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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:47:00 -
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Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
If you feel the person is irrational because he should not be placing value on his in-game suffering because it's not suppose to be taken as "real", well that's a valid argument. There's no issue with your argument.
The issue presents itself when there are people who take joy at other's "problems".
It could be that person who is raging call you a "******" for blowing up his space pixels has a mental illness. You, perceiving him to have an ailment because he is attaching an irrational attachment to his space pixels is completely logical.
So there you are, having performed an action and notice that the person you've performed your perfectly valid action against is handling it improperly. But now you laugh at him. You begin to take joy at your observation of someone's instability.
That's what makes you a bad person, for taking joy at the suffering of others. Is his suffering irrational, yes. Is your joy sadistic? Yes.
It's the same as laughing at a person who is mentally ********. You're the type of person who makes fun at other's plight. This is what makes you the bad person. Not the performing the action, but your reaction at their sickness.
hahaha you have cancer! Hahahaha you have aids! Hahahahah you have depresssion! Hahaha you attribute meaning to things that are meaningless!
This game is full of bad people. |
Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14096
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:51:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid?
Never?
Really?
1 Kings 12:11
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
149
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Posted - 2014.03.14 20:57:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid? Never? Really?
Heard it here folks, slipping on ice is the exact same as having cancer |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4493
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:07:00 -
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You talk too much. Change doesn't happen by talk. I learned that. Others did too. We're growing, we're training, and we're not stopping. We don't like the attitude of some. You wanna change it like we do? Grab your guns and stop feeding the trolls.
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Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
51
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:32:00 -
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I'll happily chime in.
As the CEO of a PVP corp of the newest SOV holding entity, BRAVE Collective, of HERO Coalition - I love this post.
I could not agree with your sentiments harder. I love your post so hard that I want to take it out to dinner, tell it sweet nothings, get married by eloping to the Caribbean, settle down, and make little baby posts that can run around spreading their wee little message of culture (and odd imagery).
Joking aside, THIS is the only thing that I do worry about in EVE. BRAVE, in general, was created with the idea that 1) newbies can have fun, and should have fun, from day one and 2) you don't have to be an **shole to have fun. And let me tell you, an Alliance running around espousing those sentiments has drawn in some hateful, spiteful, ugly people who try to camp us daily. They purposefully will camp pipes in order to ONLY gank the newbies coming to join us, and won't fight an older player. Local is filled with sperging hatred several times a day, TMC comments are downright mean, and Reddit .... well, nuff said, "Reddit". And dear-god-in-heaven, when we took those 2 Sov systems, it seems like we opened a portal to a new level of hate against us. Local chat makes my eyes bleed now.
Funny thing though - Brave Newbies has become Brave Collective. Then it became part of HERO. It now has Sov. In spite of all the 'bittervets' constantly talking down to us, or calling our members names, or making fun of us, we've grown to become one of the largest entities in the game. How?
Because we celebrate our members. We joke about ourselves, but never about our enemies or each other. We cheer for our enemy's victory in battle as much as we applaud our own. And if a newer member does something over the line? We pull them aside and tell them "No. That is not our way, friend." We are trying our very best to change this culture (TEST - to your credit - you are using racial slurs less now, so thank you :P). An entirely crazy notion - we play this game to have fun, and want the same for you.
I didn't just fall in line with the mantra when I joined, obviously. I've always been this way myself. I've got more than one post on my blog about this subject - or ones near enough the subject - including one post that garnered tens of thousands of views that was about the fact that we the good folk in EVE far outweigh the little sh**stains of evil.
We chose Brave over other, established null entities that wanted us to fold in with them because Brave's philosophy was in line with our own. Frankly, I know we're making a difference out there. I see it. Let's hope it continues.
7o thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks Steam: CoffeeRocks |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
52
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:42:00 -
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Malcanis wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid? Never? Really?
Stop trolling, Malcanis. We get it - you hate everyone here.
