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Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
78
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Posted - 2014.03.15 18:58:00 -
[481] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Just for clarification:
I don't scam
I don't gank
I don't laugh at people who are bad enough that they get killed by somone who players as badly as me
I make a habit of helping new players
I do play in an NBSI alliance in 0.0 but I don't awox or spy
But
I want my choice to play that way to have meaning. If I were forced to play that way then my choice to do would mean nothing; I'd be just a clockwork orange, and I'd soon quit the game. Because the only reason that EVE Online, A Bad Game gets people to log in is because of the player interaction.
I accept that this choice means that I will sometimes be at a disadvantage. I am self secure enough to laugh off attempts by players who choose a different path to try and make me feel bad when those choices cost me. Generally I manage to turn the attempt back on them and have a laugh myself.
I am content that my choice has overall been to my advantage ingame: my word is good, there are many people in game ready to lend me ISK or assets (Bliss if you're reading this I'll trade the Rev back when the rugby is over and I log in OK?) but win or lose, my choices, my consequences, my responsibility: my game. what meaning or consequence does ganking have if the primary strategy involves throw away characters and in a game where a gank ship loss is never consequential? |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14115
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:01:00 -
[482] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:Malcanis wrote:Just for clarification:
I don't scam
I don't gank
I don't laugh at people who are bad enough that they get killed by somone who players as badly as me
I make a habit of helping new players
I do play in an NBSI alliance in 0.0 but I don't awox or spy
But
I want my choice to play that way to have meaning. If I were forced to play that way then my choice to do would mean nothing; I'd be just a clockwork orange, and I'd soon quit the game. Because the only reason that EVE Online, A Bad Game gets people to log in is because of the player interaction.
I accept that this choice means that I will sometimes be at a disadvantage. I am self secure enough to laugh off attempts by players who choose a different path to try and make me feel bad when those choices cost me. Generally I manage to turn the attempt back on them and have a laugh myself.
I am content that my choice has overall been to my advantage ingame: my word is good, there are many people in game ready to lend me ISK or assets (Bliss if you're reading this I'll trade the Rev back when the rugby is over and I log in OK?) but win or lose, my choices, my consequences, my responsibility: my game. what meaning or consequence does yanking have if the primary strategy involves throw away characters and in a game where a tank ship loss is never consequential?
I don't care. It's my job to keep my ship safe when I'm in space. I accept the risk and try and learn from my errors when I lose.
I've lost ships when I wasn't paying attention or just plain screwed up. I didn't whine about it because I'm a grown man.
1 Kings 12:11
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Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
79
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:07:00 -
[483] - Quote
this immature "I didn't whine about losing ships" is ******* stupid. There have been a few, but for the most part people are just pontificating on how *CONSEQUENTLESS* .... and retardedly easy it is to kill merchant/mining ships...... a real man would say that's pussifying piracy and fight for more ships to have a reason and reasonable ability to **** each other up |

Helia Tranquilis
State War Academy Caldari State
16
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:12:00 -
[484] - Quote
I thought we had a good conversation going... until a certain continent woke up and the normal poo-flinging commenced. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14116
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:14:00 -
[485] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:this immature "I didn't whine about losing ships" is ******* stupid. There have been a few, but for the most part people are just pontificating on how *CONSEQUENTLESS* .... and retardedly easy it is to kill merchant/mining ships...... a real man would say that's pussifying piracy and fight for more ships to have a reason and reasonable ability to **** each other up
Ok well, you can say it's stupid - but I'm the one who's having a good game experience playing my way.
I apologise for not being as thin-skinned as you think I should be. No doubt it's a personal failing of mine.
