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Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.04.30 16:24:00 - [1] Territorial Alliance Map - Latest Update 2006.04.27 Latest Version: Latest Pending Changes: None. Older Versions: 12.04.108, 23.03.108, 06.03.108, 20.02.108, 04.02.108, 17.01.108, 05.01.108, 20.12.107, 02.12.107, 14.11.107, 25.10.107, 06.10.107, 22.09.107, 13.09.107, 03.09.107, 22.08.107, 16.08.107, 12.08.107, 08.08.107, 27.07.107, 25.07.107, 22.07.107, 20.07.107, 19.07.107, 14.07.107, 07.07.107. ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.04.30 16:25:00 - [2] Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map. 2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar. 3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban. 4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. We, The EVE Forum Moderator Team, believe that the map is a good resource for the community. We acknowledge the fact that any map can never be completely accurate, but as long as it shows the approximate locations of alliances and dangerous war spots, it does fill its purpose. We support the map by making it easily accessible and easily updated. However, we do not take any responsability for the content of the map. Previous Authors: + Kalshrith Maps: 2003.10.02 - Kalshrith 2003.10.10 - Kalshrith 2003.10.28 - Kalshrith 2003.11.11 - Kalshrith 2004.04.24 - Kalshrith + DP Mephisto Maps: 2004.03.07 ~ 2004.09.02 + Quarath Maps: 2004.05.08 ~ 2005.02.02 + Righteous Fury Maps: 2005.03.02 ~ 2005.06.21 + Joshua Foiritain Maps: 2005.07.13 ~ present + 2006 April Fools Day Map To all alliances: Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. I am sure the mapmaker would prefer the clarity. It is also acceptable for you to eve-mail the mapmaker in game. No arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. And please display your corp and alliance to avoid misunderstandings. If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. This is not a discussion thread, follow the rules above. ___


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.04.30 16:35:00 - [3] Thread reopened. ___

Blood Gutter	Posted - 2006.04.30 17:23:00 - [4] This is not terribly important, but the "April Fool's" link points to the current map. I was kinda interested in seeing it...

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.04.30 17:28:00 - [5] Originally by: Blood Gutter This is not terribly important, but the "April Fool's" link points to the current map. I was kinda interested in seeing it... That is my fault entirely, Mr. Foiritain can post the link here and I will replace it ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool

Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.05.01 11:55:00 - [6] Mr Foiritain, The H74 system (factory) in also now under contention as well as 3BK in Querious. I would therefore like to suggest that all systems south of 9cg be shown as contested space in that region. Thanks Hans Roaming President Huzzah Federation Be all you can be, join the Huzzah Armed Forces today!
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.05.01 18:30:00 - [7] Originally by: Blood Gutter This is not terribly important, but the "April Fool's" link points to the current map. I was kinda interested in seeing it... Will prolly upload it tonight. PS CCP; Where be my Royalties? ------- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.01 20:17:00 - [8] Originally by: Hans Roaming Mr Foiritain, The H74 system (factory) in also now under contention as well as 3BK in Querious. I would therefore like to suggest that all systems south of 9cg be shown as contested space in that region. Thanks Hans Roaming This is aggreed upon by Stain alliance, with a few exceptions. 3BK is no longer contested. It is under full control of Smash Alliance. No FIX POS in system and any hostiles are forced from the area. H74 has FIX pos into reinforced mode, while the Allies put up our own POS. Therefore we request that the 3BK contested marker be removed and be placed under the ownership of Smash Alliance and the H74 area become contested. shivan SA diplo
Nacona	Posted - 2006.05.02 19:16:00 - [9] With the gaining of Soverienty of the CZD station in Deklien, Sparta Alliance now officially lays claim to the system and the northern most constellation of Deklein as per our agreememnt with NFC who hold the remainder of Deklein .. Thanks . Nacona Executive / Sparta Alliance
Golgoth Khan	Posted - 2006.05.02 23:48:00 - [10] FLA is currently engaged in long term conflict with NFC in Deklein.

Hugo Kaviene	Posted - 2006.05.03 07:11:00 - [11] Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 03/05/2006 07:14:44 Mr. Foiritain: Red Alliance currently holds all three stations in Cache, and has held continuously since last major attacks by LV/CHIMP/V coalition (I believe three weeks ago). regards, Hugo Kaviene, RA Chairman ---------------------------- I'm Deng Xiaoping for your Mao Zedong
Chowdown	Posted - 2006.05.03 09:30:00 - [12] Originally by: Hugo Kaviene Edited by: Hugo Kaviene on 03/05/2006 07:16:41 Mr. Foiritain: Red Alliance currently holds all three stations in Cache, and has held continuously since last major attacks by LV/CHIMP/V coalition (I believe three weeks ago). I will be the official contact from RA with regards to our territorial information. Rest of RA members please refrain from posting. regards, Hugo Kaviene, RA Chairman Although no attempt on the stations has been made of late, the pressure is still heavily on RA in this area. I believe Josh's map is correct for the moment. Anyway ................ soonÖ Originally by: Ginger Magician They always have been lamers and dishonourable pvpers. [green]Please resize image to a ma
Peoke	Posted - 2006.05.03 13:43:00 - [13] agreed 3bk has been held for close to 2 weeks now with out even raids from fix 9cg is still thiers for now and h7 is falling as huzzah and stain have stated. plz ammend the map to these changes and if fix contest this then well hope they prove that in the area
Rheinkraft	Posted - 2006.05.03 18:49:00 - [14] hi Joshua , can you also add Huff Technologies alliance against bob in aridia please, we are -10 with bob and have held the kor-azore entrance of aridia for quite some time. Many Thanks
heruloka	Posted - 2006.05.03 21:46:00 - [15] Originally by: Rheinkraft hi Joshua , can you also add Huff Technologies alliance against bob in aridia please, we are -10 with bob and have held the kor-azore entrance of aridia for quite some time. Many Thanks one question. do you want to be added on the VC, IMP side or have it turned into a threesome?
KIATolon	Posted - 2006.05.05 11:03:00 - [16] Lower syndicate is no longer contested. ____________________________________________ BOS are recruiting
Remedial	Posted - 2006.05.05 15:23:00 - [17] Originally by: KIATolon Lower syndicate is no longer contested. To elaborate on this, no other alliances or corps have any serious claim to space in Lower Syndicate besides OSS, 3FA and TCC, who are all allied. Galactic Aurora disbanded, Supremacy have left for other parts of Eve, NBSI are few and far between since the POS in S-U8 was destroyed last week, and Black Reign Syndicate cannot really challenge 2300 pilots from OSS/3FA/TCC for control over any part of the area. We are occupying and partitioning Y9G and UTKS as we speak, and we are firmly in control of the area's mineral and complex resources. Please list the area as uncontested. The remaining pirates cannot hold the area with any real meaning.
Drachenlord	Posted - 2006.05.08 23:37:00 - [18] Mr Foiritain..... I would say that, Deklein should be labelled as a warzone... Lately, there have been forces from NFC, Sparta, FLA, Burn Eden, Alektrophobia and others all fighting in the region. To leave the region labelled as only in the control of NFC at this point is not quite accurate, even though NFC and their ally Sparta do control the stations, they do not have the region all tied up. -Drachenlord -------------------------------------------------
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.09 06:35:00 - [19] ASCN will be taking over Paragon Soul. Pls pardon our dust, we're renovating
Shin Ra	Posted - 2006.05.09 10:12:00 - [20] Originally by: Drachenlord Mr Foiritain..... I would say that, Deklein should be labelled as a warzone... Lately, there have been forces from NFC, Sparta, FLA, Burn Eden, Alektrophobia and others all fighting in the region. To leave the region labelled as only in the control of NFC at this point is not quite accurate, even though NFC and their ally Sparta do control the stations, they do not have the region all tied up. -Drachenlord I disagree. There is no war. Leave it as it is for now.

Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.09 10:51:00 - [21] Originally by: Krapz ASCN will be taking over Paragon Soul. Pls pardon our dust, we're renovating Well, first do it, THEN post. oh my... --------------------------------
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.09 13:52:00 - [22] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz ASCN will be taking over Paragon Soul. Pls pardon our dust, we're renovating Well, first do it, THEN post. oh my... First off Woody, wtf does this have to do with you? Second, it's already happening.
Fred0	Posted - 2006.05.09 14:57:00 - [23] Edited by: Fred0 on 09/05/2006 14:57:59 Well wtf, your post didn't say if you wanted sole ownership, contested status or anything. And seriously to two days in come and spout this crap on the forums is just amazing for someone who's been in the game as long as you. Not even SA request map changes based on monday to tuesday. If the map was based on two day invasions there wouldn't be 15-20 days between each version. Get the bloody sovereignity over and done with and I'm sure you don't even have to post to be acknowledged. I know that's what happened for us anyway. EDIT: I know it's not my business either but when it gets retarded enough everybody has an obligation to stand up and say sod off. ---
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.09 15:04:00 - [24] On a separate but related issue, ASCN was up North serving it up to all Northern forces that showed up in Deklain, Fade and Pure Blind for well over a month. We didn't even get a war marker when requested. Pardon me if I don't have a lot of faith in the map-making system. H8-ZTO will be ours, we are already claiming sov with towers in the system. This war is over, we are simply going through the motions. Tribal Souls has 0 will to actually fight. The 200+ ASCN force in the area should be an indicator that we are there and fighting. The difference is... We are staying. I am announcing that publically, so that there is no confusion as to our intentions. The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right?
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.09 15:23:00 - [25] Edited by: DB Preacher on 09/05/2006 15:24:01 Then for the moment, you say "ASCN are contesting Paragon Soul for these reasons.... e.g. taking stations, putting up pos in systems x,y,z and removing x,y,z, enemy pos". If the takeover is completed as you except then you say "ASCN are in control of Paragon Soul for these reasons.... e.g. no enemy pos, no enemy stations, minor enemy infestation." That all makes it alot easier to comprehend and leaves no room for mistakes. ;) You're first post was completely open to suggestion. Coz like, "BoB will be taking over Eve." doesn't mean I'll get the whole map contested :p dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.10 01:37:00 - [26] Edited by: Krapz on 10/05/2006 01:42:35 reserved for future flaming.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.10 06:29:00 - [27] Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you --------------------------------
Lori Gendo	Posted - 2006.05.10 08:10:00 - [28] Edited by: Lori Gendo on 10/05/2006 08:11:09 Edited by: Lori Gendo on 10/05/2006 08:10:45 Originally by: DB Preacher BoB will be taking over Eve I knew it from the get go. Just give me a few days to pack me things up :)
pshepherd	Posted - 2006.05.10 08:48:00 - [29] Yes there are a HUGE number of ASCN all over paragon, but give it a few days first
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.10 14:10:00 - [30] Originally by: pshepherd Yes there are a HUGE number of ASCN all over paragon, but give it a few days first Excellent point. Seeing how after today, you will only have 2 stations left to dock at, out of the 5 you started with a few days ago, it should be interesting to see what the coming days bring.

Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.10 14:11:00 - [31] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now?
Leno	Posted - 2006.05.10 15:55:00 - [32] Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? I don't think it really counts as disbanding if you immedietly reform a larger alliance and then take over another region and beat back 2 other alliances? Right now i am restraining myself of making some remarks to your alliances past (Xetic?) as it isnt important to the thread or discussion. Next time maybe you should try restraining yourself somewhat? P.S - sorry had to include the (xetic?) to make it more clear... --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Geralt Rivia	Posted - 2006.05.10 18:21:00 - [33] Originally by: Krapz ASCN will be taking over Paragon Soul. Pls pardon our dust, we're renovating Pride goes before a fall.
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.10 21:28:00 - [34] Originally by: Geralt Rivia Originally by: Krapz ASCN will be taking over Paragon Soul. Pls pardon our dust, we're renovating Pride goes before a fall. Or proceeds a slaughter; really depends on how well placed ones pride is. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.10 21:46:00 - [35] Originally by: Leno Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? I don't think it really counts as disbanding if you immedietly reform a larger alliance and then take over another region and beat back 2 other alliances? Right now i am restraining myself of making some remarks to your alliances past (Xetic?) as it isnt important to the thread or discussion. Next time maybe you should try restraining yourself somewhat? P.S - sorry had to include the (xetic?) to make it more clear... Then I'll pretty much put the same attitude your direction as well Leno. This territorial issue is between ASCN and Tribal Souls, and has nothing to do with Woody, or you. That pretty much sums it up tbh. The topic had nothing to do with you guys, which is why I bit Woody's head off. Same goes for you tbh. You don't see me posting in any of your Northern affairs threads... ASCN now owns stations in H8-ZTO, 3PPT-9, and MP5-KR.
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.10 22:54:00 - [36] Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 10/05/2006 22:56:22 Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? That was right before and i leave my corp for holidays when I want, mister. Very weak attempt at discrediting me, try harder next time. I stand by my word, kill TS and take their stations. I dont have any doubts that u will manage it btw. but first comes the action, then the boasting. EDIT: and yes, this has something to do with all alliances, ther should be a certain agenda to which all should obey according official claims, no matter where they are. --------------------------------
Truth Serum	Posted - 2006.05.11 01:11:00 - [37] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 10/05/2006 22:56:22 Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? That was right before and i leave my corp for holidays when I want, mister. Very weak attempt at discrediting me, try harder next time. I stand by my word, kill TS and take their stations. I dont have any doubts that u will manage it btw. but first comes the action, then the boasting. EDIT: and yes, this has something to do with all alliances, ther should be a certain agenda to which all should obey according official claims, no matter where they are. You're just bitter the hobbits wouldnt go along with your not so sekrit plans.
Krapz	Posted - 2006.05.11 01:50:00 - [38] Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 10/05/2006 22:56:22 Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? That was right before and i leave my corp for holidays when I want, mister. Very weak attempt at discrediting me, try harder next time. I stand by my word, kill TS and take their stations. I dont have any doubts that u will manage it btw. but first comes the action, then the boasting. EDIT: and yes, this has something to do with all alliances, ther should be a certain agenda to which all should obey according official claims, no matter where they are. I understand. All I'm saying is, make the dang thing red. I don't much care what the community thinks of this, or if the community clearly understands where we stand on a day to day status of territorial control. In the end, it all ends up in flames and point of view. So all I was requesting was, make it big and red, and make it shaded in 2 colors. ASCN will be (not already has) moving into Paragon Soul. Like a big candy apple. Make it pretty.
arjun	Posted - 2006.05.12 06:23:00 - [39] the map threath was closed by the mods for a long time because of stupid discussions going on here. would be nice if we could keep the threath to the anouncements of the alliances. discussions can go on elsewhere they just have no place here. the map maker is quite capable to distinguish fact from fiction. especially people, which are not directly involved in a territorial konflict might think about keeping their fingers from the keys.
Marsha11	Posted - 2006.05.12 20:06:00 - [40] Two quick things. 1. Our name is Alektorophobia not Alektrophobia (yes look closely and there is a difference) 2. Although the three corps that are in 'Alektorophobia' consider themselves in an alliance it is actually not official. So to be listed on the map as one alliance fighting another is something we happen to find quite cool. End

Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.13 05:43:00 - [41] Originally by: Truth Serum Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Edited by: Cmd Woodlouse on 10/05/2006 22:56:22 Originally by: Krapz Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Originally by: Krapz The intent is to take over Paragon Soul, either with these stupid little towers, or by simply annihilating everything non-ASCN. Ya know, OLD SCHOOL. You DO remember how THAT works, right? Fine, then post ur claim when ur done with ur "old school" campaign. And i remember quite well how that works, we saw that clearly in EC when BOB left you Was that before or after you disbanded? I can't remember. Welcome back to CE btw, how many tours of duty is this now? That was right before and i leave my corp for holidays when I want, mister. Very weak attempt at discrediting me, try harder next time. I stand by my word, kill TS and take their stations. I dont have any doubts that u will manage it btw. but first comes the action, then the boasting. EDIT: and yes, this has something to do with all alliances, ther should be a certain agenda to which all should obey according official claims, no matter where they are. You're just bitter the hobbits wouldnt go along with your not so sekrit plans. Are u are new fanboi? i seriously dont even know what ur talking about --------------------------------
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.14 12:11:00 - [42] Cmd Woodlouse - While i respect u as the commander of ur alliance you are nto infact grand master of the map - You do not decide what people can and cannot ask for. So in accordance with forum rules on this thread. Stop posting and counter posting on others simply because u dont agree with them. Josh will deem what needs to be changed and do things his way Lost Dawn Technologies - We Kinda Rock! - Recruitment Open :D

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.14 12:32:00 - [43] Everyone that posted off topic has a few hours to edit their own post, before this thread gets moderated. ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool

ORTORTORT	Posted - 2006.05.14 13:50:00 - [44] Request for changes on latest version whenever that may be; 995 and M53 in Cache are offically Ghosts of Retribution territory, including the stations (UCC owns sovereignty on 995 and runs it, but, offically, they are operating in our space). N7-BIY in Insmother is also Ghosts of Retribution territory, however it is soon to be handed over to Knights of the South, come the end of Red Alliance.
Serenity Steele	Posted - 2006.05.15 15:41:00 - [45] Here is a link to an Animated Territorial Map (.GIF @ 1.6Mb). I use this personally and thought it might be useful to the wider eve-community. If the map-maker is interested, I'd be happy to update the animation when new maps are posted. The easiest way to read the animated version is to focus on one alliance or area, and see how it changes over time. The animation replays after 30 second pause
Commander Rackham	Posted - 2006.05.15 17:11:00 - [46] Serenity - Any sort of speed control, especially frame by frame, would be awsome...even more so if you could include the previous generations of map on the same scale.
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.05.16 01:34:00 - [47] ISS can be removed from war marker 4, as posted a few days ago CC/CDC and ISS now share positive standings. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Drunken Claptrap	Posted - 2006.05.16 11:54:00 - [48] FLA now hold the station in 3JN-Y in Deklein Draft Beer Not People
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.16 15:40:00 - [49] Originally by: Drunken Claptrap FLA now hold the station in 3JN-Y in Deklein Pure fluke from what i hear Been Playing EVE 6 Months And No One Pimped My Sig :( Lost Dawn Technologies Is Recruiting :D
Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.16 16:56:00 - [50] Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Originally by: Drunken Claptrap FLA now hold the station in 3JN-Y in Deklein Pure fluke from what i hear They do hold it :/ accidently jumped into their bubblecamp yesterday.

Leno	Posted - 2006.05.16 19:33:00 - [51] Originally by: Serenity Steele Here is a link to an Animated Territorial Map (.GIF @ 1.6Mb). I use this personally and thought it might be useful to the wider eve-community. If the map-maker is interested, I'd be happy to update the animation when new maps are posted. The easiest way to read the animated version is to focus on one alliance or area, and see how it changes over time. The animation replays after 30 second pause That is really cool, just needs to be slower as it's hard to take in all the changes. Weren't kidding when you said you have to focus on a small part of the map at a time --------------- RIP - Smoske, My Friend
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.05.16 20:38:00 - [52] Originally by: Hoshi ISS can be removed from war marker 4, as posted a few days ago CC/CDC and ISS now share positive standings. Good point, ill go and fix that, ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Trinity Trixx	Posted - 2006.05.16 20:54:00 - [53] Edited by: Trinity Trixx on 16/05/2006 21:06:38 Alektorophobia have suspended hostilities towards The Big Blue. Alektorophobia are currently in Deklein aiding Freelancer Alliance, but do not wish to claim sovreignty. As such, Freelancer Alliance has claimed sovreignty over 3JN-Y. Trin
Nanotech	Posted - 2006.05.16 23:56:00 - [54] I would like to suggest that BOB owning all of fountain is wrong. They should be at the very southern tip, xeles should show up in core of fountain, and VC should show up on the northern part.
Hestia III	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:31:00 - [55] Originally by: Trinity Trixx Edited by: Trinity Trixx on 16/05/2006 21:15:48 Edited by: Trinity Trixx on 16/05/2006 21:06:38 Alektorophobia have suspended hostilities towards The Big Blue. Alektorophobia are currently in Deklein aiding Freelancer Alliance. As such, Freelancer Alliance has claimed sovereignty over 3JN-Y. Trin Err Is Alektrophobia an alliance? Or can anyone just make a informal alliance and shoot other alliances, cuz then burn eden would have to be in conflict / markered in every alliance space too.... no difference reall Josh. Doubt it will matter much. my 2 isk

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:33:00 - [56] Originally by: Nanotech I would like to suggest snip Please look up above at the rules post in this thread. I will quote myself here: Originally by: Abdalion 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. and Originally by: Abdalion If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. I am quite sure that your listed corp "Aliastra" didn't make you their diplomat without a front-page news brief. Thanks! ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:36:00 - [57] Originally by: Golgoth Khan snip is currently engaged in long term conflict snip . Please look up above at the rules post in this thread. I will quote myself here: Originally by: Abdalion 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. and Originally by: Abdalion If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. I am quite sure that your listed corp "Republic Military School" didn't make you their diplomat without a front-page news brief. Thanks! ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:39:00 - [58] Originally by: ORTORTORT Request for changes on latest version whenever that may be; snip . Please look up above at the rules post in this thread. I will quote myself here: Originally by: Abdalion 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. and Originally by: Abdalion If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. I am quite sure that your listed corp "Republic Military School" didn't make you their diplomat without a front-page news brief. Thanks! ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:46:00 - [59] Originally by: Hestia III Err snip . Please look up above at the rules post in this thread. I will quote myself here: Originally by: Abdalion 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. and Originally by: Abdalion If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. I am quite sure that your listed corp "Imperial Shipment" didn't make you their diplomat without a front-page news brief. Thanks! PS: Nice avatar, are you busy next weekend? ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.17 03:52:00 - [60] Originally by: Serenity Steele Here is a link to an Animated Territorial Map (.GIF @ 1.6Mb). I use this personally and thought it might be useful to the wider eve-community. If the map-maker is interested, I'd be happy to update the animation when new maps are posted. The easiest way to read the animated version is to focus on one alliance or area, and see how it changes over time. The animation replays after 30 second pause Mr. Foiritain, if you would like me to include this resource in the second post in this thread and Ms. Steele has no objections, I will be pleased to do so. ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool


Shatson	Posted - 2006.05.17 04:08:00 - [61] BOB does not own all of fountain, this is terribly inaccurate. They have 6 POS in fountain, 4 of which are in the southern tip, 1 in the north west, and 1 in the mid east - mideast all they use is for the complex. Xeles has Sov. in core fountain, bob should show on the southern tip, and VC should show in the north, they control that area almost 24/7. Thats how fountain should read.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.17 04:22:00 - [62] Originally by: Shatson BOB does not own all of fountain, this is terribly inaccurate. They have 6 POS in fountain, 4 of which are in the southern tip, 1 in the north west, and 1 in the mid east - mideast all they use is for the complex. Xeles has Sov. in core fountain, bob should show on the southern tip, and VC should show in the north, they control that area almost 24/7. Thats how fountain should read. Hi Lame alt. VC don't wish to control any space as stated many times by thier leaders. Xelas are in Fountain but we maintain control of the region as agreed by both parties. That's how fountain reads. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto Drop by and say hi in Reikoku Forums.
BoinKlasik	Posted - 2006.05.17 06:07:00 - [63] I guess its pretty obvious but ill post it here anyway so i can feel special. ASCN/AXE are now in control of Paragon Soul. doh, I broke my edited sig :/ cries this signature was lacking pink, I'll provide it for you. There. Looks better doesn't it? -Eris Fixed it for you. Oh, btw, yarr! ~kieron Didn't I tell you? The damsel moved in with me, we're having a great time. - Wrangler The damsel may not be distressed any more, but how many times does the informant have to be silenced before he gets the message? - Cortes
Graalum	Posted - 2006.05.17 06:15:00 - [64] the april fools day map now directs to the current map.
fuze	Posted - 2006.05.17 08:17:00 - [65] Q: Where is 1? Empire?
Porter Hadlend	Posted - 2006.05.17 11:53:00 - [66] I'd recomend removing the conflict between TBB and Alektrophobia during the next map change, simply because there "contract" (whatever that means) seems to have ended. -------------- Porter Hadlend Pround Member of The Shattered Star Confederation Gaming better since 1997.
savantor	Posted - 2006.05.17 20:11:00 - [67] Would it be too much to ask for the map to be enlarged to a size that is easier to read? Even zooming in the font is small. http://killboard.eve-imperium.org/signatures/2/char_7283.jpg
Tharim	Posted - 2006.05.18 12:30:00 - [68] Originally by: savantor Would it be too much to ask for the map to be enlarged to a size that is easier to read? Even zooming in the font is small. Open the map in your browser. Hover your mouse over the pcicture. It will then appear a icon in the lower right corner of the map. Click that icon. ;) www.eve-files.com/media/0602/CCP_tharim.gif[/IMG] Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 kbs, ty - Cortes
Marsha11	Posted - 2006.05.18 13:47:00 - [69] Edited by: Marsha11 on 18/05/2006 13:47:36 Number 9 Should be deleted. Number 13 should read NFC & Sparta V's FLA, Alektorophobia & Burn Eden End
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.18 15:34:00 - [70] Originally by: Marsha11 Edited by: Marsha11 on 18/05/2006 13:47:36 Number 9 Should be deleted. Number 13 should read NFC & Sparta V's FLA, Alektorophobia & Burn Eden End On a serious note, why dont u just have BE as part fo ur alliance since u all work together anyway Been Playing EVE 6 Months And No One Pimped My Sig :( Lost Dawn Technologies Is Recruiting :D

Crucifier	Posted - 2006.05.19 13:00:00 - [71] Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Originally by: Marsha11 Edited by: Marsha11 on 18/05/2006 13:47:36 Number 9 Should be deleted. Number 13 should read NFC & Sparta V's FLA, Alektorophobia & Burn Eden End On a serious note, why dont u just have BE as part fo ur alliance since u all work together anyway That has got to be one of the most stupid comments. Maybe because be don't want to?
Mrmuttley	Posted - 2006.05.19 21:48:00 - [72] Edited by: Mrmuttley on 19/05/2006 21:48:37 Number 7 has little meaning anymore None of the big alliances are taking any apparent interest in Aridia. The locals including Apocalypse Enterprises continue to pirate and fight each other but that could be said of any 0.1 to 0.4 area /edit: spelling ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ I am Dyslexic of Borg. Your ass will be laminated.
Droewa	Posted - 2006.05.20 21:24:00 - [73] might bea little late but FIX was fighting smash, Huzzah, SA, VOX, and IMP
Avernus	Posted - 2006.05.21 01:01:00 - [74] Originally by: Droewa might bea little late but FIX was fighting smash, Huzzah, SA, VOX, and IMP Damn you're being slow off the mark today! FIX has lost the Querious stations; which are currently being fought over by the above listed alliances vs BOB. We'll perhaps make an announcement of intent at a later time on behalf of FIX... just not today. Ex-JCoS, Ex-Diplomat, Ex-Councilor, Ex-CEO (posts no longer represent Firmus Ixion)
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.05.22 01:24:00 - [75] Please note that Alektrophobia have move back to out home in curse at s1dp until further notice we are not on ops and we are on R&R break Please also note FLA now hold 3jn and the area is now not at war thanks to ALEK & NFC & FLA reaching peace agreements.. "What i have posted Is what i think and in everyway relates to what my alliance feels, it does not however effect my real life or make me want to warp scramble my sister and blow her head off
Ryle	Posted - 2006.05.24 14:21:00 - [76] Small correction, though you'll probably want to verify this with The Big Blue: BB only claims the IPS constellation of Geminate, which constists of 6 star systems--you have a much larger area designated as their territory. ------------------------------- -If you're going through Hell... Keep going.-
Asfa	Posted - 2006.05.28 15:48:00 - [77] Number 13, NFC and Sparta vs. FLA has been resolved. Other than removing the combat marker, no changes should be necessary.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.28 18:24:00 - [78] Hi, BoB are officially contesting Querious with the intention to take it over as our own. Official Statement of intent Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:15:00 - [79] Originally by: DB Preacher Hi, BoB are officially contesting Querious with the intention to take it over as our own. Official Statement of intent Thanks, dbp Only 9CG should be vontested in any way atm, as BoB have no sov in Q at this time.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.05.28 20:25:00 - [80] Originally by: shivan Originally by: DB Preacher Hi, BoB are officially contesting Querious with the intention to take it over as our own. Official Statement of intent Thanks, dbp Only 9CG should be vontested in any way atm, as BoB have no sov in Q at this time. We are stating our intentions, as per the rules of this thread. Stain Alliance also do not hold sovereignty in any Querious system, so what's your point?

Fred0	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:02:00 - [81] Incidentally, where have those rules gone? There used to be a listing for how it worked in npc and conq station regions separately. Personally I think it's pretty retarded to get acknowledged on the map with a statement of intention as both ASCN and now BOB has tried in a conq station region. Just take it over and there will be no doubt. ---
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.28 21:27:00 - [82] Edited by: DB Preacher on 28/05/2006 21:28:02 Originally by: Fred0 Incidentally, where have those rules gone? There used to be a listing for how it worked in npc and conq station regions separately. Personally I think it's pretty retarded to get acknowledged on the map with a statement of intention as both ASCN and now BOB has tried in a conq station region. Just take it over and there will be no doubt. I'm sorry but are you purposefully being silly? We have pos in the area. We have our fleets in the area everyday. We have set a goal of taking and holding querious. We are involved in Station ping pong with our enemies. That means we are contesting Querious. Contesting a region is not the same as controlling a region, hence why they are not marked on the map as such. I'm not sure why that is difficult to understand but perhaps you should stay out of the map thread if you are unable to understand the rules of the thread or contact the mapmaker directly for clarification. Please don't turn this thread into a flamefest again, Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:41:00 - [83] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: shivan Originally by: DB Preacher Hi, BoB are officially contesting Querious with the intention to take it over as our own. Official Statement of intent Thanks, dbp Only 9CG should be vontested in any way atm, as BoB have no sov in Q at this time. We are stating our intentions, as per the rules of this thread. Stain Alliance also do not hold sovereignty in any Querious system, so what's your point? My point was and is, if you had bother to read, that you guys dont have sov atm. Sov is also not contested in any of the station systems so how can you contest the region yet? Also, no where did i say that Stain Alliance claims the region, so SA not having sov is a kinda moot issue. Get 9cg sov contested in game, and ill be one of the first people to admit it here. Having DBP say that you guys contest the entire region when you have no sov and there is no contested sov in any station systems is wrong IMHO. It's that i dont mind it, its just wrong, ya know. When the sov is contested, then post that you contest it, as that is the only time you guys should post about TBH. At this current time, SMASH has sov. Therefore I request the marker for FIX in Q be changed to SMASH.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.05.29 10:46:00 - [84] We had sov last week. We gave it to fix. They lost it to smash. We have pos up to retake it. My post was not a knee-jerk reaction, it was a post based on the last two weeks action. Seriously, why are you arguing this point? 450 man fleet battles, poses all over the place, statements of contention on each side, pcs swopping hands constantly. We are contesting the region so get with it and please, stop the pointless arguing in here. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Auntie Bob	Posted - 2006.05.29 11:04:00 - [85] Originally by: DB Preacher We had sov last week. We gave it to fix. They lost it to smash. We have pos up to retake it. My post was not a knee-jerk reaction, it was a post based on the last two weeks action. Seriously, why are you arguing this point? 450 man fleet battles, poses all over the place, statements of contention on each side, pcs swopping hands constantly. We are contesting the region so get with it and please, stop the pointless arguing in here. dbp lol mission runners have no voice, you keep pointing out only molle, galavert and fatlight make official posts on behalf of bob so stfu nub. LOL you have 1 station in delve which you are gonna be losing soon ) and what systems do you have exactly in querious? any?
dimensionZ	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:07:00 - [86] Originally by: Auntie Bob Originally by: DB Preacher We had sov last week. We gave it to fix. They lost it to smash. We have pos up to retake it. My post was not a knee-jerk reaction, it was a post based on the last two weeks action. Seriously, why are you arguing this point? 450 man fleet battles, poses all over the place, statements of contention on each side, pcs swopping hands constantly. We are contesting the region so get with it and please, stop the pointless arguing in here. dbp lol mission runners have no voice, you keep pointing out only molle, galavert and fatlight make official posts on behalf of bob so stfu nub. LOL you have 1 station in delve which you are gonna be losing soon ) and what systems do you have exactly in querious? any? Mission runner ? Nub ? Are you sure you are quoting the correct person ? db preacher is one of the best pvpers and overall person (<3) i met in eve-online. And what about the 1 station thing ? We currently own 4, and the biggest threat we ever had was xirtam mining plagioclase in aridia ... ----------------------------------------
SirMolle	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:10:00 - [87] Originally by: Auntie Bob lol mission runners have no voice, you keep pointing out only molle, galavert and fatlight make official posts on behalf of bob so stfu nub. dbp speaks for Galavet, Blacklight, me, and StiZum when it comes to these matters. Do you want a official badge as well? BoB have stated the intent of cleaning up Querious. You however, are not speaking for any corp, nor any alliance, so, you do not belong in this thread at all, regardless of your blatant fanboism problems. For now, a warzome marker over all of Q will do, a contestion. We're in no hurry to make the map reflect reality.
shivan	Posted - 2006.05.29 12:16:00 - [88] Originally by: SirMolle Originally by: Auntie Bob lol mission runners have no voice, you keep pointing out only molle, galavert and fatlight make official posts on behalf of bob so stfu nub. dbp speaks for Galavet, Blacklight, me, and StiZum when it comes to these matters. Do you want a official badge as well? BoB have stated the intent of cleaning up Querious. You however, are not speaking for any corp, nor any alliance, so, you do not belong in this thread at all, regardless of your blatant fanboism problems. For now, a warzome marker over all of Q will do, a contestion. We're in no hurry to make the map reflect reality. I aggree with a war marker, as that does reflect reality. And DBP, you had the station and gave that back to FIX, bob have not had sov in 9CG yet.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.05.29 13:07:00 - [89] Originally by: Fred0 Just take it over and there will be no doubt. Sounds fair. Mr. Foiritain, could you please re-post the guidelines so I can include them in the rules post? ___ Originally by: thedragoon Well the post was not trolling it was an alliance post and as the leader of the alliance i request that my post remains before i find Abdalion scramble his ass for being a fool

Sliinky	Posted - 2006.05.29 19:32:00 - [90] Why is the whole of Stain contested? SE have stated publicly that they have no ambition to destroy SA (just gank as and when) and as such do no not warrant a contested marker. Just a thought

Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.30 08:08:00 - [91] Originally by: Sliinky Why is the whole of Stain contested? SE have stated publicly that they have no ambition to destroy SA (just gank as and when) and as such do no not warrant a contested marker. Just a thought SE/SA space is not claimed space anymore. No one can claim it because everyone uses it to there advantage and the huge amount of NPC stations enable dozens of alliances to live there without much difficulty. We moved alts 4 jumps past 9gq into a dead system and have been living there ratting ever since. Just because your say we claim this area, you have to back it up. Niether Se/SA do this, therefore it is a contested region between mulitple alliances. I hope this naswers your questions Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Taurequis	Posted - 2006.05.30 08:16:00 - [92] Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Originally by: Sliinky Why is the whole of Stain contested? SE have stated publicly that they have no ambition to destroy SA (just gank as and when) and as such do no not warrant a contested marker. Just a thought SE/SA space is not claimed space anymore. No one can claim it because everyone uses it to there advantage and the huge amount of NPC stations enable dozens of alliances to live there without much difficulty. We moved alts 4 jumps past 9gq into a dead system and have been living there ratting ever since. Just because your say we claim this area, you have to back it up. Niether Se/SA do this, therefore it is a contested region between mulitple alliances. I hope this naswers your questions I think the point he's trying to make is none of the other alliances claim it... On the other hand why not divide into part like Curse (which has many alliances fighting for it and different groups living there). Similarly why not have Fountain as a multifaction warzone when many different alliances claim that? Has always confused me the three different sets of rules for three different npc station regions. Best Regards, Taurequis
Cmd Woodlouse	Posted - 2006.05.30 21:02:00 - [93] Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Originally by: Sliinky Why is the whole of Stain contested? SE have stated publicly that they have no ambition to destroy SA (just gank as and when) and as such do no not warrant a contested marker. Just a thought SE/SA space is not claimed space anymore. No one can claim it because everyone uses it to there advantage and the huge amount of NPC stations enable dozens of alliances to live there without much difficulty. We moved alts 4 jumps past 9gq into a dead system and have been living there ratting ever since. Just because your say we claim this area, you have to back it up. Niether Se/SA do this, therefore it is a contested region between mulitple alliances. I hope this naswers your questions Wrong. The intention to claim npc space has to be spoken out. If then NOBODY contests this claim, it can indeed be marked as controlled by the entity that has the intention to. Quite simple, imo. --------------------------------
Gaskin Ravenwing	Posted - 2006.05.31 04:02:00 - [94] The Novus Ordos Seclorum alliance has been ceded the Providence area previously claimed by Huzzah Federation. it is composed of the corporations from Huzzah who still live there. Gaskin Ravenwing CEO Widowmakers Executor Novus ordos Seclorum I whine alot :(
transporter2005	Posted - 2006.05.31 13:09:00 - [95] i might wanna update map as bob are in querious now
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.05.31 16:00:00 - [96] Are we due an update soon? I am merely curious Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.06.01 12:38:00 - [97] Hi, BoB are no longer officially contesting Querious. We are in full control of querious. All hostiles have left, all hostile POS are removed. 2/3 stations are in our control, the other will revert to our control this evening. The whole of querious should be marked as BoB territory similar to Fountain, Delve and Period Basis. Any queries to Dianabolic. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Trina Tron	Posted - 2006.06.01 23:49:00 - [98] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 01/06/2006 22:55:14 Territorial Alliance Map - Latest Update 01.05.2006 date should be 01.06.2006
Miranda Zogranzizenzic	Posted - 2006.06.02 01:23:00 - [99] Edited by: Miranda Zogranzizenzic on 02/06/2006 01:25:22 Is it just me or does the "April Fools" map look like the more up to date map than the"Latests"map?
Death Bliss	Posted - 2006.06.02 03:12:00 - [100] Tribal Souls is non-existant now on your #14

Audrea	Posted - 2006.06.02 04:07:00 - [101] Originally by: Miranda Zogranzizenzic Edited by: Miranda Zogranzizenzic on 02/06/2006 01:25:22 Is it just me or does the "April Fools" map look like the more up to date map than the"Latests"map? owned! and I was about to post wtf, new map is same as previous ------------------ If you are tired of fleet combat lag, post HERE All posts are my personal opinions.
hhhhhhhhhhhhhgg	Posted - 2006.06.02 04:33:00 - [102] ERA is still in tribute ?
Squize	Posted - 2006.06.02 05:57:00 - [103] You might want to correct the date of the update :) i believe it should be 01.06.2006
Fred0	Posted - 2006.06.02 06:43:00 - [104] Err, map hasn't been updated as far as I can see. Both querious and Tribute are clearly wrong now.
Colje	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:24:00 - [105] Stain isnt contested at all, Stain Alliance got full control over this space. I have no idea which "multi factions" you are refering to :) SE lives in 4GQ as they've always have the past year. Please correct this.
katz3	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:42:00 - [106] http://dl3.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/01.06.108.jpg there is no ERA in tribute anymore...
Lorem Mon	Posted - 2006.06.02 11:43:00 - [107] here you go, brand new alliance map 1600x1200 format to be used as a desktop background. Features include: - contested areas and war zones of latest map - 2 previous maps to see how the alliance controlled areas have changed for fast viewing should i continue spamming you with the maps when new maps arrive ? null download your copy of desktop map
ActiveX	Posted - 2006.06.02 12:03:00 - [108] Ahhh Paragon Soul is completly taken by AXE and ASCN and is a shared region ____________ Sex / Rank 9 / SP: 1280 of 2304000
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:30:00 - [109] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 02/06/2006 15:31:16 Originally by: Lorem Mon here you go, brand new alliance map 1600x1200 format to be used as a desktop background. Features include: - contested areas and war zones of latest map - 2 previous maps to see how the alliance controlled areas have changed for fast viewing should i continue spamming you with the maps when new maps arrive ? download your copy of desktop map Nice, Please Do Though if you could rename it to latest and overwrite it when you upload a new version thatd be even s****ier ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Raid	Posted - 2006.06.02 15:56:00 - [110] Edited by: Raid on 02/06/2006 15:57:05 No. 4 is not accurate. There is no significant fighting between CC and lv/chimp... the odd gank squad both ways but its hardly a warzone... KOS is also no longer hostile. I recommend removing cc/cdc from that and just leaving it as RA vs Coalition. Originally by: Bared Bel'Medar Its a rare dialect called "dou'chay'ba'gh"... frequently used by members of this forum community. I was under the assumption you spoke it

Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.02 16:06:00 - [111] crappy update tbh, the map does not represent the real situation of 0.0 space up to this date
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.06.02 17:38:00 - [112] Could we get clarification on this thread about who all the initials are? Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
Shifu	Posted - 2006.06.02 19:38:00 - [113] Originally by: Colje Stain isnt contested at all, Stain Alliance got full control over this space. I have no idea which "multi factions" you are refering to :) SE lives in 4GQ as they've always have the past year. Please correct this. liar, you control nothing except docking range on the npc station we living in whole stain and you can do nothing with this, as always
Double TaP	Posted - 2006.06.02 21:35:00 - [114] Wrong date in the title!!
Orc A	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:28:00 - [115] Quote: liar, you control nothing except docking range on the npc station Lol. shif, give it up. You are 1 timezone, we are another. You live in 4gq are and you have no control whatso ever of anything north of (at most) 05y. FV- and north is uncontested SA space whereas south of 05y it can be considered contested by SE. They live on their side, we live on ours. They send gangs we have 2 guys online, our guys dock. We send gangs to visit SE when they got 2 gusy online.. same thing. TBH it's silly, and whats sillier shifu are your attempts to Propoganda boB style. leave it to bob, Please. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Dave White	Posted - 2006.06.02 22:34:00 - [116] Ehm...Tribute is now owned by Morhus Mihi/G.U.A.R.D alliance. Been like that for almost 2 weeks now
Danton Marcellus	Posted - 2006.06.02 23:04:00 - [117] Originally by: Dave White Ehm...Tribute is now owned by Morhus Mihi/G.U.A.R.D alliance. Been like that for almost 2 weeks now I believe that should read Morsus Mihi and to get your claim in on the map it's on you to state it not for Joshua to go wrestle it from you, right?! Remind me about The Maze. I'm Danton Marcellus and I approve of this message.
liquidism	Posted - 2006.06.03 01:35:00 - [118] sry offtopic: is the alliance map / eve-files.com down..? i cant reach for like 3 weeks now
demogod	Posted - 2006.06.03 04:20:00 - [119] so how do you get constellation contest if ra only has 1 system that funny
slip66	Posted - 2006.06.03 04:51:00 - [120] love the 1600 x 1200 Originally by: StOrM ViPeR Theres a skill called surgical strike in game I've learned that it actually stands for Band of Brothers

Remedial	Posted - 2006.06.03 05:05:00 - [121] GoonSwarm has replaced OSS/TCC in Syndicate. 3FA maintain the same systems they had before, plus the "2M" constellation that runs from 6-C to M2-. GoonSwarm challenges NORAD's claim on Outer Ring, and D2 have arrived to fight in the area as well on NORAD's side.
d4ve	Posted - 2006.06.03 09:39:00 - [122] Originally by: Orc A Quote: liar, you control nothing except docking range on the npc station Lol. shif, give it up. You are 1 timezone, we are another. You live in 4gq are and you have no control whatso ever of anything north of (at most) 05y. FV- and north is uncontested SA space whereas south of 05y it can be considered contested by SE. They live on their side, we live on ours. They send gangs we have 2 guys online, our guys dock. We send gangs to visit SE when they got 2 gusy online.. same thing. TBH it's silly, and whats sillier shifu are your attempts to Propoganda boB style. leave it to bob, Please. i try to refrain from posting here, but when i see things like this i have to react. we moved in with SE in 4gq for a while after our restructuring (fun and games in the south \o/), and those guys are well in control over that area. its true that there's a bigger chance of finding SA if you go farther to the north, but to say that their presence up there would justify a claim while SE only gets their space contested is just wrong. truth be told i only know of one single incident when we actually got a proper engagement from SA, otherwise the only thing to be found was the odd npcer. this might ofc have something to do with timezones, but that's the problem with 0.0-areas with npc-stations. fact is you will never be in control of the area without a 23/7 camp at every crusial point. the only system i have visited where that is the case is 5zxx in pure blind, but the residents there are not exactly organised so there would be a problem of who to assign the area to. this leads me to the conclusion that the multi faction warmarker might the best thing for every area with npc stations. if anyone can dock there is surely going to be multiple factions in the area. --
Nalrath Tolahnia	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:02:00 - [123] Originally by: Remedial GoonSwarm has replaced OSS/TCC in Syndicate. 3FA maintain the same systems they had before, plus the "2M" constellation that runs from 6-C to M2-. GoonSwarm challenges NORAD's claim on Outer Ring, and D2 have arrived to fight in the area as well on NORAD's side. NORAD will happily conceed a warzone marker over the primary Outer Ring systems, may as well put GoonSwarm plus others, since we are fighting JHENR and their allies in D5 primarily also. As for contesting, well contest away, but the invasion is less than 48 hours old, Josh we happily invite you to come watch it as it unfolds. Best Regards, Nalrath Tolahnia - NORAD Diplomatic Crew -------------------------------------------- NORAD Council Member, NORAD Diplomatic Crew Proudly Supplying Breakfast since.......eh
Orc A	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:06:00 - [124] Dear die, while you were visiting in the south, SA was rather bussy elsewhere - Querious - Duh. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
d4ve	Posted - 2006.06.03 14:29:00 - [125] Originally by: Orc A Dear die, while you were visiting in the south, SA was rather bussy elsewhere - Querious - Duh. that still doesn't make your original post sensible. you describe that the different alliances have the advantage in different timezones. you even say its the "same thing". yet you claim SA should have full control over northern stain while SE contest control over the southern part. whatever, its not my place to defend SE:s claim over their systems, and like i stated in my previous post, im not even sure any alliance should be able to claim npc-constellations as their own. --
Mr SunTzu	Posted - 2006.06.03 20:43:00 - [126] Tribute is since a long time not in the hands of ERA about time that it gets changed on the map.
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.06.03 21:03:00 - [127] Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 03/06/2006 21:04:28 Originally by: Orc A Dear die, while you were visiting in the south, we ran off cause bob where in our space, SA was hiding behind our allies :( - Querious - Duh, yanno? Edited for truth Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
JuGGeR	Posted - 2006.06.04 02:17:00 - [128] In the curse area we got a small update , iln has joined lv alliance , and we would like to get that updated on the map . Phantom Squads Homepage
Sarah Aubry	Posted - 2006.06.04 09:25:00 - [129] nice to see RA finally off the map, funny that they complain about it here.
Geralt Rivia	Posted - 2006.06.04 14:35:00 - [130] Originally by: Sarah Aubry nice to see RA finally off the map, funny that they complain about it here. Can u read? If yes u might have missed that: Quote: 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. and can be found here : Linkage

Sarah Aubry	Posted - 2006.06.04 16:13:00 - [131] sry let me introduce my self, my name is Sarah Aubry, friends call me Sarah or sars. i live in caldari space mainly. happy now?
Liet Traep	Posted - 2006.06.04 16:20:00 - [132] As others have mentioned Tribute is under the complete control of G.U.A.R.D. and Morsus Mihi. ERA are nowhere to be seem. Also NBSI has been retired and most of the remaining pilots have joined D2.
Shayla Sh'inlux	Posted - 2006.06.04 19:20:00 - [133] ERA does not lay any claim on Tribute, correct. I believe it is controlled by Guard and MM now.
NeuSiresMOM	Posted - 2006.06.05 00:03:00 - [134] Edited by: NeuSiresMOM on 05/06/2006 00:04:09 since the forum moderators accept rewriting qoutes for the sole purpose to flame i guess this is acceptable also Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 03/06/2006 21:04:28 Originally by: Orc A Dear die, while you were visiting in the south, we ran off cause bob where in our space, SA was hiding behind our allies :( - Querious - Duh, yanno? Edited for truth, even tho im a tool that likes long strolls thru fix space.... oops they have none.. i mean bob space to violate sheep.
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.06.05 08:21:00 - [135] Originally by: NeuSiresMOM Edited by: NeuSiresMOM on 05/06/2006 00:04:09 since the forum moderators accept rewriting qoutes for the sole purpose to flame i guess this is acceptable also Originally by: Bland Inquisitor Edited by: Bland Inquisitor on 03/06/2006 21:04:28 Originally by: Orc A Dear die, while you were visiting in the south, we ran off cause bob where in our space, SA was hiding behind our allies :( - Querious - Duh, yanno? Edited for truth, even tho im a tool that likes long strolls thru fix space.... oops they have none.. i mean bob space to violate sheep. Hello Alt please grow a pair and use your main Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.05 08:25:00 - [136] Please place a war zone marker between MC and Big Blue over thier territory. - History of the MC movie!
Nafri	Posted - 2006.06.05 12:36:00 - [137] Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux ERA does not lay any claim on Tribute, correct. I believe it is controlled by Guard and MM now. correct. ERA was removed from Tribute a few weeks ago. None of the systems is contested and Morsus Mihi and GUARD are in full control of Tribute. From Dusk till Dawn
Hoshi	Posted - 2006.06.05 13:39:00 - [138] Originally by: Danton Marcellus Could we get clarification on this thread about who all the initials are? The initials can be found ingame. Click the corp button on the left, Alliances tab, then Rankings and you'll have them all. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Udi Disl	Posted - 2006.06.05 17:29:00 - [139] Please add Cobra Alliance in Providence as we claim the space between CVA and Ushra Khan Thx Udi Disl Cobra Alliance Director
Dungar Loghoth	Posted - 2006.06.06 05:11:00 - [140] I'm a Director representing GoonSwarm and would like to point out the following: 1. TCC/OSS should be replaced with just GoonSwarm over Syndicate, except for the 3FA area already there, and the "new" 3FA claimed area between 6-C and M2-. 2. Outer Ring should be marked as contested between NORAD + D2 vs. GoonSwarm + J.H.E.N.R. 3. NBSI aren't in Syndicate anymore for the most part, although some D2 people are around shooting people in the JQV constellation, so a war marker might be placed there. BRS really aren't present beyond Y9G/UTKS/97X either, so I don't think they qualify for a marker any more than other pirate corps might. 4. I enjoy pie.

Nalrath Tolahnia	Posted - 2006.06.06 08:32:00 - [141] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth I'm a Director representing GoonSwarm and would like to point out the following: 1. TCC/OSS should be replaced with just GoonSwarm over Syndicate, except for the 3FA area already there, and the "new" 3FA claimed area between 6-C and M2-. 2. Outer Ring should be marked as contested between NORAD + D2 vs. GoonSwarm + J.H.E.N.R. 3. NBSI aren't in Syndicate anymore for the most part, although some D2 people are around shooting people in the JQV constellation, so a war marker might be placed there. BRS really aren't present beyond Y9G/UTKS/97X either, so I don't think they qualify for a marker any more than other pirate corps might. 4. I enjoy pie. We will happily accept a warzone marker, its been less than a week since you rolled in, and while the endless blob of 4C and on occassion D5 exsists, the rest of Outer Ring you have no forces (cept NM in small numbers) in, when you start killing POS's, and travelling further than the NM/4C/D5 station zones you can go with your claim. Until then, lets enjoy the fun and the fights. Best Regards Nalrath Tolahnia - NORAD Diplomatic Crew -------------------------------------------- NORAD Council Member, NORAD Diplomatic Crew Proudly Supplying Breakfast since.......eh
Malicious Wraith	Posted - 2006.06.08 11:16:00 - [142] Mr. Joshua Foiritain, I would like to point out that ERA is no longer in control of Tribute, it is now under control of Guard and Morhus Mihi.
Tadis	Posted - 2006.06.09 14:20:00 - [143] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth 2. Outer Ring should be marked as contested between NORAD + D2 vs. GoonSwarm + J.H.E.N.R. Refer to J.H.E.N.R and allies as Pure. Alliance from thus onwards. ty :) ___________________________________ PvP addict. Send me a mail In-game for access to Alumni NRG Recruiting
Turkantho	Posted - 2006.06.10 17:35:00 - [144] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth 2. Outer Ring should be marked as contested between NORAD + D2 vs. GoonSwarm + J.H.E.N.R. D¦ is not involved in any territorial conflict regarding the Outer Ring region, we were just in the area to get a few good fights. ________ Asgar[D]¦ welcomes the dawn
Barin Serrano	Posted - 2006.06.11 13:22:00 - [145] Edited by: Barin Serrano on 11/06/2006 13:23:31 Please Update the conflict in the Outer Ring as follows: NORAD -v- GOONSWARM, SMASH (Main combatents) and PURE. (Occasional combatents) + anyone else who is having a shot.... -- Barin Serrano NORAD Head of Foriegn Affairs
The Mittani	Posted - 2006.06.11 15:33:00 - [146] Originally by: Barin Serrano Edited by: Barin Serrano on 11/06/2006 13:23:31 Please Update the conflict in the Outer Ring as follows: NORAD -v- GOONSWARM, SMASH (Main combatents) and PURE. (Occasional combatents) + anyone else who is having a shot.... SMASH is only up there for a weekend, they are mercenaries hired by Goonswarm to destroy NORAD POS's. Though since they are so professional and polite, should you place more in the region Goonswarm will no doubt hire them again. By the standards of the NORAD diplomat a couple of posts up ('Once you start killing POSs'), Outer Ring is absolutely contested territory, not merely a warzone. I'll edit this post once our POS destruction op is over to list specific results, though frankly I fail to see how the presence or absence of a POS in NPC space has much to do with claims or soverignty. The Mittani, War Planner Type Person
Khirzan Wolfson	Posted - 2006.06.11 23:13:00 - [147] KOS Alliance has claimed N7-BIY system for the extension of KOS Territory. This station is open to all of the Southern Coaltition allies, and their sponsor corps. Mail Khirzan Wolfson for info. This are is considered fully secure and non-contested. Was a friendly change of hands. -Khirzan Wolfson KOS Foreign Affairs
Creamster	Posted - 2006.06.12 02:26:00 - [148] Originally by: Colje Stain isnt contested at all, Stain Alliance got full control over this space. I have no idea which "multi factions" you are refering to :) SE lives in 4GQ as they've always have the past year. Please correct this. Here we go again with lame propaganda. None of the factions in Stain is strong enough to control the whole thing. Too many stations, too many time zones, and absolutely no reason. If you want a region, pick a good one, yeah i know you failed in querious. So what, just kill sanshas, i know you like it, but be humble. There's no way S-A is able to back up their members' claims for Stain region. The last serious effort to seize control happened many months ago, back in october 2005. Nowadays their presence is down to small groups with "travel" setups, occasional sniper or two and a number of very careful c-bears. ___________
Wgaf	Posted - 2006.06.12 06:42:00 - [149] Cream you are the one propogandaing here.. We control one part, yu control the other, why cant you sattle for that? as i said before - leave the bob style propoganda for bob m8.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.06.12 07:49:00 - [150] Originally by: Wgaf Cream you are the one propogandaing here.. We control one part, yu control the other, why cant you sattle for that? ORLY? So when mr SA says: Originally by: Colje Stain isnt contested at all, Stain Alliance got full control over this space. It's all just misguided and wishful thinking? So in fact me SE is FAR more accurate, by even your own admission, by mr SA? Thanks and come again, with a straight story next time please.

Emrod	Posted - 2006.06.12 08:32:00 - [151] Hmmm for SE an SA.. I proposed to let the statu of Warzone because nobody want to really say what happen here...or the better other thing to do its split the region in two faction: SA in the north and SE in the south... but if other faction fight here againts, stay with the Warzone marker (; And finally...Void was disband.....and now who are control Vale of Silent?RAZOR? I think its very important to know it before the making of the futur map!! -Hey are you a french canadian huh? - Nooooooooooo I am Quebeker tabarnak !! And now die fool!
Mr Egg	Posted - 2006.06.12 21:27:00 - [152] C-J6MT station (region Insmother) under full control of Red Alliance about 10 days.
Jelania Freelar	Posted - 2006.06.12 22:04:00 - [153] why is ISS not on this map??
Bland Inquisitor	Posted - 2006.06.13 01:51:00 - [154] Originally by: Jelania Freelar why is ISS not on this map?? ISS does not claim regions or spoace, the inhabit others with set systems which they semi claim if they did they would be a territorial alinace and bang wipeout time Alliances Pwn All LDT Recruitment
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.13 05:43:00 - [155] Originally by: Seleene Please place a war zone marker between MC and Big Blue over thier territory. Bah. War is now over. You're too slow, Josh!! How about a custom map just for the archives, eh? - History of the MC movie!
Remedial	Posted - 2006.06.13 13:34:00 - [156] I am requesting that GoonSwarm replace NORAD on the map, with a combat zone marker being placed over the area that shows the fight between the two alliances. NORAD's resistance has been truly minimal. We haven't had a real fleet engagement in a week, despite over 100 active GoonSwarm pilots being in the Outer Ring area 20+ hours a day since the beginning of the invasion. They simply do not have the numbers to mass up and fight us. We have almost totally locked down 4C-B, their former capital. Most NORAD have been forced to move to either D5IW or NM- in order to mine and rat. We have destroyed five seperate NORAD towers in four systems, and cannot find any more POSs that aren't in reinforced mode. If we do find them, they will be destroyed within just a few days of being found. Although NORAD and GoonSwarm continue to trade kills, they are typically very small engagement or gank squad kills from both sides, as they cannot field fleets to compete with us. As such I do not believe that the area could even be called "contested" anymore, and NORAD are closer to raiders or insurgents who are temporarily in the area than an actual power capable of claiming the area and defending it against an invasion.
Barin Serrano	Posted - 2006.06.13 14:11:00 - [157] NORAD do not acknowledge the post from GOONSWARM for the following reasons: 1) You do not have total control of this region. 2) http://pvpdb.eve-norad.org/stats/corpdetail.php?norad=0&corp=GoonFleet&uts=-1 and http://pvpdb.eve-norad.org/stats/corpdetail.php?norad=0&corp=GoonWaffe&uts=-1 indicate the fighting which is going on, and that does not indicate that a 'Total Victory' by Goonswarm. We will happily take a contested marker, however until such time as we can no longer operate freely, this space will in our opinion be ours. -- Barin Serrano NORAD Head of Foriegn Affairs
Remedial	Posted - 2006.06.13 14:19:00 - [158] Frankly, posting killmails or lossmails really means nothing without context. There are plenty of alliances that have formal holds on space that loses dozens of ships per day in their space to outside forces who are still not seriously threatened by those forces. This is the case in NORAD space. We outnumber them probably 5 to 1 at most times, and 10 to 1 during our primetime. Yes, both sides are shooting each other - the difference is that in an economy of scale, we can afford to lose 10 battleships to every 1 NORAD battleship and still win the economic war, keep their main routes locked down, destroy their POSs, and generally stay in control of the region. We destroyed a NORAD freighter attempting to leave 4C-B early this morning, but posting its killmail wouldn't show that we owned anything. You own a region by not facing any opposition that has a chance of dislodging you. NORAD do not have that chance any more than random pirate corporations in the area. Therefore the request to replace them on the map with GoonSwarm should stand, and they should be given a war marker since there is little chance that they will be retaking the area without serious outside help.
Barin Serrano	Posted - 2006.06.13 14:26:00 - [159] NORAD will not be drawn into a flame war on this thread. As such we will not reply to the newest post from GOONSWARM, and refer to our earlier post on our position. -- Barin Serrano NORAD Head of Foriegn Affairs
Remedial	Posted - 2006.06.13 14:31:00 - [160] Ok, well, if Josh wants a complete kill and lossmail list from each side in order to resolve this dispute in order to measure who is "winning" or really in control, I'd be happy to provide him with one. Until then I'll maintain our position that blowing up 500 GoonFleet frigates and pods means next to nothing since it costs us next to nothing.

Emrod	Posted - 2006.06.13 17:04:00 - [161] Suggestion once again.....for Goonswarn and Norad...put the outer ring region like venal...warzone marker!! Thats it -Hey are you a french canadian huh? - Nooooooooooo I am Quebeker tabarnak !! And now die fool!
MysticNZ	Posted - 2006.06.14 09:24:00 - [162] I know we are not suppose to post here, but please keep making the 1600x1200 backgrounds. They are awesome and a great way to track changes. -=====-
Vishnej	Posted - 2006.06.14 14:02:00 - [163] Edited by: Vishnej on 14/06/2006 14:02:21 Vale now belongs to CDC. VOID has disbanded. Of the forces operating when we left, Cruel Intentions deserves to have the constellation around UG- marked, and BLUE has their constellation around BWF.
Hampstah	Posted - 2006.06.14 19:50:00 - [164] Vish is right - CDC owns both LS-JEP and JZV stations and has control of Vale. ----- Beware Rodentz with Gunz
Aurora Ming	Posted - 2006.06.15 12:59:00 - [165] Gemini Federation agrees that CDC owns and controls vale. GF ownes V1G constilation just south of vale. And Cruel Intentions in the West of Gemni (UG system).
Raeff	Posted - 2006.06.16 17:10:00 - [166] Edited by: Raeff on 16/06/2006 17:13:22 Originally by: Nafri Originally by: Shayla Sh'inlux ERA does not lay any claim on Tribute, correct. I believe it is controlled by Guard and MM now. correct. ERA was removed from Tribute a few weeks ago. None of the systems is contested and Morsus Mihi and GUARD are in full control of Tribute. removed isnt the right word, i thought the propaganda war was over .. if you will notice we didnt stick around after the "incident" .. we had someplace better to go .. stronger now and strong friends we can trust
TX 01	Posted - 2006.06.17 04:33:00 - [167] Cruel Intentions does not state anywhere we claim the systems around UG.. We operate in and around Geminate but do not activily claim anything within it
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.06.18 15:04:00 - [168] Originally by: Seleene Bah. War is now over. You're too slow, Josh!! Then i have some good news, instead of once every two weeks im gonna start updating the map every 10 days. Partially because summer vacation (should) start next week and because 10 days should allow me accurate coverage of wars, since a lot of them dont quite last 14 days ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Scagga Laebetrovo	Posted - 2006.06.18 15:31:00 - [169] I don't think the 'latest' link takes us to the new map.
Isodoros	Posted - 2006.06.18 16:23:00 - [170] Click the 01.06.2006 map Then change 01. to 18. And there you have it

Nahual	Posted - 2006.06.18 16:26:00 - [171] Latest Maximum sig image file size is 24kb --Jorauk
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.06.18 16:30:00 - [172] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 18/06/2006 16:33:47 hmm something went wrong with uploading, it uploaded the new latest but didnt overwrite the old one, so the folder contained two Latest.jpg's. Deleted em both and reuploaded, should work now. Edit: Nope not working. Will go poke Chribba. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Ethan Hawk	Posted - 2006.06.18 18:17:00 - [173] Hi Please merge complete Tribute to purple and mark as combined Morsus Mihi and GUARD. We are holding this space together. We are claiming this area now for 4 weeks, so it can be declared as ours. Just to know: Morsus and GUARD are following on a NBSI at Tribute. Ethan Hawk GUARD Ambassador
Raid	Posted - 2006.06.18 18:38:00 - [174] Im nit picking but #4 should be placed between the two territories not on curse. Thats misleading...
Avernus	Posted - 2006.06.18 19:40:00 - [175] Would recommend taking war marker #5 off Querious. Incursions are increasingly rare, Vox is uninvolved, SA come once in a while, HF are the most active, and it's basically just looking for a target or two. There is no ramp up towards going contested, and the amount of conflict seems to be too low to warrrent a marker. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.18 20:16:00 - [176] Originally by: Avernus Would recommend taking war marker #5 off Querious. Incursions are increasingly rare, Vox is uninvolved, SA come once in a while, HF are the most active, and it's basically just looking for a target or two. There is no ramp up towards going contested, and the amount of conflict seems to be too low to warrrent a marker. And btw, isn't it FIX's territory?
Beyond Horizon	Posted - 2006.06.18 20:16:00 - [177] And again... GHOST are almost out of the picture in cache, now ERA are trying to claim it(m53 claim is theirs).
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.06.18 23:34:00 - [178] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Originally by: Avernus Would recommend taking war marker #5 off Querious. Incursions are increasingly rare, Vox is uninvolved, SA come once in a while, HF are the most active, and it's basically just looking for a target or two. There is no ramp up towards going contested, and the amount of conflict seems to be too low to warrrent a marker. And btw, isn't it FIX's territory? Unless you are directly involved in our territorial disputes please stay out of them. BoB is in complete control of Querious. There is no warzone, all major hostilities have ended. We are in control of all stations and are rebuilding the area. Like Xelas in Fountain, FIX will have a prescence in Querious but overall control of the region falls to BoB. On a similar note, VC and FA have relocated most of thier troops back to the aridia region. There is no warzone, simply the opportunity to camp in the remaining few members of that alliance who wish to stay docked in WY-. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Ziriam	Posted - 2006.06.19 06:17:00 - [179] syndicate is not all goons.. 3fa controls south syndicate and Enigma allaince is holding the center of syndicate while goons and 3fa fight us for territorial control. plz fix accordingly thanx. ziriam [SP4NK]Ceo.
Mr Happ	Posted - 2006.06.19 08:41:00 - [180] Originally by: Ziriam syndicate is not all goons.. 3fa controls south syndicate and Enigma allaince is holding the center of syndicate while goons and 3fa fight us for territorial control. plz fix accordingly thanx. ziriam [SP4NK]Ceo. We have guys down there and you have no sov on any system, all your doing is ganking Request be denied pls :) LDT Recruitment

Hans Roaming	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:26:00 - [181] Originally by: Avernus Would recommend taking war marker #5 off Querious. Incursions are increasingly rare, Vox is uninvolved, SA come once in a while, HF are the most active, and it's basically just looking for a target or two. There is no ramp up towards going contested, and the amount of conflict seems to be too low to warrrent a marker. Agreed it does not warrent a marker and is controlled by BoB. President Huzzah Federation Play EVE on the hard setting, join us.
Kaell Meynn	Posted - 2006.06.19 11:56:00 - [182] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain (1600*1200 Desktop Edition by Lorem Mon) Bad link mate. Try this one? http://media.stadia.fi/~0302128/mix-es/latest.jpg
Raeff	Posted - 2006.06.19 12:54:00 - [183] Originally by: Beyond Horizon And again... GHOST are almost out of the picture in cache, now ERA are trying to claim it(m53 claim is theirs). Cache status is Coalition owned .. pretty evenly accross the board between -LV-/UCC/GHOST/ERA and supported by our wonderful neighbors -V- and CHIMP(hope im not leaving anyone out) needs multi color of some sort
The Mittani	Posted - 2006.06.19 14:57:00 - [184] Originally by: Ziriam syndicate is not all goons.. 3fa controls south syndicate and Enigma allaince is holding the center of syndicate while goons and 3fa fight us for territorial control. plz fix accordingly thanx. ziriam [SP4NK]Ceo. ENIGMA has, until this post, represented themselves purely as a pirate alliance, rather than a territory-holding entity. They do not make any particular efforts to defend their homebase of V4-L0X (which is more of a refueling/rearming stop conveniently located between two Syndicate chokepoints than a 'base'), and have thus far only engaged in the usual sort of piracy and gatecamping we expect throughout the Syndicate area, rather than concentrating on any particular zone to defend. I would suggest that this announcement be disregarded, particularly because the ENIGMA representative has not even staked a claim to a particular constellation, nor have their actions demonstrated a desire to defend much of anything. Besides, at a fundamental level I can't bring myself to believe that CRWS would ever be content to claim and defend space. The Mittani, Official GoonSwarm Director-type Guy(tm)
Drantis	Posted - 2006.06.19 15:45:00 - [185] Joshua, Can you please remove PURE. from the map as we have no interest in the conquest of Outer Ring As far as we are concerned it is between Goon and NORAD. Regards Drantis JHENR PURE.
Ichabod Crane	Posted - 2006.06.19 15:58:00 - [186] Edited by: Ichabod Crane on 19/06/2006 16:01:25 Originally by: The Mittani Originally by: Ziriam syndicate is not all goons.. 3fa controls south syndicate and Enigma allaince is holding the center of syndicate while goons and 3fa fight us for territorial control. plz fix accordingly thanx. ziriam [SP4NK]Ceo. ENIGMA has, until this post, represented themselves purely as a pirate alliance, rather than a territory-holding entity. They do not make any particular efforts to defend their homebase of V4-L0X (which is more of a refueling/rearming stop conveniently located between two Syndicate chokepoints than a 'base'), and have thus far only engaged in the usual sort of piracy and gatecamping we expect throughout the Syndicate area, rather than concentrating on any particular zone to defend. I would suggest that this announcement be disregarded, particularly because the ENIGMA representative has not even staked a claim to a particular constellation, nor have their actions demonstrated a desire to defend much of anything. Besides, at a fundamental level I can't bring myself to believe that CRWS would ever be content to claim and defend space. The Mittani, Official GoonSwarm Director-type Guy(tm) From what I understand ENIGMA also have pilots in UM-Q7F and a few other systems in the DS-M4Q constellation so they definately live there, but share the constellation with other neutral corps. Aside from the odd camp in MHC and raiding parties into other areas they certainly dont seem to control the area, at least in my opinion. Also I'd like to point out an error or two on the map: the left tip of goonswarm space in syndicate (above 3FA space) overlaps the 2-M6DE and DS-M4Q constellations. 3FA currently controls 2-M6DE with our pilots actively basing themselves out of the area, with occasional enemy raids and the odd hostile traveller to reblier/MHC. Also to my knowledge Goonswarm has never made a claim on DS-M4Q, so that could do with fixing. -
dabster	Posted - 2006.06.19 16:55:00 - [187] Nobody can ever claim Syndicate, it's a no-mans-land for every pvp'er and pirate in the game. FFA ftw! It has been so since the beginning of Eve and always will be ffs. So there! ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Ziriam	Posted - 2006.06.20 08:24:00 - [188] Edited by: Ziriam on 20/06/2006 08:26:22 Originally by: Mr Happ Originally by: Ziriam syndicate is not all goons.. 3fa controls south syndicate and Enigma allaince is holding the center of syndicate while goons and 3fa fight us for territorial control. plz fix accordingly thanx. ziriam [SP4NK]Ceo. We have guys down there and you have no sov on any system, all your doing is ganking Request be denied pls :) We do not have SOV of any space. this was taken in a wrong light. "It was meant to be put on map as syndicate is a warzone" Enigma allaince does not"hold" space plz fix accordingly.
Light Darkness	Posted - 2006.06.22 06:54:00 - [189] Originally by: Raeff Originally by: Beyond Horizon And again... GHOST are almost out of the picture in cache, now ERA are trying to claim it(m53 claim is theirs). Cache status is Coalition owned .. pretty evenly accross the board between -LV-/UCC/GHOST/ERA and supported by our wonderful neighbors -V- and CHIMP(hope im not leaving anyone out) needs multi color of some sort You dont forget anythink. Welcome on our side. Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Treebeard dk	Posted - 2006.06.22 09:09:00 - [190] The RED owned part in scalding pass is not correct, they own C-J station now only and its in insmother, not scalding pass :)

