Ok, fair enough. I somehow read it as GÇ£doGÇ¥ rather than GÇ£canGÇ¥.

Still, the answer remains much the same: maybe you can, but you don't. The same goes in EVE: you could carry a gun, but you don't. And just like with that choice, even if you do, it won't really help against the determined attacker unless you bring back-up.

A .40 Caliber bullet in the T-Box followed by two in the chest will stop any threat 'IRL'

unbonused drones do not carry enough 'dps' (See Stopping power) to deal with gankers, and deal with means kill.

He has the right to say what he wants(unless maybe it breaks some forum rules). But that right to let him speak his mind doesn't mean that what he says is correct.

you cannot carry a gun on a miner barge or merchant ship in EVE... which is bullshit

A .40 Caliber bullet in the T-Box followed by two in the chest will stop any threat 'IRL'

unbonused drones do not carry enough 'dps' (See Stopping power) to deal with gankers, and deal with means kill.

That's a really odd, and grossly hypocritical, response.

But in anycase I tend to agree with most things I see Tippia post.

You're fortunate that she's obviously enjoying playing your forum games, as it's pretty much the only thing that gives your comments any kind of credence at all. She obviously enjoys the sparring practice lol

I'd get bored with that quickly myself. It's obvious what you're trying to do and I'm not interested much in getting involved myself because everything you write is superficial bullshit aimed at perpetuating a simple argument (note I said argument, not debate). You are a very simple forum troll. Period.

Least I hope you are, as if you truly believe the stuff you say then...uhgg, Tippia has a point about you needing to step away from the keyboard and seek help.


Tell that to the awesome Badger bait that cost my alt her Proteus lol (and almost my bomber too).

Ships require balance. It's silly to expect a mining barge, designed for maximum efficiency at one task (mining) should also be an elite PVP vessel. Next you'll ask for covops everything, and frigates that can fit battleship grade weapons. Stop asking for tools to enable laziness and instead use the tools you already have to survive, or fight, smarter.

It will take extra effort, yes. Sorry but it's unavoidable.

On a more serious note, as I've said before, if you didn't have the "bad guys" to wail and gnash your teeth about you wouldn't enjoy the game nearly as much. Once this bit of self realization hits home, you will find inner harmony.

If you lost a T3 ship to a badger, you are daft.

This is blasphemy. There is no such thing as a bad episode of BSG and insinuating that there ever was one should be punishable by death.

You go to hell.

You go to hell and you die.

"Hero" was pretty bad. Do you really think a black dude in a cylon prison for several years would still have such a fine perm?

But more importantly than that, it-¦s disturbingly sociopathic.

but after few times being killed in high space and lost really millions i kind of have enough of EvE.

No, I lost a T3 ship to the T3 gang for whom the Badger was bait for.

Quite an awesome battle badger fit actually. The guys who murdered me were nice enough to give me it's fit afterward when I congratulated them on an awesome bait.

What were you in, what were you doing, and where were you when you blew up?

I've arrived late, I don't know whats happened here exactly... talking about defending mining ships?

Let's get back on track here and highlight the real problem again:
EVE is filled with grown men who log into an online space game for the purpose of angering other grown men for their own personal amusement.

The OP is a breathe of fresh air. I have done almost everything "evil" this game has to offer and not a single time have I been rude about it. Not once have I extracted a tear or made someone want to quit the game through my words and attitude. If I can do it, so can they. They aren't special and neither am I. This has nothing to do with game mechanics, the issue is that of human interaction. I've ganked many ships and not once have mistreated the people behind the keyboard over it. The same cannot be said for the legion of sad RL losers who use EVE Online to make themselves feel better at everyone else's expense.

CCP doesn't do a single thing about it because they want subscriptions. That means us players only have one reasonable response: Unsubscribe.

I have not payed CCP a single dime since I saw someone having his "tears extracted" in local about 6 months ago. I sent in petitions about the players involved and they saw no repercussions, not even a suspension that put them offline for a week or something.

It's up to us normal functioning adults to show our displeasure towards CCP's lack of action. Anyone and everyone who agrees that the personalities in this game need a culling should stand with me on this. Unsubscribe and just grind for the ISK if needed. It sends the right message to CCP: If you're going to allow all this non-sense in your game to maximize subscriptions, you're not going to maximize subscriptions.

it do not matter anymore.

