Don't you use TEs?

Zionas shield Proteus fit has 2 TEs ;)

And with that even with you silly lame as covert rig you get to 7.5km optimal and 12km falloff (without implants) which is enough to hit a stabber at any range it could tackle you and tracking is not an issue with medium neutrons as well on that range.... if the stabber gets closer you easily can apply your faction scram on it, so again tracking will not be an issue....

Please Ziona... more twisted "facts"....

You realise that he can point me to around 30k OH. He can overheat his point for over 2 minutes. Even if he's stupid and doesn't OH when I hit him for a measly 20 to 50 dps, all to half of which is going to be negated by his shield recharge, it would take me about 5 minutes to 10 minutes to kill him lol.

Lets be realistic, any Proteus trying to kill a Stabber out to 30k with med guns in an alliance hub system is a dead Proteus.

You have a bad Proteus fit.

Also saying that any proteus engaging a stabber orbitting at that range will, die because he can not kill him fast enough and will die to incoming help is quite simply not true.

If you struggle to kill a stabber in the proteus with your fitting it is because you fit your proteus to gank ratters and not to fight properly, which brings me back to:

You are in no way better than the suicide gankers in high sec you like to talk about from your high horse position.

You have ZERO solo kills. Your opinion is not relevant at all.



I have tried to be polite with you but you're one of those people that refuse to be wrong. In this instance, something which you most definitely are. You're making yourself look foolish.

Since we all know your twisted logic i guess wrong really means right. And you thinking i am the one who looks foolish is yet another example of your inability to think like a sane person.

edit: if there is anything foolish to see from my side here it is that i actually even bother discussing with you, since over and over again you prove that it is more reasonable to talk to a wall.

6km = optimal. 12km = falloff. 6km + 12km = 18km = 50% damage. 18km +12km = 30km = 0% damage. Stabber can point me to 30km. Stabber wins.

How can you not understand in that scenario that attempting to kill a Stabber with a Proteus in an alliance hub is not going to work very well? :) You think they're not going to come help him? Not that he needs help ffs

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6km = optimal. 12km = falloff. 6km + 12km = 18km = 50% damage. 18km +12km = 30km = 0% damage. Stabber can point me to 30km. Stabber wins.

How can you not understand in that scenario that attempting to kill a Stabber with a Proteus in an alliance hub is not going to work very well? :) You think they're not going to come help him? Not that he needs help ffs

At that range all you need to do is a quick burn away from said orbiting stabber and you get out of range and warp.

Realistically, the Stabber can sit at 20k and suck up the 20 dps till his friends arrive since they're in system.

Realistically, the Stabber can sit at 20k and suck up the 20 dps till his friends arrive since they're in system.

You said 30. This is now the second time you have changed this engagement.

at 20km even with your ****** fitting you are looking at 200dps not 20... at 30km he can not point you...

20k, 30k it doesn't matter. He can tank my dps at 20k till his friends arrive. He can OH to 30k and take no damage till his friends arrive.

What's the difference? Its stupid to engage a Stabber in a blaster Proteus. Only reason I managed to kill him was because I extended grid 1k and dropped a bubble and likely he got a bit confused long enough for me to web and scram him. Otherwise I was dead.

Which takes me back to the main point of this conversation. When you're in a null sec system, solo, with billions in ship, implants and potential skill loss, there is absolutely zero comparison to sitting in a cheap ass Cat in high sec and ganking ships that can't attack you until you fire, or being -10 and warping in and ganking them.

The argument is completely spastic.

20k, 30k it doesn't matter. He can tank my dps at 20k till his friends arrive. He can OH to 30k and take no damage till his friends arrive.

What's the difference? Its stupid to engage a Stabber in a blaster Proteus. Only reason I managed to kill him was because I extended grid 1k and dropped a bubble and likely he got a bit confused long enough for me to web and scram him. Otherwise I was dead.

Which takes me back to the main point of this conversation. When you're in a null sec system, solo, with billions in ship, implants and potential skill loss, there is absolutely zero comparison to sitting in a cheap ass Cat in high sec and ganking ships that can't attack you until you fire, or being -10 and warping in and ganking them.

The argument is completely spastic.

And to think you were celebrating the end of freighter ganking when crimewatch was brought about as nobody could possibly be willing to put their freighter at risk under the new system.

op was afk mining in a noob tank little barge
op was ganked and lost his noob barge
???
better go to the forums and complain about the game mechanics

No, no its not his fault, he only got ganked because of game mechanics, not his fault guys.. dont tear his heart apart saying it was his fault cause clearly its the game mechanics that are bad and wrong.

20k and 30k makes a huge difference... and if he decides the damage is too much at 20k and goes to 30 you simply just can warp off..

And again.. with a proper fitting and not a fitting that only surves the purpose to kill PvE ships (just like suiciding ships) you have a) by far more range b) by far more dps c) drones on your proteus. If you really have such a hard time killing a stabber in your blaster proteus it just proves how terrible your fitting is, for anyhitng other than sneaking up on ratters.

As for proper PvP fits, the fit I used got me 22 kills, including a Dominix, a Nightmare and a bunch of Oracles. As far as I'm concerned, I put 2.5 billion on the line, in null sec and gave the people I was hunting the opportunity to attack me.

You on the other hand, sit in high sec, with a cheap destroyer, and gank unsuspecting victims who cannot attack you until they're in a pod.

In short, you suck. I don't

I took time off, wasn't around when crimewatch was brought about...

Oracles, some of them with not even a single tanking module and less than 10k EHP, kinda like a max yield retriever if you ask me, sure takes a lot of skill to kill that in your proteus, yet suicide gankers have no skill, but you are such a pro...

again.. the nighmare was PVE fitted with tachyons.. also no challenge for a proteus at all.. you still failed to show me where that dominix kill is supposed to be cause i can find all those other kills just not that one... very strange....

And once again.... just because your proteus can kill 10k EHP oracles it does not make it a good pvp fit... all you do is gank ratters like suicide gankers gank miners, yet you complain about suicide gankers having no skill, while you are unable to do better yourself.

You on the other hand, hide behind concord, no one can kill you unless you're -5.0, your ship is cheap and disposable, so is your alt, you lose no skill points, there are no bubbles, hotdrops, you're not operating in a system where everyone can and wants to kill you.

We have no concord protection, everyone can kill us, we have ships worth more than a billion, use our mains, are open to any and all traps, work in jita that has 1200+ people that can attack us.

What makes it a good fit is it did exactly what I intended it to do. It allowed me to go into an alliances hub system and kill ships without getting ganked.

See once again, the difference between you and I is I risked multi billions of isk, I risked skill points, I used my main, I was in null sec where everyone can kill me, where there are bubbles, hotdrops (which is what eventually got me), where there is no concord protection.

You on the other hand, hide behind concord, no one can kill you unless you're -5.0, your ship is cheap and disposable, so is your alt, you lose no skill points, there are no bubbles, hotdrops, you're not operating in a system where everyone can and wants to kill you.