Abye	Posted - 2006.06.23 19:05:00 - [191] I really like these Maps. Did you try using PNG instead of JPEG because JPEG compression is not working good with single colored areas ?
Dreya	Posted - 2006.06.26 07:40:00 - [192] Mc has Sov in 2 systems in period basis :) Deep inside bob territory an outpost is no small task to launch. interestin to see a small MC area inside bob :) Acc to ingame starmap the sys : Y-CWQY has the MC outpost.
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.06.26 08:09:00 - [193] Originally by: Dreya Mc has Sov in 2 systems in period basis :) Deep inside bob territory an outpost is no small task to launch. interestin to see a small MC area inside bob :) Acc to ingame starmap the sys : Y-CWQY has the MC outpost. Period Basis is already correctly marked as BoB territory on the map. MC live there along with other corps but we control the area. Please read the front post about alt posts and please do not post about BoB issues if you are not involved in a conflict with our space. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
zit me	Posted - 2006.06.26 11:11:00 - [194] Alektrophobia is now staging in synd After tomorrow we contest the area goonswarm has sov on please mark the map as a war zone and contested space.
thedragoon	Posted - 2006.06.26 11:17:00 - [195] Originally by: zit me Alektrophobia is now staging in synd After tomorrow we contest the area goonswarm has sov on please mark the map as a war zone and contested space. Alts ftl
Krollji	Posted - 2006.06.27 14:04:00 - [196] In regard to the Pure Blind Region: FREGE Alliance made an announcement in this forum that they were disbanding. All FREGE POSes have been removed from the Region and FREGE now consists of the holding company. The FREGE space as marked on the map in Pure Blind should be removed. ================ Krollji Prime Minister (Retired) Ekliptika (EKP)
Seleene	Posted - 2006.06.28 13:06:00 - [197] Originally by: Dreya Mc has Sov in 2 systems in period basis :) Deep inside bob territory an outpost is no small task to launch. interestin to see a small MC area inside bob :) Acc to ingame starmap the sys : Y-CWQY has the MC outpost. Your info is already out of date and, while a useful community tool, what Josh does with his map has traditionally been of no concern to us. - History of the MC movie!
Wraithstorm	Posted - 2006.06.29 14:59:00 - [198] Storm Armads would like to make official our claim the space formerly belonging to the FREGE Alliance. We control the SFGH, and 304Z constellation, and have structures in place waiting on the Sov timer. We have been uncontested in our claim, and would like the map updated as such. Thanks you
Mr Abbadon	Posted - 2006.06.30 12:26:00 - [199] UPDATE THE STINKING MAP!!!!! its too long between the updates... ___________________________________________________________________________________________ Minmatar ships: Varied piles of scrap metal welded together by random lightning strikes..
Shivaja	Posted - 2006.07.01 10:17:00 - [200] i wudlt like the map make remove contested mark from Outer Ring there is no one to contest with goons are gone those few camping station from inside its bars does not deserve contest mark its hard to catch any goons lately they got new candy in cloud ring Shivaja Queen of Outer Ring CHON ceo NORAD Military Commander NORAD Kill Board

Justus Imperius	Posted - 2006.07.01 15:56:00 - [201] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Dreya Mc has Sov in 2 systems in period basis :) Deep inside bob territory an outpost is no small task to launch. interestin to see a small MC area inside bob :) Acc to ingame starmap the sys : Y-CWQY has the MC outpost. Period Basis is already correctly marked as BoB territory on the map. MC live there along with other corps but we control the area. Please read the front post about alt posts and please do not post about BoB issues if you are not involved in a conflict with our space. Thanks, dbp I hear bob is invading Omist Meh Idea
Barin Serrano	Posted - 2006.07.02 12:39:00 - [202] /signed on behalf of the NORAD Foriegn Affairs Department -- Barin Serrano NORAD Head of Foriegn Affairs
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.07.02 13:32:00 - [203] Originally by: Treebeard dk The RED owned part in scalding pass is not correct, they own C-J station now only and its in insmother, not scalding pass :) Look closer, the Scalding Pass label might make it seem like its marked wrongly but it infact exactly on the right place. Compare the stars covered by the Red box with the constellation their station is in ingame ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
The Enslaver	Posted - 2006.07.02 13:49:00 - [204] Whats with Cache on the latest map? :P --------
Ilmonstre	Posted - 2006.07.02 15:06:00 - [205] Originally by: The Enslaver Whats with Cache on the latest map? :P if you look closely you see libes coming from the 3 claiming coalition alliances wich if i am correct have a co-op claim over it. or am i wrong here?
Manic Mole	Posted - 2006.07.02 15:28:00 - [206] Originally by: Ilmonstre Originally by: The Enslaver Whats with Cache on the latest map? :P if you look closely you see libes coming from the 3 claiming coalition alliances wich if i am correct have a co-op claim over it. or am i wrong here? yer your right. also on a different note the CVA territory extends a bit more north and the UK terretory extends more south in provedence with COB holding the 5-88B9 constelation bettween them. if anything I say offends STFU.
Exile Devaltos	Posted - 2006.07.02 16:25:00 - [207] Is it me or is the April Fool's map exactly the same as the Latest map? Meh well, sorry to spam, just find it annoying that such an insignifcant detail hasn't been noticed in the past few months. Delete this when done Originally by: Wrangler Thats odd, I always drink after dealing with you people..
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.02 17:41:00 - [208] VC have pulled out of fountain for the most part. Just a couple of randoms left. Cheers, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Rover Vitesse	Posted - 2006.07.02 20:49:00 - [209] All Detorid is now LV. Rovers Chronicles
Heraklitus Nomidzon	Posted - 2006.07.02 21:18:00 - [210] Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right.

Jhala Formei	Posted - 2006.07.03 00:31:00 - [211] Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right. And there is a 1 on the key, but none on the map.
Wendat Huron	Posted - 2006.07.03 04:22:00 - [212] What's the status on Cache?
Drilla	Posted - 2006.07.03 08:29:00 - [213] It's Coallition space. Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.03 13:56:00 - [214] Originally by: Jhala Formei Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right. And there is a 1 on the key, but none on the map. and only 1 of the 3 contested regions is on the key. Is he slipping a bit? ;p There is still fighting in Fountain (though most of it involves Xelas and not BoB), probably best if Josh comes and takes a look and figures out if he wants the war marker there or not. The Enemy's Gate is Down
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.03 14:31:00 - [215] Edited by: DB Preacher on 03/07/2006 14:34:56 Unless you are directly involved in a claim on our territory then please refrain from posting on this thread with regards our territories as it simply confuses matters. We don't do it to anyone else and would appreciate if people didn't do it to us. Again, I state: VC have left Fountain, I could give detailed information as to where and why they have gone but I am sure they will do this themselves in good time. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.07.03 14:55:00 - [216] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Jhala Formei Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right. And there is a 1 on the key, but none on the map. and only 1 of the 3 contested regions is on the key. Is he slipping a bit? ;p There is still fighting in Fountain (though most of it involves Xelas and not BoB), probably best if Josh comes and takes a look and figures out if he wants the war marker there or not. Venal and Stain arent contested, theyre multi faction warzones as detailed by the 2 marker on them. As for 1 and 2 in the legenda, theyre always there as they reserve those numbers even if theyre not actually present on the map at this time. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Raeff	Posted - 2006.07.03 17:01:00 - [217] Originally by: Wendat Huron What's the status on Cache? took me a sec to figure it out but if you look at the outline around cache its all the colors of the coalition(almost all)
The Armin	Posted - 2006.07.03 20:19:00 - [218] Edited by: The Armin on 03/07/2006 20:19:49 Originally by: DB Preacher VC have left Fountain, I could give detailed information as to where and why they have gone but I am sure they will do this themselves in good time. I hate to correct you dbp, but Shiva left, VC didn't. Not that it matters, BoB's sov in the region hasn't been threatened for a while. We hope that we'll be able to save the remains of the alliance and continue to give you good fights in Fountain though. Then again, I'm just a "random", and you should perhaps not take me that serious :) I think theres gonna be an official statement regarding VC soon. -.-
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.03 20:47:00 - [219] Originally by: The Armin Edited by: The Armin on 03/07/2006 20:19:49 Originally by: DB Preacher VC have left Fountain, I could give detailed information as to where and why they have gone but I am sure they will do this themselves in good time. I hate to correct you dbp, but Shiva left, VC didn't. Not that it matters, BoB's sov in the region hasn't been threatened for a while. We hope that we'll be able to save the remains of the alliance and continue to give you good fights in Fountain though. Then again, I'm just a "random", and you should perhaps not take me that serious :) I think theres gonna be an official statement regarding VC soon. You should speak to your seniors about where you are going next before posting. Cheers, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Chribba	Posted - 2006.07.04 11:14:00 - [220] I'd suggest you change the links to 'dl1.eve-files.com' rather than 'dl3' since 'dl3' is a submirror with lower uptime/accessibility than dl1 (plus dl1 will _always_ be accurate while the others are delayed in their updating). Just fyi Keep up the great work! /c EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread


Ziriam	Posted - 2006.07.04 18:10:00 - [221] YO syndicate is a warzone!!! plz correct it.
Antigen Po	Posted - 2006.07.04 19:37:00 - [222] Edited by: Antigen Po on 04/07/2006 19:37:24 The area currently shown as being owned by NFC and FLA is a warzone with FLA + IRON vs NFC + OPUS.
Ichabod Crane	Posted - 2006.07.04 19:44:00 - [223] Originally by: Ziriam YO syndicate is a warzone!!! plz correct it. Syndicate is not a warzone, nor has it been for many months There is always fighting here in Syndicate but no more than any other 0.0 region. IMO to be marked as a warzone it really would need two or more factions fighting each other for supremacy, and unless I am mistaken, ENIGMA does not claim or contest any other claim in this region -
Ziriam	Posted - 2006.07.05 06:03:00 - [224] Originally by: Ichabod Crane Originally by: Ziriam YO syndicate is a warzone!!! plz correct it. Syndicate is not a warzone, nor has it been for many months There is always fighting here in Syndicate but no more than any other 0.0 region. IMO to be marked as a warzone it really would need two or more factions fighting each other for supremacy, and unless I am mistaken, ENIGMA does not claim or contest any other claim in this region there is fighting in this region all day between d2, norad, 3fa, enigma, goon. so yea it is a war zone!
Ichabod Crane	Posted - 2006.07.05 10:57:00 - [225] I never denied that there was fighting there, but without anyone actually contesting it, it just doesnt justify a warzone marker IMO. Places like pure blind and providence arent peaceful simply because they dont have a warzone marker you know Syndicate already has a reputation as a violent and lawless region, it doesnt need some fancy sign to show that tbh -
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.05 15:23:00 - [226] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 03/07/2006 14:34:56 Unless you are directly involved in a claim on our territory then please refrain from posting on this thread with regards our territories as it simply confuses matters. We don't do it to anyone else and would appreciate if people didn't do it to us. The question is whether the war markers are there for information purposes or as a prelude to region contesting. If the former then there probably should be one in Fountain and if the latter there probably should not. I don't particularly care either way but I think that the role of the markers should be clarified. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.05 15:25:00 - [227] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Baun Originally by: Jhala Formei Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right. And there is a 1 on the key, but none on the map. and only 1 of the 3 contested regions is on the key. Is he slipping a bit? ;p There is still fighting in Fountain (though most of it involves Xelas and not BoB), probably best if Josh comes and takes a look and figures out if he wants the war marker there or not. Venal and Stain arent contested, theyre multi faction warzones as detailed by the 2 marker on them. As for 1 and 2 in the legenda, theyre always there as they reserve those numbers even if theyre not actually present on the map at this time. The map has little bubbles attached to Venal and Stain that say "contested space". So are you differentiating space contested between 2 parties and space contested between multiple parties? The Enemy's Gate is Down
Mr Happ	Posted - 2006.07.06 16:20:00 - [228] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Baun Originally by: Jhala Formei Originally by: Heraklitus Nomidzon Fountain shows a "9" marker, but there is no "9" in the key on the right. And there is a 1 on the key, but none on the map. and only 1 of the 3 contested regions is on the key. Is he slipping a bit? ;p There is still fighting in Fountain (though most of it involves Xelas and not BoB), probably best if Josh comes and takes a look and figures out if he wants the war marker there or not. Venal and Stain arent contested, theyre multi faction warzones as detailed by the 2 marker on them. As for 1 and 2 in the legenda, theyre always there as they reserve those numbers even if theyre not actually present on the map at this time. The map has little bubbles attached to Venal and Stain that say "contested space". So are you differentiating space contested between 2 parties and space contested between multiple parties? Hi since your corp does not infact contest any space or claim any space, stop posting, eve mail works just aswell as spamming this thread, now you can spam his mail box 2 :) LDT Recruitment
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.06 22:00:00 - [229] Your post is spam. My posts are neither provacative nor uneccesary. If you have a constructive comment on what I have said, post it. Otherwise you are spamming. This is a community resource. Indeed, one could argue that its primarily for the people NOT involved, since the people involved in the conflicts the map represents know alot more detail about their conflict than a mere picture can bely. Since I am not asking for changes at all, but merely offering a few critical comments, the responses to which could help clarify the current version of the map, I am not sure how you justify making your post. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.07.06 22:12:00 - [230] Originally by: Baun Your post is spam. My posts are neither provacative nor uneccesary. If you have a constructive comment on what I have said, post it. Otherwise you are spamming. This is a community resource. Indeed, one could argue that its primarily for the people NOT involved, since the people involved in the conflicts the map represents know alot more detail about their conflict than a mere picture can bely. Since I am not asking for changes at all, but merely offering a few critical comments, the responses to which could help clarify the current version of the map, I am not sure how you justify making your post. As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Originally by: Abdalion Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map. 2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar. 3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban. 4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. Them's the rules and you've "broken" them.

Mr Happ	Posted - 2006.07.07 01:47:00 - [231] Originally by: Baun Your post is spam. My posts are neither provacative nor uneccesary. If you have a constructive comment on what I have said, post it. Otherwise you are spamming. This is a community resource. Indeed, one could argue that its primarily for the people NOT involved, since the people involved in the conflicts the map represents know alot more detail about their conflict than a mere picture can bely. Since I am not asking for changes at all, but merely offering a few critical comments, the responses to which could help clarify the current version of the map, I am not sure how you justify making your post. As stated as above, i justify it as er, you broke the rules... LDT Recruitment
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.07 09:26:00 - [232] Edited by: Baun on 07/07/2006 09:35:16 Originally by: Dianabolic As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Those rules do not seem to be limited to asking for changes in territorial standing. My questions are about the way the map is presented and serve as a prelude to suggestions for its presentation should be changed. I have not broken any rules. If the mods want to delete comments that are constructive, genuinely trying to help and are not insulting or provacative in anyway, they can feel free. I am not going to repost. Of course its been 4-5 days and they haven't done anything. It looks to me like the bigger "threat" to this thread is it being derailed by people quoting rules by which I have abided instead of addressing the rather simple, and potentially revealing questions I am asking. So, if you will, allow Josh to answer my 2 basic questions and we can all gain a greater understanding of what his war markers mean and how he is trying to present the status of stain and venal. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Karosiak	Posted - 2006.07.07 09:35:00 - [233] Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 07/07/2006 09:30:08 Originally by: Dianabolic As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Those rules do not seem to be limited to asking for changes in territorial If they want to delete comments that are constructive, genuinely trying to help and are not insulting or provacative in anyway, they can feel free. I am not going to repost. Of course its been 4-5 days and they haven't done anything. It looks to me like the bigger "threat" to this thread is it being derailed by people quoting ill-conceieved rules instead of addressing the rather simple, and potentially revealing questions I am asking. Is anyone else hearing waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa booooo hoooo hoooooooooo? Which part of mail him don't you get? Now leave the alliance map to alliances, get out of the thread and stop spamming it with absolute rubbish.
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.07 09:38:00 - [234] Originally by: Karosiak Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 07/07/2006 09:30:08 Originally by: Dianabolic As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Those rules do not seem to be limited to asking for changes in territorial If they want to delete comments that are constructive, genuinely trying to help and are not insulting or provacative in anyway, they can feel free. I am not going to repost. Of course its been 4-5 days and they haven't done anything. It looks to me like the bigger "threat" to this thread is it being derailed by people quoting ill-conceieved rules instead of addressing the rather simple, and potentially revealing questions I am asking. Is anyone else hearing waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa booooo hoooo hoooooooooo? Which part of mail him don't you get? Now leave the alliance map to alliances, get out of the thread and stop spamming it with absolute rubbish. What is wrong with you? I am not spamming this thread, Y O U A R E. I have not broken any rules, you have. I am not asking for changes in territorial control, I am asking the map maker to clarify some things about the presentation of his map. Given that he made the map for the community, the proper place to address things that could clarify its reception is in a public forum. Stop spamming, stop destroying this thread. I am doing nothing wrong. The only people who are not being constructive are people posting useless comments such as yours. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Emrod	Posted - 2006.07.07 09:46:00 - [235] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Karosiak Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 07/07/2006 09:30:08 Originally by: Dianabolic As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Those rules do not seem to be limited to asking for changes in territorial If they want to delete comments that are constructive, genuinely trying to help and are not insulting or provacative in anyway, they can feel free. I am not going to repost. Of course its been 4-5 days and they haven't done anything. It looks to me like the bigger "threat" to this thread is it being derailed by people quoting ill-conceieved rules instead of addressing the rather simple, and potentially revealing questions I am asking. Is anyone else hearing waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa booooo hoooo hoooooooooo? Which part of mail him don't you get? Now leave the alliance map to alliances, get out of the thread and stop spamming it with absolute rubbish. What is wrong with you? I am not spamming this thread, Y O U A R E. I have not broken any rules, you have. I am not asking for changes in territorial control, I am asking the map maker to clarify some things about the presentation of his map. Given that he made the map for the community, the proper place to address things that could clarify its reception is in a public forum. Stop spamming, stop destroying this thread. I am doing nothing wrong. The only people who are not being constructive are people posting useless comments such as yours. Put a constested area in the Eve forum at the topic Territorial alliance map between all these random people below.
Karosiak	Posted - 2006.07.07 09:49:00 - [236] Originally by: Baun Originally by: Karosiak Originally by: Baun Edited by: Baun on 07/07/2006 09:30:08 Originally by: Dianabolic As much as I agree with the principle of what you're saying, Baun... Those rules do not seem to be limited to asking for changes in territorial If they want to delete comments that are constructive, genuinely trying to help and are not insulting or provacative in anyway, they can feel free. I am not going to repost. Of course its been 4-5 days and they haven't done anything. It looks to me like the bigger "threat" to this thread is it being derailed by people quoting ill-conceieved rules instead of addressing the rather simple, and potentially revealing questions I am asking. Is anyone else hearing waaaaaaaa waaaaaaaaa booooo hoooo hoooooooooo? Which part of mail him don't you get? Now leave the alliance map to alliances, get out of the thread and stop spamming it with absolute rubbish. What is wrong with you? I am not spamming this thread, Y O U A R E. I have not broken any rules, you have. I am not asking for changes in territorial control, I am asking the map maker to clarify some things about the presentation of his map. Given that he made the map for the community, the proper place to address things that could clarify its reception is in a public forum. Stop spamming, stop destroying this thread. I am doing nothing wrong. The only people who are not being constructive are people posting useless comments such as yours. E V E M A I L H I M Now stop spamming, you're destroying the thread
Joshua Foiritain	Posted - 2006.07.07 11:10:00 - [237] Mr Happ and Karosiak please go spam some other threat, if you have nothing usfull to say or ask then DONT POST. While technically Baun may be breaking the rules at least hes making a usefull contribution to the threat. Originally by: Baun The question is whether the war markers are there for information purposes or as a prelude to region contesting. Information purposes. Originally by: Baun The map has little bubbles attached to Venal and Stain that say "contested space". So are you differentiating space contested between 2 parties and space contested between multiple parties? Venal and Stain are marked as multifaction warzones, which basically means i am unable to find any usefull or accurate information as to who is actually in control of the region. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Barin Serrano	Posted - 2006.07.07 11:30:00 - [238] Joshua, Please can the territorial claim for the Outer Ring be updated to respect that NORAD and Fountain Alliance have merged into R I S E and handed control of this area to the new alliance. Thanks -- Barin Serrano R I S E Foriegn Affairs
Baun	Posted - 2006.07.07 14:51:00 - [239] Thanks for replying Josh. Quote: Originally by: Baun The map has little bubbles attached to Venal and Stain that say "contested space". So are you differentiating space contested between 2 parties and space contested between multiple parties? Venal and Stain are marked as multifaction warzones, which basically means i am unable to find any usefull or accurate information as to who is actually in control of the region. Would it make more sense to materially differentiate how you represent multi-faction war zones and contested regions on the map? Since you have those 2 regions listed as contested but don't have an indentifiable conflict going on there for control of the region, would leaving the region completely blank and putting a multi-faction warzone marker there be better? That way when you have a region that is contested it can be made clear which factions are vying for control, and then in the future you can show who won (it would certainly make those animated map GIFs cooler). A multi-faction warzone could overtime evolve into a contested region when you have sufficient information. Anyhow just a thought on that .... can't understand why people felt the need to spam in response to this. Quote: Originally by: Baun The question is whether the war markers are there for information purposes or as a prelude to region contesting. Information purposes. That makes sense. The only input I have is that as far as Fountain goes, there is still alot of fighting, but it only occassionally involves BoB (when they really show up, they usually heavily outnumber their enemies there). I would suggest leaving the war marker but changing it to the people you have listed vs. Xelas. Certainly no region contesting going on there, but definitely fighting of which people should probably be aware. The Enemy's Gate is Down
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.07 15:15:00 - [240] Edited by: DB Preacher on 07/07/2006 15:20:45 I take it you missed the post by FA today and are unaware of the upcoming post by VC. Why you persist in trying to get a warzone on fountain is beyond my understanding. There is no fighting going on. No fleets are roaming. No one is doing anything there. I spent 2 weeks up there recently and there was nothing to kill, xelas and bob were in complete control. Now FA have pulled out and VC are pulling out to go and start enjoying the game. We know you are bitter about what happened but seriously, move on. You'll never enjoy the game if you get stuck in the past. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Baun	Posted - 2006.07.07 15:53:00 - [241] Well in the last month just Celes has killed 60 BS, 1 carrier and 2-3 dozen HACs/Command ships just in Fountain (and about 100+ support ships), despite being virtually inactive for almost 2 weeks. As I said, this was mostly (almost exlusively, particularly lately) against Xelas. We are certainly fighting a war there. I could care less what your perception on the matter is DBP, given that you are unable to see my name without turning into an even larger ***** (if that is actually possible). Josh should go take a look. If he wants to remove the marker, he should certainly do so. My primary question was about what the markers were meant to represent, and according to his response it appears to be unrelated to territorial control. I am therefor somewhat mystified as to how you justify objecting to me posting (though I am not at all confused as to your motives). The Enemy's Gate is Down
DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:03:00 - [242] Hmm, Dice killed more than that in a week up north. I'd like a warzone across the whole of the north thanks. Oh wait, that doesn't work does it? IIRC The definition of the warzone that was posted before was something like "a constant daily fleet battle between forces over an extended period of time backed up with pos but without the desire to contest the region". Not some random gankings around a region by a piratical element. dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
TWD	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:07:00 - [243] Originally by: Baun Well in the last month just Celes has killed 60 BS, 1 carrier and 2-3 dozen HACs/Command ships just in Fountain (and about 100+ support ships), despite being virtually inactive for almost 2 weeks. As I said, this was mostly (almost exlusively, particularly lately) against Xelas. We are certainly fighting a war there. I could care less what your perception on the matter is DBP, given that you are unable to see my name without turning into an even larger ***** (if that is actually possible). Josh should go take a look. If he wants to remove the marker, he should certainly do so. My primary question was about what the markers were meant to represent, and according to his response it appears to be unrelated to territorial control. I am therefor somewhat mystified as to how you justify objecting to me posting (though I am not at all confused as to your motives). There are ships being killed all over 0.0 space, I don't exactly get your point. We have random people pirating in our space all the time, as most 0.0 regions. We all know your presence in Fountain is temporary, so what exactly is it that you want?

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:08:00 - [244] Last I checked this wasn't a discussion thread. Locked for cleanup. ___

DB Preacher	Posted - 2006.07.07 16:25:00 - [245] Edited -Abdalion VC and FA have pulled out of Fountain Region. No need for a warzone. Thanks, dbp Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
ParMizaN	Posted - 2006.07.08 22:40:00 - [246] Hmm; the grey colour with the borders over cache: does this represent control by CHIMP, LV and KOS? sig edited for lack of pink really PINK -eris
Mr Happ	Posted - 2006.07.09 06:20:00 - [247] Originally by: ParMizaN Hmm; the grey colour with the borders over cache: does this represent control by CHIMP, LV and KOS? Yupperz LDT Recruitment
Tristan	Posted - 2006.07.09 09:43:00 - [248] warzone 9 not in map key ------------------------------------------------------------ * snip * - Ulynub Snip.. under what rule? quit being a jerkoff ulynid, what, your a 15yo who got some mod rights?
Xendie	Posted - 2006.07.10 02:16:00 - [249] you might want to put a warzone marker on fountain. since after checking a few killboards it looks like over a 1000kills up there in the last months and Celest is still there together with friends killing off Xelas daily. with the extreme lack of "BoB" in that region im amazed that they are allowed to still be listed as owners. heck even Xelas got more right to it as they live there then "BoB". dont believe me then go up there and see for yourself for a whole month. Originally by: F'nog This would be great, because lag is not at all a problem currently.
Plim	Posted - 2006.07.10 02:37:00 - [250] Yeah it would make sense if claiming a region had the requirement of actually being there. Just a crazy suggestion. ----------------- Victory or death! ... knitting is also an option.

Nifel	Posted - 2006.07.10 09:31:00 - [251] Edited by: Nifel on 10/07/2006 09:32:10 Dianabolic too fast >_<. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.07.10 09:31:00 - [252] Originally by: Plim Yeah it would make sense if claiming a region had the requirement of actually being there. Just a crazy suggestion. Try and build infrastructure there and see how long it lasts. XELAS are there at OUR invitation, Plim, WE decide, as we have proven time and time again, who is allowed to maintain their status in Fountain - that is why we are listed as its' owners. The fact that, erm, we ARE there on a daily basis - just not sat in the station systems - seems to be escaping you.
darth solo	Posted - 2006.07.10 12:42:00 - [253] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Plim Yeah it would make sense if claiming a region had the requirement of actually being there. Just a crazy suggestion. Try and build infrastructure there and see how long it lasts. XELAS are there at OUR invitation, Plim, WE decide, as we have proven time and time again, who is allowed to maintain their status in Fountain - that is why we are listed as its' owners. The fact that, erm, we ARE there on a daily basis - just not sat in the station systems - seems to be escaping you. eve is not just about building pos's my friend.... the gun rules eve... PVPers dictate 0.0 space, not industrial characters... Fountain SHOULD be a warzone... The devs/mods/the public need only view the ammount of ships destroyed there to know this. Xelas are only squating in a-1 and a few pos's.... because our corp has no intention of capital fleets shooting pos's all day does not change this. yeah, ur alliance could bring enough so we cannot fight, but wouldnt that mean that the largest alliance in EVE would therefor own all of 0.0?, as they could prob take it when they like?.. owning an area should be noted only if u have a constant force there. you do not have this, and therefor the area should be contested. d solo.
Shariona	Posted - 2006.07.10 15:07:00 - [254] Sinds 5-24-2006 we (Celes)are fighting in fountain. All we see is Xellas, on the map its claimed by Bob. Shouldnt this be Xellas? Shariona Celesapoc official diplomat GOD is busy Can i help you?
welsh wizard	Posted - 2006.07.10 15:20:00 - [255] Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/07/2006 15:22:00 As far as I can tell from the in-game map Both BoB and Xelas share an equal number of sovereign systems in Fountain. If Xelas don't object to the map showing it as BoB's sovereignty then neither should we.
Paddlefoot Aeon	Posted - 2006.07.10 16:44:00 - [256] FREGE has disbanded and no longer claims soverignty in PureBlind. I believe STORM has moved in and is setting up POSes. This needs to be adjusted on the MAP Thanks, -Paddlefoot Now RECRUITING! Click my sig
Flourite	Posted - 2006.07.10 16:58:00 - [257] Originally by: Shariona Sinds 5-24-2006 we (Celes)are fighting in fountain. All we see is Xellas, on the map its claimed by Bob. Shouldnt this be Xellas? Shariona Celesapoc official diplomat Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/07/2006 15:22:00 As far as I can tell from the in-game map Both BoB and Xelas share an equal number of sovereign systems in Fountain. If Xelas don't object to the map showing it as BoB's sovereignty then neither should we. Originally by: Abdalion Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. Can you Celestial Apocalypse lot either choose one person to post or get a room please, too much talking or crap by too many diferent people in this thread. ok.?
Geralt Rivia	Posted - 2006.07.10 17:52:00 - [258] Originally by: Flourite Originally by: Shariona Sinds 5-24-2006 we (Celes)are fighting in fountain. All we see is Xellas, on the map its claimed by Bob. Shouldnt this be Xellas? Shariona Celesapoc official diplomat Originally by: welsh wizard Edited by: welsh wizard on 10/07/2006 15:22:00 As far as I can tell from the in-game map Both BoB and Xelas share an equal number of sovereign systems in Fountain. If Xelas don't object to the map showing it as BoB's sovereignty then neither should we. Originally by: Abdalion Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. Can you Celestial Apocalypse lot either choose one person to post or get a room please, too much talking or crap by too many diferent people in this thread. ok.? So, u are the representant of Aliastra then?
Kaho Barud	Posted - 2006.07.10 21:01:00 - [259] queroious should be under FIX now i think
Eternal Fury	Posted - 2006.07.11 00:16:00 - [260] Edited by: Eternal Fury on 11/07/2006 00:17:30 Ok. I've been meaning to ask this for months. Where is 1 located. It says 1 is Pirate Infested. Large Quantities of Pirates present in this sector of space. But since I started playing and found this wonderful map, I've yet to figure out where 1 is. Had to ask. Brotherhood of Light. Small Corp, Big Fun. Wanna join?

Komolov	Posted - 2006.07.11 06:30:00 - [261] Thanks for your maps Joshua. Couple of notes (please update) Mark number 5 (RA vs gangbangers) should be extended on Insmother, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass, Cache and probably southern Detorid. Also please add UCC and -M- to the list of them. We are not attacking V in their home systems in Great Wildlands. So i'm not sure about mark number 3. --------------------
sableye	Posted - 2006.07.11 07:09:00 - [262] Originally by: Eternal Fury Edited by: Eternal Fury on 11/07/2006 00:17:30 Ok. I've been meaning to ask this for months. Where is 1 located. It says 1 is Pirate Infested. Large Quantities of Pirates present in this sector of space. But since I started playing and found this wonderful map, I've yet to figure out where 1 is. Had to ask. from what I rmember number 1 was either northern syndicate or pure blind. ORC Recruiting You Today! Large Friendly 0.0/Empire Corp
Uther Doull	Posted - 2006.07.11 08:59:00 - [263] Originally by: Eternal Fury Edited by: Eternal Fury on 11/07/2006 00:17:30 Ok. I've been meaning to ask this for months. Where is 1 located. It says 1 is Pirate Infested. Large Quantities of Pirates present in this sector of space. But since I started playing and found this wonderful map, I've yet to figure out where 1 is. Had to ask. 1 and 2 are always on the legend, even if they don't actually have a place on the map itself
zincol	Posted - 2006.07.11 15:48:00 - [264] Bigblue space - Contested/war zone plz.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.07.11 19:19:00 - [265] Originally by: zincol Bigblue space - Contested/war zone plz. c'mon zincol, you know the score, if you're contesting it, state so - bring out the dreads, deploy the pos. A war zone, sure, but the two are VERY different.
WETRAIN	Posted - 2006.07.11 19:34:00 - [266] Hello Josh, i would like to ask you why have you remove PHA/IFC from HALE ? near CC space? it was marked as ILN/PHA/IFC but ILN joined LV so now its just PHA/IFC please put the marker back. Thank You Very Much. Yes ... I am back ... cant freaking quit ..
cryptic edge	Posted - 2006.07.11 21:47:00 - [267] Edited by: cryptic edge on 11/07/2006 21:49:27 The NFC no longer exists in deklein. The condition of deklein is currently contested. Further details will be given when the conflict is compleatly resolved by all those involved. edit - This includes the whole of deklein as of now. Sparta has attempted to claim NFC space due to NFC joining Sparta counting bodies like sheep to the rythm of the war drum
Avernus	Posted - 2006.07.11 23:09:00 - [268] Originally by: Kaho Barud queroious should be under FIX now i think Negative, we do not live in 'queroious', we do however live in Querious. Only those representing their respective alliances should be posting here. Current designated sovereignty for the region is correct, as is the lack of warmarkers. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.
Dave White	Posted - 2006.07.12 11:03:00 - [269] Where's MC on this map, thought they had a little thing going in Period Basis?
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.07.12 12:25:00 - [270] Originally by: Dave White Where's MC on this map, thought they had a little thing going in Period Basis? Are you in MC? No. Are you in BoB? No. Ergo, it's none of your business, nor is it your right to post it.

Dave White	Posted - 2006.07.13 00:23:00 - [271] Edited by: Dave White on 13/07/2006 00:23:49 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Dave White Where's MC on this map, thought they had a little thing going in Period Basis? Are you in MC? No. Are you in BoB? No. Ergo, it's none of your business, nor is it your right to post it. Just curious, just curious. Edit: Just me, or did some stickies get removed from topics that did have them before?
Sonya Casiros	Posted - 2006.07.13 13:59:00 - [272] Edited by: Sonya Casiros on 13/07/2006 14:01:55 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Dave White Where's MC on this map, thought they had a little thing going in Period Basis? Are you in MC? No. Are you in BoB? No. Ergo, it's none of your business, nor is it your right to post it. This is more of a 'political control' map than a 'where do certain alliances live' map. FIX, Xelas, and MC cede political control to BoB and therefore you don't see them on the map (despite heavy xelas presence in Fountain and almost complete control of Querious by FIX) Dianabolic, rather than being an ass, why not explain the way the map works rather than insult people who may not know. Personally I think anyone who has sov over some systems should be listed on the map as technically it is their space whether or not a larger power is allowing them to live there.
Dianabolic	Posted - 2006.07.13 15:47:00 - [273] Originally by: Sonya Casiros This is more of a 'political control' map than a 'where do certain alliances live' map. FIX, Xelas, and MC cede political control to BoB and therefore you don't see them on the map (despite heavy xelas presence in Fountain and almost complete control of Querious by FIX) Dianabolic, rather than being an ass, why not explain the way the map works rather than insult people who may not know. Personally I think anyone who has sov over some systems should be listed on the map as technically it is their space whether or not a larger power is allowing them to live there. I know the BoB forum spammers won't like this as they control alot of smaller groups with sov, but I think the larger eve community would apprecaite a more accurate map depicting who has sov and who primarilly resides in certain areas (rather than just political control). Sonya, rather than posting in a thread that does not concern you, or anyone else for that matter who is not directly involved, how about reading the rules and regulations of this thread which CLEARLY state that, if you are not one of the parties involved you do NOT post about it? We already hav a rather amazing "sovereignty map" for eve, it's quite conveniently called the in-game map.