1 Kings 12:11
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1067
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:15:00 -
[486] - Quote
Seriously, few shabby pirates with guns can capture whole tanker with cargo worth millions in real life? The game is completely fair when you look at that from this perspective. _¦Å-æ-»¦Ñ¦¼-Ä_-¢-å¦ä_-½-»-å¦ÿ-ò-û¦¦ |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
80
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:20:00 -
[487] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:Seriously, few shabby pirates with guns can capture whole tanker with cargo worth millions in real life? This game is completely fair when you look at that from this perspective. until death is permanent in this game and that means each actual human behind the controls only gets one shot at eve life... no, no its not... because those inbred fucksticks got a bullet to the head each and no jump clones |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
80
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:23:00 -
[488] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote:this immature "I didn't whine about losing ships" is ******* stupid. There have been a few, but for the most part people are just pontificating on how *CONSEQUENTLESS* .... and retardedly easy it is to kill merchant/mining ships...... a real man would say that's pussifying piracy and fight for more ships to have a reason and reasonable ability to **** each other up Ok well, you can say it's stupid - but I'm the one who's having a good game experience playing my way. I apologise for not being as thin-skinned as you think I should be. No doubt it's a personal failing of mine. and you can claim to be thick skinned but you are not. it is one of your failings.
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14118
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:23:00 -
[489] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:Seriously, few shabby pirates with guns can capture whole tanker with cargo worth millions in real life? This game is completely fair when you look at that from this perspective. until death is permanent in this game and that means each actual human behind the controls only gets one shot at eve life... no, no its not... because those inbred fucksticks got a bullet to the head each and no jump clones
The tanker captain was equally without a clone and could also be killed the same way. Are you sure that's the balancing change you want?
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14118
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:24:00 -
[490] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote:this immature "I didn't whine about losing ships" is ******* stupid. There have been a few, but for the most part people are just pontificating on how *CONSEQUENTLESS* .... and retardedly easy it is to kill merchant/mining ships...... a real man would say that's pussifying piracy and fight for more ships to have a reason and reasonable ability to **** each other up Ok well, you can say it's stupid - but I'm the one who's having a good game experience playing my way. I apologise for not being as thin-skinned as you think I should be. No doubt it's a personal failing of mine. and you can claim to be thick skinned but you are not. it is one of your failings.
Ah, the "NO YOU ARE" rebuttal. As devastating now as it was in the playground when I was 6.
1 Kings 12:11
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
321
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:26:00 -
[491] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:inbred fucksticks
Ooh the anger is rising in this one.
Such a moral person. So much dignity and restraint.
You think a ship fit and intended for a resource/haul activity should be capable of fighting off a ship fit and intended for destroying other ships?
What planet do you live on exactly? |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
80
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:29:00 -
[492] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Kyperion wrote:inbred fucksticks Ooh the anger is rising in this one. Such a moral person. So much dignity and restraint. You think a ship fit and intended for a resource/haul activity should be capable of fighting off a ship fit and intended for destroying other ships? What planet do you live on exactly? the planet where that routinely happens on a daily basis.... see everything fom armored trucks to concealed carry laws. |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
80
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:31:00 -
[493] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:Seriously, few shabby pirates with guns can capture whole tanker with cargo worth millions in real life? This game is completely fair when you look at that from this perspective. until death is permanent in this game and that means each actual human behind the controls only gets one shot at eve life... no, no its not... because those inbred fucksticks got a bullet to the head each and no jump clones The tanker captain was equally without a clone and could also be killed the same way. Are you sure that's the balancing change you want? we all do it everytime we undock from bed so why the hell not? |

Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
321
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:32:00 -
[494] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:the planet where that routinely happens on a daily basis.... see everything fom armored trucks to concealed carry laws.
Oh?
Do they use combat tanks to mine ore these days?
Do they use aircraft carriers for transporting large quantities of crude oil?
I must have MISSED THE ******* MEMO. |

Goe Rilla
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:33:00 -
[495] - Quote
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Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1069
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:34:00 -
[496] - Quote
We know there are gamers that like games you play to get away from a real life cruelty, but EVE is a bit too real for those people probably. Sentient Drone: **y d* y*u h*** *s *** |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
197
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:36:00 -
[497] - Quote
Salvos Rhoska wrote:Goe Rilla wrote:There couldn't be more evidence of a premise, my friend...