We're talking about fundamental human nature, and the culture of our little society. The same nature that can make us laugh at a person for being tongue tied (which isn't being sadistic, btw, it's a simple psychological knee-jerk acknowledgement that implies 'I know your embarrassment because I too have been tongue-tied, so don't be embarrassed') is not the same as gaining contentment from the malicious harm done to others.
But, it is the same human nature that makes us want to improve this community. It's easier to "go along get along", I get that, and it's how this undesirable culture has been, well, cultivated.
I for one have never put up with it. I hope that others will join us and do the same, really. thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks Steam: CoffeeRocks |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4493
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Posted - 2014.03.14 21:43:00 -
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As I said before, and as evidenced by the actions of the above poster, and other groups promoting more positive outlooks for Eve; We are growing, and we wont be stopped.
The times are changing.
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Pandora Barzane
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
88
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Pandora Barzane wrote:citation needed. CSM8 August minutes, Session 5.
those werent actual figures, more best guesses from ccp. go on, show me actual measure data of people who quit eve because they playing solo.
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Gogela
Freeport Exploration Loosely Affiliated Pirates Alliance
3074
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:04:00 -
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There's a lot of good too... I typically fully reimburse noobs when I happen to blow them up. I know a lot of other people that do too. In my experience, this is the rule for vets more than the exception. Are there total d-bags in game? You bet. For the most part I am one... but when it comes to newer players you might be surprised how accommodating most vets are. Just don't undock in some officer fit mission ship and call yourself a noob. If whatever you fly is over a billion ISK and you're new to the game I'll kill you on principal.
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Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17091
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:06:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Malcanis wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid? Never? Really? Heard it here folks, slipping on ice is the exact same as having cancer That's not what he said, it's not even within the same universe as what he asked.
You're trivialising cancer by comparing it to slipping on ice; cancer is a long term battle against a foul and underhanded disease that normally ends in an early death. Slipping on ice and ending up on your arse is a miniscule setback that doesn't normally end in a premature death. You really need to get a grip on the scale of misery involved.
You seem to have the same problem distinguishing between cancer and falling over as you do between what happen in game and real life.
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
150
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:13:00 -
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It's evolution. Our species, like every other is constantly evolving. Our current version of human is much more capable in terms of intelligence compared to our ancestors hundreds of thousands of years ago.
Considering that humanity is constantly evolving, it's safe to say that right now there are some people who are more "evolved" than others.
Sadly, as displayed with the narrow minded hate in this and other threads, it's obvious which people are still a few laps behind in the human evolution race. It's not their fault, they're just genetically inferior compared to those of us who have been lucky enough to snag these genetics as our own.
I'm sorry to see that many of you are a few steps below on this infinitely long staircase of human evolution. You being egocentric due to the limitations imposed by your poor drawing in the lottery of advancement, well naturally I understand your insistence on thinking that the mere act of being human props you up to the same level as those you feel you "should" be as good as, because of your default entry into humanity. (this would be a creationist-centric belief)
But don't worry, we're here for you. That's what's great about us. Even though we've been distanced through chance from you, we're willing to reach down and lift you up to us so we can all continue forward together. Even if we have to do so while you're kicking and screaming. We understand you don't know any better.
Enjoy the ride |
Coffee Rocks
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
60
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:18:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Malcanis wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid? Never? Really? Heard it here folks, slipping on ice is the exact same as having cancer That's not what he said, it's not even within the same universe as what he asked. You're trivialising cancer by comparing it to slipping on ice; cancer is a long term battle against a foul and underhanded disease that normally ends in an early death. Slipping on ice and ending up on your arse is a miniscule setback that doesn't normally end in a premature death. You really need to get a grip on the scale of misery involved. You seem to have the same problem distinguishing between cancer and falling over as you do between what happens in game and real life.
Troll harder. thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com Twitter: @thecoffeerocks |-áSteam: CoffeeRocks | thecoffeerocks.blogspot.com https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&find=unread&t=327221 |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
150
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:22:00 -
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Jonah Gravenstein wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Malcanis wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Back to OP's position:
Anyone who professes joy at someone else's misery is a bad person.