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.07.14 03:55:00 - [274] Originally by: Sonya Casiros if you have anything further to say to myself or other community members about how our appreciation and understanding of the map isn't any concern of ours, please make a seperate thread so we don't clog this one. Please take your own advice and read the #2 post above. Please also understand that this topic has been gone over repeatedly, that is why #2 post above is there. Originally by: Abdalion Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. This is not a discussion thread, follow the rules above. ___


Abdalion	Posted - 2006.07.14 04:01:00 - [275] Originally by: Dianabolic anyone else for that matter who is not directly involved, how about reading the rules and regulations of this thread which CLEARLY state that, if you are not one of the parties involved you do NOT post about it? We already hav a rather amazing "sovereignty map" for eve, it's quite conveniently called the in-game map. Stop off topic posting/banter in this thread. Mail [email protected] if you notice someone breaking thread/forum rules. ___

Nifel	Posted - 2006.07.14 06:56:00 - [276] Ab... could we have the link to the April's fools map fixed? It's not working. "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: (MIN14)

Abdalion	Posted - 2006.07.16 00:30:00 - [277] Originally by: Nifel Ab... could we have the link to the April's fools map fixed? It's not working. Please evemail Mr. Foiritain and ask him to post the link here so I can correct it. ___

Betonela Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.16 06:59:00 - [278] i just see a that on map the sistem LXK5-W is on ASCN but on eve is AXIOM Empire
Peoke Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.16 20:44:00 - [279] hey josh ur doing a great job but on d2 and fade check the map soon as they are losing stations there to so i think that would kinda make it a war zone at least if not contested
Melchom Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.17 11:50:00 - [280] Originally by: Peoke hey josh ur doing a great job but on d2 and fade check the map soon as they are losing stations there to so i think that would kinda make it a war zone at least if not contested i checked the map and again and again and again and again nothing happens in fade ^^

bohda InterStellar Trading Corporation Incorporated	Posted - 2006.07.18 11:40:00 - [281] Well I guess someone has to do this: Sparta alliance has disbanded, we no longer lay claim to any part of Dek. Bohda ISTC Ex SPR Diplomat *Oderint Dum Metuant*
FatBalls Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 00:45:00 - [282] I belive you need to post APOSTLES OF INSANITY as disputing ARIDIA FRom R I S E, Vertigo Coalition and Imperium alliance as we have over 400 kills with my corp alone. Thanks for the time.
Nalrath Tolahnia WAFFLES Inc. R i s e	Posted - 2006.07.19 03:00:00 - [283] Originally by: FatBalls I belive you need to post APOSTLES OF INSANITY as disputing ARIDIA FRom R I S E, Vertigo Coalition and Imperium alliance as we have over 400 kills with my corp alone. Thanks for the time. Rise has no interest/forces/concern with Aridia - last i looked we claimed Outer Ring, as for 'disputing', if i remember the rules, this section is for Alliances, so go attention seeking somewhere else please. -------------------------------------------- RISE Council Member, RISE Diplomatic Crew Proudly Supplying Breakfast since.......eh
kashkaisha Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.19 12:07:00 - [284] i think its clear then TCF own Venal which is contested by d2 and is ppl ! Since they win every massive fleet engagement so far, they would at least deserve to ave their name on map
Raxxar Friends Corp	Posted - 2006.07.19 15:22:00 - [285] Joshua, I think you should remove that "1600*1200 Desktop Edition by Lorem Mon" cause it's too old and confuse some people.
FatBalls Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.19 22:39:00 - [286] Well, as a it is not your place to point out any rules in this thread and b it does not post that it must be contested by an alliance I guess your point is mute.
Kata Amentis Skyborne Exploration Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.07.19 23:36:00 - [287] Edited by: Kata Amentis on 19/07/2006 23:37:51 ok, this breaks this threads rules a bit, but i have had an idea for the people running these maps... would it be possible to use archives of these wonderful maps to make a short "movie" of the changing face of eve's alliance for eve-tv or some such? you know using each jpeg as a frame? i think it'd be nice to see the movements of the alliance over time... [edit typos] "Up and up, how far can we go? and how far must we fall to get there?"
c0rn1 Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.07.20 00:58:00 - [288] Edited by: c0rn1 on 20/07/2006 01:00:24 Originally by: Komolov Thanks for your maps Joshua. Couple of notes (please update) Mark number 5 (RA vs gangbangers) should be extended on Insmother, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass, Cache and probably southern Detorid. Also please add UCC and -M- to the list of them. We are not attacking V in their home systems in Great Wildlands. So i'm not sure about mark number 3. Well, Komolov, Random Ganksquads don't deserve a Warmarker. Bring us fleet fights first (50+ ppl nowadays) then we can talk about a warzone. Otherwise we'd have to have warzones all over the map. But I agree to point 2 with the marker number 3. Currently no RA presence in -V- homesystems in Greatwildlands. x x x x x x x x x x x x x x -V- Diplomat Life's a waste of time ...
Wraithstorm Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.07.20 03:50:00 - [289] Please remove the ESA marker on the map as we have left the 2 constellations of 304z and S4GH. Thanks!
Irrilian Eve University The Big Blue	Posted - 2006.07.20 04:11:00 - [290] Originally by: zincol Bigblue space - Contested/war zone plz. War zone certainly, contested no. Thank you. - - - The Big Blue, ôExodus realised.ö

dabster Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.20 08:42:00 - [291] Originally by: Kata Amentis Edited by: Kata Amentis on 19/07/2006 23:37:51 ok, this breaks this threads rules a bit, but i have had an idea for the people running these maps... would it be possible to use archives of these wonderful maps to make a short "movie" of the changing face of eve's alliance for eve-tv or some such? you know using each jpeg as a frame? i think it'd be nice to see the movements of the alliance over time... [edit typos] Post #2, Animated Territorial Map ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click.
Stamm Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.20 21:43:00 - [292] Originally by: FatBalls Well, as a it is not your place to point out any rules in this thread and b it does not post that it must be contested by an alliance I guess your point is mute. Alliance. You're not in one, you can't show up on a map of alliances. In addition it's clearly stated that if you don't agree with the map then you should get a represenative of your alliance to contact Joshua to sort it out. When you have an alliance, and thus you can have a representative, you should probably contact him. Hope that helps.
FatBalls Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.21 03:39:00 - [293] Ok, I claim whatever alliance you are in now as my own. I took it and I run it now so put it up. Now then dont make me get sideways or as we say in the suberbs crazy eyed
Komolov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.21 09:02:00 - [294] Originally by: c0rn1 Well, Komolov, Random Ganksquads don't deserve a Warmarker. Bring us fleet fights first (50+ ppl nowadays) then we can talk about a warzone. Otherwise we'd have to have warzones all over the map. I'd like to notice that if you think that blobbing=warring you probably mentally challenged --------------------
Akira Kaneshiro Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.23 17:55:00 - [295] Edited by: Akira Kaneshiro on 23/07/2006 18:05:17 Originally by: dabster Post #2, Animated Territorial Map about 650k (gif animated) http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0607/eve_map_since_108.01.05.gif
Nebba Kenezzer Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.24 08:14:00 - [296] Originally by: Komolov Thanks for your maps Joshua. Couple of notes (please update) Mark number 5 (RA vs gangbangers) should be extended on Insmother, Wicked Creek, Scalding Pass, Cache and probably southern Detorid. Also please add UCC and -M- to the list of them. We are not attacking V in their home systems in Great Wildlands. So i'm not sure about mark number 3. You probably won't be getting a war marker in any regions where you do not field a fleet on (at least) a weekly basis. A war is not inclusive to occasional ganks. Nebba - The Vocal Majority
VeNT Minmatar	Posted - 2006.07.24 15:57:00 - [297] I think you need to update DEK with who owns what realy, as IIRC D2/FLA/IRON have killed off NFC/Sparta except for the random players that try it on now and again. -------------------- Selena 001 > has VeNT left system? its gone really quiet!
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.07.25 12:22:00 - [298] Edited by: Tas Devil on 25/07/2006 12:22:42 I represent FOF alliance. We have sovereignty over 2 constellations in Pure Blind. These are : YS-GOP & LY-FY6. Please amend your map accordingly. I am the sole point of contact for information pertaining to this map for the FOF alliance. Thank you. The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :)
Laythun Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.07.25 18:38:00 - [299] Originally by: Stamm Originally by: FatBalls removed Alliance. You're not in one, you can't show up on a map of alliances. In addition it's clearly stated that if you don't agree with the map then you should get a represenative of your alliance to contact Joshua to sort it out. When you have an alliance, and thus you can have a representative, you should probably contact him. Hope that helps. Afaik Cosmic Fusion last year had there name on the map in northern stain around august september to late november early december. It was a corp. 40members *See You In Space Cowboy*
Xrak Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.26 23:22:00 - [300] Erm didnt want to make a new thread just for this, so asking here. W here have the rules of claiming gone? Like what you need before you can claim an area etc? I thought Joshua had written them down in this thread.

Scorpyn Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 00:04:00 - [301] I'm probably just blind, but I can't find #1 on the map...
TheBelgarion Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.27 00:15:00 - [302] Deklein: FLA claiming/holding Region: RFY-QB,A21H-Z,S-B1E4 D2: claiming/holding Region: D-AWFI Iron: area around JU not sure about exact Regions NFC : is no more, disbanded SPARTA: is no more, disbanded --------------------------------------------------------- a Challenge System for Eve
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.07.28 03:10:00 - [303] FYI ... and I appreciate I'm not a ESA diplomat ... but you may want to also remove ESA from PB ...they have left and do not claim any more sovereignty in Pure Blind. cheers. The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! Oh and apparently the mods tell me there is bad language on his site so beware kids :)
Waut Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.07.28 06:57:00 - [304] Originally by: Tas Devil FYI ... and I appreciate I'm not a ESA diplomat ... but you may want to also remove ESA from PB ...they have left and do not claim any more sovereignty in Pure Blind. cheers. Correct In Soviet EVE, roids pop YOU <-- Future God Emperor of EvE
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.07.29 07:43:00 - [305] Edited by: DB Preacher on 29/07/2006 07:42:53 BoB are now fighting in goonswarm territory in syndicate. We are basing out of S-U8A4, have battlepos in place and are digging in for the foreseeable future. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.29 17:41:00 - [306] Originally by: TheBelgarion Deklein: D2: claiming/holding Region: D-AWFI confirmed, please mark former Sparta territory as Dusk and Dawn territory ________ Asgar[D]¦
shivan Rampage Eternal	Posted - 2006.07.29 17:53:00 - [307] SA no longer claims any sovengity over Stain. Former SA diplo shiv ----------------------------- Need a new sig. Mail me with offers and ideas. 50mill isk to the sig that I use.
Creamster Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2006.07.30 02:23:00 - [308] rip S-A ___________ In LAG we trust
Mr Happ Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.30 16:15:00 - [309] Can we get an update on the map please - it's been well over 2 weeks since the last one Just asking :(
Joshua Foiritain Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.30 23:58:00 - [310] Originally by: Mr Happ Can we get an update on the map please - it's been well over 2 weeks since the last one Just asking :( An update is in the works, unfortunatly i had quite a bit of stuff to sort after my vacation, which lead me to miss the update on the 20th. A new map should be uploaded in about 30 mins. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Eternal Fury Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 02:12:00 - [311] I have to ask this again seeing as I've never found an answer. Where is 1. Pirate infestation. It's been on everymap you've made that I can recall, but I've never actually SEEN the area that's infested with pirates on the map itself. Great job as usual though. good to know I'm living in a contested region :) Brotherhood of Light. Small Corp, Big Fun. Wanna join?
Nalrath Tolahnia WAFFLES Inc. R i s e	Posted - 2006.07.31 02:45:00 - [312] If i recall some of the older maps, No. 1 was used to show the chokepoints and the fact many of them were/are infected with everything and everyone Some Random Map As you can see from that random one i opened (2/12/07 or either side..) No.1 was placed on Syndicate and Pure Blind, and its been used in other area's...hope that helps mate. Anyway Joshua, nice map as always, keep up the good work.
Rehen Celtic Anarchy	Posted - 2006.07.31 10:13:00 - [313] I feel somthing needs to be changed in the fdz area of Geminate, CDC has no control in the area, Celtic Anarchy moved into teh area a month ago and hasent had any oposition killing all we see, and other corps like sas and F-E are doing the same in the area too maby a big fat pirate warning would be nice around here
O'Sirius Amarr	Posted - 2006.07.31 16:19:00 - [314] Why does Deklein still show up as contested? NFC doesn't exsist anymore and OPUS have left the area.
Alexi Kalashnikov Gallente	Posted - 2006.07.31 16:42:00 - [315] While I understand that this is a territorial alliance map, why not add in the ISS trade hubs as little dots or stars, et cetera. I think it would be useful to know where these are so that those in Empire can utilize this map for locations as to how far they can dive into 0.0.
Zubenelgenubi Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.07.31 20:20:00 - [316] Hats off to SE for 100% control over stain. That is quite an achievement Signature file size to big, please keep it under 24000 bytes. Please e-mail us at [email protected] with any questions - Petwraith
hired goon Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.07.31 23:11:00 - [317] There's no more resistance in Deklein. D2 are holding it at least for the moment. Goonfleet have also been expelled from Cloud Ring. D2 control this area again. As well, Venal is under D2 control. -omg-
Devilish Ledoux Caldari	Posted - 2006.07.31 23:28:00 - [318] The Big Blue no longer owns the IPS constellation in Geminate. It is currently owned by Euphoria Unleashed. Sad but true. The Billionaire Buccaneer (A Blog for the Bored)
Gunsnroses Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.08.01 00:07:00 - [319] MoM (Muffins of Mayhem) Along with Evisceration, challenge the claim of the western part of Curse Region.
Avon Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 08:34:00 - [320] Originally by: Alexi Kalashnikov While I understand that this is a territorial alliance map, why not add in the ISS trade hubs as little dots or stars, et cetera. I think it would be useful to know where these are so that those in Empire can utilize this map for locations as to how far they can dive into 0.0. That is actually a pretty good idea. The Battleships is not and should not be a solo pwnmobile - Oveur

Karylia Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 09:56:00 - [321] Originally by: hired goon There's no more resistance in Deklein. D2 are holding it at least for the moment. Goonfleet have also been expelled from Cloud Ring. D2 control this area again. As well, Venal is under D2 control. lol
hired goon Fate. Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.01 10:52:00 - [322] Originally by: Karylia Originally by: hired goon There's no more resistance in Deklein. D2 are holding it at least for the moment. Goonfleet have also been expelled from Cloud Ring. D2 control this area again. As well, Venal is under D2 control. lol Oh, knew I was forgetting someone! ;) Venal is actually ... well I wouldn't say contested... but you can put a conflict marker there. :D -omg-
Heero Yuy Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 19:08:00 - [323] Current status in Deklein is that D2 holds D-AWFI, FLA holds RFY-QB, A21H-Z and S-B1E4 while IRON holds the remainder.
Raid Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.01 23:18:00 - [324] Originally by: Gunsnroses Edited by: Gunsnroses on 01/08/2006 22:51:49 MoM (Muffins of Mayhem) Along with Evisceration, challenge the claim of the western part of Curse Region. Specifically the Paradise Constilation Since you dont live in the same space as us please post up your area of operations. Im sure you'll find your way on the map that way.
WETRAIN Minmatar	Posted - 2006.08.01 23:22:00 - [325] Originally by: hired goon Venal is under D2 control. uhm .. dude.. no way . . Yes ... I am back ... cant freaking quit ..
Gunsnroses Hmmzor. Muffins of Mayhem	Posted - 2006.08.01 23:43:00 - [326] Originally by: WETRAIN Edited by: WETRAIN on 01/08/2006 23:26:29 Originally by: hired goon Venal is under D2 control. uhm .. dude.. no way As for MoM they are curently docked in J7A- and well "fighting us" they had a POS anchored , large one , and we stole it. so MoM is a no go atm. We are clearing them out from "their space" This thread is not the place for this, and your post will be removed. We claim j7a, jwj, v-iuel
HatePeace LoveWar Amarr	Posted - 2006.08.02 00:12:00 - [327] Curse is a conflicted area. http://members.lycos.co.uk/snailbrain/hateme.jpg signature removed (max size 24000 bytes) - please email us (with the signature URL) if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Uggs386 Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.08.02 02:05:00 - [328] Originally by: Devilish Ledoux The Big Blue no longer owns the IPS constellation in Geminate. It is currently owned by Euphoria Unleashed. Sad but true. this is true, but it is euphoria unleashed and friends. (SAS, TC, Exotic Dancers, F-E) Removed, inappropriate signature image - zhuge
Raid Caldari	Posted - 2006.08.02 03:09:00 - [329] Originally by: HatePeace LoveWar Curse is a conflicted area. Unlike Stain, venal and Fountain lines of control do exist in Curse and they are captured on the map.
TuRtLe HeAd Apocalypse Enterprises	Posted - 2006.08.02 08:53:00 - [330] RISE have top half of syndicate, and Lower end is contested by BoB and Goonfleet. Both are Questionable, I think in future Syndicate should just be left out of the picture. its under Intaki control, Which is an NPC corporation. The only area of contest in Syndicate is 1 System out of a region. It hardly constitutes the lower end. Maybe a Side note on the legend stating S-U8A4 is contested, because the rest of syndicate is as free as a bird. We Sure as hell never see any action in the lower half of syndicate and we've been living in 7 systems for the last Year or so.

Nalrath Tolahnia WAFFLES Inc. R i s e	Posted - 2006.08.02 11:37:00 - [331] Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd RISE have top half of syndicate Thats actually a misconception because of the way the map displays claims, Syndicate's constellations on a 2D prospective criss-cross all over the place, RISE only claims those syndicate Constellations situated behind the Chokepoint C0T-77 (IE those syndicate constellations only accessible via the Outer Ring Entry Point), those being (if memory recalls) the 6-V/QS/SKX constellations, what would be seen on the map as Northern/Southern/Central syndicate has nothing to do with us, its just hard to get an accurate representation of that on the map in 2D form (josh does a good job showing claims in syndicate, considering its a really messy Region in 2D form). Best Regards, Nal
Ichabod Crane Gallente LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.02 18:51:00 - [332] Originally by: Nalrath Tolahnia Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd RISE have top half of syndicate Thats actually a misconception because of the way the map displays claims, Syndicate's constellations on a 2D prospective criss-cross all over the place, RISE only claims those syndicate Constellations situated behind the Chokepoint C0T-77 (IE those syndicate constellations only accessible via the Outer Ring Entry Point), those being (if memory recalls) the 6-V/QS/SKX constellations, what would be seen on the map as Northern/Southern/Central syndicate has nothing to do with us, its just hard to get an accurate representation of that on the map in 2D form (josh does a good job showing claims in syndicate, considering its a really messy Region in 2D form). Best Regards, Nal Agree. Same with JQV/MK7 that overlaps northern solitude and Y4Y which overlaps TA-A7V. Its not possible to get a completely accurate map in 2D but it more or less shows the information correctly. Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd The only area of contest in Syndicate is 1 System out of a region. It hardly constitutes the lower end. Maybe a Side note on the legend stating S-U8A4 is contested, because the rest of syndicate is as free as a bird. We Sure as hell never see any action in the lower half of syndicate and we've been living in 7 systems for the last Year or so. I dont know which seven systems you are living in, but they certainly arent in lower syndicate Theres plenty of fighting between five different alliances in LS atm, so how you are unaware of any 'action' there is beyond me. -
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.03 09:05:00 - [333] Originally by: hired goon There's no more resistance in Deklein. D2 are holding it at least for the moment. Goonfleet have also been expelled from Cloud Ring. D2 control this area again. As well, Venal is under D2 control. Hmm I dont want to flamme but for claiming Venal a D2 territory its totally false..why? 1)its a Gurista territory...like you always say to all TCF members that claim the south of Venal for a while... 2) Venal still a totally warzone with multifaction ((TCF,POE,ZAF,Solid,Beagle, Russian tunder squad, Die trying,etc)) and d2 are not the primary force here! I hope Joshua should take the facts in consideration in the next map To the flammer of Venal The unofficial reason why TCF stay docking in the npc stations was its have a lots of chicks inside!!!Yes chicks,why figth if we can have fun with girl!?:P
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.08.03 13:00:00 - [334] There are a lot of citizen alliances these days, living in protectorates under the entitys shown on the map. It'd be a lot more interesting if these underlings were shown in the map in some capacity too, if only in the interest of speculation and conflict, anticipating the new powers and the stength of a region. Looking For Ventrilo Hosting
Kent Druall	Posted - 2006.08.03 17:17:00 - [335] But that would be free intel...
Himo Amasacia Minmatar Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion	Posted - 2006.08.04 13:26:00 - [336] Originally by: Ichabod Crane I dont know which seven systems you are living in, but they certainly arent in lower syndicate Theres plenty of fighting between five different alliances in LS atm, so how you are unaware of any 'action' there is beyond me. Apocalypse Enterprises live in KFR-ZE mostly FYI.
Ichabod Crane Gallente LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.04 15:33:00 - [337] Originally by: Himo Amasacia Originally by: Ichabod Crane I dont know which seven systems you are living in, but they certainly arent in lower syndicate Theres plenty of fighting between five different alliances in LS atm, so how you are unaware of any 'action' there is beyond me. Apocalypse Enterprises live in KFR-ZE mostly FYI. Aha. KFR-ZE is in northern syndicate on the solitude border, its generally recognised by its inhabitants that Lower-Syndicate is all systems between Y9G-KS (the southern border to solitude) 6-CZ49 (the eastern border) and MHC-R3 (the northern most border system of LS) Of course those boundaries are open to individual perceptions. But at any rate, as far as I am aware neither Goonswarm nor BoB or any other LS alliance with the possible exception of Black Reign Syndicate are active in the northern end of Syndicate. -
Danton Marcellus Nebula Rasa Holdings	Posted - 2006.08.04 16:02:00 - [338] Originally by: Kent Druall But that would be free intel... I thought that was what the map was all about. Looking For Ventrilo Hosting
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.04 16:35:00 - [339] Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.05 11:21:00 - [340] Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/08/2006 11:21:37 Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/08/2006 11:21:07 Lower part of cache with stations - contested space, please. [sp 4tl ] Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.

Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.05 18:03:00 - [341] Originally by: Evil Thug Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/08/2006 11:21:37 Edited by: Evil Thug on 05/08/2006 11:21:07 Lower part of cache with stations - contested space, please. [sp 4tl ] catch
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.08.06 18:05:00 - [342] Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp should be done with all NPC Regions tbh ________ Asgar[D]¦
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.06 19:09:00 - [343] Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp should be done with all NPC Regions tbh Signed! Till the expansion Kali with the npc faction mode, all NPC region cannot be claimed by any alliance for the moment! TCF, the first alliance in Eve online to win mysteriously all its battles by staying docking in NPC stations (;
Ichabod Crane Gallente LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.06 19:39:00 - [344] Edited by: Ichabod Crane on 06/08/2006 19:39:13 Yes because we all know having system sovereignty over an area is unquestionable evidence of its control -
DrLogan New Age Solutions	Posted - 2006.08.06 23:14:00 - [345] Goons have left Cloud Ring, D2 has given control of CR to RISE.
Solarienne Caldari Steel Frontier Ekliptika	Posted - 2006.08.07 14:07:00 - [346] Hello. As the Respresentative of Ekliptika I would like to thankyou for the map and make only one request. Ekliptika has a strong presence in the MDM8 constellation in PureBlind (the constellation leading into Tribute), and we would apreciate it very much if our claim was recognised :). Thankyou again for an invaluable resource. Solarienne POS Managers WANTED!
munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.08.08 00:57:00 - [347] SE disbanded, and stain was never under their control anyway, was better with the multi factional warzone --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.08 13:39:00 - [348] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp should be done with all NPC Regions tbh Signed! Till the expansion Kali with the npc faction mode, all NPC region cannot be claimed by any alliance for the moment! I am commenting on this because it applies to my alliance, so please dont delete this too quickly. There are 2 reasons why some NPC regions should have claimed markers. 1. If there are clearly defined borders within an NPC region and you can identify who is living there then why not section it off to display acurate information? 2. Some alliance (my own in particular) have worked VERY hard over the past year to ocupy and exert considerable control over the constellations that we control. We do not pretend to live in the whole region but we do make sure you know where our boarders are. Removing this from the map would be extremely misleading.
Nav'tsa kin	Posted - 2006.08.08 17:29:00 - [349] Great Wilderlands needs to be marked as WarZone: Veritas Immortalis vs. Great Wilderlands Locals You can reference the locals killboard, in game here: http://www.eden-online.com We are averaging 27-30 -V-/Coalation Kills perday for the last 2 months.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.08 21:06:00 - [350] Originally by: Raid Originally by: Emrod Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp should be done with all NPC Regions tbh Signed! Till the expansion Kali with the npc faction mode, all NPC region cannot be claimed by any alliance for the moment! I am commenting on this because it applies to my alliance, so please dont delete this too quickly. There are 2 reasons why some NPC regions should have claimed markers. 1. If there are clearly defined borders within an NPC region and you can identify who is living there then why not section it off to display acurate information? 2. Some alliance (my own in particular) have worked VERY hard over the past year to ocupy and exert considerable control over the constellations that we control. We do not pretend to live in the whole region but we do make sure you know where our boarders are. Removing this from the map would be extremely misleading. Good points!" In the matter if an alliance are the majority prensence in a npc space in 0.0, i admit it can be claimed. But claiming Like the member of d2 thath claim all of Venal...and we all kown thaht venal is total warzone mess ....nobody cannot claimed it! But if a alliance do the same effort like you describe and be the first force in constellation or system,region,etc...it can be logic to be claimed TCF, the first alliance in Eve online to win mysteriously all its battles by staying docking in NPC stations (;

Nav'tsa kin	Posted - 2006.08.09 14:21:00 - [351] Great Wilderlands is conflicted between the GW locals and -V- You can see the data here: http://www.eden-online.com
Xodius Raldari Amarr Sammael's Legion	Posted - 2006.08.09 23:57:00 - [352] i fail to understand how a 3man alliance can hold all of stain (SE is AAA now
Kyguard LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.10 00:26:00 - [353] Originally by: Xodius Raldari i fail to understand how a 3man alliance can hold all of stain (SE is AAA now SE disbanded after the latest map was made. When the map is next updated, I'm sure it will be fixed - please relax === God is on the side with the best artillery.
Serenity Steele Rearden Steele Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.11 05:07:00 - [354] Animated Map Updated to v108.08.10
Oreh Anavrin The Blackwater Brigade	Posted - 2006.08.11 07:11:00 - [355] AAA own eastern Catch and FIX own FAT. Huzzah disbanded.
Another Alt	Posted - 2006.08.11 07:50:00 - [356] Quote: 4) Curse Coalition vs IAC 4) Great Wildlands locals vs Veritas Immortalis Shouldn't that other be, you know, 5?
Zoltaris COLSUP Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.11 13:16:00 - [357] Tribute should be put as a warzone or as contested Here's a video that prove that greats battles are going on it that region And here's a picture of how the map should be to show the current situation in Tribute ----- > Order Falcon & Pilgrim
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:13:00 - [358] Edited by: Light Darkness on 11/08/2006 14:14:28 TBH Josh. But to marks GW "against GW locals" isnt really needed. Or you have to mark every system where you see "a few" trying to get easie kills. -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Baldigan Joackim Jarizza Syndicate Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.08.11 14:27:00 - [359] the number 4 mark si present 2 times ... in the legend
Wakusasse	Posted - 2006.08.11 16:51:00 - [360] Originally by: Light Darkness -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD I guess that would depend on what time you're logged on. I definately see problems.

AnubsiRa Nun Amun Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.11 19:55:00 - [361] Originally by: Wakusasse Originally by: Light Darkness -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD I guess that would depend on what time you're logged on. I definately see problems. if you mean that 4 ppl (Hostiles for -V-) gank sometimes 7Q and run if some of us enters local... yes we have a Problem, but a problem to catch them cloaked on SS nothing else. you have the same 6-7 different ppl in that and only that System to different Times so mostly 4 at the same time. Ad only Gorgon have the Balls to stay rest can only hide and spam or gank a single ship. Sry for this unprofessional post and my bad english. But this mark is needed then in hole eve.
TuRtLe HeAd Apocalypse Enterprises	Posted - 2006.08.12 07:28:00 - [362] Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp Thank you.
Mr Happ Gallente Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.08.12 08:26:00 - [363] Originally by: AnubsiRa Originally by: Wakusasse Originally by: Light Darkness -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD I guess that would depend on what time you're logged on. I definately see problems. if you mean that 4 ppl (Hostiles for -V-) gank sometimes 7Q and run if some of us enters local... yes we have a Problem, but a problem to catch them cloaked on SS nothing else. you have the same 6-7 different ppl in that and only that System to different Times so mostly 4 at the same time. Ad only Gorgon have the Balls to stay rest can only hide and spam or gank a single ship. Sry for this unprofessional post and my bad english. But this mark is needed then in hole eve. Great Wildlands - contested, period kthxbye
Megri Muppet Fuggers	Posted - 2006.08.12 11:57:00 - [364] Originally by: Light Darkness Edited by: Light Darkness on 11/08/2006 14:14:28 TBH Josh. But to marks GW "against GW locals" isnt really needed. Or you have to mark every system where you see "a few" trying to get easie kills. -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD We are getting 50-60 kills per day, and our few consists of much more then you lead yourself to beleive. Maybe you should have your pilots post their losses. This is not just MUFU, and I am not the leader in anyway. There are several alliances and several corps involved. Feel free to reference the Wildlands killboards for a true picture of whats going on. Wildlands board: http://www.eden-online.com In Game Killboard - Rent one like this... http://www.eden-online.com
Srbin Dominator WEPRA CORP Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.08.12 16:19:00 - [365] Originally by: Zoltaris Tribute should be put as a warzone or as contested Here's a video that prove that greats battles are going on it that region And here's a picture of how the map should be to show the current situation in Tribute LOL, nice picture I like it Update of the current situation in Tribute: At this moment Morsus Mihi & friends are still in control of Tribute (main system H-W is ours, station is ours. At this moment we are cleaning the last of the remaining forces of TCF in D7-system. TCF keep the good fights comming, great playing without smacking !!! We will give an update if there is any change regarding the current situation. Srbin Dominator High Command [RAWR]- Morsus Mihi
Ichabod Crane Gallente LFC 3rd Front Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.12 16:24:00 - [366] Originally by: TuRtLe HeAd Originally by: DB Preacher Too many alliances, too little space in Syndicate. Just mark it as Multi-factional as it has no overall controllers. dbp Thank you. That would be fine if every alliance in syndicate was making a terratorial claim. But there are only three that do so and in seperate areas, the map can accomodate that as it has done in the past. -
Rajon Kelper Omacron Militia Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.12 17:20:00 - [367] Originally by: Megri We are getting 50-60 kills per day, and our few consists of much more then you lead yourself to beleive. Maybe you should have your pilots post their losses. This is not just MUFU, and I am not the leader in anyway. There are several alliances and several corps involved. Feel free to reference the Wildlands killboards for a true picture of whats going on. Wildlands board: http://www.eden-online.com After looking at your KB and being in GW (getting a feel for the 'real' situation as best as possible), I think the problem is simply that you're considering camping 1 pipe system as qualifying the entire region as being contested. 99% of your kills occur in 7q-, with only a few other ganks here and there in other systems. Hardly contested. --------------------------------------------------- "The art of war is simple enough. Find out where your enemy is. Get at him as soon as you can. Strike him as hard as you can, and keep moving."
Khayman33 Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.08.13 01:35:00 - [368] Originally by: Srbin Dominator Originally by: Zoltaris Tribute should be put as a warzone or as contested Here's a video that prove that greats battles are going on it that region And here's a picture of how the map should be to show the current situation in Tribute LOL, nice picture I like it Update of the current situation in Tribute: At this moment Morsus Mihi & friends are still in control of Tribute (main system H-W is ours, station is ours. At this moment we are cleaning the last of the remaining forces of TCF in D7-system. TCF keep the good fights comming, great playing without smacking !!! We will give an update if there is any change regarding the current situation. Srbin Dominator High Command [RAWR]- Morsus Mihi Update of the current situation in tribute: At this moment TCF and TCF are still control of D7- , station is ours At this moment we are finishing morsus mihi and see a majority of D2,RZR, others Keep the good fight all and the truth .
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.13 01:37:00 - [369] Edited by: Light Darkness on 13/08/2006 01:38:34 Originally by: Megri Originally by: Light Darkness Edited by: Light Darkness on 11/08/2006 14:14:28 TBH Josh. But to marks GW "against GW locals" isnt really needed. Or you have to mark every system where you see "a few" trying to get easie kills. -V- still have GW under control without problems. Regards /LD We are getting 50-60 kills per day, and our few consists of much more then you lead yourself to beleive. Maybe you should have your pilots post their losses. This is not just MUFU, and I am not the leader in anyway. There are several alliances and several corps involved. Feel free to reference the Wildlands killboards for a true picture of whats going on. Wildlands board: http://www.eden-online.com i will accept your word immidiently if i see everyday a large enemy force flying around there. But you dont show up. Only jump into 7q-...gank a ship and hops back into Khabi isnt a point to claim any systems. Also you will find in every region flying some pirate corps around. That is the live. They gank here and there. No problem. V members fault if they dont look into the local. But "your KB" dont count for me. So lets mark every region as "XY Region locals against XY Region Alliance". BTW: A "RA supported Corp" putted a POS into ci4 and the POS dont lived longer then 36 hours.... Regards /LD --------------------- -V-eritas Immortalis Killboard
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.14 10:49:00 - [370] aAa is claiming lower part of catch with stations. We will also keep our presense in Stain, as well as its our legacy from SE time. Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.

Chowdown Gallente Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.08.14 21:34:00 - [371] UCC hold 995, and have done for a while, 5 map changes. Please acknowledge this.
Mr Happ Gallente Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.08.15 09:54:00 - [372] Originally by: Evil Thug aAa is claiming lower part of catch with stations. We will also keep our presense in Stain, as well as its our legacy from SE time. Stain cannot be claimed, it's been proved over the last 8 months, so many people live there that no one can fully claim it due to the NPC stations in the area
Digiblast Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.15 19:26:00 - [373] Joshua Foiritain . Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. There are Refinery stations there and Agent missinos there. Everybody can dock at any stations in thouse Regions. So it's simply not right to say anybody own any of thouse Regions.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.15 20:50:00 - [374] Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Digiblast Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.15 20:57:00 - [375] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. It was worth to try thou.... MWUAAHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHHAHAHAHAHA
Muad'dib The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.16 14:20:00 - [376] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. Well update accordingly, AAA owns Catch.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.08.16 20:17:00 - [377] Fountain is a warzone, specifically around the YZ- area. Aggressors are Outbreak/Celest. Other random pirate corps are around but nothing of note. Cheers, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Nebuli Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.17 03:15:00 - [378] Originally by: Muad'dib Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. Well update accordingly, AAA owns Catch. Blimey give the bloke a chance, he does this off his own back, not like he is going to update the map the instant YOU feel he should because you have laid claim to something. He will do it in his own good time. CEO - Art of War
Muad'dib The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.08.17 10:30:00 - [379] Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Muad'dib Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. Well update accordingly, AAA owns Catch. Blimey give the bloke a chance, he does this off his own back, not like he is going to update the map the instant YOU feel he should because you have laid claim to something. He will do it in his own good time. Keep your pants on, i¦m not rushing the bloke. He's doing a good job i know that. Just keep your opinions to yourself, i¦m just stating a fact for him to use in his next update.
Gypsy Djinn V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.08.17 11:08:00 - [380] cDc officially requests that Vale of the Silent be shown as a joint ownership between cDc and PURE Alliance as referenced here: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=380244 Gypsy Djinn - cDc President ..: cDc Headquarters :..