Gratuitous and personal humiliations and verbal slander was proven a rampant fact in the game and Out of game also, if you re-read the OPs post or have been paying attention lately. First of all. I am not your friend. I am not friends with people who are so socially twisted and selfish as to presume they have any mandate or prerogative to dictate to other people how they should live their autonomous lives. Second of all, you don't have a right to not be humiliated for your mistakes. No such right exists. Where did you get it into your head that such a right exists? Care to cite me a legal source that says so? Do you even know what "slander" means? "A false defamation (expressed in spoken words, signs, or gestures) which injures the character or reputation of the person defamed; distinguished from libel." It is VERBAL, as distinguished from libel, which is written. Which means NOTHING THAT IS WRITTEN can constitute slander. So where is this verbal slander you refer to happening? In private 3rd party voice chats? Those are no business of CCPs, and being in those channels is entirely on your own responsibility and recognisance. The law supercedes EVE. If someone violates the law, that is obviously an issue where another autonomous individuals rights have been breached by ANOTHER INDIVIDUALS ACTIONS, but NOT BY THAT OTHER INDIVIDUALS RIGHTS. If someone is verbally speaking slander about your actual PERSON, then by all means, go ahead and report them to your local police. CCP has absolutely zero responsibility for or control of what happens outside of the game. Are you so juvenile or uneducated that you cannot distinguish the difference in definitions of these concepts and terms? You are like a child talking about adult issues. You clearly have zero understand of what your rights actually are, and what those same rights actually are in others. Like a child whos idea of rights is limited to "i was nice and did as I was told to the best of my understanding, that means I now have the right to that piece of candy as a reward". How exactly are peoples rights being violated ingame? You say that There couldn't be more evidence of a premise" Be specific. Give me 3 examples.
This entire thread is like the: Salvos Being Wrong Show |

Jenn aSide
STK Scientific Initiative Mercenaries
5064
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:41:00 -
[498] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote:Malcanis wrote:Just for clarification:
I don't scam
I don't gank
I don't laugh at people who are bad enough that they get killed by somone who players as badly as me
I make a habit of helping new players
I do play in an NBSI alliance in 0.0 but I don't awox or spy
But
I want my choice to play that way to have meaning. If I were forced to play that way then my choice to do would mean nothing; I'd be just a clockwork orange, and I'd soon quit the game. Because the only reason that EVE Online, A Bad Game gets people to log in is because of the player interaction.
I accept that this choice means that I will sometimes be at a disadvantage. I am self secure enough to laugh off attempts by players who choose a different path to try and make me feel bad when those choices cost me. Generally I manage to turn the attempt back on them and have a laugh myself.
I am content that my choice has overall been to my advantage ingame: my word is good, there are many people in game ready to lend me ISK or assets (Bliss if you're reading this I'll trade the Rev back when the rugby is over and I log in OK?) but win or lose, my choices, my consequences, my responsibility: my game. what meaning or consequence does yanking have if the primary strategy involves throw away characters and in a game where a tank ship loss is never consequential? I don't care. It's my job to keep my ship safe when I'm in space. I accept the risk and try and learn from my errors when I lose. I've lost ships when I wasn't paying attention or just plain screwed up. I didn't whine about it because I'm a grown man.
This exchange demonstrates the divide between us (the Malcanis' ...Malcanii, whatever of the world) and them (The Kyperions and the rest of the cry squad on these forums). The one side as a sense of personal responsiblity and adulthood, the other, a sense of deep entitlement.