Have you never laughed at someone taking a pratfall or saying something stupid? Never? Really? Heard it here folks, slipping on ice is the exact same as having cancer That's not what he said, it's not even within the same universe as what he asked. You're trivialising cancer by comparing it to slipping on ice; cancer is a long term battle against a foul and underhanded disease that normally ends in an early death. Slipping on ice and ending up on your arse is a miniscule setback that doesn't normally end in a premature death. You really need to get a grip on the scale of misery involved. You seem to have the same problem distinguishing between cancer and falling over as you do between what happens in game and real life.
O my bad. See, i made a post and then he quoted 5% of it, completely ignoring the 95% where I connected it to the 5% he chose to focus on.
Because of that, I just assumed we were playing the "make stupid connections" game and I was playing along with him. If he feels like addressing everything else I spoke of, well then I'll assume he wishes to have an actual conversation and not play "stupid" games. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17092
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:32:00 -
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Coffee Rocks wrote:Troll harder. Not trolling, please try harder.
BTW congrats on the whole HERO coalition thing, expecting to see some glorious stuff from you guys in the near future.
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4496
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:39:00 -
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Faux logic to justify ******* actions to get a rouse from someone.
Sounds trolling to me. vOv
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1810
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:43:00 -
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A lot of the idiocy in game stems from players inability to get kills easily. Unfortunately EVE's fleet fights and its advertising campaigns show a vision of hundreds to thousands of targets, apparently in a never ending stream of brave suicidal supply.
The reality is anything but - the aspiring w.. ganker logs in hoping to be an evil pirate but then finds himself confronted by high sec and gets repeatedly ganked by concord...
So he moves to low, and finds himself sitting at a low sec gate watching cloaky haulers zipping by unable to be se... molested.
So now we have a loser, who would be better off in an FPS, hanging around in EvE unable to get kills because of a lack of patience, logic, intelligence.
Those losers gravitate towards each other of course and then we have blobs of losers who lack the ability to get kills. . .
So they exploit as far as they can around the grey area's of the game..
Disclaimer: I'm using exploit in this case correctly, not the EvE version which usually means CCP doesn't approve, but may not necessarily be an exploit in regards of the actual definition of the word. Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17092
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Posted - 2014.03.14 22:50:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Faux logic to justify ******* actions to get a rouse from someone.
Sounds trolling to me. vOv Well you would be the expert
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Mara Pahrdi
The Order of Anoyia
663
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:01:00 -
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Marvin Shields wrote:Making my first post on the forums ever, so bear with me here...
Sure no problem.
Though I'm going to start with a question: Why are you insulting all players in this game in your thread title?
Sure, there are some folks making a fool of themselves, like The Mittani. There certainly are some players with a somewhat weird behaviour. But overall, my experience has been a completely different and rather poditive one.
Ofc I have been ganked once. And ofc I've been ransomed. I even paid the ransom, having made sure before getting ransomed, that the guys doing this to me were likely going to honor it.
If you get ransomed without being prepared and do silly stuff as a victim, honestly, that's your problem. Just tell them to get done with it. If they don't pod you and still hold you for a prolonged time just because they can, now that would be something for a petition in harassment.
I've flown for a short time with some dudes that were part of events you mentioned. Great ingame experience in every respect, nice people to talk to on ts, folks that I'd have liked to meet in RL anytime. Although we probably would have been very different human beings that don't have much in common but EVE. And yet, who knows...
My experience is, that EVE has a good, mostly friendly and helpful community.
Sure, there are some assholes that are allowed to do their things. But you do not have to play their game.
Look at it like this: Blizzard created the dungeon and raid finder and eliminated most other game mechanics previously available to find a decent group, just to give those assholes a chance to play the game. The amount of complaints on the WoW forums shows, you cannot really evade them. Remove insurance. |
Mandarine
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
24
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Posted - 2014.03.14 23:40:00 -
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It only took six years! |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1002
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:11:00 -
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I have removed some rule breaking posts and those quoting them. As always I let some edge cases stay. Please people, keep it on topic and above all civil!
The rules: 2. Be respectful toward others at all times.
The purpose of the EVE Online forums is to provide a platform for exchange of ideas, and a venue for the discussion of EVE Online. Occasionally there will be conflicts that arise when people voice opinions. Forum users are expected to be courteous when disagreeing with others.
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13 rules broken out of 34 rules total. 4 more and I would have posted the rules NOT broken..... ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Fredfredbug4
Eve Defence Force Cult of War
2217
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:21:00 -
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It is a game for sure. If you wind up getting scammed, then all it means is that you lost that round. GG well played. The thing about EVE is that you will never hit rock bottom, because it is a game. You can lose everything but the one thing you will never be able to lose is that humble noob ship you started out with. You got that far starting with just a noob ship before, and you can do it again. Unless you got screwed over on an unprecedented level (like losing your character and all of the skill points with it) then it should be easier the second time around.
Got scammed out of your first 10 billion isk? No biggie! Sure it sucks, but chances are that now that you know what you're doing, you can make 20 billion isk in the same same time it took you to make 10 billion isk.
I wouldn't even say you actually lost something getting duped like that. Learning a lesson that can be valuable even in real life (don't be so gullible and trustworthy of strangers) is worth all the fictional money and even time in the world. Watch Fred Fred Frederation and stop cryptozoologist! Fight against the brutal genocide of fictional creatures across New Eden! Is that a metaphor? Probably not, but the fru-fru- people will sure love it! |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
155
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:28:00 -
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Considering the context of the OP, basically what it boils down to is some people aren't as evolved as others. Some are more animal than others, thinking only of themselves and how their actions effect themselves, while not caring about the impacts on others. Some are more enlightened and act in accordance with a proper moral and ethical guideline regarding interaction between all people.
Don't worry though, even though we're a few steps ahead of you on the staircase of human evolution, we'll reach down and pick you up to our level for the betterment of all of us. Even while you try and scream at and kick those you perceive to be below you.
You're lucky us good people exist working to make the lives better of everyone, unlike those of you who only care to act for your own self interests.
In EVE and Out. |
Zack Korth
Blasphemy INC.
298
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:40:00 -
[173] - Quote
I can't believe no one liked my ****, I laughed typing it. Actually, a new(ish) player just gifted me 250 million yesterday for being helpful, he said I was a swell guy, I believe him too, I am swell. (have pics), also, I haven't killed anyone in a long time, no one's felt compelled to mess with me, I actually disagree with your initial shitpost, I changed my mind, you're wrong. The eve community helps to fulfill your internet spaceships desire, suck it. |
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ISD Ezwal
ISD Community Communications Liaisons
1002
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:47:00 -
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I have removed a rule breaking post and the one quoting it.
The rules: 4. Personal attacks are prohibited.
Commonly known as flaming, personal attacks are posts that are designed to personally berate or insult another forum user. Posts of this nature are not beneficial to the community spirit that CCP promote and as such they will not be tolerated.
5. Trolling is prohibited.
Trolling is a defined as a post that is deliberately designed for the purpose of angering and insulting other players in an attempt to incite retaliation or an emotional response. Posts of this nature are disruptive, often abusive and do not contribute to the sense of community that CCP promote.
ISD Ezwal Commander Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department |
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
155
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:52:00 -
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We understand you're not capable of thinking outside of yourself.
We're here to help you. We will sift through your barrage of hate to reach the diamond that is your potential self, and nurture you out of your dark existence so you may blossom gloriously into the light of positivity and goodness.
The words may seem offensive, but that's only because you do not understand since you are not yet capable.
But we're here for you. We can help you become the person you need to be, and not the broken shell of one you currently refuse to acknowledge you really are. |
Chopper Rollins
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
565
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:54:00 -
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Marvin Shields wrote:..I have in my very long Eve career seen some of the most venomous, most vindictive people in gaming. Bear in mind, I played Ultima Online back when it came out and for many years following that, and that was THE game that started the open-world community-driven content MMO genre. Eve may be more polished and may have a greater following and has lasted a HELL of a lot longer, but UO was where it allllll started kids..
