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Moonlit Raid
State War Academy Caldari State
158
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:40:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Consider the following hypothetical scenario: What if I was to say to you, that transfer everything you have ingame to my character, or I will commit suicide. What would be your hypothetical reesponse?
I'd say find yourself some help you're in a bad place. |
Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
316
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:42:00 -
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Moonlit Raid wrote:I'd say find yourself some help you're in a bad place.
And that is more valid a response than any other because what exactly? |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4504
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:44:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Anslo wrote:Alright you seem to be incapable of reading so ill say it completely bluntly.
You talk big. I want you to back up your talk. Get all your ganker friends into a fleet, as many as you can. Then, fight me. I'm not saying come welp into me. It won't be as nearly as satisfying as shaming you and your tank fleet with my fleet of missionary and miners who decided we had enough of griefers and campers.
I am literally saying come at us bro. But since you aren't capable of rallying them, or unwilling, it seems you are intact proven a coward, as the rest of the griefers here. Can't shoot this that'd shoot back now can we?
Get rekt.
<3 As much as Anslo and I have had our disagreements, this is the correct response.
You're agreeing with me?...not sure how Im supposed to feel...ok hold on ill fix this.
CCP BAN GANKER THEY OP TOO STRONK PLS NERF OR BAN K THX
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
157
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:46:00 -
[424] - Quote
Hisec KM, pvp (or so they call it) for the pathetic. |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20116
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:55:00 -
[425] - Quote
Anslo wrote:You're agreeing with me?...not sure how Im supposed to feel...ok hold on ill fix this.
CCP BAN GANKER THEY OP TOO STRONK PLS NERF OR BAN K THX We'll see what the tally is after the fight, won't we? Of course, now you have an incentive to throw the match to prove a point. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Goe Rilla
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:56:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Goe Rilla wrote:False ?
Feel free to show me how so in my latter sentences, because so far I don't see it.
PS: You may refrain from superior-looking manner of speech, or you lose all credibility, haven't they taught you that at relativist law school ? ;) I already showed that you did not understand the nature of slander, and that you think rights exist, which do infact not. I was taught in law school (and in every school for that matter) that I should know the meanings of the words I use. Wherent you? There is nothing "superior" about the words or their meanings. Now, to illustrate my point: Give me one specific and real example of how your rights have been violated in EVEThis is not a rhetorical question.
No but there is something superior and deeply insecure about the individual that uses them, or chooses to scold those down that may not use them as well as he's expecting them to..
Anyway,
You wanted an example, and i wont give you one of my personal experience because I prefer to take my own precautions with this, especially here, and it is my right to want this for myself, wouldn't you say ?
So instead we'll take "The Mittani" one. That guy chose to be an absolute and "nonsensitive" a-hole to the other guy, and to go further with it in wide-open public.
Now I ask myself, what could the latter guy have done to deserve such a humiliating treatment ?
Ah yes, a suicide note...
And what could the former guy have done to think on the implications of his humiliating treatment ?
Just that, to think, and to empathize before the act, instead of serving us with a general round of a-holic, unwarranted and humiliating apathy.
You CAN evaluate and adapt your own rights according to others existing around you, and in fact, that's basis for all the things done with one another, be it something as simple as meeting the crowd walking down the street...
Your case to prove that rights remain on their own and tied up to the individual alone, couldn't be further from how reality works. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4504
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Posted - 2014.03.15 15:58:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Anslo wrote:You're agreeing with me?...not sure how Im supposed to feel...ok hold on ill fix this.
CCP BAN GANKER THEY OP TOO STRONK PLS NERF OR BAN K THX We'll see what the tally is after the fight, won't we? Of course, now you have an incentive to throw the match to prove a point. WHAT BET I DIDN'T MAKE A BET AND THROW THE MATCH YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ME TIPPIA.
But yeah he won't show up. They never do :(
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20116
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:00:00 -
[428] - Quote
Anslo wrote:WHAT BET I DIDN'T MAKE A BET AND THROW THE MATCH YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ME TIPPIA.