The responsible players (in game and out) tend to be happier, the irresponsible ones are mad at the world for not conforming to their desires 'just because'. At some point , all I can do is feel sorry for all these angry/sad people. |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14121
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:49:00 -
[499] - Quote
If malcanis was not a proper noun, the plural would probably be malcanes
eg: 1 testis, 2 testes
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14121
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:50:00 -
[500] - Quote
But it is, so it's Malcanises
I think a discussion about grammer would be a good and productive direction for this thread to take.
1 Kings 12:11
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Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14121
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:54:00 -
[501] - Quote
I think we should talk about people who, for reasons best known to themselves and Satan, Prince Of Lies use "boni" as the plural of bonus. As we should all know, the correct plural in English is "bonuses". A bonus is not a hippopotamus. They're not even the same ******* language for the love of God.
Should these people be banned or merely receive community sanction?
1 Kings 12:11
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Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
198
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:54:00 -
[502] - Quote
Salvos, lets create a hypothetical situation to see how you would handle your preached outlook on social interaction:
You are married. I live across town. When you go to work, I come to your house and repeatedly make sexual advances to your wife. This is something I want to do. I want to sleep with her. I understand you and she are married, but according to you, I'm not suppose to let your feelings on a matter dictate how I feel, so I continue to do so. It's not even against the law.
She begins sleeping with me. She understands she's married to you and you might be upset, but according to you, she's not suppose to really take your feelings into consideration when choosing how she wishes to act and feel.
Your wife and I are now engaged in really outrageous, degrading sexual acts with no regard of your personal feelings on the matter.
You come home from work. She wants me to sleep with her while you watch. I want you to watch, and know that I am much more capable of sexually pleasing your wife.
Would this be wrong? I mean, none of us are suppose to care what others think and feel, everything we do is suppose to be about ourselves.
Right? |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
83
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:56:00 -
[503] - Quote
Jenn aSide wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote:Malcanis wrote:Just for clarification:
I don't scam
I don't gank
I don't laugh at people who are bad enough that they get killed by somone who players as badly as me
I make a habit of helping new players
I do play in an NBSI alliance in 0.0 but I don't awox or spy
But
I want my choice to play that way to have meaning. If I were forced to play that way then my choice to do would mean nothing; I'd be just a clockwork orange, and I'd soon quit the game. Because the only reason that EVE Online, A Bad Game gets people to log in is because of the player interaction.
I accept that this choice means that I will sometimes be at a disadvantage. I am self secure enough to laugh off attempts by players who choose a different path to try and make me feel bad when those choices cost me. Generally I manage to turn the attempt back on them and have a laugh myself.
I am content that my choice has overall been to my advantage ingame: my word is good, there are many people in game ready to lend me ISK or assets (Bliss if you're reading this I'll trade the Rev back when the rugby is over and I log in OK?) but win or lose, my choices, my consequences, my responsibility: my game. what meaning or consequence does yanking have if the primary strategy involves throw away characters and in a game where a tank ship loss is never consequential? I don't care. It's my job to keep my ship safe when I'm in space. I accept the risk and try and learn from my errors when I lose. I've lost ships when I wasn't paying attention or just plain screwed up. I didn't whine about it because I'm a grown man. This exchange demonstrates the divide between us (the Malcanis' ...Malcanii, whatever of the world) and them (The Kyperions and the rest of the cry squad on these forums). The one side as a sense of personal responsiblity and adulthood, the other, a sense of deep entitlement. The responsible players (in game and out) tend to be happier, the irresponsible ones are mad at the world for not conforming to their desires 'just because'. At some point , all I can do is feel sorry for all these angry/sad people. you are an idiot. nowhere am I complaining about any loss I have ever suffered, just the idiot "pvp" crowd that don't want people to be able to shoot the bad guys |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10426
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:56:00 -
[504] - Quote
Kyperion wrote: the planet where that routinely happens on a daily basis.... see everything fom armored trucks to concealed carry laws.
Said ships were a disaster in both world wars. Almost all of them were sunk and the only a handful scored hits and almost all of those were on friendly subs. There are none active in any navy today or any navy for the last 70 years. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Malcanis
Vanishing Point. The Initiative.
14122
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:58:00 -
[505] - Quote
Kyperion wrote: you are an idiot. nowhere am I complaining about any loss I have ever suffered, just the idiot "pvp" crowd that don't want people to be able to shoot the bad guys
I live in 0.0, where you can shoot anyone you like for whatever reasons seem good to you.
Do you?
1 Kings 12:11
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10426
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Posted - 2014.03.15 19:58:00 -
[506] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:Salvos, lets create a hypothetical situation to see how you would handle your preached outlook on social interaction:
You are married. I live across town. When you go to work, I come to your house and repeatedly make sexual advances to your wife. This is something I want to do. I want to sleep with her. I understand you and she are married, but according to you, I'm not suppose to let your feelings on a matter dictate how I feel, so I continue to do so. It's not even against the law.
She begins sleeping with me. She understands she's married to you and you might be upset, but according to you, she's not suppose to really take your feelings into consideration when choosing how she wishes to act and feel.
Your wife and I are now engaged in really outrageous, degrading sexual acts with no regard of your personal feelings on the matter.
You come home from work. She wants me to sleep with her while you watch. I want you to watch, and know that I am much more capable of sexually pleasing your wife.
Would this be wrong? I mean, none of us are suppose to care what others think and feel, everything we do is suppose to be about ourselves.
Right?
His refusal to address this will mean that he understands he is wrong and wishes to avoid it to not have to weaken his stance, proving him wrong. Wrong, something he feels he can never be.
This has what to do with a PvP internet spaceship game? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Kyperion
General Washington's Irregulars
83
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:00:00 -
[507] - Quote
Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote: you are an idiot. nowhere am I complaining about any loss I have ever suffered, just the idiot "pvp" crowd that don't want people to be able to shoot the bad guys
I live in 0.0, where you can shoot anyone you like for whatever reasons seem good to you. Do you? no, because I'd rather not be a mindless cog in the wheel of a giant douche flavored blue donut. |

Divine Entervention
The Advent of Faith Against ALL Anomalies
198
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:00:00 -
[508] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Divine Entervention wrote:Salvos, lets create a hypothetical situation to see how you would handle your preached outlook on social interaction:
You are married. I live across town. When you go to work, I come to your house and repeatedly make sexual advances to your wife. This is something I want to do. I want to sleep with her. I understand you and she are married, but according to you, I'm not suppose to let your feelings on a matter dictate how I feel, so I continue to do so. It's not even against the law.
She begins sleeping with me. She understands she's married to you and you might be upset, but according to you, she's not suppose to really take your feelings into consideration when choosing how she wishes to act and feel.
Your wife and I are now engaged in really outrageous, degrading sexual acts with no regard of your personal feelings on the matter.
You come home from work. She wants me to sleep with her while you watch. I want you to watch, and know that I am much more capable of sexually pleasing your wife.
Would this be wrong? I mean, none of us are suppose to care what others think and feel, everything we do is suppose to be about ourselves.
Right?
His refusal to address this will mean that he understands he is wrong and wishes to avoid it to not have to weaken his stance, proving him wrong. Wrong, something he feels he can never be. This has what to do with a PvP internet spaceship game?
Morality
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10426
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:02:00 -
[509] - Quote
Divine Entervention wrote:
Morality
Its a PvP game, morality has nothing to do with it. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10426
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Posted - 2014.03.15 20:03:00 -
[510] - Quote
Kyperion wrote:Malcanis wrote:Kyperion wrote: you are an idiot. nowhere am I complaining about any loss I have ever suffered, just the idiot "pvp" crowd that don't want people to be able to shoot the bad guys
I live in 0.0, where you can shoot anyone you like for whatever reasons seem good to you. Do you? no, because I'd rather not be a mindless cog in the wheel of a giant douche flavored blue donut.
What blue donut?
And please, do tell us how people like me are mindless cogs. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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