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Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
4500
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:21:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:
Is that your excuse for shooting fish in a barrel in highsec versus showing this loud mouthed pubbie consequences by blowing him up?
I would be very interested to hear what your excuse is for explicitly refusing to fight someone without a fleet to back you up?
Bring your own. You don't accommodate your victims, why should I accommodate you?
This pubbie built a fleet. Why can't you? The tools are there. Why do you whine instead of act?
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5358
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:21:00 -
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Karon Grandolf wrote:baltec1 wrote:Karon Grandolf wrote:EVE is changing all the time. These changes influence the balances between play styles and what is practically available experiences in the game. This in relation to established players as well as new ones.
I found Infinity Zionas post on the game experience in null very interesting as I have almost no personal experience of that. It seems to support that EVE is evolving in a way that limits the available gameplay. Even if the mechanics are there, the combined net result of players and game mechanics means that large parts of the possible experiences are not practically viable to engage in.
In short, EVE is becoming less of a game than what it could be. It is becoming more gamy, and less roleplaying and exploration friendly. Becoming less community oriented for non-combat players too.
The peaceful industrial high sec corporation is not viable as a lifestyle in EVE, not because it's not mechanically available, but because there are no mechanics to protect that lifestyle from other competing lifestyles in the game. There are plenty of ways for an industrial corp to protect itself, its not CCPs fault many chose not to use them. I would also take any post infinity makes on null sec with a pinch of salt around the same size as the salt flats of Botswana. There are indeed several actions that can be taken as a reaction to a war. Most if not all of them involves dismantling the the lifestyle I was talking about, which is exactly the point. This does not make them less fun if you were to embrace them, but it doesn't change that the lifestyle is very hard to maintain, compared to the high sec war deccing lifestyle of griefers and mercenaries. The combat lifestyle can impose on the non-combat through wars, but the non-combat cannot impose on the combat by barring a corp from high sec for a week for instance. You can pay Concord to be passive, not active. Not to say that it should be possible, but the balance favors the combat lifestyle.
EVE has always, I repeat, ALWAYS favored the defender. It is simplicity itself to avoid combat.
Most people can't be arsed to learn how to do so, and refuse to learn how to continue their normal activities in the face of potential aggression. Denying this obvious fact puts one firmly in that camp.
Shall we also point out that not only is an element of danger a necessary part of the game, without it most "industrial focused" characters would quit out of sheer boredom in remarkably short order. Despite protests otherwise, EVE is a pretty boring mining / harvesting simulator... which is fine because that isn't its goal. It's goal is to provide a universe where you can pursue those interests IN A DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT.
Many players become quite adept and continuing their peaceful pursuits despite dangerous circumstances they find themselves in.
Others simply complain on the forums, attempting to change the core premise of the game to suit their limited ability to adapt to other players actions.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
10392
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:24:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
No its only easy to kill people if you choose to make it easy... I could sit in a 0.5 and gank people all day. Could sit on a gate and gank people all day. Could make friends and gank those. Could fake recruit and gank those.
I don't do it because I'd rather play football than touch football, just like I'd rather play cruel harsh EvE than your version of easy safe EvE, Baltec.
I find the current trend of 98-100% kill efficiency an embarassment. I'd be embarassed to have that ratio.
We don't care how we kill people if it makes us rich.
Point still stands, don't make it easy for us.
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Ranger 1
Ranger Corp
5358
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:27:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
No its only easy to kill people if you choose to make it easy... I could sit in a 0.5 and gank people all day. Could sit on a gate and gank people all day. Could make friends and gank those. Could fake recruit and gank those.
I don't do it because I'd rather play football than touch football, just like I'd rather play cruel harsh EvE than your version of easy safe EvE, Baltec.
I find the current trend of 98-100% kill efficiency an embarassment. I'd be embarassed to have that ratio.
We don't care how we kill people if it makes us rich. Point still stands, don't make it easy for us.
Or to put it another way, the simplest of precautions and the slightest hint of common sense would easily protect you from any of those situations.
If you chose not employ them, that's your problem... not the fault of the game or the other players.
To carve a successful niche for yourself in EVE you need to be able to out sell, out produce, out fight,-á out run, or out wit your competitors.
If you can do none of the above, your only option is to complain on the forums that somehow you are at a disadvantage using the exact same tool set-áas the rest of the player base. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1833
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:30:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:Karon Grandolf wrote:baltec1 wrote:Karon Grandolf wrote:EVE is changing all the time. These changes influence the balances between play styles and what is practically available experiences in the game. This in relation to established players as well as new ones.