What were you in, what were you doing, and where were you when you blew up?

:@ OP and other like minded individuals


What exactly are you proposing?

Please provide a conscise numbered list with specific wording of what exactly it is that you want done.

Please append a short explanation to each numbered entry, if it requires elaboration.

Something similar to this:

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1) Change x to y:
-Reasoning and elaboration

2) Implement mechanic z:
- Reasoning and elaboration

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This will enable the community to address and consider specifically what it is you are proposing in an informed and organised manner, whereas right now, Inand of thers have no idea what exactly it is you have in mind.

Thanks.

So it wasn't the badger that killed you, but his friends.... completely not what we're talking about here.

To reply to your many posts about existing 'tools'

.... Conceptually the mining barge makes no sense in the EVE Universe.... In a world gone mad with greed and villainy, where damn near anyone has access to cutting edge military hardware..... Mining Barges wouldn't exist.... they would all be tanked like a Marauder, and probably keep the firepower .... they might sacrifice speed and manuevering for that, but they definitely wouldn't be the puny little things they are now, and the smallest one would not be the toughest one.

Alternatively they might be small, fast, low signature frigates, with a full flight of light drones and a stealth bombers cloak bonuses.

Freighters would have about 16 turrets moving as slow as they do.

The kind of sandbox ganking proponents claim eve to be has no room for the kind of weak fitting capabilities seen on most mining/merchant ships.

To reply to your many posts about existing 'tools'

.... Conceptually the mining barge makes no sense in the EVE Universe.... In a world gone mad with greed and villainy, where damn near anyone has access to cutting edge military hardware..... Mining Barges wouldn't exist.... they would all be tanked like a Marauder, and probably keep the firepower .... they might sacrifice speed and manuevering for that, but they definitely wouldn't be the puny little things they are now, and the smallest one would not be the toughest one.

Alternatively they might be small, fast, low signature frigates, with a full flight of light drones and a stealth bombers cloak bonuses.

Freighters would have about 16 turrets moving as slow as they do.

The kind of sandbox ganking proponents claim eve to be has no room for the kind of weak fitting capabilities seen on most mining/merchant ships.

This has nothing to do with gameplay issues, and everything with the motivations of a certain category of people who only enjoy EvE as a platform to inflict emotional harm and others, that is, pursue their RL sadistic tendencies.

Most MMOs pre-emptively trammelize their game to prevent toxic interactions, as it-¦s the only way to effectively limit the negative impact those people have.

One other possibility would be to selectively IP ban toxic individuals, but this would require quite a lot of GM work, and forbidding playing behind VPNs and proxies. However, this would allow for the removal of Concord, which is only there so as to keep tear harvesting in check.

Conceptually the mining barge makes no sense in the EVE Universe.... In a world gone mad with greed and villainy, where damn near anyone has access to cutting edge military hardware..... Mining Barges wouldn't exist.

The kind of sandbox ganking proponents claim eve to be has no room for the kind of weak fitting capabilities seen on most mining/merchant ships.

I'm sorry, but either you did not read my post, or chose to disregard its contents.

In either case, you did not reply in the format I had suggested would be conducive to a more organised and concise discussion of what exactly it is that OP and like minded individuals want done. I proposed it not for my "personal interest", but in order to better facilitate understanding of everyones specific positions and proposals.

Therefore I am forced to disregard the contents of your post, just as you chose to disregard the contents of mine.

I'm sorry, but you really leave me no option in that regard.

It is very confusing to me, why you would deliberately make the choice to respond to my post of which the contents is ONLY a suggestion for a format of discussion, in a fashion that is completely contrary to the only contents of my post, which is to ask for people to use the format I proposed.

Please reformat your post to fit the model I proposed, in order to facilitate discussion on this matter in an organised, informed and concise manner.

That little girl has zero chance.

Put your daughter on the computer and read what I'm saying to her:

Please do not listen to your daddy. He is a bad person. If you believe the things he tells you, you too will grow up to be a bad person. Call social services and tell them he's a bad person so you can be put in a home with people who will raise you into a good person.

this is about the single most vile thing i have had the displeasure of reading outside of Reddit.
seriously man, im not one with much of a moral code but you should be genuinely ashamed for that comment,
i am for being part of the same community that generated it.

edit: yeah i know im a little late to it but still.