But yeah he won't show up. They never do :( Well, there's always that, which would prove another point, I suppose. Still, I thought it was a neat trap. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1066
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:00:00 -
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As i have said it some time ago, if you want to win this game, you have to stop playing. You will not lose any ISK, you will not lose your honor, your freedom, your time and your nerves, you will earn a peace of mind laying on the bed and thinking about your lovely wife or a cake you had earlier. _¦Å-æ-»¦Ñ¦¼-Ä_-¢-å¦ä_-½-»-å¦ÿ-ò-û¦¦ |
Erotica 1
Krypteia Operations CODE.
4311
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:02:00 -
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The Mittani is not a bad guy. But it is pretty sickening that there are certain people who want to bring up that event over and over. Give some thought to how keeping that issue alive affects the other person made famous by it. Let it go. See Bio for isk doubling rules. If you didn't read bio, chances are you funded those who did. |
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
316
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:03:00 -
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Words have meanings. If you don't know those meanings, you should not use the words. That has nothing to do with being superior. Its just the facts of life. You can point at a banana and call it an apple all you want, that does not make it an apple.
The Mittani did not violate anyone's rights. Nor has he been legally prosecuted on any charge for violating anyones rights as related to that incident.
Let me restate that so it is completely clear. He did not violate anyone's rights.
Now, I repeat the question:
Give me one specific and real example of how your rights have been violated in EVE Feel free to use alternate names to protect the identity of the involved individuals. |
Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4504
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:04:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Anslo wrote:WHAT BET I DIDN'T MAKE A BET AND THROW THE MATCH YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ME TIPPIA.
But yeah he won't show up. They never do :( Well, there's always that, which would prove another point, I suppose. Still, I thought it was a neat trap. TBH look at my kb. We clear the campers who trap others. If he showed up with a fleet, I'd say 0 at sun. We don't need a trap to rek them.
And then shadow cartel third parties and hot drops.
WELCOME TO LOWSEC LOLOLOLOL T_T
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:05:00 -
[433] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Tippia wrote:Anslo wrote:You're agreeing with me?...not sure how Im supposed to feel...ok hold on ill fix this.
CCP BAN GANKER THEY OP TOO STRONK PLS NERF OR BAN K THX We'll see what the tally is after the fight, won't we? Of course, now you have an incentive to throw the match to prove a point. WHAT BET I DIDN'T MAKE A BET AND THROW THE MATCH YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ME TIPPIA. But yeah he won't show up. They never do :(
I would point out that, when I offered to fight you one on one, you explicitly refused. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:09:00 -
[434] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Tippia wrote:Anslo wrote:You're agreeing with me?...not sure how Im supposed to feel...ok hold on ill fix this.
CCP BAN GANKER THEY OP TOO STRONK PLS NERF OR BAN K THX We'll see what the tally is after the fight, won't we? Of course, now you have an incentive to throw the match to prove a point. WHAT BET I DIDN'T MAKE A BET AND THROW THE MATCH YOU GOT NOTHIN ON ME TIPPIA. But yeah he won't show up. They never do :( I would point out that, when I offered to fight you one on one, you explicitly refused. And when I offered a fleet fight, cause a lot of bears want a piece of you, you changed topics because you are not capable. Step up, senpai. This isn't e honor crap.
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4504
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:11:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:14:00 -
[436] - Quote
Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk?
Why do you need a bunch of other people behind you before you feel safe enough to take a fight? Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Anslo
The Scope Gallente Federation
4504
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:16:00 -
[437] - Quote
Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk? Why do you need a bunch of other people behind you before you feel safe enough to take a fight? Why do you need a bunch of miners as targets before you're willing to fight?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:21:00 -
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Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk? Why do you need a bunch of other people behind you before you feel safe enough to take a fight? Why do you need a bunch of miners as targets before you're willing to fight?
I don't. I do that on an alt, among plenty of other things. I play just about every part of this game, this character lives in a wormhole, for example. I even still have a ninja salvager. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
333
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:30:00 -
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The community here is nothing. You wanna see ****, look at a game called "Mechwarrior Online".
THEIR subreddit split in two (lol) because there was a really **** moderator and apparent paid shill named Congzilla, who was stifling dissent so the Goons took over (mind you they created the subreddit in the first place, then left as the game was revealed to be more and more ****, and non Goons got mod positions - effectively "taking over") kicked him out, and decided there would be no more moderating comments or bans.