I found Infinity Zionas post on the game experience in null very interesting as I have almost no personal experience of that. It seems to support that EVE is evolving in a way that limits the available gameplay. Even if the mechanics are there, the combined net result of players and game mechanics means that large parts of the possible experiences are not practically viable to engage in.
In short, EVE is becoming less of a game than what it could be. It is becoming more gamy, and less roleplaying and exploration friendly. Becoming less community oriented for non-combat players too.
The peaceful industrial high sec corporation is not viable as a lifestyle in EVE, not because it's not mechanically available, but because there are no mechanics to protect that lifestyle from other competing lifestyles in the game. There are plenty of ways for an industrial corp to protect itself, its not CCPs fault many chose not to use them. I would also take any post infinity makes on null sec with a pinch of salt around the same size as the salt flats of Botswana. There are indeed several actions that can be taken as a reaction to a war. Most if not all of them involves dismantling the the lifestyle I was talking about, which is exactly the point. This does not make them less fun if you were to embrace them, but it doesn't change that the lifestyle is very hard to maintain, compared to the high sec war deccing lifestyle of griefers and mercenaries. The combat lifestyle can impose on the non-combat through wars, but the non-combat cannot impose on the combat by barring a corp from high sec for a week for instance. You can pay Concord to be passive, not active. Not to say that it should be possible, but the balance favors the combat lifestyle. EVE has always, I repeat, ALWAYS favored the defender. It is simplicity itself to avoid combat. Most people can't be arsed to learn how to do so, and refuse to learn how to continue their normal activities in the face of potential aggression. Denying this obvious fact puts one firmly in that camp. Shall we also point out that not only is an element of danger a necessary part of the game, without it most "industrial focused" characters would quit out of sheer boredom in remarkably short order. Despite protests otherwise, EVE is a pretty boring mining / harvesting simulator... which is fine because that isn't its goal. It's goal is to provide a universe where you can pursue those interests IN A DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT. Many players become quite adept at continuing their peaceful pursuits despite dangerous circumstances they find themselves in. Others simply complain on the forums, attempting to change the core premise of the game to suit their limited ability to adapt to other players actions.
EvE has never favored the defender lol. This is totally false.
The first time I jumped into low, there was no gate cloak, there was no timer, you appeared in space, in the middle of nowhere and if it was being camped you died before you loaded.
Since then a few nerfs on killing people have been added but a huge amount of stuff introduced to make it easier to catch and kill people - bubbles, hotdrops, cat ganks, increased dps, links, RR boosters, reps, long range tacklers, bubble deploying ships...
In fact the reason we now see an almost industrial-less low and null is because its so easy to catch and kill industrial characters.
Apart from the time where you spawnd without cloak and died to gankers before loading, its never been easier to kill people in game without repercussions.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
10393
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:32:00 -
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Ranger 1 wrote:
Or to put it another way, the simplest of precautions and the slightest hint of common sense would easily protect you from any of those situations.
If you chose not employ them, that's your problem... not the fault of the game or the other players.
Its a lesson that many seem unable to learn. 2/3 of our corps supers have been funded by high sec scams and ganking overstuffed haulers.
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baltec1
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
10393
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:35:00 -
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Infinity Ziona wrote:
In fact the reason we now see an almost industrial-less low and null is because its so easy to catch and kill industrial characters.
You don't see it because its cheaper to build everything in high sec and just ship it out. Its very easy to get around in low and null to do industry, it just isn't financially viable to do it other than on things that cannot be built in high sec.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:35:00 -
[218] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:
Is that your excuse for shooting fish in a barrel in highsec versus showing this loud mouthed pubbie consequences by blowing him up?
I would be very interested to hear what your excuse is for explicitly refusing to fight someone without a fleet to back you up? Bring your own. You don't accommodate your victims, why should I accommodate you? This pubbie built a fleet. Why can't you? The tools are there. Why do you whine instead of act?
Grr, not whelping.
By the way, how's the blog doing?
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1836
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:38:00 -
[219] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
In fact the reason we now see an almost industrial-less low and null is because its so easy to catch and kill industrial characters.
You don't see it because its cheaper to build everything in high sec and just ship it out. Its very easy to get around in low and null to do industry, it just isn't financially viable to do it other than on things that cannot be built in high sec.
Because you lack an industrial base and market since you kill everything you see. You think we'd have cities if every immigrant was murdered by the locals as soon as they arrived. You do it to yourself so don't whine about the consequences.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
4501
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:39:00 -
[220] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:
Is that your excuse for shooting fish in a barrel in highsec versus showing this loud mouthed pubbie consequences by blowing him up?
I would be very interested to hear what your excuse is for explicitly refusing to fight someone without a fleet to back you up? Bring your own. You don't accommodate your victims, why should I accommodate you? This pubbie built a fleet. Why can't you? The tools are there. Why do you whine instead of act? Grr, not whelping. By the way, how's the blog doing?
Resorting to changing goal posts huh? That's what I thought. :)
Nice to know I worked and am now better than you. Blog is fine btw. Serves its purpose. I get eve mails thanking me for it! Started a new one for scope even.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:42:00 -
[221] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:
Is that your excuse for shooting fish in a barrel in highsec versus showing this loud mouthed pubbie consequences by blowing him up?
I would be very interested to hear what your excuse is for explicitly refusing to fight someone without a fleet to back you up? Bring your own. You don't accommodate your victims, why should I accommodate you? This pubbie built a fleet. Why can't you? The tools are there. Why do you whine instead of act? Grr, not whelping. By the way, how's the blog doing? Resorting to changing goal posts huh? That's what I thought. :) Nice to know I worked and am now better than you. Blog is fine btw. Serves its purpose. I get eve mails thanking me for it! Started a new one for scope even.
I'm not changing the goalposts at all.
You're the one claiming gankers have no balls, while simultaneously managing enough sophistry to justify refusing to fight me without a fleet to back you up.
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple. You know it's why your cute little Proveldtariat failed so badly, too.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Karon Grandolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:44:00 -
[222] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Karon Grandolf wrote:
There are indeed several actions that can be taken as a reaction to a war. Most if not all of them involves dismantling the the lifestyle I was talking about, which is exactly the point.
This does not make them less fun if you were to embrace them, but it doesn't change that the lifestyle is very hard to maintain, compared to the high sec war deccing lifestyle of griefers and mercenaries.
The combat lifestyle can impose on the non-combat through wars, but the non-combat cannot impose on the combat by barring a corp from high sec for a week for instance. You can pay Concord to be passive, not active.
Not to say that it should be possible, but the balance favors the combat lifestyle.
EVE is advertised are a dark and cruel game, why would you expect it to be anything else? You are playing a combat game, treat it as such.
EVE is also advertised as 'Real' (see C C P Manifest's bio for instance ;))
There was a time when I agreed that EVE was indeed very real. Mostly because it allowed for an ecology of gameplay styles, and social interaction.
I considered it a testament to the social character of the human, that in spite of what EVE allowed of mischief, the most predominant experience in EVE was still people helping each other and coorporate to create something together.
It was possible to play with a group of people, regardless of what kind of gameplay you preferred to engage in.
The environment allowed for it because it was better balanced between the styles of play. None was too dominant.
I believe the current environment leads to more isolated non-combat players than before.
EVE is not only a combat game, even if it's advertised as such.
But more than anything it would be great to have actual data to discuss these issues. I also asked C C P Manifest if they have the data. never got an answer. So we don't know whether they chose not to share or simply don't know themselves.
I agree with Ranger1 that EVE should provide A DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT. The problem is that it is not. |
Anslo
The Scope
Gallente Federation
4501
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:51:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I'm not changing the goalposts at all.
You're the one claiming gankers have no balls, while simultaneously managing enough sophistry to justify refusing to fight me without a fleet to back you up.
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple. You know it's why your cute little Proveldtariat failed so badly, too.
And now you see why Care Bears get upset. Irrelevant thought. You simply are not capable of amassing a force to fight me. Also the Proveldtariat didn't fail. We simply evolved. Come at us, bro. "The Proveldtariat didn't fail, we just stopped doing anything toward the goals we originally had". Gotcha. 
Come see what we accomplished! Unlike you lot, we let our actions speak without pontificating it. But again, you're simply incapable. Oh well.
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith
Against ALL Anomalies
161
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:51:00 -
[224] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple.
I think because of this post it's fair to say this guy should be warned or possibly banned. |
Eli Kzanti
The Pod Foundation
71
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:53:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You're the one claiming gankers have no balls, while simultaneously managing enough sophistry to justify refusing to fight me without a fleet to back you up.