Nebuli Caldari Art of War	Posted - 2006.08.19 13:44:00 - [381] Originally by: Muad'dib Originally by: Nebuli Originally by: Muad'dib Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Digiblast Please set all Faction Regions into War zone or say it's owned by the faction. In that case ppl that don't know the 0.0 so well might realice that 0.0 Space like Fountain, Stain, Curse and other Regions are safe systems like Empire but just no Concord. Sorry the purpose of this map is not lure unsuspecting empire populace into 0.0 so some alliance have a few easy ganks. Those regions are exactly what they are on the map, claimed or a messy warzone. Well update accordingly, AAA owns Catch. Blimey give the bloke a chance, he does this off his own back, not like he is going to update the map the instant YOU feel he should because you have laid claim to something. He will do it in his own good time. Keep your pants on, i¦m not rushing the bloke. He's doing a good job i know that. Just keep your opinions to yourself, i¦m just stating a fact for him to use in his next update. Well I appolagise, I just got the impression that all 5 or 6 of your posts, done by 4 or 5 different people hammering home the point were trying your hardest to get your little bit of space on the map asap, and your reply sounded along those lines also. CEO - Art of War
Aranin Amarr Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.08.21 06:24:00 - [382] why are RA shown to hold cache when they hold none of the stations there...? Signature removed - Filz size too large.Laurelin
MACTEP Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.21 09:26:00 - [383] Originally by: Aranin why are RA shown to hold cache when they hold none of the stations there...? wake up and purchase glasses )
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.21 09:26:00 - [384] Actually I'm more concerned at why Joshua didn't add f2a- station on the map? Joshua please check RA claim status and update accordingly. P.S. clueless newbs ftl :D - BH
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.21 12:33:00 - [385] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Actually I'm more concerned at why Joshua didn't add f2a- station on the map? Joshua please check RA claim status and update accordingly. P.S. clueless newbs ftl :D Hmm i missed that one, will fix it later today. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Cythrawl Caldari Central Defiance	Posted - 2006.08.22 09:09:00 - [386] Not too much to say except that UK space needs updating and should be added to a warzone. Right now Coalition of Carebear Killers, The Establishment and Finite Horizons are trying to lay claim/destroy Ushra'Khan. Involved parties on the side of UK are Imperial Order(mostly in defense of their own space), minor corps friendly to UK, UK itself and the occasional ISSN fleet blasting groups of gate campers in the way of their assets. IO holds its own little niche on the edge of Providence and ISS, of course, has its stations open below UK space into Catch. Flying is just learning how to fall without crashing.
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.08.22 20:42:00 - [387] As Cythrawl says, Northern Providence is now a war zone. Its going to get messy.
Pastora Russian SOBR Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.23 13:29:00 - [388] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Hmm i missed that one, will fix it later today. The long todays you have there :) _______________________________________________ If ifs and ands were pots and pans, I would grow mushrooms in my pants.
hexy Locus Solus	Posted - 2006.08.26 01:39:00 - [389] Originally by: Pastora Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Hmm i missed that one, will fix it later today. The long todays you have there :) You pay his day job then, in other news i claim nothing.
Skyraker7 Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.08.26 18:57:00 - [390] CC and 187 are contesting space in Curse.

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.08.27 00:54:00 - [391] Originally by: Skyraker7 CC and 187 are contesting space in Curse. Define space; All of it? The CC claimed bit? A single System? Any system whose name begins with a 7? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.08.27 07:36:00 - [392] Originally by: Cythrawl Not too much to say except that UK space needs updating and should be added to a warzone. Right now Coalition of Carebear Killers, The Establishment and Finite Horizons are trying to lay claim/destroy Ushra'Khan. Involved parties on the side of UK are Imperial Order(mostly in defense of their own space), minor corps friendly to UK, UK itself and the occasional ISSN fleet blasting groups of gate campers in the way of their assets. IO holds its own little niche on the edge of Providence and ISS, of course, has its stations open below UK space into Catch. Add Ethereal Dawn and Veto to the list of Anti U'K forces.
WETRAIN Minmatar Phantom Squad	Posted - 2006.08.27 17:55:00 - [393] Ex-CC space is a clusterF**k atm... so dont mark it at all with all the V, ISS, CC, BLOOD OF inocents , IAC and alot more others roaming around .. i suggest nothin should be placed there for the moment. Regards O RLY!???????? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When the People are Ready the Master will come. - D R S -
Skyraker7 Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.08.28 22:11:00 - [394] Quote: Ex-CC space is a clusterF**k atm... so dont mark it at all with all the V, ISS, CC, BLOOD OF inocents , IAC and alot more others roaming around .. i suggest nothin should be placed there for the moment. Yeah, can't argue with that.
Keta Min Pre-nerfed Tactics Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.08.29 12:46:00 - [395] Originally by: WETRAIN Ex-CC space is a clusterF**k atm... so dont mark it at all with all the V, ISS, CC, BLOOD OF inocents , IAC and alot more others roaming around .. i suggest nothin should be placed there for the moment. Regards true, maybe mark it as multi faction warzone.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.08.29 19:26:00 - [396] I will agree to a multi faction warzone marker or no marker at all.
WETRAIN Minmatar Phantom Squad iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.08.30 18:31:00 - [397] Edited by: WETRAIN on 30/08/2006 18:31:08 PHA space is now iPOD alliance space ... thank you O RLY!???????? - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - When the People are Ready the Master will come. - D R S -
Doctor Draw The Greater Goon	Posted - 2006.08.31 08:00:00 - [398] Edited by: Doctor Draw on 31/08/2006 08:01:45 The Greater Goon hereby officially throws its support and the staggering weight of its corporation behind the locals in the Great Wildlands region. We will fight alongside all locals who struggle to throw off the oppressive shackles of Veritas Immortalis. This barbaric occupation must end so that the endless party of ages may continue to rock the face off of the galaxy.
Andrew Gunn Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.01 10:31:00 - [399] Maelstrom Alliance now claims the constellations of Immensea: C73-U5, Y46-EN, MY-QQI and RTCU-5. Chimera Pact can confirm this claim. Maelstrom controls North Immensea, Chimera Pact controls South Immensea in a joint effort to defend and grow the region. -- Capital Ship Build Info
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.01 11:17:00 - [400] Fountain is no longer a warzone. Outbreak have left. Celest are simply back to pirating the area when they are online, no proper fleet battles are occuring. Cheers, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.01 16:04:00 - [401] Originally by: DB Preacher Fountain is no longer a warzone. Outbreak have left. Celest are simply back to pirating the area when they are online, no proper fleet battles are occuring. Cheers, dbp That was fast ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.09.01 16:46:00 - [402] Edited by: DB Preacher on 01/09/2006 16:46:18 yeah, RKK were looking forward to getting a week fighting outbreak/celest as well but Outbreak left so we're back to chasing ghosts. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
zaltock Caldari Original Black Plague Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.09.03 06:25:00 - [403] 187 Claims the Space of Doril, Jorund, Jamunda, Utopia, Hemin, Litom, RMOC, YKE, CL-85, AAM-1A, 8G-MQV and Farit.
omega2 Gallente Jion Keanturi iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.03 20:31:00 - [404] Originally by: zaltock 187 Claims the Space of Doril, Jorund, Jamunda, Utopia, Hemin, Litom, RMOC, YKE, CL-85, AAM-1A, 8G-MQV and Farit. that i can confirm S:
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.09.03 22:20:00 - [405] Update coming tommorow! \o/ Some real life projects got in the way of getting it done before the 30th. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.04 18:12:00 - [406] Originally by: zaltock 187 Claims the Space of Doril, Jorund, Jamunda, Utopia, Hemin, Litom, RMOC, YKE, CL-85, AAM-1A, 8G-MQV and Farit. That would be misleading and VERY inacurate. There are far too many factions flying around for you to say something like that. This is an NPC region you need work a lot harder to get something shown.
zaltock Caldari Original Black Plague Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.09.04 20:36:00 - [407] Actually you are wrong Raid. You as Curse Coalition live in Dysa, so you wouldnt know who controled our space. Hence staying docked or cloaked does not mean you are defending it. Carry on to Dysa and form new Alliance with different name. Curse Coalition is dead and controll no space in Curse region.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.05 01:59:00 - [408] Since your new to this ill tell you the rules. This isnt a discussion thread.. You stated your point, i stated mine, josh comes up with the final decision because both of us are bias. You wont win a war like this so stop wasting everyones time.
Mr Happ Gallente Hellbound Saints	Posted - 2006.09.05 02:23:00 - [409] Originally by: Raid Since your new to this ill tell you the rules. This isnt a discussion thread.. You stated your point, i stated mine, josh comes up with the final decision because both of us are bias. You wont win a war like this so stop wasting everyones time. Rules or no rules, don't slam another alliance simply because yours failed, end of story. If he claims and anyone apart from you says it's not true he wont get maked, end of story kthxbye We need a YEAR without ANY 'new content'. Nothing but BUG FIXES. New content that does not work is WORTHLESS.
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.05 04:06:00 - [410] Originally by: Mr Happ Originally by: Raid Since your new to this ill tell you the rules. This isnt a discussion thread.. You stated your point, i stated mine, josh comes up with the final decision because both of us are bias. You wont win a war like this so stop wasting everyones time. Rules or no rules, don't slam another alliance simply because yours failed, end of story. If he claims and anyone apart from you says it's not true he wont get maked, end of story kthxbye Where did i slam an alliance? What have we failed in? This is a map thread! Everyone is responsible for making this resource as acurate as possible. Whats reflected on the map does not come down to "if he claims and anyone apart from you says it's not true he wont get maked, end of story". Simply put... Posting here with or without "backup" does not mean that it reflects whats really going on ingame.

patteSatan Celtic Anarchy Black Reign Syndicate	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:16:00 - [411] Edited by: patteSatan on 05/09/2006 14:18:03 Originally by: Raid Originally by: zaltock 187 Claims the Space of Doril, Jorund, Jamunda, Utopia, Hemin, Litom, RMOC, YKE, CL-85, AAM-1A, 8G-MQV and Farit. That would be misleading and VERY inacurate. There are far too many factions flying around for you to say something like that. This is an NPC region you need work a lot harder to get something shown. Interesting...he's doing exactly what you have done, and you tell him he cant do it... Go play CS Raid ============================================ So what?? You killed me?? Clickety I DON'T CARE, GRIEFER
niroshido Caldari Frontline Defense Force Maelstrom Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.05 14:51:00 - [412] MODERATION PLEASE these words here is in avoidance of a 2 word post which is not normal for me, as i dont like leaving empty spaces on forums [orange]Signature removed due to incorrect size (400X120px and 24000 bytes). Please review the forum rules or mailto:[email protected]"
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Curse Coalition	Posted - 2006.09.05 15:26:00 - [413] Originally by: patteSatan Interesting...he's doing exactly what you have done, and you tell him he cant do it... Go play CS Raid Check out post number 51 before you make another uninformed remark. Its a moot point regardless as the map has already been updated and does indeed acurately reflect the situation.
Pylse Gallente The Establishment Establishment	Posted - 2006.09.05 17:20:00 - [414] You forgot Without Reason in your footnote about upper Providence.
LTD THOR Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.09.07 10:02:00 - [415] i¦m still impressed of the GW war against "local residents".. in the GW¦s still -V-¦s represent locals since ages! the hours in timezones who no one cares in -V- about pirate camps on the GW hotspots between empire/0.0 still countin as "war" for the whole region? My 1st video : =RED WARS-The Beginning= ;)
Masu'di Es and Whizz	Posted - 2006.09.07 13:16:00 - [416] Originally by: LTD THOR Edited by: LTD THOR on 07/09/2006 10:07:40 i¦m still impressed of the GW war against "local residents".. in the GW¦s still -V-¦s represent locals since ages! some hours in timezones who no one cares in -V- about pirate presents/camps at the GW hotspots between empire/0.0 still countin as "war against whatever" for the whole region? i agree with you that the marker could be moved to the left a little, to more accurately represent the situation.
Raeff Caldari Millennium E.R.A	Posted - 2006.09.07 19:49:00 - [417] Edited by: Raeff on 07/09/2006 19:50:39 Curse is very much a free for all atm .. you would need one hell of a military force to even begin to stake a claim to it, and noone there does .. you have about 7-9 different alliances roaming freely killing each other .. my alliance has been in the area now for 4-5 weeks and all i gotta say is its one crazy place .. as far as i know, we stake no claim there .. just here for some pvp and npc action
welsh wizard Celestial Apocalypse	Posted - 2006.09.12 22:50:00 - [418] Edited by: welsh wizard on 12/09/2006 22:52:07 nm delete, waste of time.
Alha Qmar Caldari Xenon Logistics	Posted - 2006.09.13 18:05:00 - [419] Insmother is now completely red alliance
nync UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.14 10:54:00 - [420] All stations in Insmother region belongs to Red Alliance now. N7-BIY was taken yesterday, claim will switch to RA today after DT . Some KOS mining pos'es still present in region, but not for long.

fume	Posted - 2006.09.15 18:47:00 - [421] Edited by: fume on 15/09/2006 18:48:34 Originally by: Pylse You forgot Without Reason in your footnote about upper Providence. And Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
Mangold Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.19 07:05:00 - [422] You may want to add MoM to the warzone in Providence.
Gurastas Arrogator	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:53:00 - [423] Curse corridor is 187 as CC no longer challenge in any way. The rest of curse is a free for all.
Skyraker7 Armoured Assassins Blood of the Innocents	Posted - 2006.09.20 13:53:00 - [424] I should post with my main...sorry
Gurastas Arrogator	Posted - 2006.09.20 23:24:00 - [425] Update It seems CC have quit the area and gone to join VI... job done!
Hardin Amarr Imperial Dreams Curatores Veritatis Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.21 22:56:00 - [426] Edited by: Hardin on 21/09/2006 22:57:47 You should probably put a 'pirate' flag over CVA area at the moment as CVA are currently in a struggle with SAS / The Corporation / Teamsters & some individuals from North Star Networks. CVA is not moving and we are having some interesting tussles - but neutrals in the area are paying the price at the moment as they are being targeted by our enemies and we cannot provide the usual level of protection that neutrals in this area normally enjoy. Hopefully normal service will be resumed shortly Amarr Victor ------------------------------
Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.09.22 10:33:00 - [427] Triumvirate/RISK are currently fighting FOF/EKP + Friends inside Pureblind.
Torrence Osti A.W.M	Posted - 2006.09.22 21:58:00 - [428] Originally by: Serenity Steele Animated Map Updated to v108.08.10 This map is nice but can you slow it down?
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.09.23 05:10:00 - [429] Who is UCC on the map near Red alliance? Member of the coalition or friend of Ra?? The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
Hllaxiu Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.23 05:28:00 - [430] Shouldn't you have something marking the stain region? --- Our greatest glory is not in never failing, but in rising up every time we fail. - Emerson

Graalum Foundation	Posted - 2006.09.23 05:56:00 - [431] its really none of my business, but shoudln't cloud ring at least have a warmarker? I heard youwhat retook the xhz station again after however long its been.
Srbin Dominator WEPRA CORP Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.09.23 14:08:00 - [432] hi, Here is an update regarding TRIBUTE: All Tribute is under control of Morsus Mihi [RAWR]. Please remove the mark "A" as Contested Region on Tribute. Also all three stations are under control of Morsus Mihi. note: Tribute is no longer shared between GUARD and RAWR Srbin Dominator
Ethan Hawk German Space Corp. G.U.A.R.D.	Posted - 2006.09.23 14:58:00 - [433] signed on behalf of GUARD Alliance Ethan Hawk GUARD Ambassador
Izo Azlion Veto.	Posted - 2006.09.23 15:49:00 - [434] Number 6 - The sides on the Coalition side are fine... But Ushra'Khan have been working alongside ISS, and MC are getting involved. Others have been involved, but these are the other two major powers currently in the area. I believe I'm correct in saying that. If I am not, then apologies, but that is as I see it. Thanks, Izo Azlion. ---
Novalinn Gallente Ronin Initiative	Posted - 2006.09.25 17:50:00 - [435] Is there something wrong with EVE-Files? cause i have tried to load the map in Opera and Firefox and it won¦t show, do you need Explorer or what?
TalanR Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.09.26 10:29:00 - [436] Imperium Alliance has joined the fight in Great Wildlands on the side of the "GW locals". TalanR Imperium Diplomat
Maggot Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.09.26 12:20:00 - [437] The Ushra'khan corridor is no longer contested. Maggot.
In'Nala Equilibrium LLC United Confederation of Corporations	Posted - 2006.09.26 18:32:00 - [438] Originally by: Emrod Who is UCC on the map near Red alliance? Member of the coalition or friend of Ra?? Coalition. However, we've just recently been pushed out of that space. Next map should show RA holding all of cache. In'Nala UCC Executive Officer
Goulag Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 19:38:00 - [439] Paragon Soul - i'll agree that its a warzone atm, but it is far from contested. Bob has not deployed any POS's and hasn't tried killing any of ours. please make this amendment. thank you
hermot Amarr The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:20:00 - [440] tbh, its not contested at all.. no sovereignty has been challenged

Profilexero No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.01 20:50:00 - [441] is it just me or is the number 3:Bob & Fix vs Ascn & Axe not placed on the map ?
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.01 21:37:00 - [442] Originally by: hermot tbh, its not contested at all.. no sovereignty has been challenged That must mean this topic doesnt exist then? Amazing im reading a topic that doesnt exist! IMO, its fine as it is...even if it wasnt contested, it would been soon enough, "total war" doesnt mean cuddle up with the carebears. Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance. -------------------------- Above post is my opinion only and does not represent my corp/alliance.
Nahual Gallente 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.01 22:26:00 - [443] Originally by: Goulag Paragon Soul - i'll agree that its a warzone atm, but it is far from contested. Bob has not deployed any POS's and hasn't tried killing any of ours. please make this amendment. thank you You're forgeting Mr Joshua is a b(l)ob fanboi, of course there will be changes made ahead of time and he will be slow in correcting problems against bob. If you disagree, watch this thread last few months, you'll know what I mean. ----------------------------------------------- FateCorp
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.01 23:53:00 - [444] Originally by: Nahual Originally by: Goulag Paragon Soul - i'll agree that its a warzone atm, but it is far from contested. Bob has not deployed any POS's and hasn't tried killing any of ours. please make this amendment. thank you You're forgeting Mr Joshua is a b(l)ob fanboi, of course there will be changes made ahead of time and he will be slow in correcting problems against bob. If you disagree, watch this thread last few months, you'll know what I mean. qft. oh an nubual, i will kill u for the sleipnir, you meanie :( -------------------------------- Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game!
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:00:00 - [445] Originally by: Major Stormer Originally by: hermot tbh, its not contested at all.. no sovereignty has been challenged That must mean this topic doesnt exist then? ok, so everyone who starts a topic about surrender terms does automatically implicate that he is contesting the region? w/o doing anything in the extremest case but only starting a new forum topic? are you for real? -------------------------------- Even WOW is far better than EVE now. Please fix this broken Simcity-Pos-Game!
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:51:00 - [446] This just goes to prove that josh really is a bob fanboy . Not that I didin't know that ages ago.
Caldess 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.10.02 00:53:00 - [447] Edited by: Caldess on 02/10/2006 00:53:23 I presume he meant to put a 3 on Paragon Soul and not a 2? --------------
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:33:00 - [448] Great Wildlands, my be plastered with VI pos, but there is no way they are in control of this area. Allied forces are able to gate camp, roam rat and mine within greatwilds as if it was there own space. I believe the area around the 7q entrance atleast needs to now be contested, as the only parts controlled by VI are inside forcefields. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Francesca Dell'Agio eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 01:35:00 - [449] I'm a bit confused, how does an evening or two of laggy combat without a sovereignty conflict in a single system warrant a status of contested? Joshua, you state that the status assigned to paragon soul there as number 2 is "impossible to portray sovereignty claims"? All there's been in GQ2 is some ships shooting at each other, a bunch of folks ctd'ing, not a single tower attacked, destroyed or even sovereignty contested .. ? If a bunch of folks roaming around in a system warrants a status of sovereignty dispute then Querious, Delve and Period Basis would have a mark in a few spots as well. Actually, you should probably put a mark on the map at QBH-5 with Burn Eden vs ASCN or something like that. Or am I missing a point here with "sovereignty"? WTB: In Game Map Setting: Players logged off in system last 24 hours. Guess why ^^
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:03:00 - [450] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 04:04:21 The 'contested' subject is one that I hold very close to heart... and I have to agree that Joshua (for possibly the first time in his time distinguished mapmaking career) has jumped the gun on designating paragon soul as contested. At the time of this post, all soverignty is still in ASCN hands and there is no report from BoB of any POS takedowns having ocurred. This may well change in under a weeks time, but at the moment a war marker is more than sufficient. Pre-emptive designation of regions as contested is a dangerous path to embark upon. It can negatively affect ASCN morale and skew the general perception of the real progress of the campaign. As it stands the depiction of Paragon Soul as contested is erroneous.

Smokemon Amarr No Quarter. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 04:56:00 - [451] In all fairness, there should be war markers on all of the following regions Stain, Impass, Feth, Period Basis, Delve, Paragon Soul, Querious as the fighting will and has started to boil over into those regions. For proof of the war marker status all you have to do is look at the following killboards AXE, ASCN, BoB. ---------------------------------------- -Proud member of No Quarter -Proud member of Axiom Empire -Proud ex-member of Huzzah Federation
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.02 08:41:00 - [452] Originally by: Profilexero is it just me or is the number 3:Bob & Fix vs Ascn & Axe not placed on the map ? Hmm number 2 on the map is supposed to be number 3, will sort that out somewhere tonight. Originally by: Nez Perces The 'contested' subject is one that I hold very close to heart... and I have to agree that Joshua (for possibly the first time in his distinguished mapmaking career) has jumped the gun on designating paragon soul as contested. At the time of this post, all sovereignty is still in ASCN hands and there is no report from BoB of any POS takedowns having ocurred. This may well change in under a weeks time, but at the moment a war marker is more than sufficient. As it stands the depiction of Paragon Soul as contested is erroneous. I was told Bob has GQ2 locked down with a Blob camp, which puts them in control combine that with the intention to claim ASCN space and you've got yourself some contesting going on. Is my intell regarding GQ2 wrong? Perhaps it is, ill poke some people when i get home. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Ukucia Gallente The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 09:24:00 - [453] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Is my intell regarding GQ2 wrong? Yes.
Francesca Dell'Agio eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 10:14:00 - [454] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Is my intell regarding GQ2 wrong? Perhaps it is, ill poke some people when i get home. Yup. Fraid so. WTB: In Game Map Setting: Players logged off in system last 24 hours. Guess why ^^
Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:40:00 - [455] Originally by: w0rmy Great Wildlands, my be plastered with VI pos, but there is no way they are in control of this area. Allied forces are able to gate camp, roam rat and mine within greatwilds as if it was there own space. I believe the area around the 7q entrance atleast needs to now be contested, as the only parts controlled by VI are inside forcefields. Don't bother, it is said that the southern coalition has a "hand" in creating these maps ... - BH
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:41:00 - [456] Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 11:43:53 Last week there were fleet battles occuring in Paragon Soul, it was a warzone according to the map rules. This week there are currently fleet battles occuring in Feythabolis, it is a warzone according to the map rules. There are no fleet battles occuring anywhere else in the map at this time and therefore nowhere else should be marked as a warzone according to the map rules (ganks do not count). There have been no pos destroyed which would mean no contestation at this point in time regardless of future intention as per the rules of the map. Take that however you wish but those are the facts of the last week and this week. If this alters, I'll be the first to update here. Now stop messing up the map thread. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:45:00 - [457] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Don't bother, it is said that the southern coalition has a "hand" in creating these maps ... But what if Bob and LV go to war? Who would i serve then? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Chienka ANZAC ALLIANCE Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 11:50:00 - [458] There is currently very little combat in GQ2 or the surrounding Paragon soul systems. It has been this way for over 2 days now. There is no lockdown or sieging of GQ2 at this moment. However, AZN-D2 is under heavy attack - no progress is being made by either side in terms of POS ping-pong, ASCN still holds full sovereignty over all its station-systems.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 12:41:00 - [459] There appears to be an echo in here. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.02 13:33:00 - [460] Hmm thats odd the forum ate my post ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:34:00 - [461] Edited by: SamuraiJack on 02/10/2006 14:36:20 ASCN/AXE Vs BoB War Markers : Stain, Impass, Feth, Period Basis, Delve, Paragon Soul, Querious. See Killboards for details. Constested? Not at all. No POS's destroyed. Sovienity is not an issue at current time. That is All. SJ. =- ASCN Allaince Diplomat. ASCN HC. CLS Director. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:44:00 - [462] Can you ASCN dudes actually read? It really helps sometimes. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:48:00 - [463] If you had taken note... I am the one to contact regarding our allaince along with Ramius and as such will be updating in here. /me hands ketchup for your foot. SJ. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 14:51:00 - [464] Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 14:53:34 Then you need to have a nice chat with the mapmaker about what the rules of warmarkers and contestation is. Ganks != war markers. Read my post above for more clarification on this point. Not sure what I was supposed to have taken note off but here is your ketchup back, I think you'll need it more than me. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Vily Lilium Venture Initiative	Posted - 2006.10.02 16:47:00 - [465] the point is that there is no need for a contested marker in any way. even if BOB locks down a system for days until they start deploying massive amounts of POS's it should not be considered contested. ------------------------ Listed as Such, I claim nothing but existense. know me true -Vily
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.02 17:00:00 - [466] Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 17:03:23 Holy jesus. GO AND READ MY POST BEFORE SPAMMING THE HELL OUT OF THE MAP THREAD WITH CONSTANT IRRELEVANT REPATITIONS. There, was that loud enough for all ascn and other peeps who think they need to have a say in this? jeeeeesus. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:14:00 - [467] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 17:10:05 Just sodding well read what I wrote, ffs. dbp you have posted 5 times in this thread, maybe you should reread what you posted?
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:21:00 - [468] Edited by: Nez Perces on 02/10/2006 18:22:15 Originally by: fugazii you have posted 5 times in this thread, maybe you should reread what you posted? Actually DBpreacher has a point, there have been up to 6 different ASCN posters posting about a map change in this thread. The rules for the thread are quite clear : Originally by: Abdalion Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Having said that, neither I nor you should be posting on this subject either as we are not in the alliances involved in the conflict.
vache Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.02 18:41:00 - [469] Perhaps the map should not show that a region is lost, untill 50% of the systems showing sovereignty in the region have been lost? Simple idea to cut down complaints on possible map errors. _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ _ Vache REZ - Director of Operations. RISE - Minister of External Affairs.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.02 21:45:00 - [470] Originally by: DB Preacher just spamming random crap with no justification or even the slightest nod to the rules of the map thread. Pot, Kettle, Black. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?

Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.10.03 00:24:00 - [471] Originally by: vache Perhaps the map should not show that a region is lost, untill 50% of the systems showing sovereignty in the region have been lost? Simple idea to cut down complaints on possible map errors. That wouldnt work, since very few systems in region are usually being claimed on territorial wars.. only 2-3 station systems are enough to determine who holds the region. - again: usually. ------------------ Save Deimos! All posts are my personal opinions.
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:10:00 - [472] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 17:10:05 Just sodding well read what I wrote, ffs. dbp Let me make one thing very clear to you, no matter how big you get in your alliance you are nothing but a joke to the rest of us - YOU DO NOT demand map changes because u feel it should be done ASCN space is not CONTESTED - god your ego is so big ims uprised u fit through the door
Nafri Caldari Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:22:00 - [473] a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. From Dusk till Dawn
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.03 11:24:00 - [474] Since when does the ISS live in ASCN space? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Yodaron Ballsithor Gallente Black Avatar Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.03 17:26:00 - [475] Inquiring as to why FIX is listed in this conflict. We are not actively engaged in any conflict in ASCN space and we see little of ASCN/AXE in our space. Certainly no fleet battles occurring in Q between any of the named parties. The map maker may desire to correct this error. In any event, he has now been informed.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.03 19:33:00 - [476] Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. Yes its true for K3jr arm but have you talk to our own leader and friend alliance like Mordus wing about this suggestion or you just attempt to conclude yourself where we live and what is the real situation over here? Dont forget we have foot in H-Pa29 too and the south of Venal still messy atm! I think the actual marker on the map are the good actual situation for the moment See you in space! The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.10.04 07:35:00 - [477] MC still are not on the map even they have a sov in a constelation in bob space and an outpost there.
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 07:48:00 - [478] Originally by: turnschuh MC still are not on the map even they have a sov in a constelation in bob space and an outpost there. Seleene, is this another one of your alts - or did you make turnshuh spokesman for MC? Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation	Posted - 2006.10.04 09:42:00 - [479] Originally by: turnschuh MC still are not on the map even they have a sov in a constelation in bob space and an outpost there. Ive highlighted the important part, its BOB space, MC simply lives there because BOB lets them. Ps: They have 3 outposts, not 1. Damn carebears. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Avernus Gallente Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:24:00 - [480] As Yoda pointed out, for Warzones: 3) BOB & FIX vs ASCN & AXE FIX shouldn't be listed, we're not operating in Paragon Soul. Thanks, Av. Nothing in life is quite so sweet as the taste of payback.

Beyond Horizon Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:27:00 - [481] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: turnschuh MC still are not on the map even they have a sov in a constelation in bob space and an outpost there. Ive highlighted the important part, its BOB space, MC simply lives there because BOB lets them. Ps: They have 3 outposts, not 1. Damn carebears. Not that I care, but ... there is no BoB claim, no BoB members are living there, no BoB outposts in there.. what does make it bob's space then? - BH
DonSchoe Infinite Style Incorporated Chorus of Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:34:00 - [482] Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. add: you can mark the XHYS-0 and L-1T22 constellations as controlled by Chorus of Dawn. but i agree with the big war marker on venal ;)
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.04 11:38:00 - [483] Originally by: Beyond Horizon Not that I care, but ... there is no BoB claim, no BoB members are living there, no BoB outposts in there.. what does make it bob's space then? We do claim the whole region, there are BoB members living there and we own all the conquerable stations. We let MC live there, build outposts and generally use the area. That's what makes it BoB space. Oh, and we have explained this about a dozen times in this thread at one point or another. Get Your BoB Protection Kit Here
turnschuh Eye of God	Posted - 2006.10.04 14:48:00 - [484] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Beyond Horizon Not that I care, but ... there is no BoB claim, no BoB members are living there, no BoB outposts in there.. what does make it bob's space then? We do claim the whole region, there are BoB members living there and we own all the conquerable stations. We let MC live there, build outposts and generally use the area. That's what makes it BoB space. Oh, and we have explained this about a dozen times in this thread at one point or another. the truth is that it is just another way of propaganda making the mighty bob space seam untouched and not splitted up between two or more entinitys.
Gorion Wassenar Caldari Tsurokigaarai Kimotoro Directive	Posted - 2006.10.04 19:41:00 - [485] Please set the Mito lowsec area to a Pirate Infestation or Multifaction war zone. ------------------ CEO of TKI
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise	Posted - 2006.10.04 20:47:00 - [486] Originally by: turnschuh Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Beyond Horizon Not that I care, but ... there is no BoB claim, no BoB members are living there, no BoB outposts in there.. what does make it bob's space then? We do claim the whole region, there are BoB members living there and we own all the conquerable stations. We let MC live there, build outposts and generally use the area. That's what makes it BoB space. Oh, and we have explained this about a dozen times in this thread at one point or another. the truth is that it is just another way of propaganda making the mighty bob space seam untouched and not splitted up between two or more entinitys. erm lol? please refrain from posting in this mapthread, thx. -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.05 08:11:00 - [487] Edited by: Seleene on 05/10/2006 08:11:36 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: turnschuh MC still are not on the map even they have a sov in a constelation in bob space and an outpost there. Ive highlighted the important part, its BOB space, MC simply lives there because BOB lets them. Ps: They have 3 outposts, not 1. Damn carebears. One last time (you might wanna save this to paste in later when someone else asks, Josh...): We don't fuss about Josh's map because we're not bothered with the actual 'claiming' of territory. Our land is our land, it just happens to be within BoB's 'borders'. We build on it and develop it as we see fit. We only have it because the game mechanics we wish to take part in (big frakkin' ships, etc...) require it. Oh, and because rich lunatics like the FRICK CEO enjoy building useless Gal outposts because they are "green and pretty". - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Tomic	Posted - 2006.10.07 09:53:00 - [488] I believe TPAR system and TCAG system in Period Basis are now contested space, seeing as both BoB and ASCN have POS there. Period Basis as a whole is a warzone as well.
Louisa Torres Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.07 16:57:00 - [489] Originally by: Tomic I believe TPAR system and TCAG system in Period Basis are now contested space, seeing as both BoB and ASCN have POS there. Period Basis as a whole is a warzone as well. If your pos are still there when Josh next updates the map we're happy for it to be marked as such. As things stand, however, all your pos in TPAR will be destroyed by the end of the weekend. Period Basis is indeed a warzone at this time.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.08 02:25:00 - [490] Originally by: DB Preacher Edited by: DB Preacher on 02/10/2006 17:10:05 Just sodding well read what I wrote, ffs. dbp give it up dbp as long as ur name is not cyvok ascn/axe will not read ur posts. ;) The north is fine btw, so u can take care of the south josh ^^

Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.08 22:47:00 - [491] Edited by: Tas Devil on 08/10/2006 22:50:31 I'm a little confused... You have PB marked as a war zone between the 2 alliances that live there ... EKP and FOF... on one side...and TRI and RISK on another... 2 alliances which do not live in PB ... yes their war deced us... but they mainly shoot our noobs in empire... they have made little operations in 0.0 space appart from their usual friday night camping of torrinos gate in ecp8r...so what warants this war zone status for PB ... ? Edited before this degenerates... credit due where credit is ... TRI and RISK are giving us a fight...but its hardly in PB... certainly not more then they have in the last 6 months... at bests skirmishes with no strategic objective... as far as the recent wars between our alliances its a matter of empire attacks mainly...so I just challenge the Pure Blind marker of war zone... its business as usual as far as I'm concerned... Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
Amy Smart Caldari moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.10 08:24:00 - [492] Edited by: Amy Smart on 10/10/2006 08:33:27 Originally by: DonSchoe Edited by: DonSchoe on 04/10/2006 11:41:32 Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. add: you can mark the XHYS-0 and L-1T22 constellations (northwest-venal) as controlled by Chorus of Dawn. but i agree with the big war marker on venal ;) chorus of dawn dont control this constelations of venal. also for poe/tcf. chorus of dawn are/were residents of venal and poe/tcf are fight by much corps in the k3jr area. if you want mark venal with a claim, well then a claim for dusk and dawn, excepting the 48r-ps constellation, full of poe and tcf. - moon7empler :: Dusk and Dawn - - Madam Adminstrator of Venal -
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.10.10 10:03:00 - [493] I think it's safe to say that IAC space is a "war zone", Josh. The intention to conquer part or all of it exists as well. Involved parties are: MC, FIX & KIA vs. IAC, their Drunken Friends and anyone else who wanders by. - Movie: 9UY - Got Fighters?
Space Hog NEW DAWN CO Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels	Posted - 2006.10.10 13:00:00 - [494] Edited by: Space Hog on 10/10/2006 13:03:25 Fuzzy Nut Attack Squirrels currently claim ES-U, QFEW, and Y-D in the curse region I believe Rupture Constl. Also I believe that 187 does not control that area of space in curse. Caution Visit Nuts
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.10 19:17:00 - [495] Edited by: Emrod on 10/10/2006 19:21:45 Originally by: Amy Smart Edited by: Amy Smart on 10/10/2006 08:33:27 Originally by: DonSchoe Edited by: DonSchoe on 04/10/2006 11:41:32 Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. add: you can mark the XHYS-0 and L-1T22 constellations (northwest-venal) as controlled by Chorus of Dawn. but i agree with the big war marker on venal ;) chorus of dawn dont control this constelations of venal. also for poe/tcf. chorus of dawn are/were residents of venal and poe/tcf are fight by much corps in the k3jr area. if you want mark venal with a claim, well then a claim for dusk and dawn, excepting the 48r-ps constellation, full of poe and tcf. You see Chorus, its the price to pay to be friend of d2...you can't claim nothing in Venal! I hope you have other avantage beside of to be {{Local}} people like us And once again d2 , you have forget to say that TCF and friends have foot on HPa too! Bad D2, you hate sharing stuff don't you? The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.10 20:40:00 - [496] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405678 The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. ASCN space is not contested. Currently only BoB Ceptor gangs raiding. No Fleet battles. That is all. SJ. ASCN Allaince Diplomat. ASCN HC. CLS Director. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.11 04:58:00 - [497] Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 04:58:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. well thats strange, just looked at the in-game map and don't see any ASCN sovereignty in the regions you just mentioned. Could you be lying?
Raid Caldari Tyrell Corp Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.11 05:04:00 - [498] Curse needs to go back to being factional warzone. Aparantly democracy doesnt work
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.11 07:08:00 - [499] Originally by: SamuraiJack http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=405678 The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. ASCN space is not contested. Currently only BoB Ceptor gangs raiding. No Fleet battles. That is all. SJ. ASCN Allaince Diplomat. ASCN HC. CLS Director. Seige is ended. All enemy pos destroyed, ASCN have pulled back to lick wounds. Best to ask for contestation when you are contesting the region, not after your contestation has failed. That is all. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Amy Smart Caldari moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.10.11 16:38:00 - [500] Originally by: Emrod Edited by: Emrod on 10/10/2006 19:21:45 Originally by: Amy Smart Edited by: Amy Smart on 10/10/2006 08:33:27 Originally by: DonSchoe Edited by: DonSchoe on 04/10/2006 11:41:32 Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. add: you can mark the XHYS-0 and L-1T22 constellations (northwest-venal) as controlled by Chorus of Dawn. but i agree with the big war marker on venal ;) chorus of dawn dont control this constelations of venal. also for poe/tcf. chorus of dawn are/were residents of venal and poe/tcf are fight by much corps in the k3jr area. if you want mark venal with a claim, well then a claim for dusk and dawn, excepting the 48r-ps constellation, full of poe and tcf. You see Chorus, its the price to pay to be friend of d2...you can't claim nothing in Venal! I hope you have other avantage beside of to be {{Local}} people like us And once again d2 , you have forget to say that TCF and friends have foot on HPa too! Bad D2, you hate sharing stuff don't you? thats not the place to discuss this. -------------------------------------------------- - moon7empler :: Dusk and Dawn - - Madam Adminstrator of Venal -

Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.10.11 19:25:00 - [501] Edited by: Emrod on 11/10/2006 19:30:39 Originally by: Amy Smart Originally by: Emrod Edited by: Emrod on 10/10/2006 19:21:45 Originally by: Amy Smart Edited by: Amy Smart on 10/10/2006 08:33:27 Originally by: DonSchoe Edited by: DonSchoe on 04/10/2006 11:41:32 Originally by: Nafri a short suggestion for venal: You can mark the k3j arm for TCF/POE, since they live mostly there. Most other parts are controlled by the northern alliances. Then you can put a big war marker on the whole region since we fight there sometimes. add: you can mark the XHYS-0 and L-1T22 constellations (northwest-venal) as controlled by Chorus of Dawn. but i agree with the big war marker on venal ;) chorus of dawn dont control this constelations of venal. also for poe/tcf. chorus of dawn are/were residents of venal and poe/tcf are fight by much corps in the k3jr area. if you want mark venal with a claim, well then a claim for dusk and dawn, excepting the 48r-ps constellation, full of poe and tcf. You see Chorus, its the price to pay to be friend of d2...you can't claim nothing in Venal! I hope you have other avantage beside of to be {{Local}} people like us And once again d2 , you have forget to say that TCF and friends have foot on HPa too! Bad D2, you hate sharing stuff don't you? thats not the place to discuss this. Suddenly its Now not the good place to disccuss it? Oh rigth! Joshua let again the multifaction warzone, its the better accurate situation we have at Venal! Over The Tau Ceti Federation, proudly *** off the Northern Coalition till 2006*
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 01:46:00 - [502] Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 04:58:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. well thats strange, just looked at the in-game map and don't see any ASCN sovereignty in the regions you just mentioned. Could you be lying? No offence but since when does this thread concern you? Your not fix or bob or ascn
Angelus X Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.12 03:40:00 - [503] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 04:58:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. well thats strange, just looked at the in-game map and don't see any ASCN sovereignty in the regions you just mentioned. Could you be lying? No offence but since when does this thread concern you? Your not fix or bob or ascn err... nor are you? Pls don't turn this thread into a flamefest. -----
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.12 07:23:00 - [504] Originally by: Angelus X Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 04:58:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. well thats strange, just looked at the in-game map and don't see any ASCN sovereignty in the regions you just mentioned. Could you be lying? No offence but since when does this thread concern you? Your not fix or bob or ascn err... nor are you? Pls don't turn this thread into a flamefest. Im not trying to and i apoligise if it comes across that way, i am annoyed because he is posting in every single BOB/ASCN/AXE/FIX thread concerning the conflict as if he is initimatley involved with it. It is becoming quite annoying
Sister 9 Phung Hoang Social Club	Posted - 2006.10.12 12:57:00 - [505] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Angelus X Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Nez Perces Edited by: Nez Perces on 11/10/2006 04:58:18 Originally by: SamuraiJack The Siege of TPAR-G As per Molle himself. Region is contested. Peroid Basis. well thats strange, just looked at the in-game map and don't see any ASCN sovereignty in the regions you just mentioned. Could you be lying? No offence but since when does this thread concern you? Your not fix or bob or ascn err... nor are you? Pls don't turn this thread into a flamefest. Im not trying to and i apoligise if it comes across that way, i am annoyed because he is posting in every single BOB/ASCN/AXE/FIX thread concerning the conflict as if he is initimatley involved with it. It is becoming quite annoying trying to get any sense of integrity and dignity on these forums is like ****ing into the wind. thankfully the forums are only a small scratch on the surface of eve, and ingame is where the real thing is happening.
Jallen Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.12 18:20:00 - [506] Cloud Ring is no longer contested between RISE and YouWhat. YouWhat is in control of the Region.
L'Ermite	Posted - 2006.10.12 21:55:00 - [507] Edited by: L''Ermite on 12/10/2006 21:55:20 Bob or the fanboys can't deny period base as being contested as ASCN now has sov. in one of the sytems. How long they hold it is another story.

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.13 08:03:00 - [508] I have spent the time to clear up this thread. I would like to remind you this is NOT a discussion thread. Its works as simply as this, a representative of the allainces involved may make a post claiming a teratory, in return the defending allaince may make a counter-claim. This is the only things that should be posted. I respectfully ask that if you are not the allance claiming or defending the space that you DO NOT post here. I will delete any posts that are from third parties / allied corp/allaince (that are not claiming the space as theres) or anyone who does not have there allaince/corp showing. If you disagree with any claims being made in here please discuss it in the rest of this forum section. I will be monitoring this thread closely. Thank you . ____ forum rules \| Email us

Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:07:00 - [509] Edited by: Tas Devil on 13/10/2006 11:08:16 My confusion is even deeper now... Pure Blind is marked as a warzone between EKP and FOF on one side and TRI and RISK on the other since your last update. That was 30/09. Their war against us was only declared on 5/10 and 6/10 respectively... They have also both since then retracted their wars as these were free empire killing sprees which achieved precious little from a strategic stand point. If anything the only alliance in PB hostile to both FoF and EKP is EE (Eternal Empire) who are attempting to lay some claim to systems around J-C. I would again like to challenge the war zone marker... ecp8r has always been a trouble spot...and attracts pirates like flies on poo... but this does not constitute a war zone ... Its mainly a skirmish here and there ...and a friday night camp of Ecp8r by TRI and RISK once in a while. If you wish to keep the war marker... can you please state the right parties involved... RISK and TRI are here skirmishing with just about everyone in the north... and just about everyone gives them a run for their money regularly... ISS comes to mind as well as IRON and other northern residents who cross ecp8r frequently. Cheers. Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.13 11:28:00 - [510] Edited by: SamuraiJack on 13/10/2006 11:39:05 Edited by: SamuraiJack on 13/10/2006 11:28:51 Originally by: DB Preacher Seige is ended. All enemy pos destroyed, ASCN have pulled back to lick wounds. Best to ask for contestation when you are contesting the region, not after your contestation has failed. That is all. dbp Incorrect. TCAG is still held. ASCN Forces are still holding the system. :Edit: TCAG is ASCN Sovereignty. Region Still Contested. POS's still up. (No i'm not about to provide you details.) Check killboards if you want. SJ. ASCN Allaince Diplomat. ASCN HC. CLS Director. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.

d4ve InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.10.13 12:26:00 - [511] regarding pure blind maybe the best solution is to just mark it as a pirate infestation, that's what its been for a good while now and that's what it will be for some time in the future i think. ___
SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.13 12:29:00 - [512] Joshua, feel free to mark the system of TCAG contested. The region of PB is not contested. The solo system of TCAG is.
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.13 13:01:00 - [513] Edited by: Tas Devil on 13/10/2006 13:02:26 Originally by: d4ve regarding pure blind maybe the best solution is to just mark it as a pirate infestation, that's what its been for a good while now and that's what it will be for some time in the future i think. Sensible idea... And I do not contest it is a pirate infestation around ecp8r. Also may I request you update the map to reflect the space claimed by FoF more accuratly. Pure Blind is a tricky region to depict as it has a 2 level corridor network that crosses over one another with little exchange. This results in the Sovereignty claims of FoF and EKP crisscrossing. In effect if you look at map our combined sov forms a X with EKP claiming the lower left to upper right bar and FoF claiming the lower right to upper left bar. For FoF this translates into claims over the constellations of : YS-GOP, LY-FY6, WMP-OF and parts of U8-CWA. Perhaps the best way to represent this is like you did with EKP with 2 separate areas linked by a line, as we do not lay claim to the center of PureBlind (X-7OMU etc...) but simply the corridor that goes under that. Many Thanks. Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.16 14:16:00 - [514] Whens the next update?
Roxanna Kell BURN EDEN	Posted - 2006.10.16 17:59:00 - [515] its every 10-15 days. Quote: "Don't touch the red button!"
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.18 11:16:00 - [516] Edited by: Tas Devil on 18/10/2006 11:16:36 ignore... please delete Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to Killer8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2006.10.18 15:58:00 - [517] 3FA no longer have any control over their labelled part of Syndicate, They are removing pos and their travel is restricted by everyone but themselves. COW/BRS are in majority of control and even a lone D2 corp is more active pvp-wise in the area. Although as it is syndicate, the 3FA marker should just be removed rather than changed. If anything Syndicate should just have a massive "mult-faction warzone" marker [EVE TASK BAR?]
Rainbow Jesus Minmatar Grief Tactics Amalgamated	Posted - 2006.10.23 04:13:00 - [518] Joshua, you can place a warzone marker from FUSED towards ASCN over feyth. thx.
Rennard Deniz Mahsulleri Ofisi	Posted - 2006.10.23 11:46:00 - [519] Yes there is a pirate infestation in PB for nearly last 3 months. It seems it won`t be settled anytime soon.
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.10.25 10:12:00 - [520] Impass is contested between aAa and AXE Rage and Terror - making people quit EVE.

Extreme Eye of God Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.10.25 12:05:00 - [521] Edited by: Extreme on 25/10/2006 12:06:01 Originally by: Evil Thug Impass is contested between aAa and AXE *cough* that's a premature statement *cough* Actually it's propaganda . .
Mallick Northern Intelligence SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 12:55:00 - [522] Originally by: Evil Thug Impass is contested between aAa and AXE I NOW DECLEAR FORUM WAR ON AAA! AAA space is now contested between AAA and SMASH.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.25 13:05:00 - [523] Originally by: Mallick Originally by: Evil Thug Impass is contested between aAa and AXE I NOW DECLEAR FORUM WAR ON AAA! AAA space is now contested between AAA and SMASH. Go away. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Bombaman VersaTech Interstellar Ltd. SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 13:15:00 - [524] Edited by: Bombaman on 25/10/2006 13:15:11 josh Cribba's new "Top Banner" doesnt like the Oringal linkage ie http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?744193 works find without the end bit "Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0009' Subscript out of range: 'UBound(...)' /main.dxd, line 19 "
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.25 13:34:00 - [525] Originally by: Bombaman Edited by: Bombaman on 25/10/2006 13:15:11 josh Cribba's new "Top Banner" doesnt like the Oringal linkage ie http://dl1.eve-files.com/media/corp/CRII/Latest.jpg?744193 works find without the end bit "Microsoft VBScript runtime error '800a0009' Subscript out of range: 'UBound(...)' /main.dxd, line 19 " Thanks updated. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Queen Esmerelda	Posted - 2006.10.25 14:23:00 - [526] Joshua you really should get NEC "New Eden Conglomorate"'s territory down on the map up in Pure Blind.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 15:08:00 - [527] Originally by: Rainbow Jesus Joshua, you can place a warzone marker from FUSED towards ASCN over feyth. thx. Who are you and where are your forces? Until i see any evidence this is not a valid claim. SJ. =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 15:12:00 - [528] PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager CLS Director =- I am that merry wanderer of the night? I am that giggling-dangerous-totally-bloody-psychotic-menace-to-life-and-limb, more like it.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:21:00 - [529] Originally by: SamuraiJack Edited by: SamuraiJack on 25/10/2006 15:26:29 PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. BoB reject this claim.
John McCreedy Caldari Eve Defence Force Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:32:00 - [530] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: SamuraiJack Edited by: SamuraiJack on 25/10/2006 15:26:29 PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. BoB reject this claim. Reject all you like. Anyone can verify that Yoshimi Outpost is now owned by Darkstar 1 who are a member corp ASCN. Make a Difference

SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:38:00 - [531] ASCN Darkstar Swinging Pendulum Yoshi is no more :) SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:40:00 - [532] Originally by: John McCreedy Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: SamuraiJack Edited by: SamuraiJack on 25/10/2006 15:26:29 PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. BoB reject this claim. Reject all you like. Anyone can verify that Yoshimi Outpost is now owned by Darkstar 1 who are a member corp ASCN. ok, I'll clarify for the slow people who don't realise this is NOT a discussion thread: The station fell today. The station has not been in hostile hands for more than 12 hours. This announcement says that CELES also contest fountain, which is funny because ever since, well, forever, CELES have said they will NEVER claim space. So, we can remove the CELES part of that announcement until a representative from that not so shy of the forums, corp, says different. The second part of our rejection is the fact that this was not a BoB station. It never has been. We do not believe that sufficient effort has been put in to attacking the owners of fountain to justify such a claim for a contested marker on the map thread. As such, as per my previous post, BoB reject this claim for contestation. As is our custom if we agree with a claim against us we will agree to it - until those making such claims actually warrant our agreement, however, we will simply object to it which is, again, in the custom of this thread. Thank you.
EYEDOLL Amarr STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 17:46:00 - [533] Admit your loss b00bie, more will come
GuruJ Gallente Lynx Frontier Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:02:00 - [534] 1st. Whats a Fused? If they are contesting Feyth don't they actually have to be near it? 2nd. Swinging Pendulum....... more like swung hammer! (I would post to a thread about kittens if it meant I could show off my BOB kills in my sig below!) "Fancy ships, big guns, and expensive things; what about your soul does it Bling Bling?"
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.10.25 19:24:00 - [535] Originally by: Dianabolic ok, I'll clarify for the slow people who don't realise this is NOT a discussion thread: The station fell today. The station has not been in hostile hands for more than 12 hours. This announcement says that CELES also contest fountain, which is funny because ever since, well, forever, CELES have said they will NEVER claim space. So, we can remove the CELES part of that announcement until a representative from that not so shy of the forums, corp, says different. The second part of our rejection is the fact that this was not a BoB station. It never has been. We do not believe that sufficient effort has been put in to attacking the owners of fountain to justify such a claim for a contested marker on the map thread. As such, as per my previous post, BoB reject this claim for contestation. As is our custom if we agree with a claim against us we will agree to it - until those making such claims actually warrant our agreement, however, we will simply object to it which is, again, in the custom of this thread. Thank you. not to burst your bubble or anything, but under your logic ascn could jst give ownership to all thier stations to a non alliance friend corp. and once you (bob) conquer them all they can say the space isnt contested and in full ascn control because they never actually lost a station only thier friends using the space did. right?
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.25 20:40:00 - [536] Edited by: Christopher Multsanti on 25/10/2006 20:40:32 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: John McCreedy Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: SamuraiJack Edited by: SamuraiJack on 25/10/2006 15:26:29 PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. BoB reject this claim. Reject all you like. Anyone can verify that Yoshimi Outpost is now owned by Darkstar 1 who are a member corp ASCN. ok, I'll clarify for the slow people who don't realise this is NOT a discussion thread: The station fell today. The station has not been in hostile hands for more than 12 hours. This announcement says that CELES also contest fountain, which is funny because ever since, well, forever, CELES have said they will NEVER claim space. So, we can remove the CELES part of that announcement until a representative from that not so shy of the forums, corp, says different. The second part of our rejection is the fact that this was not a BoB station. It never has been. We do not believe that sufficient effort has been put in to attacking the owners of fountain to justify such a claim for a contested marker on the map thread. As such, as per my previous post, BoB reject this claim for contestation. As is our custom if we agree with a claim against us we will agree to it - until those making such claims actually warrant our agreement, however, we will simply object to it which is, again, in the custom of this thread. Thank you. I know this isnt a discussion thread but I must say, ASCN (who you are at war with) have taken control of an outpost in your space. If that isn't contested I don't know what is. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
MECHcore Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:02:00 - [537] Originally by: Dianabolic BoB reject this claim. Think abit with logic , you claim to own fountain but now ASCN have taken an outpost there , its definatly contesting the region. Time to admit that you lost ground there
Miv333 Caldari NOPHEX PRISIM Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:07:00 - [538] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I know this isnt a discussion thread but I must say, ASCN (who you are at war with) have taken control of an outpost in your space. If that isn't contested I don't know what is. omfg you're idiocity is probably going to get me warned by ISD or somthing, but WTF do you have a brain at all? DOES BOB OWN FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB SUPPORT FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB USE FOUNTAIN? No. Xelas does. So how does ASCN control an outpost in bob's space? DERRRRR. -Miv
batloard Amarr Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:12:00 - [539] Originally by: Miv333 Edited by: Miv333 on 25/10/2006 21:07:42 Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I know this isnt a discussion thread but I must say, ASCN (who you are at war with) have taken control of an outpost in your space. If that isn't contested I don't know what is. omfg you're idiocity is probably going to get me warned by ISD or somthing, but WTF do you have a brain at all? DOES BOB OWN FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB SUPPORT FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB USE FOUNTAIN? No. Xelas does. So how does ASCN control an outpost in bob's space? DERRRRR. Oh and its only a outpost... afaik fountain is still ran by Xelas. Not like ascn or celest did anything special. yes we did. We took your only outpost. And it was In BoB claimed space. So fountain is definetly contested.
Miv333 Caldari NOPHEX PRISIM Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:15:00 - [540] Originally by: batloard Originally by: Miv333 Edited by: Miv333 on 25/10/2006 21:07:42 Originally by: Christopher Multsanti I know this isnt a discussion thread but I must say, ASCN (who you are at war with) have taken control of an outpost in your space. If that isn't contested I don't know what is. omfg you're idiocity is probably going to get me warned by ISD or somthing, but WTF do you have a brain at all? DOES BOB OWN FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB SUPPORT FOUNTAIN? DOES BOB USE FOUNTAIN? No. Xelas does. So how does ASCN control an outpost in bob's space? DERRRRR. Oh and its only a outpost... afaik fountain is still ran by Xelas. Not like ascn or celest did anything special. yes we did. We took your only outpost. And it was In BoB claimed space. So fountain is definetly contested. I dont contest it being contested. But I dont count it as a bob loss =p By the looks of it bob doesnt really care... Btw its fun PVP'ing with you! How will we pvp when we get kicked out (i was leaving anyways, but still) -Miv

Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:20:00 - [541] Originally by: batloard And it was In BoB claimed space. So fountain is definetly contested. The last time ascn claimed to contest a region was when they actually had sovereignty (but no station). Got that yet? No? The claim is rubbish, come back to us when you a) decide you can tie your horse to the space claiming fraternity and b) have sovereignty and have a station (not just one or the other). Thanks for popping in, before you leave please familiarise yourself with the rules of this thread.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:39:00 - [542] Edited by: Nez Perces on 25/10/2006 21:40:24 Originally by: Dianabolic The claim is rubbish, come back to us when you a) decide you can tie your horse to the space claiming fraternity and b) have sovereignty and have a station (not just one or the other). I'm not involved in this conflict, and I have no right to post here... but ... something needs to be said about this situation. Diana, you better than most must feel the deja-vu in this topic. Contested status + Fountain space. The last time there was a dispute about this item..... well you remember. In those days there were no outposts... so it was near impossible to decide wether an npc region was contested or not. However, now there are outposts and it would seem that the outpost ASCN have conquered is the only possible way for contested status to be categorically conferred to an npc region. This issue is going to raise a conundrum for Joshua.. and it will be an item, which if mishandled could cause irreparable damage to his impecable reputuation thus far. Joshua is categorically the best mapmaker EVE has had imo... this is a pretty grey area and I hope that in the interests of the community, BOTH sides help him to reach a solution you will BOTH be happy with.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 21:48:00 - [543] Originally by: Nez Perces Diana, you better than most must feel the deja-vu in this topic. Indeed. As my previous post(s) in this thread aludes to: Claim sovereignty (not done). Take a station (done). Tick both boxes and we'll grant and agree to the contested nature of Fountain. I believe such rules were agreed a while ago, I actually thought they were posted in this thread - obviously not. :(
Kaleeb Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:01:00 - [544] Celes dont want to formally claim fountain, as diana pointed out we arent about controlling territory through pos's etc. I will however point out i believe it is contested by celes from a military/pvp perspective. We will leave the pos game to ascn and bob. If I didnt know better i`d say diana was alittle upse t Originally by: Blacklight Last night was an 'anomoly' for different reasons that have absolutely nothing to do with skill or who were the better pvpers.
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:08:00 - [545] Originally by: Dianabolic Indeed. As my previous post(s) in this thread aludes to: Claim sovereignty (not done). Take a station (done). Tick both boxes and we'll grant and agree to the contested nature of Fountain. I believe such rules were agreed a while ago, I actually thought they were posted in this thread - obviously not. :( Indeed they were.... the rules that is..... well if one looks at the ingame map, it is clear that not all of Fountain has npc sovereignty.. infact there are several systems showing BoB and Xelas sovereignty in the Fountain region. ASCN has captured the outpost in PNQ, however their sovereignty on the system is not yet showing... It is therefore only fair that both Outpost ownership and Sovereignty be required for contested status to occurr. Ofc.. there is then the other issue of that being only one system of several containing either Xelas or BoB sovereignty... how many of these need to be knocked out before Josha conferrs contested status, will be another issue. The point I was trying to make is that wether the station belonged to Xelas or BoB shouln't be a factor, when Joshua comes to decide on wether contestation is to be awarded or not. It will be a conquered station within Fountain space.. a clearer "capture the flag" mechanism you won't get.
Vortex Freeman Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:18:00 - [546] Edited by: Vortex Freeman on 25/10/2006 22:19:24 All you guys just need to take a chill pill and relax, everything is going to be ok, promise. So you want to see evidence of where wars are fought? Clue #1) Check ships killed in 24 hrs or 1 hr and see where the hotspots are. Clue #2) Read what's going on on the forums. Last I heard there's war between BoB and ASCN, this is still on no? Clue #3) Put 1 and 2 together and maybe you'll see a pattern, where is the war fought? What/where is the contested space? Currently the fighting is in BoB space right so what space exactly is it that is being contested? Clue #4) Go there and see for yourself. Last time I was in Feyth it was clean as a whistle. BoB space... well I hear it's dirty. Folks, when reading the EVE-O boards, please know the difference between sheer facts, and stinking propaganda. BoB is so full of stink I can smell it all the way into Feythabolis, I believe we just have a fleet there to clean the place up. There are two kinds of EVE-players, those who play the game, and those who play the (kill?)boards. Which one of those are you? I know what BoB are, and I know what ASCN are. So pick your favorite and place a bet why don't ya. ~ Preparatus Supervivet ~
Talon SilverHawk Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:38:00 - [547] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: John McCreedy Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: SamuraiJack Edited by: SamuraiJack on 25/10/2006 15:26:29 PNQ Station is now in ASCN Control. Fountain is Contested by ASCN/CELES. BoB reject this claim. Reject all you like. Anyone can verify that Yoshimi Outpost is now owned by Darkstar 1 who are a member corp ASCN. ok, I'll clarify for the slow people who don't realise this is NOT a discussion thread: The station fell today. The station has not been in hostile hands for more than 12 hours. This announcement says that CELES also contest fountain, which is funny because ever since, well, forever, CELES have said they will NEVER claim space. So, we can remove the CELES part of that announcement until a representative from that not so shy of the forums, corp, says different. A point just because we don't want to claim Fountain does not me we don't contest your ownership of it. Tal nullnull What goes around comes around
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:41:00 - [548] Originally by: Talon SilverHawk A point just because we don't want to claim Fountain does not me we don't contest your ownership of it. That's an oxymoron, Talon. Oh well, so much for a discussion thread, eh?
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:45:00 - [549] So BoB demanding "Contested" for Feyth just because of a few fleet battles suddenly requires Sov and Station for when ASCN claims "Contested". Well well... SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:48:00 - [550] Originally by: SamuraiJack So BoB demanding "Contested" for Feyth just because of a few fleet battles suddenly requires Sov and Station for when ASCN claims "Contested". Well well... Where on these forums have we asked for contested in Fethy, Jack? Nowhere? So wtf are you talking about?

Talon SilverHawk Caldari Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:49:00 - [551] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Talon SilverHawk A point just because we don't want to claim Fountain does not me we don't contest your ownership of it. That's an oxymoron, Talon. Oh well, so much for a discussion thread, eh? Who are you calling a moron ? Tal What goes around comes around
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:54:00 - [552] Originally by: SamuraiJack Originally by: Dianabolic Where on these forums have we asked for contested in Fethy, Jack? Nowhere? So wtf are you talking about? It was in the last update before ISD cleared it after the new map. Sorry, you're incorrect. BoB has not asked for such a contestation, nor will we unless it meets the criteria laid out previously and / or with that which I've already posted.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 22:54:00 - [553] Originally by: Dianabolic Where on these forums have we asked for contested in Fethy, Jack? Nowhere? So wtf are you talking about? It was in the last update before ISD cleared it after the new map. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:01:00 - [554] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 25/10/2006 23:02:36 To answer some questions: Soverignty isnt required to contest a region, if ASCN manages to holds the outpost for the next 4 days (map update on the 30th) then its obvious theyre in control. If they get sov on the system this of course solifies their claim over said section of fountain. As for Celes contesting space, technically on one hand one does not have to claim space in order to contest it, all they have to do is make sure noone else controls it, however the act of inforcing your rules upon a region and deciding who cant and cannot live there results in you exerting a claim over the region. If you do not claim the region then you cannot contest ownership and it would be marked as a warzone. Ill think about it some more while working tommorow, its not like ive got anything useful to do there anyway. As for claiming a notion that claiming a Xelas outpost does not equal contesting Bob space, this obviously doesnt work, if you live in an alliance's space you activly support their claim over that region, as you most likely abide by their standings as well. When your outpost falls all of the entities working with you to exert a claim over the region have lost control. Originally by: SamuraiJack DB posted for Feyth and Paragon to be contested in the last update. Actually DB requested that the contesting mark over Paragon was removed. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:01:00 - [555] Originally by: Dianabolic Sorry, you're incorrect. BoB has not asked for such a contestation, nor will we unless it meets the criteria laid out previously and / or with that which I've already posted. DB posted for Feyth and Paragon to be contested in the last update. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Major Stormer Caldari Demon Womb	Posted - 2006.10.25 23:46:00 - [556] At the very least, fountain has been a warzone for a considerable time now, however in the last few days this has been pushed up considerably (as seen). What remains to be seen before the next update is if things get more violent, which could lead to 1 side or another taking/retaking control, or stay about the same (which would put it into contested) -------------------------- Join Demon Womb! PVP, Rats, Industry, join the fun!
Akoudoulos Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.10.26 02:08:00 - [557] Edited by: Akoudoulos on 26/10/2006 02:10:54 I do not get it! Bob (as the map shows) claim Fountain If it was Xelas then why not xelas showing on the map??? ASCN take control of the station, which is asset of xelas but in BOB space, but BOB claim its not their space!!!!?! So let me get this strait, you kill Fountain Alliance, then claim a great victory, then the map change and for over 8months the map stays as it is today(BOB owns Fountain) Now your allies that had the station under their flag, lose it and suddenly BOB lays no claim in fountain, Did i get this correct? when you win a battle, it's just bobs victory, when you lose a battle it's not your loss, its the loss of your pets I remember BOB brag about fountain, what have changed? I hate to give kudos to hobbits but.....
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:26:00 - [558] Allright I am sorry to post here, I know its not a discussion thread. Joshua, when the war started you set the whole Paragon soul to contested, because BoB had been camping gq2 for 2 days. No POSes, no sovereignity involved. You only changed it back when bob themselves told you here it was foolish, and you replied you set it to contested because you had been told that "bob was locking down the system for days alredy" or something like that. Now, I am not saying you are biased but how do you think this comes across to the general reader? - Gob [IXC] Admiral Goberius
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:45:00 - [559] Hmm did the mods just nuke my awefully informative post? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Kw4h Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 07:59:00 - [560] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Soverignty isnt required to contest a region, if ASCN manages to holds the outpost for the next 4 days (map update on the 30th) then its obvious theyre in control. If they get sov on the system this of course solifies their claim over said section of fountain. That's indeed how I always thought it was. If it was all based on sovereignty I could plant POS'es all over the place and claim it mine, while nobody actually lives there. Originally by: Dianabolic The second part of our rejection is the fact that this was not a BoB station. It never has been. We do not believe that sufficient effort has been put in to attacking the owners of fountain to justify such a claim for a contested marker on the map thread. Until now I thought the BoB system worked like this: BoB -\|--- Xelas -\|--- Pet corp 2 -\|--- Pet corp 3 etc etc That means if Xelas owns a station, BoB owns the station. Same with regions. If BoB slave/pet corps own a region, it would technically be BoBs. What Diana says now, is that the station was NOT BoB's. That means that you now say the above system is wrong, and that all the entities are in fact seperate. Therefor, Fountain should never have been BoB territory, but Xelas/Horde. Though BoB has POS'es in that region, they (as far as I know) do not actually live there, and cannot claim ownership. Now that BoB does not own fountain, they also cannot reject ASCN's claim. Horde/Xelas should be doing that, and it would be nice to be hearing from them. I'm also disappointed in BoB and their allies, as they let the region unrightfully show BoB territory, instead of Xelas/Horde. This gives an inaccurate indication of BoB space, and also an inaccurate indication of their alliance structure. If you can, please clear this up for all of us. (ps: Although I am an ASCN member, I try to be as unbiased as possible )

Kw4h Dragon's Rage Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:00:00 - [561] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Hmm did the mods just nuke my awefully informative post? It appears so. Though there's a small bit in the post I just wrote :)
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:05:00 - [562] ASCN have already pulled out of Fountain so the point is null. The POS will be back in control of Xelas shortly. This is why you don't rush to make posts about things like control, contestation or any other ill thought out rush after 6 hours of being in a system. Here is your second piece of advice about the mapthread Jack: The Map is a long term look at the eve universe and is updated 2 weeks at a time or more. Get control of something, take a breather, look at the reality of the situation and if you think you can hold it then post. Have fun gents and stop spamming the map thread. It is not appreciated now and has never been by the eve community. Cheers, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:41:00 - [563] Originally by: Tas Devil Edited by: Tas Devil on 13/10/2006 11:08:16 My confusion is even deeper now... Pure Blind is marked as a warzone between EKP and FOF on one side and TRI and RISK on the other since your last update. That was 30/09. Their war against us was only declared on 5/10 and 6/10 respectively... They have also both since then retracted their wars as these were free empire killing sprees which achieved precious little from a strategic stand point. If anything the only alliance in PB hostile to both FoF and EKP is EE (Eternal Empire) who are attempting to lay some claim to systems around J-C. I would again like to challenge the war zone marker... ecp8r has always been a trouble spot...and attracts pirates like flies on poo... but this does not constitute a war zone ... Its mainly a skirmish here and there ...and a friday night camp of Ecp8r by TRI and RISK once in a while. If you wish to keep the war marker... can you please state the right parties involved... RISK and TRI are here skirmishing with just about everyone in the north... and just about everyone gives them a run for their money regularly... ISS comes to mind as well as IRON and other northern residents who cross ecp8r frequently. Cheers. WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT? The war marker stays. Our empire war removed you out of empire and forced you into other regions or continously docked, with kills in the hundreds while ours were in the tens. We sieged MI6 destroyed 3 of your pos 1 large 1 med 1 small, and lost 2 small to IRON NOT YOU. FOF if we feel needs to will be removed in time. War marker stays for now.
Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:43:00 - [564] you also lost the sov in mi6 but later regained it solely on the fact you had your blob friends from the north come to play with a 350 man gang against our 50. PB is not a pirate infestation TRI are the only pirates there and we own the place at the moment.
jeNK Caldari STK Scientific Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 08:44:00 - [565] Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN have already pulled out of Fountain so the point is null. The POS will be back in control of Xelas shortly. This is why you don't rush to make posts about things like control, contestation or any other ill thought out rush after 6 hours of being in a system. Here is your second piece of advice about the mapthread Jack: The Map is a long term look at the eve universe and is updated 2 weeks at a time or more. Get control of something, take a breather, look at the reality of the situation and if you think you can hold it then post. Have fun gents and stop spamming the map thread. It is not appreciated now and has never been by the eve community. Cheers, dbp Just like the contested marker Joshua put on Paragon Soul before any real fighting even began? ASCN has control of an outpost/station in Fountain, Fountain is BoB claimed space.. that is the very definition of "contested", period.
Riddari Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.26 09:04:00 - [566] Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN have already pulled out of Fountain so the point is null. Uh what? We went to bed because we also do a thing called sleep like once a day. So yeah.. we pulled out of uh Fountain to uh go to bed uhm.. yeah I see your point, it is BRILLIANT! BOB pull out of NOL, TPAR every night! ¼+¼ a history
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.26 12:04:00 - [567] Edited by: Tas Devil on 26/10/2006 12:11:29 While Assassin2 may have issues understanding how this thread works, I would like to clarify the official position of FOF. *As per my post above FOF controls and claims the space marked above in my previous post which I have put in BOLD so it may be taken into account in the next map update.* TRI may claim to be the 'only pirates in PB' but we see many more such as RISK and many smaller non allied pirate corps. The point remains, I do not see any TRI markers on the map. Also, I would kindly ask assassin2 to understand the concept of sovereignty and control over a region or part of it. Having a week-end bash and destroying a few POS from FOF does not constitute removing our control of said region, has JF has explained time and time again. Finally, unfortunatly for TRI shooting ships down in ecp8r does not constitute control of PB. I stand by previous claims and accept the concept of a pirate infestation of PB, TRI being one of these pirate groups. On a persoanl note Assassin2, our reliance on our allies to support our claim of parts of PB, is something FOF is proud of. It is because we can be trusted and fufill a role in PB that suits our allies that such help is provided. This thread is not the place for you to discuss whether you like it or not. EDIT: Can we please get a clarification from TRI as to whom is their official spoke person on this thread ? Past experience suggests Wargod or Darknesss take that role. Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware

Karass Sayfo Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.26 13:18:00 - [568] Attempted thread cleaning. Please bear in mind of the rules : Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map. 2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar. 3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban. 4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread Thanks _______ forum rules \| COAD rules \| [email protected]

aydal Gallente Darklite inc	Posted - 2006.10.26 22:07:00 - [569] EKP ( Ekplitika ) no longer Claims anny space. The last EKP corp has left the alliance. /aydal former EKP member
zyphentits Sector 7	Posted - 2006.10.26 22:09:00 - [570] It seems the map isn't working today =/ ---------------------------------------------

WETRAIN Minmatar Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.26 23:19:00 - [571] Yo Joshua Venal - K3JR / N5Y / H-PA 3 tcf inhabited sistems are now clear, No more POE/TCF except for some stragglers, TCF removed their POS, POE are now fading into our killboards, most of theyr pvp members left. Venal - free area of the coalition Morhus Mihi / Kith Of Venal and usual residents as SYNCRONYZERS and Friendly Corps. No more French toast for us. ----------------------------------------- When People are Ready the Master will come. - Original by Anihilus - -----------------------------------------
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.27 02:01:00 - [572] In reference to Great Wildlands, I would like to again suggest the area is in need of being marked as contested. Imperium and Allied forces have all but completely removed all Veritas forces from the area. All that remains are non soverenity claiming POS and a few dire pilots struggling to travel through this area. Allied forces are able to mine, rat and sunbath with little to no risk throughout the entire Great Wildlands region. So again, I request that this area be marked contested at the very least. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.27 11:30:00 - [573] Originally by: w0rmy In reference to Great Wildlands, I would like to again suggest the area is in need of being marked as contested. Imperium and Allied forces have all but completely removed all Veritas forces from the area. All that remains are non soverenity claiming POS and a few dire pilots struggling to travel through this area. Allied forces are able to mine, rat and sunbath with little to no risk throughout the entire Great Wildlands region. So again, I request that this area be marked contested at the very least. Wake up in our primetime and look into the local. Regards /LD -V-eritas Immortalis Originally by: nync we fisrt time saw -v-members ctrl+qing to save their ships,we started to think how to pay attention of eve community
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.27 16:28:00 - [574] as a leader of "insurgency" alliance i respectfully ask to have Fountain a contested region(warzone). If we claim it or not does not matter. the documented owners have not been in the area for months, the area is lived in and fought for by, Xelas, Horde and Insurgency. because some are allied with certain people does not mean that it should be theres on the map. im not discussing this, just pointing out facts. thanks for changing this madness. d solo.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 17:12:00 - [575] Originally by: darth solo because some are allied with certain people does not mean that it should be theres on the map. So do you want to contest it in the name of insurgency vs BoB, Darth? Just so we're clear? Because like, if you have no intention of keeping it YOURSELF then your claim is baseless.
darth solo Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2006.10.27 17:49:00 - [576] Edited by: darth solo on 27/10/2006 17:51:02 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: darth solo because some are allied with certain people does not mean that it should be theres on the map. So do you want to contest it in the name of insurgency vs BoB, Darth? Just so we're clear? Because like, if you have no intention of keeping it YOURSELF then your claim is baseless. maybe we will, maybe we wont, thats not the point, the point is its not even a warzone now, like it was before. why is this?.. but this isnt the place to discuss it, iv said my bit and expect it to be changed, nothing more nothing less. d solo.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.27 18:05:00 - [577] Originally by: w0rmy In reference to Great Wildlands, I would like to again suggest the area is in need of being marked as contested. Imperium and Allied forces have all but completely removed all Veritas forces from the area. All that remains are non soverenity claiming POS and a few dire pilots struggling to travel through this area. Allied forces are able to mine, rat and sunbath with little to no risk throughout the entire Great Wildlands region. So again, I request that this area be marked contested at the very least. Infinitus Odium is leading successfull fleet battles in the GW. INFOD is defending -V-'s sovereignty claim. IMP forces are not strong enough to conquer let alone secure any station system in the GW. If sovereignty changes to IMP/whatever INFOD will claim the Constellation V-4QJC of which we recieved custody by Veritas Immortalis until the rightful owners return and take over sovereignty again. It is not enough to camp the khabi gate in 7q- 24/7 to claim an entire region my dear darling w0rmy.
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.27 18:58:00 - [578] Originally by: darth solo Edited by: darth solo on 27/10/2006 17:51:02 Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: darth solo because some are allied with certain people does not mean that it should be theres on the map. So do you want to contest it in the name of insurgency vs BoB, Darth? Just so we're clear? Because like, if you have no intention of keeping it YOURSELF then your claim is baseless. maybe we will, maybe we wont, thats not the point, the point is its not even a warzone now, like it was before. why is this?.. but this isnt the place to discuss it, iv said my bit and expect it to be changed, nothing more nothing less. d solo. Darth, you can't "expect" ANYTHING. Sure, we agree it's a warzone - but that's not what you're asking for. If you want to contest it, then by all means do so, so long as you realise what that actually means.
Cmd Woodlouse Solidline Enterprise Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:21:00 - [579] Originally by: darth solo as a leader of "insurgency" alliance i respectfully ask to have Fountain a contested region(warzone). If we claim it or not does not matter. the documented owners have not been in the area for months, the area is lived in and fought for by, Xelas, Horde and Insurgency. because some are allied with certain people does not mean that it should be theres on the map. im not discussing this, just pointing out facts. thanks for changing this madness. d solo. tbh we all have to find a solution to npc stations only areas. just because its "bob" that claims fountain, it doesnt change the fact that npc station areas are hard to control at all if there are hostile factions around. take venal eg. TCF have left, they even openly admitted it. and still no map change. strange, isnt it, joshua? -------------------------------- Spain ftw!
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:29:00 - [580] Originally by: Light Darkness Originally by: w0rmy In reference to Great Wildlands, I would like to again suggest the area is in need of being marked as contested. Imperium and Allied forces have all but completely removed all Veritas forces from the area. All that remains are non soverenity claiming POS and a few dire pilots struggling to travel through this area. Allied forces are able to mine, rat and sunbath with little to no risk throughout the entire Great Wildlands region. So again, I request that this area be marked contested at the very least. Wake up in our primetime and look into the local. Regards /LD I dont disagree with you. During your primetime you can log on pilots and can put up a fight, no ones disagreed with that point. But we both know the area of great wildlands deserves the mark of contested. You know you no longer control the area, your comment regarding timezones confirms this. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?

w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.27 23:34:00 - [581] Originally by: Tassi Infinitus Odium is leading successfull fleet battles in the GW. INFOD is defending -V-'s sovereignty claim. IMP forces are not strong enough to conquer let alone secure any station system in the GW. If sovereignty changes to IMP/whatever INFOD will claim the Constellation V-4QJC of which we recieved custody by Veritas Immortalis until the rightful owners return and take over sovereignty again. It is not enough to camp the khabi gate in 7q- 24/7 to claim an entire region my dear darling w0rmy. Unfortunately, safespotting fleets e02 is not enough to claim a region either. Your own comments above denote that GW should be now marked as contested. I have not asked, and do believe it is still to premature for the region to be marked as controlled by anyone. I think we can all agree, great wildlands should be marked as contested. The hold on the region is no longer -V-s. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.28 00:31:00 - [582] Edited by: Tassi on 28/10/2006 00:32:19 Originally by: w0rmy Unfortunately, safespotting fleets e02 is not enough to claim a region either. Your own comments above denote that GW should be now marked as contested. I have not asked, and do believe it is still to premature for the region to be marked as controlled by anyone. I think we can all agree, great wildlands should be marked as contested. The hold on the region is no longer -V-s. Okay, we pwn you everythime. Really, its not even funny, just take a look at our killboard . We pwn you EVEYTIME, even IF you bring in capital ships. You are so weak haha No really. No respect.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.28 01:24:00 - [583] Edited by: w0rmy on 28/10/2006 01:26:14 Originally by: Tassi Okay, we pwn you everythime. Really, its not even funny, just take a look at our killboard . We pwn you EVEYTIME, even IF you bring in capital ships. You are so weak haha No really. No respect. I think youre missing the point. We are not going to get into debating losses nor kills (the fact your killboard shows no losses for you proves how pointless that action would be) my comments are merely in reference to who controls GW. And right now, it is not V. And nothing you post has yet countered that claim. Therefore, I still ask the region of Great Wildlands be marked as contested. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.10.28 12:01:00 - [584] It's amasing how most people don't understand the SIMPLE and CLEAR rules of this thread... go make your own and go troll there and argue endlessly there... leave this thread open for official alliance spokepersons only. It's been cleaned 1 day ago and already the trolls are resurfacing... Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
Fast Track Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2006.10.29 02:44:00 - [585] Per previous discussions by parties here, Fountain should be at the least be considered Xelas owned and a warzone. This is post is made by applyiing the BoB rules of ownership. :)
elrikyo Puppets on Steroids iPOD Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.29 10:00:00 - [586] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 28/10/2006 01:26:14 Originally by: Tassi Okay, we pwn you everythime. Really, its not even funny, just take a look at our killboard . We pwn you EVEYTIME, even IF you bring in capital ships. You are so weak haha No really. No respect. I think youre missing the point. We are not going to get into debating losses nor kills (the fact your killboard shows no losses for you proves how pointless that action would be) my comments are merely in reference to who controls GW. And right now, it is not V. And nothing you post has yet countered that claim. Therefore, I still ask the region of Great Wildlands be marked as contested. To contest a region you have to be shooting POS's period. Camping gates does not count as contesting.
Blacklight Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.29 13:17:00 - [587] Originally by: Fast Track Per previous discussions by parties here, Fountain should be at the least be considered Xelas owned and a warzone. This is post is made by applyiing the BoB rules of ownership. :) Both Xelas and Horde agree Fountain is BoB space. We catagorically state it is BoB space. BoB has more POS/Outpost infrastructure in Fountain than any other entity. If there is fighting going on their then by all means call it a warzone. If another entity wishes to formally contest the region then by all means call it contested. It's BoB space now and it will be BoB space in the end, if it goes through a period of being contested in between that's not a problem to us. Blog
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.10.29 13:53:00 - [588] Please mark Paragon Soul as contested between BoB and ASCN. Thanks.
Skjersiments	Posted - 2006.10.29 14:59:00 - [589] SUGGESTION Can we have moving gifs over selected, disputed areas? I don't really know to what scale and such, but something a bit Civilization Replay-ish would be cool, from as far back as to... well, I don't really know! I hope this is not against the rules of the thread.
munchy Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.10.29 18:20:00 - [590] Originally by: elrikyo Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 28/10/2006 01:26:14 Originally by: Tassi Okay, we pwn you everythime. Really, its not even funny, just take a look at our killboard . We pwn you EVEYTIME, even IF you bring in capital ships. You are so weak haha No really. No respect. I think youre missing the point. We are not going to get into debating losses nor kills (the fact your killboard shows no losses for you proves how pointless that action would be) my comments are merely in reference to who controls GW. And right now, it is not V. And nothing you post has yet countered that claim. Therefore, I still ask the region of Great Wildlands be marked as contested. To contest a region you have to be shooting POS's period. Camping gates does not count as contesting. what good do pos's do in an npc controlled region? contesting an npc region is about presence, not killing sov that doesnt exist. you are the second person in this thread to admit IMP/Foundation has a large presence in the region. IMO that is the only way u can contest an npc region, please prove to me how mining pos's in u3k/vih show who controls the region. --- Originally by: Kaaii (UCC) We had better things to do with our resources in region. Mining Crimson ark.

Assassin 2 D00M. Triumvirate.	Posted - 2006.10.29 22:32:00 - [591] .
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.30 07:43:00 - [592] Official Announcement from -v-: -V-eritas Immortalis sended all Corps back to Scalding Pass. -V- is still present in Great Wildlands and we fight there against RA/GOON/IMP. So -V- set GW under Contested Space between -V- and RA/GOON/IMP. Great job so far RA/IMP/GOON. But we will get GW back. For sure. Regards /LD -V-eritas Immortalis Originally by: nync we fisrt time saw -v-members ctrl+qing to save their ships,we started to think how to pay attention of eve community
Dark' Lord Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.10.30 12:45:00 - [593] great wildlands should be contested space but not with RA and Goons as they have little to no presence in GW it should just be put as contested between IMP/TnT and -V-/allies

Ductoris Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.10.30 13:59:00 - [594] Read the rules for this thread listed in the second post, the troll/off topic posts are getting out of control. You will be issued a warning if your post does not meet the rules. You may only post in this thread as a rep of an Alliance or Corp asking for a map change, this is not a debate thread. If your post uses the words "but they don't have control" or "We're in control of the space not them" or "They don't even log on but once a day" chances are your not informing the map maker of a change but rather debating a change. Stop it, I will make you my personal play thing, and trust me, you won't like it. forum rules \| Email us\| Our Website! "Wait, there is a game?" There is no game -Kaemonn We wub you ductoris - Xorus <3 teh ducky - Immy

SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.10.30 15:42:00 - [595] Fountain contested. PNQ now has ASCN sov and the station is under our control. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Xiaodown Dragons Of Redemption Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.30 18:55:00 - [596] I think someone from Knights of the Southerncross or Red Alliance or Goonswarm should post an update about the status of Wicked Creek. I clearly am not the person to do that, and nothing I say should be taken as official, but as far as anyone in the southeast knows, this space seems to be changing hands - if not already, in the very near future.
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2006.10.30 20:28:00 - [597] Edited by: w0rmy on 30/10/2006 20:28:39 Originally by: Light Darkness Official Announcement from -v-: -V-eritas Immortalis sended all Corps back to Scalding Pass. -V- is still present in Great Wildlands and we fight there against RA/GOON/IMP. So -V- set GW under Contested Space between -V- and RA/GOON/IMP. Great job so far RA/IMP/GOON. But we will get GW back. For sure. Regards /LD Look forward to seeing you back here soon LD However, a small correction if I may, credit for contestation(If thats even a word) needs to be handed more in the Foundation/IMP/TNT direction than RA/Goon. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
Light Darkness Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.10.31 00:27:00 - [598] Originally by: w0rmy Edited by: w0rmy on 30/10/2006 20:28:39 Originally by: Light Darkness Official Announcement from -v-: -V-eritas Immortalis sended all Corps back to Scalding Pass. -V- is still present in Great Wildlands and we fight there against RA/GOON/IMP. So -V- set GW under Contested Space between -V- and RA/GOON/IMP. Great job so far RA/IMP/GOON. But we will get GW back. For sure. Regards /LD Look forward to seeing you back here soon LD However, a small correction if I may, credit for contestation(If thats even a word) needs to be handed more in the Foundation/IMP/TNT direction than RA/Goon. But dont forget. RA / IMP / GOON work linke in a coalition (also TNT are involved and jumped on the train). So not IMP or TNT alone did the job. Alos RA and GOON are present there. (RAGOONIMP coalition) /LD -V-eritas Immortalis Originally by: nync we fisrt time saw -v-members ctrl+qing to save their ships,we started to think how to pay attention of eve community
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.31 05:30:00 - [599] Edited by: Milano II on 31/10/2006 05:31:47 1st, as any contested space should show, the GW Region should have no color code representing any alliance as it is an 'up for grabs' area, being contested by IMP/Foundation/TNT against -V- While it is true there is an RA/GOON/IMP friendship going on, RA and GF are less than 15% involved in the fighting in the G.W. region. Are you in agreement, Light? I'd believe this is sound, no? ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.10.31 22:26:00 - [600] Latley it's been IMP and TNT VS V in great wildlands. Seeing less and less of V in GW in fact. Plus there is no "official" war now. ------------- Minmatar is hard mode___

Harcole Amarr Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.11.02 14:25:00 - [601] TNT are offically operating out of Greatwild Lands as of 10/11/2006. We do however have a group of pilots operating there now, and we are flying Solo groups and joing fleet operations with both Foundation and Imperium with succesfull take and hold missions of NK-7XO, E02-IK, 7Q-8Z2 and incursions north of E02-IK to B-VIP9, however INFOD have a stronger hold on B-VIP9 than what TNT/Imperium does, we do break up some camps there. Imperium also mine/rat in U3K with little to no hostile intervention and I've yet to personally see any combat in SUR, OK- or U3K. Harcole TNT - Alcatraz Inc.

Laurelin1420 Gallente Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2006.11.02 15:31:00 - [602] Edited by: Laurelin1420 on 02/11/2006 15:33:07 Edited by: Laurelin1420 on 02/11/2006 15:32:23 Rules for this thread 1. Only post changes you believe should be made to the map. 2. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, contact a representative of your alliance and have them contact the map maker via eve mail or similar. 3. If you disagree with the map makers decisions, do not post, your post will be considered off topic and deleted, you may recieve a warning or a ban. 4. If the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. 5. Unidentified alts should not post in this thread. Cleaned.Do behave yourselves in this thread.If you'd like to chat about who controls what etc , go start a thread on the Corporation and Alliance board.All off-topic posts will be deleted and considered trolling. This is NOT a discussion thread. Ta Forum Rules I stole your sheep, and traded them for a cookie!- Tirg Oh noes , the evil of Tirg! - Laurelin

Sabriel Lirael	Posted - 2006.11.02 16:01:00 - [603] I would have said that geminte was Smash/Roadkill not E-U seeing as Smash and Roadkill are the ones with the outpost's.
Azax	Posted - 2006.11.02 17:25:00 - [604] Just want to say as Foundation leader that we are also present in Great Wildlands (mostly around N-DQ) and fight against -V- and their allies with Imperium and TNT ... Don't miss it Azax (Ceo FDN)
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.03 05:49:00 - [605] Yes. ^^^ Imperium and Foundation are now the primary force in the GW area. -V- are barely around (lightdarkness posted that they moved down to scalding pass.. will attempt to take gw back sometime soon) however, it should either show as belonging to imp/tnt/foundation... or just plain be contested between those parties. attn mods: I am not discussing who "may" control the area..... I was looking to form an agreement, as per stated in the rules, with alliance leaders in -V-. ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.03 11:07:00 - [606] Originally by: Sabriel Lirael I would have said that geminte was Smash/Roadkill not E-U seeing as Smash and Roadkill are the ones with the outpost's. are you smash or roadkill? No. you are not authorized to post on our behalf. Josh, please ignore this altboi. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
TalanR Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.03 11:26:00 - [607] Imperium and Allied force (Foundation & TNT) claim Great Wildlands. there has been no ûV- activity lately. The northern part is under complete control but we wonÆt object against making the southern part of GW contested. TalanR Imperium Alliance Diplomat
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.03 18:31:00 - [608] Originally by: TalanR The northern part is under complete control No. INFOD claims V-4QJC Constellation of the Great Wildlands, snip Arguments removed - Ductoris
Tas Devil JUDGE DREAD Inc. Forces of Freedom	Posted - 2006.11.04 12:21:00 - [609] Could you please modify the map accordingly to reflect FOF sovereignty in Pure Blind ? Our claim centers on 4 constellations...YS-GOP, WMP-OF, LY-FY6 and parts of U8-CWA. This amounts to the corridor between the Lonetrek entrances to PureBlind and the Deklein/Fade entrances. We do not claim the central PureBlind region around X70MU so a representation like you used for EKP with 2 small patches tied with a line might work :) Thanks Joshua ! (Thanks mods team : over moderation and blind removal of posts is the way to go !) Tas The best Laugh ever ... Credit goes to TheKiller8 for this ! This includes bad language... so beware
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.04 14:25:00 - [610] New map is up, bring ze flames! ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Amy Smart Caldari moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.04 15:12:00 - [611] what the hell???? please change venal to Dusk and Dawn. MM isnt in charge of venal and Kith are one of my beloved residents. D2 adminstrate this NPC area for a quite new home for the corps living ther. -------------------------------------------------- - moon7empler :: Dusk and Dawn - - Madam Adminstrator of Venal -
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.04 15:50:00 - [612] The BoB fanboi is strong in you. Anyway, Impass warzone is missing a number. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Miss Lilly Gallente hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.04 18:54:00 - [613] Originally by: Amy Smart what the hell???? please change venal to Dusk and Dawn. MM isnt in charge of venal and Kith are one of my beloved residents. D2 adminstrate this NPC area for a quite new home for the corps living ther. Morsus Mihi does not claim Venal. Venal belongs to Dusk and Dawn.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.04 19:41:00 - [614] Edited by: SamuraiJack on 04/11/2006 19:42:02 Edited by: SamuraiJack on 04/11/2006 19:41:51 BoB hold GQ2 atm. So you mark Paragon contested... ASCN hold PNQ... And you mark a tiny bit of fountain contested? After the other update of Paragon being marked contested without even Bob holding a station? Words fail me. Either be a neutral observer or give up the map. :edit: Delve and Querious are warzones too by the way. ASCN is conducting combat operations in those areas. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Goberth Ludwig eXceed Inc. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.04 20:46:00 - [615] Joshua you forgot to contest Feythabolis, Esoteria and Orsoulaert (we have an office there). - Gob Originally by: SirMolle ASCN is feeling the cold, chilling tendrils of fear creep into the hearts of their alliance.
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.11.04 22:29:00 - [616] This new map are totaly random
Neisha Spectrum Solutions INC Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.04 23:06:00 - [617] It is Kith of Venal, not Kiith of Venal. Thanks,
Neisha Spectrum Solutions INC Kith of Venal	Posted - 2006.11.04 23:19:00 - [618] Originally by: Miss Lilly Originally by: Amy Smart what the hell???? please change venal to Dusk and Dawn. MM isnt in charge of venal and Kith are one of my beloved residents. D2 adminstrate this NPC area for a quite new home for the corps living ther. Morsus Mihi does not claim Venal. Venal belongs to Dusk and Dawn. well ... then will be more for us :) Modify please, Venal - Kith of Venal.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.04 23:57:00 - [619] Originally by: SamuraiJack BoB hold GQ2 atm. So you mark Paragon contested... Im pretty sure i only marked part of Paradon contested, but ill double check that later. Originally by: SamuraiJack Xelas allaince? Come on... Its Either BoB space or its Xelas's. Mark it as such. Can you people please stop whining about this? Its Bob space, end of discussion. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.05 11:13:00 - [620] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: SamuraiJack Xelas allaince? Come on... Its Either BoB space or its Xelas's. Mark it as such. Can you people please stop whining about this? Its Bob space, end of discussion. Fine. Bob space. So surely should be said that is BoB not Xelas allaince on the map? Also. Who the hell deleted my post? I am ASCN's offical diplomat and contact for this thread? SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.05 11:42:00 - [621] Did you even look at the map or did you figure youd just whine for the heck of it? Mine says "2) Fountain - Contested between Insurgency & ASCN and the Bob Alliance". ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DeeJunky	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:04:00 - [622] Sorry GM, but Azax is my alt and is CEO of FOUNDATION alliance, so it was normal as representative to post here, but you're not agree ... "However, a small correction if I may, credit for contestation(If thats even a word) needs to be handed more in the Foundation/IMP/TNT direction than RA/Goon." wOrmy (Intensive CareBearz) Want to confirm then that FOUNDATION is in Great Wildlands, and fight on the same side mostly with Imperium, TNT. RA and Goonswarm are more around N-RAEL and Scalding Pass. FOUNDATION is mostly based around M-M and N-DQ -->V-IH. LONG LIFE TO PEACE AND FREEDOM !
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.05 12:33:00 - [623] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Did you even look at the map or did you figure youd just whine for the heck of it? Mine says "2) Fountain - Contested between Insurgency & ASCN and the Bob Alliance". 7) Insurgency & ASCN vs Xelas and Horde. Capisce? SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Beyond Horizon UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 16:38:00 - [624] KOS alliance is not fighting alongside RA - BH
Trancestor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:46:00 - [625] Edited by: Trancestor on 05/11/2006 17:49:58 Edited by: Trancestor on 05/11/2006 17:48:18 Hi Mister Map Maker. On Point 4 of the Map the Informations are a bit wrong The Coalition is fighting against Goonswarm as well. So it have to change to The Coalition vs Red Alli, Goons, Tau Ceti, Kos, United Legion. I think the Lead of Goons can confirm this. greetings and good work with your map. trance ---------------------------------------------
Trancestor Caldari	Posted - 2006.11.05 17:50:00 - [626] On Point 1-5 are the infos wrong too they have to change to V vs Imp,Kos,Red,Foundation,TNT,Pirates. I thing they can confirm this as well greetings trance ---------------------------------------------
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.05 19:02:00 - [627] Is it just me, are are the coalition trying to look like theyr beeing gang banged now
Trooper B99 Caldari Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.11.05 20:21:00 - [628] Originally by: SamuraiJack Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Did you even look at the map or did you figure youd just whine for the heck of it? Mine says "2) Fountain - Contested between Insurgency & ASCN and the Bob Alliance". 7) Insurgency & ASCN vs Xelas and Horde. Capisce? Warzone: 7) Insurgency & ASCN vs Xelas and Horde. [you are fighting mainly them not BoB in that area, no?] Contested: b) Fountain - contaested between Insurgency and ASCN vs BOB Alliance [you are contesting with bob, not Xelas/Horde, no?] Wirykomi Team Racer - COLOSSUS Championships Year 106
Beyond Horizon UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.05 22:41:00 - [629] Originally by: Crucifier Is it just me, are are the coalition trying to look like theyr beeing gang banged now Nah, I think that Transcestor is just an alt of a coalition member who is being retarded :) Anyways, the list Trancestor provided is total bullsh*t, scalding pass is only a warzone for RA + GS vs. V + LV - BH
Harcole Amarr Alcatraz Inc. Tactical Narcotics Team	Posted - 2006.11.05 23:12:00 - [630] TNT are not active in Scalding pass, you may see some of us there but they are out on there own/small gangs. TNT is currently active in Great Wildlands with Imperium and Foundation. As I already posted.

Caldess 0utbreak	Posted - 2006.11.06 17:23:00 - [631] You mispelled Kith of Venal. --------------
maria stallion Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.06 19:09:00 - [632] this has nothing to do with the map, but it needs to be said. SHOW SOME RESPECT FOR THE MAP MAKER, HE ISN"T YOUR SLAVE!!! he spends his free time on doing this and he is helping the community. Show some respect instat off treating him like some slave.
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.06 23:32:00 - [633] Originally by: Trancestor On Point 1-5 are the infos wrong too they have to change to V vs Imp,Kos,Red,Foundation,TNT,Pirates. I thing they can confirm this as well greetings trance imho? IMP/Foundation/TNT should be written someplace above the GW region... as -V- have already stated they moved to Scalding Pass and there is barely any sizeable fighting going on there. small ganks now and again, with your once-in-awhile fleet of 30 -V- coming through. IMP/Foundation/TNT for G.W. RA is not here fighting in G.W. with us yet-will that change? We don't know, and we probably wouldn't say. As of now thats how it sits, anyway. There are no pirates, unless you consider a 12 man corp with maybe 5 active to be an insane amount of pirates.. then, yes maybe. so yes we concur... minus Red, KOS and Pirates. ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
Kruzenshtern Aeria Gloris Inc United Legion	Posted - 2006.11.06 23:54:00 - [634] Please delist United Legion from the politically correct but factually/territorially overstated involvement in 4) Listing us as a force acting in Immensea vs Chimaera Pact, Myriad and Maelstrom would be more accurate. Many thanks in advance
Ammath	Posted - 2006.11.07 04:10:00 - [635] You should put New Eden Conglomorates territory down in Pure Blind
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.07 14:59:00 - [636] ASCN have lost PNQ and have pulled out of Fountain. No need for contestation anymore. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
eveceo1 Gallente Revival.	Posted - 2006.11.08 11:05:00 - [637] Originally by: DB Preacher ASCN have lost PNQ and have pulled out of Fountain. No need for contestation anymore. Thanks, dbp CELES are still there, which means they contest that space. _______________ Yar!Ö
Mobile Oak Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.09 15:35:00 - [638] Joshua - thanks for taking the time to do all these maps. They're very neat to see, and often my only source of information regarding far-off realms of space. One thing I did notice about the map is that it seems the font size on the NUTS alliance is slightly larger than the rest.
Caledric Amarr Spectral Armada Eternal Empire	Posted - 2006.11.09 16:30:00 - [639] Curious as to who the pirate infestation in Pureblind is refering to... EE are not a pirate infestation, we are an alliance.
marcouk2 Gallente Synergy. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.09 20:01:00 - [640] Originally by: Caledric Curious as to who the pirate infestation in Pureblind is refering to... EE are not a pirate infestation, we are an alliance. prob the people who actually have an affect on the region i.e. triumvirate

Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.10 07:39:00 - [641] As its been mentioned here... There are 4 outposts in Geminate 2 controlled by E-U (IPS Constellation, already on map) 1 controlled by Roadkill - K25 (sorry am at work, don't know constellation 1 controlled by SMASH - TDE4 (again, don't know constellation, as am at work) E-U/CDC/PURE vs Smash/Roadkill/KOS Mark the area as you please It'd be nice to see RK/Smash added to the map, Their allied so i dunno if you want to put them seperately or combined on the map, that'd be upto smashkill ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:07:00 - [642] Edited by: Orc A on 10/11/2006 10:07:09 Just to add to Cartiff's statement - It's Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U, CDC, Pure, and Astral Wolves (CdC tenants). Engagements aren't taking place in any specific system, but are pretty much all around the region. Just for comfort, i think the whole of Gem should be marked Warzone. Cartiff, you cool with that? Edit: typos Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.10 10:12:00 - [643] Edited by: Silvitni on 10/11/2006 10:13:24 Originally by: Orc A Edited by: Orc A on 10/11/2006 10:07:09 Just to add to Cartiff's statement - It's Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U, CDC, Pure, and Astral Wolves (CdC tenants). Engagements aren't taking place in any specific system, but are pretty much all around the region. Just for comfort, i think the whole of Gem should be marked Warzone. Cartiff, you cool with that? Edit: typos IPS constellation/lower geminate is not an warzone (where we have our outposts). Except from some occasional gankers there. Rest of geminate can be put as a warzone. And agree on Astral Wolves
Xendie Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.10 13:25:00 - [644] Edited by: Xendie on 10/11/2006 13:27:01 Edited by: Xendie on 10/11/2006 13:26:12 Originally by: Silvitni Edited by: Silvitni on 10/11/2006 10:13:24 Originally by: Orc A Edited by: Orc A on 10/11/2006 10:07:09 Just to add to Cartiff's statement - It's Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U, CDC, Pure, and Astral Wolves (CdC tenants). Engagements aren't taking place in any specific system, but are pretty much all around the region. Just for comfort, i think the whole of Gem should be marked Warzone. Cartiff, you cool with that? Edit: typos IPS constellation/lower geminate is not an warzone (where we have our outposts). Except from some occasional gankers there. Rest of geminate can be put as a warzone. And agree on Astral Wolves F-E alone has killed BWF so much for 2 weeks that E-R has gone for "business elsewhere" 23/6, thats 23h a day 6days a week Quote: Nertzius > having fun being incompetitent?
Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.10 14:12:00 - [645] Edited by: Silvitni on 10/11/2006 14:16:52 Originally by: Xendie Edited by: Xendie on 10/11/2006 13:27:01 Edited by: Xendie on 10/11/2006 13:26:12 Originally by: Silvitni Edited by: Silvitni on 10/11/2006 10:13:24 Originally by: Orc A Edited by: Orc A on 10/11/2006 10:07:09 Just to add to Cartiff's statement - It's Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U, CDC, Pure, and Astral Wolves (CdC tenants). Engagements aren't taking place in any specific system, but are pretty much all around the region. Just for comfort, i think the whole of Gem should be marked Warzone. Cartiff, you cool with that? Edit: typos IPS constellation/lower geminate is not an warzone (where we have our outposts). Except from some occasional gankers there. Rest of geminate can be put as a warzone. And agree on Astral Wolves F-E alone has killed BWF so much for 2 weeks that E-R has gone for "business elsewhere" 23/6, thats 23h a day 6days a week It¦s true that E-R operates elsewhere atm. This is because we dont see any potential/capable threat to BWF/ips constellation atm. In this case, elsewhere is tde4 and k25, where Smash and Roadkill have there outpost¦s
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.10 16:26:00 - [646] Hmm, so, a more accurate statement would be Roadkill/Smash/KOs/F-E vs E-U, CDC, Pure, Astral Wolves. Now that we have F-E in the equasion, i think whole of geminite deserve warzone marker. I mean, Gem is so small that splitting it up into little fractions of where the warzone is and isnt is just silly. that cool with you? Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.11 02:11:00 - [647] Edited by: Cartiff on 11/11/2006 02:12:48 Marking smashkill on the map, and marking all geminate a warzone is kool with me. F-E shot our residents for a few weeks, e-r came back for a few days, and f-e have wandered off. IPS is atm safe, but i doubt that will continue for long lol. Fights 4tw ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Lunas Feelgood Euphoria Released	Posted - 2006.11.11 11:36:00 - [648] IPS constellation shoulnt be marked as a warzone.. It is true F-E operate with 6-7 guys in cloaked ship while E-R forces are concentrating all our forces on the wars with Smash/KOS/Roadkill.. So IPS contellation is not contested.. IPS constellation marked that as E-U sov any other part of germinate 1 big warzone.. And give roadkill and Smash a mark in tde4 and k25.. Also, Just want to remind all those 10 man gank corp staying in a sys cloaked you do do not deserver any mention at all any monkey in a spacesuit could do that and it just confuse the map maker..
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.11 12:02:00 - [649] Luny, your not a director, and E-R lead is happy with Gemi being a warzone, it doesn't matter. Josh, as you please bigman ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.11 16:43:00 - [650] "Monkeys" ? Are we not supposed to be polite and not argue Not sure I will recover from this, Lunas. This moneky has been cut deep Well anyway, us monkeys have the link to our kb in our corp description for a limited time.(works best out of game) If you wish to view this kb, you may get some idea as to what is going on. [sarcasm on] I would like to resolve a possible issue with the gm team regarding the possiblity (might be a bug) of killing people while cloaked. Please excuse the many kills on our kb, which we got while cloaked; I assure you we are not cheating. It's a game mechanic!! [end sarcasm] For any further illumination of the situation please feel free to visit BWF/8mg; do come insured. Vale/Gem is contested.

Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.11 16:46:00 - [651] GreatWildlands is still IMP/TNT. There's a few -V- around but not enough to show contested. ------------- Minmatar is hard mode___
Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.12 00:16:00 - [652] Edited by: Silvitni on 12/11/2006 00:17:41 Orc A, we have no problem marking geminate as a warzone. The warzone should be contested between: Smash/Roadkill/KOS and E-U/CDC/Pure Although D2 is active in geminate atm, they are not gonna contest the area. As with random ganking squads Do you agree on this Orc a?
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.12 13:44:00 - [653] Yup, Mark Geminite as warzone + k25 as contested. As for the D2 remark, their presence in the area and their aid in the battle have braught you a serious advantage. I'm not in full agreement with you that they shouldnt be "oficially involved" in the contestion, but thats up to them to decide, wether they want to be on that marker or no. If you ask me, they should be. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.12 13:45:00 - [654] Also, please include Astral wolves on the maarker, as they are taking an active part in the war. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.12 14:55:00 - [655] Edited by: Ender Hawks on 12/11/2006 14:56:09 Orc has a very good point... If we are to be accurate: E-R/CDC/PURE/NSN/-TC- Alliance/D2/Morsis Mihi/Arrow Project/United Knights Mining/Lunar Dawn/Soul Collectors/9th Fleet Alliance/RATEL Alliance/TSA Alliance/Astral Wolves Alliance....<----Not joking I've probably left out a corporation or alliance but basically they've enlisted/nap'd everyone within a 12x region radius. If E-R wish to be truely accurate and honest with the community, then they will agree with the above listing. Now for the VS. Smash/RoadKill/KoS/F-E/WRECK/VoC That is it
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.12 20:21:00 - [656] Originally by: Ender Hawks Edited by: Ender Hawks on 12/11/2006 14:56:09 Orc has a very good point... If we are to be accurate: E-R/CDC/PURE/NSN/-TC- Alliance/D2/Morsis Mihi/Arrow Project/United Knights Mining/Lunar Dawn/Soul Collectors/9th Fleet Alliance/RATEL Alliance/TSA Alliance/Astral Wolves Alliance....<----Not joking I've probably left out a corporation or alliance but basically they've enlisted/nap'd everyone within a 12x region radius. If E-R wish to be truely accurate and honest with the community, then they will agree with the above listing. Now for the VS. Smash/RoadKill/KoS/F-E/WRECK/VoC That is it Lets work the list. E-R - Yup CDC - Yup Pure - Yup As we're part of the same coalition. NSN - about 2 members of NSN actually assisting. TC - their in providence if i remember correctly, they were here, but not anymore. D2 - Yup Morsus Mihi - They offered help, but i haven't seen them about Arrow Project - Yup, but only 1 corp and only 2pilots in total if i remember correctly United Knights Mining/Lunar Dawn/Soul Collectors/9th Fleet Alliance - Are E-R resident corps and so do join our fleets from time to time. (9th Fleet Alliance, only 1 corp from that alliance are residents of E-R, the rest are not) RATEL - Yup, their blue but our alliances do our own thing TSA - not sure who these people even are, so no afaik Astral wolves - their blue and roam about, thats about it, they do their own thing. For the reference of the map maker... E-R/CDC/PURE vs RK/SMASH/KOS If D2 want to be represented thats upto them, atm north is abit boring and they want some fun so they've come by to see their old mates E-R. ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.13 01:10:00 - [657] D2 should certainly be on the warzone list, if bringing a fleet and a dozen+ dreads doesn't earn an addition to the warmarker, than i don't know what does. Plenty of A-w have been involved as well, but they seem to be CDC residents and not really very potent to say the least. I will agree that Ratel doesn't deserve to be on any warmarker at this point, i don't think they have been involved in any major activities. my thought is eu4ia, cdc, pure, d2 vs rk, smash, kos
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 02:55:00 - [658] Quote: Lets work the list. E-R - Yup CDC - Yup Pure - Yup As we're part of the same coalition. Lets do that... Quote: NSN - about 2 members of NSN actually assisting. Uhh, Duh!! So in other words, they are assisting! Not smacking but all one should do is view the NSN board or WRECK board to see how active they are in Gem/Vale. Quote: TC - their in providence if i remember correctly, they were here, but not anymore. TC run the Akora to EOA corridor, and have been active as recently as today! Quote: D2 - Yup Understatement of the year? D2 had a 40+ fleet in BWF today and brought 5-10 Dreads up to the Northern campaign area. Quote: Morsus Mihi - They offered help, but i haven't seen them about Morsus Mihi has indeed arrived in BWF multiple times, accomplishing nothing but nevertheless they help. Quote: Arrow Project - Yup, but only 1 corp and only 2pilots in total if i remember correctly There are three corps in the area and we have frapse, as does Smash, of Forsakened Few (Arrow Project) assisting with Carriers/Dreads in your K25/TDE campaign. Quote: United Knights Mining/Lunar Dawn/Soul Collectors/9th Fleet Alliance - Are E-R resident corps and so do join our fleets from time to time. (9th Fleet Alliance, only 1 corp from that alliance are residents of E-R, the rest are not) Note the boldened text: That means they assist and thus should be counted toward being apart of your campaign, duh. Quote: RATEL - Yup, their blue but our alliances do our own thing TSA - not sure who these people even are, so no afaik RATEL have assisted with your campaign in the North and your welcome to contact a RATEL member for verification. They are honorable guys and will confirm my statements. TSA have sided with RATEL and are assisting them, although I'm not sure in what capacity and to what extent. Quote: Astral wolves - their blue and roam about, thats about it, they do their own thing. Astral wolves are insignificant in terms of pvp assistance, hwoever they do assist in BWF and do take part in joint fleet ops with UKMS, Lunar Dawn, and Soul collectors, who we have established as being apart of this campaign. (Cartiff said so) Quote: For the reference of the map maker... E-R/CDC/PURE vs RK/SMASH/KOS If D2 want to be represented thats upto them, atm north is abit boring and they want some fun so they've come by to see their old mates E-R. Revision: E-R/CDC/PURE/NSN/-TC- Alliance/D2/Arrow Project/Ukms, Lunar Dawn, Sould Collectors/RATEL Left out: Morsus Mihi, 9th Fleet, TSA, and Astral Wolves. These alliances do indeed assist but its relatively minor compared to what the others are contributing; as it stands now that is. VS Smash/Roadkill/KoS/F-E/WRECK/VoC Again, for a legitimate understanding of the situation it would be wise to view the killboards, if only to see who is active and in what areas, and to contact those invovled.
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium	Posted - 2006.11.13 09:02:00 - [659] Originally by: Ender Hawks Quote: Lots Of Ego Boostings... You are not contesting the area, you don't even fight much there, your just a shadow of your former selfs. Now do us a favour, read the rules of the thread and for the love of god stfu already. FE is dead, it always will be
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.13 10:12:00 - [660] WRECK is nt on our side, they are hostile to us. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!

Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:04:00 - [661] Originally by: Graalum D2 should certainly be on the warzone list, if bringing a fleet and a dozen+ dreads doesn't earn an addition to the warmarker, than i don't know what does. Plenty of A-w have been involved as well, but they seem to be CDC residents and not really very potent to say the least. I will agree that Ratel doesn't deserve to be on any warmarker at this point, i don't think they have been involved in any major activities. my thought is eu4ia, cdc, pure, d2 vs rk, smash, kos I know this is not an arguing thread but anyway. Sometimes the retardation has to be stopped before Josh finds his way here. To the best of my knowledge Josh always try to have the map depicting the ones with a territorial claim to the area. A few times that means leaving out friends who help out because they have no territorial interest. SMASH and Roadkill are going totally overboard with their "everyone we shoot and find in geminate should be included on the map on the E-R side" approach. It's silly really. You are on the ******* map already as contesting an area, why do you even bother with anything else, except ofcourse if the purpose is a massive ego boosting pr campaign.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.13 11:05:00 - [662] when i read this thread about who with who, and whatnot i feel the need to hit my head against a wall. In the end the map doenst show that well whats happening, and there i no need for a page of bla for it. Something is going on in geminate, d2 is giving e-r a hand. Thats about it.
The End Amarr Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 12:59:00 - [663] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Ender Hawks Quote: Lots Of Ego Boostings... You are not contesting the area, you don't even fight much there, your just a shadow of your former selfs. Now do us a favour, read the rules of the thread and for the love of god stfu already. FE is dead, it always will be And just who are you? we are in bwf/8mg everyday and you are not who's alt are you then?
Durvaul Caldari SAS Strike Team Lacuna Viators Imperium	Posted - 2006.11.13 13:14:00 - [664] Originally by: The End Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Ender Hawks Quote: Lots Of Ego Boostings... You are not contesting the area, you don't even fight much there, your just a shadow of your former selfs. Now do us a favour, read the rules of the thread and for the love of god stfu already. FE is dead, it always will be And just who are you? we are in bwf/8mg everyday and you are not who's alt are you then? Im no ones alt, my point is simple, roving gangs of say 10 people do not qualify contested, do they?
The End Amarr Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 14:19:00 - [665] Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: The End Originally by: Durvaul Originally by: Ender Hawks Quote: Lots Of Ego Boostings... You are not contesting the area, you don't even fight much there, your just a shadow of your former selfs. Now do us a favour, read the rules of the thread and for the love of god stfu already. FE is dead, it always will be And just who are you? we are in bwf/8mg everyday and you are not who's alt are you then? Im no ones alt, my point is simple, roving gangs of say 10 people do not qualify contested, do they? You have no clue about anything. then again im talking to a character made in january of this year.... I dare you to come to ips constellation do come insured btw
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.13 16:55:00 - [666] The great wildlands will remain contested unless xirtam contacts me to discuss surrender terms. Yes, you may return to empire IMP.
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.13 17:05:00 - [667] The interested parties seem to have agreed what should be on the map. Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U/CDC/Pure/Astral Wolves I think the alliances are enough, if we add every corp whos shooting someone in Gemi, the map legend will have to be dramatically increased in size ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.13 19:43:00 - [668] Guys.. "& Friends" is your friend [EVE TASK BAR?]
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.13 21:27:00 - [669] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Graalum D2 should certainly be on the warzone list, if bringing a fleet and a dozen+ dreads doesn't earn an addition to the warmarker, than i don't know what does. Plenty of A-w have been involved as well, but they seem to be CDC residents and not really very potent to say the least. I will agree that Ratel doesn't deserve to be on any warmarker at this point, i don't think they have been involved in any major activities. my thought is eu4ia, cdc, pure, d2 vs rk, smash, kos I know this is not an arguing thread but anyway. Sometimes the retardation has to be stopped before Josh finds his way here. To the best of my knowledge Josh always try to have the map depicting the ones with a territorial claim to the area. A few times that means leaving out friends who help out because they have no territorial interest. SMASH and Roadkill are going totally overboard with their "everyone we shoot and find in geminate should be included on the map on the E-R side" approach. It's silly really. You are on the ******* map already as contesting an area, why do you even bother with anything else, except ofcourse if the purpose is a massive ego boosting pr campaign. So we are playing PR by having the map indicate the fact that D2 is currently a major player in the geminate conflict, but you aren't playing PR by trying to hide the fact that d2 is highly involved? In my case I'm simply asking that the 7 groups that are the most involved be represented. Ratel, A/W, lunar dawn, wreck, etc are minor players in this conflict, morsus and razor are uninvolved. None of these groups should be included as they are not actively assisting in the contestation of sovereignty in any of the station systems. D2 on the other hand, clearly is involved, and should be on the map. In a more personal note, I find the tendency of the northern coalition to misrepresent the conflict a little interesting.
DREAMWORKS Gallente Kill Em All Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 23:37:00 - [670] Tassi-if you want GW-come out your box and start fighting. Up till now,i dit only see you on scanner. IMP will never surender to anyone-not aslong i am FC. DREAMWORKS __________________________ http://www.nin.com/visuals/thtf_hi.html

Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.13 23:38:00 - [671] Edited by: Milano II on 14/11/2006 00:03:46 Originally by: Tassi The great wildlands will remain contested unless xirtam contacts me to discuss surrender terms. Yes, you may return to empire IMP. Anyone who's anyone knows XirtamVotf and no he won't be contacting you for a surrender. We came back HOME. We are here to stay. No falling back. Imperium Alliance will agree to allow the "Pirate Infestation" signification to show on G.W. (that pirate infestation would be Infod) Yet G.W. in whole is largely in control by IMP/TNT/Foundation..... Infod has a POS in 7Q... that is their only legitimate claim to G.W. and they are by far outnumbered by Imperium and its Allies. EDIT: Tassi, if the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
BustyBounty Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 00:21:00 - [672] Originally by: Tassi The great wildlands will remain contested unless xirtam contacts me to discuss surrender terms. Yes, you may return to empire IMP. and the reason anyone from IMP would want to surrender or return to empire is what exactly? how can you contest a region you have very little pressence in? if i goto ascn space sit in some back of the woods system with my corp and im never seen anywhere but local or scanner do i get to contest a whole region to ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.
Ypsdoog	Posted - 2006.11.14 02:55:00 - [673] Edited by: Ypsdoog on 14/11/2006 02:57:07
XirtamVotf Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 02:56:00 - [674] Tassi step away from the cRACk pipe and get back in your box
Ypsdoog	Posted - 2006.11.14 02:56:00 - [675] Edited by: Ypsdoog on 14/11/2006 02:56:52
Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 04:52:00 - [676] Edited by: Roland 99 on 14/11/2006 04:52:20 OMFG!!! I am so scared of VI undocking in shuttles and PEW PEW PEW'ing their way to freedom. I invite all of you to gather the torn scraps of your busted ass alliance and expedite your outright demise. It will be a welcome change to see you people fight for once. _______
Recluse Viramor Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.14 06:00:00 - [677] Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 14/11/2006 06:01:20 Originally by: Abdalion Rules for this thread ... To all alliances: Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. I am sure the mapmaker would prefer the clarity. It is also acceptable for you to eve-mail the mapmaker in game. No arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. And please display your corp and alliance to avoid misunderstandings. If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. This is not a discussion thread, follow the rules above.
Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.14 06:08:00 - [678] Originally by: Recluse Viramor Edited by: Recluse Viramor on 14/11/2006 06:01:20 Originally by: Abdalion Rules for this thread ... To all alliances: Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. Too many people from the same alliance/faction posting differing information causes my head to explode trying to figure out who is who and trying to decipher what they are saying. I am sure the mapmaker would prefer the clarity. It is also acceptable for you to eve-mail the mapmaker in game. No arguing in this thread. Be polite, respectful, or don't post. And please display your corp and alliance to avoid misunderstandings. If you are an unidentified alt your posts don't belong here, no matter how well intentioned your post may be. Post with your main character about a relevant issue to your faction. This is not a discussion thread, follow the rules above. thank you for reiterating the obvious. shouldn't you and the rest of your RKK boys be thinking up of more creative propaganda ( read lies) instead of meddling in the petty skirmishes of "the dead alliance"? _______
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.14 06:39:00 - [679] Originally by: Milano II Tassi, if the situation can not be solved with a discussion between the contesting alliances and the map maker you can contact the moderator team and ask them to mediate. You are the dude that logged off when he landed in our bubble GW remains contested, solved.
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.14 08:10:00 - [680] Originally by: Graalum Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: Graalum D2 should certainly be on the warzone list, if bringing a fleet and a dozen+ dreads doesn't earn an addition to the warmarker, than i don't know what does. Plenty of A-w have been involved as well, but they seem to be CDC residents and not really very potent to say the least. I will agree that Ratel doesn't deserve to be on any warmarker at this point, i don't think they have been involved in any major activities. my thought is eu4ia, cdc, pure, d2 vs rk, smash, kos I know this is not an arguing thread but anyway. Sometimes the retardation has to be stopped before Josh finds his way here. To the best of my knowledge Josh always try to have the map depicting the ones with a territorial claim to the area. A few times that means leaving out friends who help out because they have no territorial interest. SMASH and Roadkill are going totally overboard with their "everyone we shoot and find in geminate should be included on the map on the E-R side" approach. It's silly really. You are on the ******* map already as contesting an area, why do you even bother with anything else, except ofcourse if the purpose is a massive ego boosting pr campaign. So we are playing PR by having the map indicate the fact that D2 is currently a major player in the geminate conflict, but you aren't playing PR by trying to hide the fact that d2 is highly involved? In my case I'm simply asking that the 7 groups that are the most involved be represented. Ratel, A/W, lunar dawn, wreck, etc are minor players in this conflict, morsus and razor are uninvolved. None of these groups should be included as they are not actively assisting in the contestation of sovereignty in any of the station systems. D2 on the other hand, clearly is involved, and should be on the map. In a more personal note, I find the tendency of the northern coalition to misrepresent the conflict a little interesting. The whole involved thing has been solved on page 2, we agree about it, and i guess josh has already added us on the next map. In the end whatever u want to the map, D2 is there u can add us to the marker, who else is added is none of our buisness.

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.14 08:29:00 - [681] Originally by: Roland 99 thank you for reiterating the obvious. shouldn't you and the rest of your RKK boys be thinking up of more creative propaganda ( read lies) instead of meddling in the petty skirmishes of "the dead alliance"? Rather then flaming him, perhaps actually reading his post, the rules, would be a more useful way to spend ones time? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.14 12:29:00 - [682] Originally by: Cartiff The interested parties seem to have agreed what should be on the map. Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U/CDC/Pure/Astral Wolves/D2 I think the alliances are enough, if we add every corp whos shooting someone in Gemi, the map legend will have to be dramatically increased in size Fixed. ---- R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.14 13:00:00 - [683] fine by us, D2 happy with that? ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.14 16:29:00 - [684] If a corp or alliance is actively participating in the engagements and is flying in your gang, then they should be considered part of your coalition. F-E has been in BWF/8mg for about a month and we've had alot more then 10 people in that system and area. Ask yourself why E-R are so determined not to include all the people and why they refuse to acknowdledge F-E as part of this war. (Perhaps a history lesson is needed?) We are part of this war and if the map maker refuses to adjust appropriately and impartially, then we'll need moderation. E-U/CDC/PURE/D2/Arrow Project/Lunar Dawn/Soul Collectors/UKMS/NSN/-TC-/(Astral Wolves if yah want)/RATEL VS Smash/Roadkill/KoS/F-E/WRECK/VoC If the map maker would like information confirming the above info, I can provide it....
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2006.11.14 18:55:00 - [685] cough WRECK and RK are hostile to each other cough Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.14 21:01:00 - [686] Originally by: Cartiff fine by us, D2 happy with that? we couldnt care less, the involed ppl know who is there and who not
Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.15 08:39:00 - [687] Edited by: Silvitni on 15/11/2006 08:44:56 Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: Cartiff fine by us, D2 happy with that? we couldnt care less, the involed ppl know who is there and who not Then it¦s setteld Roadkill/Smash/KOS vs E-U/CDC/Pure/Astral Wolves/D2
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.16 01:41:00 - [688] Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: Cartiff fine by us, D2 happy with that? we couldnt care less, the involed ppl know who is there and who not Then it's settled... E-U/CDC/PURE/D2/RATEL/Arrow Project/Astral Wolves/ VS Smash/RoadKill/KoS/F-E/WRECK
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.16 04:22:00 - [689] Lets leave it to the mapmaker to decide lol Ender you make me chuckle ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
asdaasddfssd Caldari Blood Raiders Legion	Posted - 2006.11.16 08:10:00 - [690] Originally by: Amy Smart what the hell???? please change venal to Dusk and Dawn. MM isnt in charge of venal and Kith are one of my beloved residents. D2 adminstrate this NPC area for a quite new home for the corps living ther. if i remeber was no't D2 who no't give a **** on Venal wen TCF was living there and you only try to take them out wen CTF start to take MM and Guard Stations ? Take Venal now is free CTF is in South . im w8 to see some fights for Venal in next mounths

Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.16 09:10:00 - [691] Originally by: asdaasddfssd Originally by: Amy Smart what the hell???? please change venal to Dusk and Dawn. MM isnt in charge of venal and Kith are one of my beloved residents. D2 adminstrate this NPC area for a quite new home for the corps living ther. if i remeber was no't D2 who no't give a **** on Venal wen TCF was living there and you only try to take them out wen CTF start to take MM and Guard Stations ? Take Venal now is free CTF is in South . im w8 to see some fights for Venal in next mounths and we still dont care about venal, its npc space u cant control it and so we dont claim it. But corps ask us to if they are allowed to come there and mind their buisness, not that we care much but they do it. And Amy is taking care of those corps. As the latest maps shows, venal is claimed by mm and KTV, and we are fine with that. And next time u try to be a smart one get ur facts a bit straight, this post is old, the maps shows different, and if we would have any intrest in venal claiming it u would have probally noticed.
Dr Kojak Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.17 02:41:00 - [692] Edited by: Dr Kojak on 17/11/2006 02:42:27 Originally by: Hudsonn GreatWildlands is still IMP/TNT. There's a few -V- around but not enough to show contested. Not to ruin your day or anything; but when a couple of small corps can set up a pos and spank the big fierce alliances around (referring to you lot) can the area really be said to be under your control? The map is correct, allthoug I would prefer it said GW contested betwen Imperium, TNT, Goonfleet, Namtz and ra VS. some smaller corps, V and LV. doc
Orlando Gardner Amarr The Older Gamers Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.17 09:51:00 - [693] Thanks heaps for all your work on the Map Mr Fontain and to all your predecessors great resource
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.17 18:28:00 - [694] Quote: The map is correct, allthoug I would prefer it said GW contested betwen Imperium, TNT, Goonfleet, Namtz and ra VS. some smaller corps, V and LV. how can LV and V contest GW if they dont live there? you guys dont control anything unless you want a 10% timeshare in 7q ------------------------- I am a nobody of IMP my views are my own.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.17 18:48:00 - [695] Edited by: Tassi on 17/11/2006 18:50:25 Edited by: Tassi on 17/11/2006 18:49:57 Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui how can LV and V contest GW if they dont live there? you guys dont control anything unless you want a 10% timeshare in 7q LV is not contesting the GW, however, -V- is. let me calculate it for you, from downtime which is at 11:00-12:00 to 23:00 gmt we control the Great Wildlands to 100%, the only thing you can do is snipy snipy with 2 megathrons or stay docked this is 12 hours in total, more on weekends. Thus said, 10% of 24 hours is 2,4 hours and we control the GW for 12 hours which is 50%. (forgot to mention that this can vary from day to day about 10 % - 20 %, in both sides.) We showed our balls, show me yours, if you have some The Great Wildlands remain contested.
Jenny Spitfire Caldari Boryokudan Incorporated	Posted - 2006.11.17 22:00:00 - [696] Originally by: Tassi Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui how can LV and V contest GW if they dont live there? you guys dont control anything unless you want a 10% timeshare in 7q LV is not contesting the GW, however, -V- is. let me calculate it for you, from downtime which is at 11:00-12:00 to 23:00 gmt we control the Great Wildlands to 100%, the only thing you can do is snipy snipy with 2 megathrons or stay docked this is 12 hours in total, more on weekends. Thus said, 10% of 24 hours is 2,4 hours and we control the GW for 12 hours which is 50%. (forgot to mention that this can vary from day to day about 10 % - 20 %, in both sides.) We showed our balls, show me yours, if you have some The Great Wildlands remain contested. It is correct. We have total control of E02-IK, M-M, N-DQ at those times. Opposition is light. Resistance is futile. --------- Boryokudan Recruitment. Technica impendi Caldari generis. Pax Caldaria!
Veritas Information Veritas Immortalis Logistic Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.18 05:03:00 - [697] Great Wildlands remains contested. No 1 Alliance or Coaltion controls the entire Great Wildlands at all times. -V- Diplomatic contact -V- is a Proud Alliance... -V- is a Strong Alliance... -V- will Fight for it's Homespace... -V- will live in WAR!!!
Victor Vision Central Intelligence Service	Posted - 2006.11.19 15:50:00 - [698] Edited by: Victor Vision on 19/11/2006 16:05:04 Clicking the map links show a pic of an abaddon and not the map Works now, was probably in browser cache.
Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.19 16:00:00 - [699] Originally by: Victor Vision Clicking the map links show a pic of an abaddon and not the map Works for me. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
Pilk Axiom Empire	Posted - 2006.11.19 20:52:00 - [700] Your (the mod's) link to the April map is borked, just shows the latest map. --P

DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.19 22:41:00 - [701] Paragon Soul is under our complete control. All outpost systems are under our control. ASCN have put up no resistance to our completion of this take over in the last few systems of 3PPT, MP5 and LXW except self destructing ships left at pos. There are a couple of random small moon mining pos claiming but these have no bearing on the war at all. I would not even say it is a warzone as apart from the occasional gank squad (and I do mean maybe 2/3 per week), we are moving freely through the region without fear. Most fighting is occuring now in feth. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Amy Smart Caldari moon7empler Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.11.19 23:02:00 - [702] Originally by: asdaasddfssd if i remeber was no't D2 who no't give a **** on Venal wen TCF was living there and you only try to take them out wen CTF start to take MM and Guard Stations ? Take Venal now is free CTF is in South . im w8 to see some fights for Venal in next mounths thats incorrect. venal was settled by several resident corps during tcf was in. you dont live ther u invade it, but this isnt a thread of discussion. this is a thread of facts. venal is under control of d2. fly safe. -------------------------------------------------- - moon7empler :: Dusk and Dawn - - Madam Adminstrator of Venal -
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.20 00:16:00 - [703] Edited by: Crellion on 20/11/2006 00:17:46 Appologies dear Joshua I am not "teh Official Ambassador to the Map Maker"... we are not overly concerned with the map nor do we believe our name should be anywhere on it... I have however alliance authority to ask you one question pls: It appears (graphic bug?) that entity "RISE" has control over (parts of?) Syndicate on the map. Is that your intention? Thank You Crel- Not official envoy to the Map Maker. Edit: To avoid confusion we are asking you because we havent really seen any members of this "RISE" entity to ask directly lately (as in a month or so). Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Righteous Fury Slacker Industries Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2006.11.20 00:20:00 - [704] Edited by: Righteous Fury on 20/11/2006 00:20:14 technical bug: none of the historical map links work anymore, they just display current version. might be an issue with Chribba's redirects, but I have no idea.

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2006.11.20 07:55:00 - [705] Edited by: Chribba on 20/11/2006 08:02:37 Originally by: Righteous Fury Edited by: Righteous Fury on 20/11/2006 00:20:14 technical bug: none of the historical map links work anymore, they just display current version. might be an issue with Chribba's redirects, but I have no idea. edit: It was indeed a flaw on my side, it has hopefully been fixed now and should work as intended. Sorry about that. /c EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.20 22:53:00 - [706] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 20/11/2006 22:53:38 Heres a random question; If you have all your files burned to a DVD and they're inside a folder called "back up" but whenever you open the DVD it just shows it as empty. Anyone ever had this problem and knows of a way to fix it? Opening the DVD works just fine on my other computer, just need to find me an extra DVD burner since it doesn't have one. >.< Map update will be delayed for a few more days. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.21 00:11:00 - [707] Sounds like possibly the disc isn't closed (to allow more burning). That have a tendency to keep the disc from working properly on some dvd readers.
Crellion Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 08:10:00 - [708] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 20/11/2006 22:53:38 Heres a random question; If you have all your files burned to a DVD and they're inside a folder called "back up" but whenever you open the DVD it just shows it as empty. Anyone ever had this problem and knows of a way to fix it? Opening the DVD works just fine on my other computer, just need to find me an extra DVD burner since it doesn't have one. >.< Map update will be delayed for a few more days. How about replying what I asked you above Josh? should I conv you in game or? Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.21 08:39:00 - [709] Originally by: Hoshi Sounds like possibly the disc isn't closed (to allow more burning). That have a tendency to keep the disc from working properly on some dvd readers. Hmm im pretty sure i closed it, the DVD also worked fine the first day (I copied some fonts and programs off the DVD but didnt bother with the files as i want to see how purdy my games looked ^_^) Anyway guess ill drop by a store after work for a new DVD drive then. Originally by: Crellion How about replying what I asked you above Josh? should I conv you in game or? As far as im aware rise have claimed the upper bit of syndicate for months. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Frater Perdurabo The Ancient Illuminated Seers of Bavaria	Posted - 2006.11.21 16:55:00 - [710] Edited by: Frater Perdurabo on 21/11/2006 16:59:19 Originally by: Crellion How about replying what I asked you above Josh? should I conv you in game or? As far as im aware rise have claimed the upper bit of syndicate for months. I think the issue here is that the map shows RISE as claiming everything north of fd-, the entire portion of north syndicate including the areas around LSC4-P. In reality RISE like NORAD before them can only lay claim to the 2 constellations of syndicate of SKX-PL and QS-FVH (and possibly 6-V49K). Which are located in the north west of syndicate. (This overlaps somewhat with the arm containing the entrance from solitude) The YFN-UN constellation, and everything to the north or east of it (as far as FD-) are shown as RISE space, but if you go there its clearly not true, and afaik they have never ever layed claim to these areas. So i think what crell is saying is that your map borders are a bit inaccurate. A reduction so the line goes through say 3KNK-A, and does not contain the 2 northernmost synd constellations would probably be a more accurate portrayal. Note that whilst i dont live in the area, i was in norad 'back in the day' and know what we claimed. Afaik RISE only ever claimed the ex-norad areas. Also i know ** well there are several non alliance corps that live in various systems (LSC4 etc) in north synd. EDIT - isnt it a bit silly that the profanity filter bleeps out D-A-M-N? especially as that means it will bleep out half of **ation (see ) ----------------------------------- Please note that my response to this thread is probably a result of boredom, and its very likely that i dont care, but am posting in an attempt to wind someone up

Pepperami Art of War Anarchy Empire	Posted - 2006.11.21 18:05:00 - [711] I asked RISE the question in a thread in the Summit not long ago. RISE only claim the parts of syndicate that you can only access via outer ring (there's 3 constellations classed as "syndicate" but are outer ring in all but name). This is NOT everything above FD- (Upper syndicate). If RISEs claims have changed since a couple of weeks ago, I apologise. I'm posting the above for clarification of what has been stated by rise, not to get the map changed. Although as far as RIOT is concerned Syndicate needs no marker other than "Multi faction Warzone/Pirate infestation" because there's no way to tell who is most likely to kill you [EVE TASK BAR?]
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.21 23:39:00 - [712] Technical issues resolved, New map online. Shout if i missed anything. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Alerion Send In The Clones	Posted - 2006.11.22 06:42:00 - [713] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Technical issues resolved, New map online. Shout if i missed anything. You need to edit the subject line of the thread to have the new date. New map looks great, thanks for the effort you put into this.
Johnatan VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.11.22 10:21:00 - [714] Our alliance name is written wrong. Thank you. ---- start cut here ---- Evil Thug`s alt. ----- end cut here -----
Urgomar Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 10:31:00 - [715] For the point 8) Our Alliance is called Myriad (and neither Myrad nor Myraid) And Myriad is also fighting The Volition Cult in this area (probably allied with United Legion but I cant speak for them)
Manic Mole Keepers of the Holy Bagel The SUdden Death Squad	Posted - 2006.11.22 11:45:00 - [716] immensea is marked as contested on the map but not on the legend if anything I say offends, so what?
gerku Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.11.22 11:57:00 - [717] infod and friendly corp's are mainly in 7q and e02 and surrounding system's fighting imp,tnt,foundation but more V friendlys are coming back 2 GW but mainly it was infod+friends fighting in GW intill now
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 12:00:00 - [718] Joshua please check ownership of station in JLO-Z3 and update your map accordingly. How much costs unscheduled map update? --------------------
Cartiff Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.22 12:01:00 - [719] Gemi looks good, thank you josh ----------------------------------- "Uggs386 > omfg i like little boys" Originally by: Milivikal DeWrar GoonSwarm: powered by static electricty from polysci and law nerds rubbing stubble in thought.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.22 12:46:00 - [720] @Johnatan, Urgomar & Manic Mole; Good points, ill fix those when i get home. @Komolov; Hmm forgot all about it, ill include it in tonights fix as well. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.11.22 17:22:00 - [721] Hmm... I see no BoB pos's in Estoria. I see lots of ASCN and POS pos's. Claim Contested Rejected. I see no war markings in any of BoB space despite Multiple kills from ASCN members popping BoB. Added to that the Merc groups operating in those regions. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.22 18:38:00 - [722] Originally by: SamuraiJack I see no war markings in any of BoB space despite Multiple kills from ASCN members popping BoB. ? There are warzones marked in fountain and paragon soul, both of which are BoB space. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
DamienV Caldari MetaForge	Posted - 2006.11.22 20:03:00 - [723] The link to the previous map (I believe it was 10/30) has disapeared. Could we get that relinked.
Peoke Caldari Rome SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:18:00 - [724] F-e needs to be added to the coalition as they are the ones controling er in bwf and 8mg.
Ender Hawks Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.22 22:33:00 - [725] Smash/Roadkill/KoS/F-E VS. E-U/CDC/PURE/Arrow Project/RATEL/every region surrounding Gem/Vale.... E-R would love nothing better then to have F-E ignored and unacknowledged in this conflict as to lessen our effectiveness/achievements versus their coalition. BWF/8mg went from having 60+ pilot gate camps with 10x bubbles on the Oija gate to having 3-10 pilots (non F-E) with all those entering/leaving doing so in shuttles to avoid being slaughtered in anything expensive by none other than F-E Josh, you are biased if you promptly change (or dont change) the map based solely on the propaganda of ctrl-q alliance, err I mean E-U alliance.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.22 23:14:00 - [726] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain @Johnatan, Urgomar & Manic Mole; Good points, ill fix those when i get home. @Komolov; Hmm forgot all about it, ill include it in tonights fix as well. Make that tomorrow. Originally by: SamuraiJack Hmm... Just like last time, try looking closer... Originally by: Ender Hawks Josh, you are biased if you promptly change (or dont change) the map based solely on the propaganda of ctrl-q alliance, err I mean E-U alliance. If i cant verify something myself i have to base the map change on what i am told, the way people tell it plays a big factor; Smacktalking in this topic isn't going to help you. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.23 02:33:00 - [727] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Ender Hawks Josh, you are biased if you promptly change (or dont change) the map based solely on the propaganda of ctrl-q alliance, err I mean E-U alliance. If i cant verify something myself i have to base the map change on what i am told, the way people tell it plays a big factor; Smacktalking in this topic isn't going to help you. if you dont listen to what ppl say in this thread, and you dont bother to come and verify...or look at killboards. what is it exactly that you do base your map on? ender has nicely said that we are in bwf for a long time now, hostility towards your deaf ears..or eyes in this case is completely understandable considering your only listening to one side of the story,...aka cartiff. "the way people tell it plays a big factor" im sorry, but your personal feelings have nothing, and by nothing i mean absolutely in no way shape or form any weight on whether or not something is true. argue this point, and you admit to being biased^^. you provide a service, to inform ppl what is going on in eve, territorial wise. this isnt a thread about what youd like to be happening in eve, its about what IS happening in eve. the fact you are treating e-r from the start as what they say is true until proven wrong, yet you treat us as wrong until proven right, then refuse any sort of confirmation, is biased.
Cz Ire Minmatar Gradient Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.11.23 06:12:00 - [728] Bit of an oversight I noticed: Great wildlands is marked as B but not 5 on the map, but on the legend 5 lists the faction breakdown in GW which, imo, should be IMP/FDN/TNT/NMTZ/locals vs -V-/infod. NMTZ doesnt fit exactly under "locals", comeing in from MH, and INFOD did stick up a pos. they are not an alliance, but deserve some recognition for that. perhaps delete B and rename 5 with your current listing from B, its somewhat more accurate, if you dont like my suggestion above. --- "They saw the long road, the harder road. The road that would ensure what we had gained in the vicious rebellion would not be squandered... our freedom." - Republic Fleet Admiral Kanth Filmir
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.23 08:42:00 - [729] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 23/11/2006 08:41:49 Originally by: fugazii you provide a service, to inform ppl what is going on in eve, territorial wise. this isnt a thread about what youd like to be happening in eve, its about what IS happening in eve. As i said, if i cant verifiy it myself then i have to base the updates on what people tell me, smacktalking and chest beating only make you less credible, so does playing the "If you dont update the map my way then youre biased" card. Guess what? I dont care if you think im biased, half the alliances in the game accuse me of this at one point or another. Map updating has always and will always work like that. The magic formula for getting the map more accurate? Evemail me your story ingame, leave pointless smacktalk out of it and include links to one or more killboards. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:27:00 - [730] It seems question still valid. How much for unscheduled map update? --------------------

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.23 09:55:00 - [731] Got any stations you dont need? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
thoth foc Destructive Influence	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:17:00 - [732] Originally by: SamuraiJack Added to that the Merc groups operating in those regions. From the forums, Omniscient Order's contract has ended, and given the nature of 0.0, you might want to be explicit as to which groups you mean. (Otherwise the statements tend to be unverifiable) >: )
Smokemon Amarr No Quarter.	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:30:00 - [733] Josh, if you don't mind I have a quick question.... Is it allowable for a single corp that is not affiliated with any alliances to make a claim in space? (following all the rules stated for an alliance, but if it were a single corp instead) Thanks in advance! ---------------------------------------- -Proud member of No Quarter
Jock Feegle Amarr Games And Theory	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:35:00 - [734] Joshua, no pirate infestations on the latest map? Could that really be true? :P
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.23 10:37:00 - [735] