Is this pre-reduction or post-reduction? i.e. if I kill a rat worth 1m isk now, but 800k with the ESS, for the LP reward formula is it worth 1m or 800k?

The ESS holds 15.7% of the ISK you would have made, plus an additional 5.2% to 10.5%

Going by the adjusted figures for what you would have made without one. (with the 95% adjustment to the base figure)

Is this pre-reduction or post-reduction? i.e. if I kill a rat worth 1m isk now, but 800k with the ESS, for the LP reward formula is it worth 1m or 800k?

It uses the total amount, so its based on 1m

So are we just going to ignore people who realize what a disaster this is going to be for LP valuations?

So are we just going to ignore people who realize what a disaster this is going to be for LP valuations?

1) The ISK adjustments are the same as before. Without an ESS you'll get 95% value, with an ESS you get 80% directly and 20-25% are accessible through the ESS.

4) Interacting with the ESS immediately gives you the option to either Share or Take all. Once either is selected a timer starts (length determined by choice), when timer finishes the system pool is emptied.

Yeah, you're kinda fighting against windmills here.

First of all: donGÇÿt you see that itGÇÿs all the more seducing to use this module, the more nullsec alliances are trying to boycott it? Because if nobody BUT ME uses it, the better for me! Cause IGÇÿm earning additional LP now, and you donGÇÿt.

Second, the LP payout itself seems to be quite okay. Assuming a nullbear now earns 30m ISK for each hour ratting, after the change the following will happen:

NO ESS DEPLOYED
Direkt ISK income nerfed to 28.5m ISK.
No additional benefits or frills.

ESS DEPLOYED
Direkt ISK income lowered to 24m ISK.
Additional 3,600 to 4,800 LP directly to LP wallet.
6-7.5m ISK go into ESS.

Given current navy LP values (c. 800 ISK/LP) this sums up to c. 32.9m to 35.3m, depending on how long the ESS has been deployed and not cashed out. This is a potential buff of 9.7 to 17.7 percent to nullbear income.

But most important of all: this ratter will potentially earn 25% more than a ratter who doesn't deploy an ESS. ThatGÇÿs kind of a motivation :D

1) The ISK adjustments are the same as before. Without an ESS you'll get 95% value, with an ESS you get 80% directly and 20-25% are accessible through the ESS.

And when are you going to significantly increase the number of anomalies per system which desperately needs to be done?

And when are you going to significantly increase the number of anomalies per system which desperately needs to be done?

Biggest flaw is how this empowers hot-droppers. With an ESS, you no longer have to jump into a system and race to catch them in their sites- just sit on the ESS and threaten to take all their cash.

If they do nothing, you milk them dry.

If they try to fight you, you bridge in an overwhelming blops force and nuke them.

Cyno + ESS is not a good combination- I'll reiterate what I said pages ago, it needs a cyno-jamming field (and to be balanced against the existing cyno jammer deployable so it doesn't compete)

if the ESS disabled ALL cynos (even covert) around it for 250km, you'd never hear me complain about the thing ever. But yea, as it stands now, it's just cyno/hotdrop bait. As has been said, it's just going to mean "hey, someone put a disposable alt on this sucker so we can rat without getting out isk stolen".

Biggest flaw is how this empowers hot-droppers. With an ESS, you no longer have to jump into a system and race to catch them in their sites- just sit on the ESS and threaten to take all their cash.

If they do nothing, you milk them dry.

If they try to fight you, you bridge in an overwhelming blops force and nuke them.

Cyno + ESS is not a good combination- I'll reiterate what I said pages ago, it needs a cyno-jamming field (and to be balanced against the existing cyno jammer deployable so it doesn't compete)

There has to be a more elegant solution for this. I'm not sure where it is but there has to be. The concept (meaning the device itself and how it runs is fine, anchor, creates a warp bubble, prizes inside), how it calculates its pot of gold is bizarre.

Is it the bounty and LP thats the problem? Or the loot drops/salvage?

What I mean is if you are going to create a device like this, make it more extreme. If this is meant for null, you might as well just go all out and force people to deal with it.

Right now its a deadspace early detection system, (incase you wound up missing the combat scanner probes), or a temporary griefing tool (which is fine but it should probably grief more).

Honestly, this is probably two different devices.

One being a Detection system, the second deployable a system isk/lp sucking system. Its odd being both but hell we can try it for now.

if the ESS disabled ALL cynos (even covert) around it for 250km, you'd never hear me complain about the thing ever. But yea, as it stands now, it's just cyno/hotdrop bait. As has been said, it's just going to mean "hey, someone put a disposable alt on this sucker so we can rat without getting out isk stolen".