Its unfortunate because they do, in fact, seem to lack in that area... unless you'd like to point out how exactly ganking requires any balls whatsoever? :P |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:56:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
I'm not changing the goalposts at all.
You're the one claiming gankers have no balls, while simultaneously managing enough sophistry to justify refusing to fight me without a fleet to back you up.
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple. You know it's why your cute little Proveldtariat failed so badly, too.
And now you see why Care Bears get upset. Irrelevant thought. You simply are not capable of amassing a force to fight me. Also the Proveldtariat didn't fail. We simply evolved. Come at us, bro. "The Proveldtariat didn't fail, we just stopped doing anything toward the goals we originally had". Gotcha. Come see what we accomplished! Unlike you lot, we let our actions speak without pontificating it. But again, you're simply incapable. Oh well.
You've "accomplished" a minor league gatecamp in Huola that everyone and their brother knows about in advance.
/golfclap
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:57:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple.
I think because of this post it's fair to say this guy should be warned or possibly banned.
Care to explain? Or are you just trolling?
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Eli Kzanti
The Pod Foundation
71
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Posted - 2014.03.15 03:58:00 -
[228] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:You've "accomplished" a minor league gatecamp in Huola that everyone and their brother knows about in advance.
/golfclap
^ evidently hasnt got a clue there. Or anywhere, from the looks of things. One more shot at saying something accurate?  |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith
Against ALL Anomalies
161
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:02:00 -
[229] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
You're a hypocrite and a coward, plain and simple.
I think because of this post it's fair to say this guy should be warned or possibly banned. Care to explain? Or are you just trolling?
https://wiki.eveonline.com/en/wiki/Forum_rules?_ga=1.4786810.818293199.1393290763 |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1837
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:03:00 -
[230] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Infinity Ziona wrote:
Because you lack an industrial base and market since you kill everything you see. You think we'd have cities if every immigrant was murdered by the locals as soon as they arrived. You do it to yourself so don't whine about the consequences.
No its cost. Its cheaper to just import from empire.
No its because you don't have a customer base big enough to support industry and probably would had you and the rest of the alliances not decided to murder all your customers.
Were there a better spread of players across EVE there would likely be justification for better mechanics to be implemented to support those characters. Since you prefer a null wasteland with your exclusive pre-industrial age tribal social systems you don't have those mechanics. Stop whinging.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
|
Posted - 2014.03.15 04:08:00 -
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Divine Entervention wrote:
Telling someone that I believe they are a coward is not a personal attack.
Anslo is a coward. He's also a hypocrite for literally saying that an entire subset of players do not have any balls, while hiding behind his fleet to say so.
That's just a fact, like saying that Infinity Ziona is a liar. He is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few weeks.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith
Against ALL Anomalies
161
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:11:00 -
[232] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Telling someone that I believe they are a coward is not a personal attack.
Anslo is a coward. He's also a hypocrite for literally saying that an entire subset of players do not have any balls, while hiding behind his fleet to say so.
That's just a fact, like saying that Infinity Ziona is a liar. He is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few weeks.
I'm so sorry for you.
Knowing bags of hate like you exist is such a cruel reminder of how unfair life really is. 
I truly hope things get better for you. |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
|
Posted - 2014.03.15 04:13:00 -
[233] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Telling someone that I believe they are a coward is not a personal attack.
Anslo is a coward. He's also a hypocrite for literally saying that an entire subset of players do not have any balls, while hiding behind his fleet to say so.
That's just a fact, like saying that Infinity Ziona is a liar. He is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few weeks.
I'm so sorry for you. Knowing bags of hate like you exist is such a cruel reminder of how unfair life really is. I truly hope things get better for you.
The funny thing is, that my daughter likes to sit on my lap when I'm on my suicide ganker character. She loves to watch as other ships blow up, her enthusiasm is hilarious.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Karon Grandolf
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
17
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:14:00 -
[234] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Karon Grandolf wrote:
I agree with Ranger1 that EVE should provide A DANGEROUS AND CHALLENGING ENVIRONMENT. The problem is that it is not.
Yet here you are complaining that you cannot run your non combat corp because its too dangerous.
Once again these issues are reduced to a question about a single pilot or a single corp. My interest is the combined result of the interaction between the different styles of play in the game.
I don't wish to complain. I'm sad to see the potential of the game being wasted as a whole. It is very difficult to run a non-combat corp in high sec of significant size. Not because it's dangerous, but because non-combat players find high sec combat boring.
A high sec war is the combat culture imposing on the non-combat. The combat culture impose on the non-combat on their own terms. They change the play for the non-combat to better fit the combat. I do not disaprove of this.
What is lacking is the non-combat culture being able to impose itself on the combat culture on the non-combat terms. Maybe it should be possible to exclude for a period, certain pilots and/or corporations that has become a menace to the industries of high sec? Or just make them legit targets for anyone in high sec for a period.
This could be used instead of a limit to the number of war decs. The more wars, the cheaper it becomes to use this tool. High sec needs mechanics to effectively police itself. The non-combat culture needs tools to bring the dangerous and challenging environment to the combat culture on it's own terms using non-combat tools. |
Infinity Ziona
Cloakers
1837
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:14:00 -
[235] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote: Telling someone that I believe they are a coward is not a personal attack. Anslo is a coward. He's also a hypocrite for literally saying that an entire subset of players do not have any balls, while hiding behind his fleet to say so. That's just a fact, like saying that Infinity Ziona is a liar. He is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few weeks.
I'm tired of attempting to educate you however its incorrect to say I'm a liar for saying that POCO's act like sov assets or to refer to POCO's as sov assets in the context that I referred to them as such - since POCO's in null are always destroyed by the sov owning alliance and their own POCO's installed + they reinforce and have the same HP / mechanics as sov assets making them Sov Assets.
Want to make billions a week solo running combat sites in null sec? -á Read my Exploratation Guide here -> https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=309467 |
Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3051
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:16:00 -
[236] - Quote
Holy **** Anslol is tearing this thread up, rofl.
Loving it!
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith
Against ALL Anomalies
161
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:16:00 -
[237] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Telling someone that I believe they are a coward is not a personal attack.
Anslo is a coward. He's also a hypocrite for literally saying that an entire subset of players do not have any balls, while hiding behind his fleet to say so.
That's just a fact, like saying that Infinity Ziona is a liar. He is, unless pocos became sov assets in the last few weeks.
I'm so sorry for you. Knowing bags of hate like you exist is such a cruel reminder of how unfair life really is. I truly hope things get better for you. The funny thing is, that my daughter likes to sit on my lap when I'm on my suicide ganker character. She loves to watch as other ships blow up, her enthusiasm is hilarious.
Yea, I've always felt there should be some sort of test adults should have to take if they wish to reproduce. You have proven that you're a reason why it should be so.
That little girl has zero chance |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space
The ROC
3109
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:23:00 -
[238] - Quote
Infinity Ziona wrote:
I'm tired of attempting to educate you however its incorrect to say I'm a liar for saying that POCO's act like sov assets or to refer to POCO's as sov assets in the context that I referred to them as such - since POCO's in null are always destroyed by the sov owning alliance and their own POCO's installed + they reinforce and have the same HP / mechanics as sov assets making them Sov Assets.
Notice how frantically he dodges and gyrates, almost literally bending over backwards to justify such a statement.
The Internet Gymnast in his natural habitat.
Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Katrina Oniseki
Revenent Defence Corperation
Ishuk-Raata Enforcement Directive
3052
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:24:00 -
[239] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:
Please do not listen to your daddy. He is a bad person. If you believe the things he tells you, you too will grow up to be a bad person. Call social services and tell them he's a bad person so you can be put in a home with people who will raise you into a good person.
As a parent as well, I think you're taking this a bit too far. She isn't part of this video game political war. Let's leave her out of it, okay?
Have some class, even if he brought her into it.
Ch+½j+ì Katrina Oniseki
~ (RDC) Chief Operations Officer
~ [I-RED] Director of Public Relations |
Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith
Against ALL Anomalies
161
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Posted - 2014.03.15 04:24:00 -
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Katrina Oniseki wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:
Please do not listen to your daddy. He is a bad person. If you believe the things he tells you, you too will grow up to be a bad person. Call social services and tell them he's a bad person so you can be put in a home with people who will raise you into a good person.
As a parent as well, I think you're taking this a bit too far. She isn't part of this video game political war. Let's leave her out of it, okay? Have some class, even if he brought her into it.
I'm not the one who brought her up. He could've kept that to himself. |
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