Well I was around long before the internet, have never played any online game except EvE and in my 4 year experience i have to say it's a great way for the naive to learn harsh lessons without harsh injury. It's pixels. You want change, you make it with power. I think it was Timothy Leary who crunched the miles of sociological data to conclude that the person with the fewest tricks for interacting with others will have those tricks honed to a razor's edge and therefore dominate any encounter. A limited range of ways to interact with others is defines as sickness. Short version: sickness rules.
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good. |
Ralen Zateki
Nexis. League of Infamy
134
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Posted - 2014.03.15 00:55:00 -
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Nope. Didn't read a single word. For two reasons, well, one really....
Started with [serious discussion].
Then the sub-reason... opened to find what I expected. Huge wall of text - eyes glazed over and mind immediately went blank.
Seriously. Seriously? |
Silvetica Dian
Manson Family Advent of Fate
817
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Posted - 2014.03.15 01:10:00 -
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Cannibal Kane wrote:War Kitten wrote:I think most of the OP's complaints can be resolved in three steps...
Stay out of hisec Stay off reddit Stay off the internet
Seriously, if a few bad apples ruin your entire orchard, you've got to stop focusing on the bad apples.
Eve's community in low and nullsec is fantastic, encouraging and helpful. Trust is a way of life in nullsec. Fear is a way of life in hisec because that's where the riffraff truly are, preying on the weak that don't know the rules or don't know how to play the game yet. Truth be told. Majority of people in EVE are good and helpful. The bad always gets the news which makes it appear that Bad is actually the majority. This guy. Mr Kane destroys corps and is the terror of high sec. He murders whole fleets of carebears and drives them out of their corp and sometimes out of eve. He is also a big softie. People that engage with him politely and honourably find him a valued friend. Corps that are being harrassed and he takes a liking to them find the corpses of their enemies laid in tribute at their doors. For causes that he likes he doesn't even charge. This guy encapsulates eve. People with a poor attitude suffer and those with a good attitude prosper. Almost all the a-holes of eve are actually nice people furthering an agenda. Sometimes they disagree and become frenemies. People with a poor attitude however find it rebounds upon them and they lash out blaming everyone but themselves. The experience you find in eve says a lot more about you than it does about the other eve players. Welcome to the sandbox. Money at its root is a form of rationing. When the richest 85 people have as much wealth as the poorest 3.5 billion (50% of humanity) it is clear where the source of poverty is. http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2014/jan/20/trickle-down-economics-broken-promise-richest-85 |
Karon Grandolf
Sebiestor Tribe Minmatar Republic
11
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Posted - 2014.03.15 01:14:00 -
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Calling for a cultural revolution within Eve is the right thing to do. If EVE is indeed real, then policing of players should be done by players themselves.
But EVE is no longer real. EVE is not real because EVE does not deliver the game mechanics that allows players to limit bad behavior in any meaningful way.
EVE seems to evolve in a direction where a class of older assholes grief and grind another class of new players that don't stay in the game for very long. But then again, that is hard to know, cause CCP doesn't seem to be willing to share the data on how wars affect subscriptions.
In another similar thread I asked C C P Manifest about this, but he denied my questions, simply ignored them.
I get the idea that CCP is akin scammers, luring new players using the excellent crafting, and promise of doing great things together with good people. What they are really doing is feeding the sharks.
The game mechanics is unbalanced, they do not allow for non-ship PVP'ers to combat the sharks, without becoming sharks themselves. |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17096
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Posted - 2014.03.15 01:29:00 -
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Actually you asked CCP Manifest a question he'd already answered. If you read the post that you've linked he clearly says that as posted in his previous post, which he quoted for your convenience, that CCP are seeing both new players and returning players, which suggests new accounts being opened and old ones being reactivated.
The difference between new accounts and new players is negligible, any new account is new business, regardless of whether it's a genuine newbie or from an existing customer.
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