The defenders of all things MWO basically said, "FINE then we're taking our ball home" and threw a hissy fit known as hpgoutreach. One of the mods there made this massive rant on how he was taking all the content creators there and now the Reddit is split in two lol. http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Octoven
Phoenix Productions Headshot Gaming
353
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:30:00 -
[440] - Quote
I don't mind popping noobs but just one the off occasion or a few times a month. However, when you have tons of massively campaign driven events to do so...yeah I can probably agree that it is more of a detriment to the the game than anything. With that being said, I have been guilty of killing noobs and usually if I know they are a new players (less than 4 months) I typically will give them a bit of isk to replace anything I destroyed. For me it isn't about economic dominance of a noob who has little isk to begin with, I just popped a player without prejudice. The real question I suppose is how do you know if the player you are killing is a true noob or just an alt? If you are a vet player you know enough about noobs to pass as one. In which case once you turn your back and give that new player a break...he pounces. Eve is about survival at any cost, there are measures in place to protect noobs. The starting systems and if im not mistaken the systems surrounding these starting systems are pretty safe for noobs. If you are caught trying to lure one out to gank or such its a ban-able offense if im not mistaken.
If I am in a wh and a noob comes in there, I will pop him period. He received the warning just as I did when attempting to jump that CONCORD will not be around. As for ganking miners, generally noobs are flying ventures anyway. By the time they have got into retrievers, hulks, and macks they have some isk in their pocket and usually have been told by a corp member that you shouldn't fly what you cant afford to lose. Even if they have not been told, they still have the benefit of watching that miner in the belt next to them being burned.
There are more people than you can imagine in eve who give a noob isk for losing a ship, hell I still get isk from losing a ship 5 years later >.< not everyone in eve are complete dicks, but then again without them, the game would get pretty stagnate quickly.
As for the exit survey, CCP does ask when you cancel your sub why you did so. There are numerous categories and even one for custom. It would be nice if they released these statistics. I would be interested in knowing the majority cause of player loss. |
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Goe Rilla
24th Imperial Crusade Amarr Empire
5
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:30:00 -
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Salvos Rhoska wrote:Words have meanings. If you don't know those meanings, you should not use the words. That has nothing to do with being superior. Its just the facts of life. You can point at a banana and call it an apple all you want, that does not make it an apple. The Mittani did not violate anyone's rights. Nor has he been legally prosecuted on any charge for violating anyones rights as related to that incident. You may find his actions reprehensible according to your own moral beliefs, but those are subjective, and amount only to your own opinion. They are not binding on, nor supercede, the opinions of anyone else, including The Mittani or the suicider. Let me restate that so it is completely clear. He did not violate anyone's rights. So this example was not an example of someones rights being violated. Now, I repeat the question: Give me one specific and real example of how your rights have been violated in EVEFeel free to use alternate names to protect the identity of the involved individuals.
In the real world, Bullying is considered an offense, and cyber-bullying increasingly so these days.
Naturally, the offensive liability of The Mittani's actions never saw light of day as his victim never pressed any complaints, and so it remains based on opinions since then...
So it's a very easy case to dismiss and use for those with an agenda to push on for more apathetic retardation.
However, if people started making a habit of calling their lawyers to check on the liability of some of the **** they go through in this game or the next, a tsunami of charges would come pouring in, without a doubt, and certain people would finally start to STFU... |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
333
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:31:00 -
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Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk? Why do you need a bunch of other people behind you before you feel safe enough to take a fight?
I thought that was how combat worked in this game? Theres no bushido code in 0.0... http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Antisocial Malkavian
Antisocial Malkavians
333
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:33:00 -
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Goe Rilla wrote:Salvos Rhoska wrote:Words have meanings. If you don't know those meanings, you should not use the words. That has nothing to do with being superior. Its just the facts of life. You can point at a banana and call it an apple all you want, that does not make it an apple. The Mittani did not violate anyone's rights. Nor has he been legally prosecuted on any charge for violating anyones rights as related to that incident. You may find his actions reprehensible according to your own moral beliefs, but those are subjective, and amount only to your own opinion. They are not binding on, nor supercede, the opinions of anyone else, including The Mittani or the suicider. Let me restate that so it is completely clear. He did not violate anyone's rights. So this example was not an example of someones rights being violated. Now, I repeat the question: Give me one specific and real example of how your rights have been violated in EVEFeel free to use alternate names to protect the identity of the involved individuals. In the real world, Bullying is considered an offense, and cyber-bullying increasingly so these days. Naturally, the offensive liability of The Mittani's actions never saw light of day as his victim never pressed any complaints, and so it remains based on opinions since then...
Cyber bullying is actually illegal in many states. I guess you wont be able to play EVE in those states lol
http://gizmodo.com/5913381/season-your-food-with-salt-from-real-human-tears
you will be harvested |
Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
3126
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:34:00 -
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Antisocial Malkavian wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:Anslo wrote:Kaarous Aldurald wrote:
Like I said, step out behind the coat tails of so many others.
Get more coat tails. We're just pubbies. Why can't you rally other gankers to back up your big talk? Why do you need a bunch of other people behind you before you feel safe enough to take a fight? I thought that was how combat worked in this game? Theres no bushido code in 0.0...
You're right, there isn't. But if you're going to call one person out on the forums and then literally refuse to not bring a fleet, it does kinda make you a *****. Not posting on my main, and loving it.-á Because free speech.-á
Psychotic Monk for CSM9.
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Salvos Rhoska
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
316
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:35:00 -
[445] - Quote
Goe Rilla wrote:In the real world, Bullying is considered an offense, and cyber-bullying increasingly so these days.
Naturally, the offensive liability of The Mittani's actions never saw light of day as his victim never pressed any complaints, and so it remains based on opinions since then...
However, if people started making a habit of calling their lawyers to check on the liability of some of the **** they go through in this game or the next, a tsunami of charges would come pouring in, without a doubt.
There was no liability. Nobodies rights where violated.
Infact the moral, and in some sense legal, liability rests on the suicider for trying to blackmail someone else by threatening to take their own life if they did not comply to their demands.
You can't just go up to people and demand them to do what you want, or you will kill yourself.
There is no case against The Mittani on this issue. That is why there was no prosecution.
But returning to topic, I repeat the question a third time to you:
Give me one specific and real example of how your rights have been violated in EVE |
Bagrat Skalski
Poseidaon
1066
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:43:00 -
[446] - Quote
If you are about to pod or after you gank someone, wish him good luck next time, with smile, is that so much to ask? These people are certainly worth these words. _¦Å-æ-»¦Ñ¦¼-Ä_-¢-å¦ä_-½-»-å¦ÿ-ò-û¦¦ |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10420
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:46:00 -
[447] - Quote
Goe Rilla wrote:
In the real world, Bullying is considered an offense, and cyber-bullying increasingly so these days.
Naturally, the offensive liability of The Mittani's actions never saw light of day as his victim never pressed any complaints, and so it remains based on opinions since then...
So it's a very easy case to dismiss and use for those with an agenda to push on for more apathetic retardation.
However, if people started making a habit of calling their lawyers to check on the liability of some of the **** they go through in this gameworld or the next, a tsunami of charges would most likely come pouring in, and certain people would finally start to stfu in defense of rampant retardation...
Why are you playing a PvP game if you don't like the fact that PvP can happen to you? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
10420
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:48:00 -
[448] - Quote
Bagrat Skalski wrote:If you are about to pod or after you gank someone, wish him good luck next time, with smile, is that so much to ask? These people are certainly worth these words.
When ganking there is little time for such things. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Jonah Gravenstein
Machiavellian Space Bastards
17103
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:51:00 -
[449] - Quote
baltec1 wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:If you are about to pod or after you gank someone, wish him good luck next time, with smile, is that so much to ask? These people are certainly worth these words. When ganking there is little time for such things. It's also likely to be seen as adding insult to injury, and cause more threads like this.
Psychotic Monk for CSM 9 |
Oraac Ensor
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
445
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Posted - 2014.03.15 16:53:00 -
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Victor Andall wrote:You're equating a niche of players, however broad, to the entire community. No, he is quite specifically NOT doing that.
Protip: always read the OP properly before posting in a thread.
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