:00 -
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Avoid 0.5's that are strung together (i.e. Hek to Ours)
Avoid put tons of expensive sh*t in your cargo of your cheap a*s non tanky ship
TANK your ship
Avoid JITA if at all possible....You can sell your goods other places.
USE the MAP dammit! It tells you everything
And last but not least, use a SCOUT if you are scared of a gank!
Last time I was ganked was hauling t2 bpc's around, before you could tell if it was BPO or a BPC. Oh, and you had warp to 15, no warp to zero yet
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
801
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:02:00 -
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La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:You have a bad Proteus fit. You have ZERO solo kills. Your opinion is not relevant at all. Jessica Alp wrote:Also saying that any proteus engaging a stabber orbitting at that range will, die because he can not kill him fast enough and will die to incoming help is quite simply not true.
If you struggle to kill a stabber in the proteus with your fitting it is because you fit your proteus to gank ratters and not to fight properly, which brings me back to:
You are in no way better than the suicide gankers in high sec you like to talk about from your high horse position. I have tried to be polite with you but you're one of those people that refuse to be wrong. In this instance, something which you most definitely are. You're making yourself look foolish. So you're telling me I'm bad because I have friends :smug:? The only thing bad in this thread is you, your position was destroyed and these last thirty or so pages are of you trying to over heat as many forum modules as you can in hopes you can survive the aggression timer and dock up in your local mental institution. No Im telling you you don't have the experience in whats required in a ship to solo in null. Therefore your comment is irrelevant. You don't use a slow 150k EHP Proteus to solo. Why? Because if your still shooting after 100k is gone you fecked up and your selecting a celestial to spam warp. |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:11:00 -
[702] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: No Im telling you you don't have the experience in whats required in a ship to solo in null. Therefore your comment is irrelevant. You don't use a slow 150k EHP Proteus to solo. Why? Because if your still shooting after 100k is gone you fecked up and your selecting a celestial to spam warp.
Perhaps those of us that can make friends have no need to solo? Again you're mad because I have friends and you don't :smug:. Just a hint here you might get friends if you acted even slightly like a normal human being when your positions are destroyed instead of acting like a petulant child. This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Uma D
Uma D Ltd.
13
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Posted - 2013.11.17 17:28:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
No Im telling you you don't have the experience in whats required in a ship to solo in null. Therefore your comment is irrelevant. You don't use a slow 150k EHP Proteus to solo. Why? Because if your still shooting after 100k is gone you fecked up and your selecting a celestial to spam warp.
With the targets you are going after you could even go with nothing but guns and a single point fitted and would still get the kills. And since you obviously think that a proteus can not win against a stabber solo, i doubt that you know what it takes to solo anything but PvE ships in 0.0...
but keep going It is allways very entertaining to read your post while I am eating :). |

Cage Man
291
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:00:00 -
[704] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:La Nariz wrote:You have a bad Proteus fit. You have ZERO solo kills. Your opinion is not relevant at all. Jessica Alp wrote:Also saying that any proteus engaging a stabber orbitting at that range will, die because he can not kill him fast enough and will die to incoming help is quite simply not true.
If you struggle to kill a stabber in the proteus with your fitting it is because you fit your proteus to gank ratters and not to fight properly, which brings me back to:
You are in no way better than the suicide gankers in high sec you like to talk about from your high horse position. I have tried to be polite with you but you're one of those people that refuse to be wrong. In this instance, something which you most definitely are. You're making yourself look foolish. So you're telling me I'm bad because I have friends :smug:? The only thing bad in this thread is you, your position was destroyed and these last thirty or so pages are of you trying to over heat as many forum modules as you can in hopes you can survive the aggression timer and dock up in your local mental institution. No Im telling you you don't have the experience in whats required in a ship to solo in null. Therefore your comment is irrelevant. You don't use a slow 150k EHP Proteus to solo. Why? Because if your still shooting after 100k is gone you fecked up and your selecting a celestial to spam warp.
Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  PS, your essential ganking carebears in null by jumping PVE fitted ships..
The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back?? |

Lady Areola Fappington
New Order Logistics CODE.
842
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:11:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  PS, your essential ganking carebears in null by jumping PVE fitted ships..
I wouldn't go so far as calling it ganking. See, us highsec gankers, we have to figure EHP, do DPS calcs vs. concord response times, stealthily scan fits without being noticed, provide tight warp-ins, operate in-fleet/act as small gang FC....
I'd say what IZ engages in is more along the lines of PVE ratting. Warp to location, lock target, press F1. Maybe warp away if things do go according to the mission descrip...I mean, if you get hot dropped and/or overwhelmed. The risk of having your day ruined by other people is the cornerstone with which EVE was built and we want to keep that (infact, this is much more representative of the consensus opinion within CCP). |

Xinivrae
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
707
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Posted - 2013.11.17 19:22:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  There is none. Any point they might have had was definitively shot down 20 pages ago. Now it's just a person cherry picking and ignoring posts while screaming "lalala" as loud as they can, trying to drown them out. Of course we continue to egg them on, because "lol, GD" |

Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
801
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:31:00 -
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Cage Man wrote:Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  PS, your essential ganking carebears in null by jumping PVE fitted ships.. The purpose of the thread has been served. CCP has no doubt noticed this threadnaught and you've helped contribute by adding your nonsense.
As for leet pvp, never claimed to be that, the state that solo is in its really not possible to be "leet". As for killing only carebears I killed whatever I believed I had a good chance of beating. You don't attack something that is likely to kill you - given that most of you gang dweebs need to bring 10 times the number required that rules out pvp fit ships since you never find those alone.
You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
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Riot Girl
Krypteia Operations CODE.
1941
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:33:00 -
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Why are you afraid? It's only a game. Oh god. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4549
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:37:00 -
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OP is so full of himself.
Now even believes CCP cares about his pseudo-threadnaught, which isn't even one. It took 12 days to reach 36 posts.
That's not a threadnaught.
Why can't somebody remove all the self-righteous, hypocritical ******** from the game and let the OP be the first one that has to leave ? |

Domanique Altares
Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance
1952
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:38:00 -
[710] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote: You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
Confirming that being antisocial makes you a hard ass of epic proportion. Point Blank Alliance [DAKKA] is currently recruiting corporations to join in our lowsec piracy operations. For more information, please add the in game channel 'weflyrifters' or speak to a DAKKA member today. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4549
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:40:00 -
[711] - Quote
Domanique Altares wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote: You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
Confirming that being antisocial makes you a hard ass of epic proportion. Well it's logical that the OP believes that, considering that he sure as hell has no friends to speak of. |

Cage Man
291
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Posted - 2013.11.17 20:41:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:Cage Man wrote:Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  PS, your essential ganking carebears in null by jumping PVE fitted ships.. The purpose of the thread has been served. CCP has no doubt noticed this threadnaught and you've helped contribute by adding your nonsense. As for leet pvp, never claimed to be that, the state that solo is in its really not possible to be "leet". As for killing only carebears I killed whatever I believed I had a good chance of beating. You don't attack something that is likely to kill you - given that most of you gang dweebs need to bring 10 times the number required that rules out pvp fit ships since you never find those alone. You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
Glad I could contribute my nonsense to yours.. AFK cloaky camping systems is as big a pain in the butt as HS ganking.. its sorta like the pot calling the kettle black.. If you partake in one... you really shouldn't complain about the other  The thick plottens... CCP, When can my crane get its black paint job back?? |

Uma D
Uma D Ltd.
19
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Posted - 2013.11.17 21:13:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
The purpose of the thread has been served. CCP has no doubt noticed this threadnaught and you've helped contribute by adding your nonsense.
Hahahahahahahahaahahahahaahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahah...... (breathing in) hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahaha....... (breathing in) ... (5 minutes later) ... After a good long laugh all i can say to you is:
If anything you have only reached that neither ccp nore anyone else in eve will ever take anything you say seriously again. Seriously.. just because you lost a rookie ship, make a thread about it, where practically nobody supports your opinion ccp will go and nerf suicide ganking..... I am sure there are also pink elefants in your room......
Oh boy, what world are you just living in...... |

La Nariz
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1139
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Posted - 2013.11.17 21:21:00 -
[714] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:Cage Man wrote:Soo what you saying is you a 0.0 super god leet PVP but can't jump a gate in HS without whining ??? Just confused about the purpose of this thread is all  PS, your essential ganking carebears in null by jumping PVE fitted ships.. The purpose of the thread has been served. CCP has no doubt noticed this threadnaught and you've helped contribute by adding your nonsense. As for leet pvp, never claimed to be that, the state that solo is in its really not possible to be "leet". As for killing only carebears I killed whatever I believed I had a good chance of beating. You don't attack something that is likely to kill you - given that most of you gang dweebs need to bring 10 times the number required that rules out pvp fit ships since you never find those alone. You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
So you're telling me in a Massive Multiplayer Online Game, if I make friends I am a ~dishonourable coward~? This post was loving crafted by a member of the Official GoonWaffe recruitment team. |

Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
321
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Posted - 2013.11.18 01:37:00 -
[715] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:... You guys call it "having friends" I call it being afraid.
*Spits popcorn
MORE!
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |

Solstice Project
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
4557
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Posted - 2013.11.18 01:40:00 -
[716] - Quote
Uma D wrote:Oh boy, what world are you just living in...... This.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1528
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Posted - 2013.11.18 01:50:00 -
[717] - Quote
Solstice Project wrote:Uma D wrote:Oh boy, what world are you just living in...... This.
For the timing of that link, have a like. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |

Zheng'Yi Sao
DIRTY MONEY INC. The Mountain Empire
30
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:13:00 -
[718] - Quote
I had fun, thank you for the entertainment.
Unsubscribing now.
Peace and Gallentian Blaster Love
 "It's funny the things you people think are mandatory for us, as if we don't do what we do because it's a hilarious good time in a space video game." - Johnny Marzetti
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Academy The ROC
1535
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Posted - 2013.11.18 21:41:00 -
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Zheng'Yi Sao wrote:I had fun, thank you for the entertainment. Unsubscribing now. Peace and Gallentian Blaster Love 
Perchance, render unto Caesar? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á |
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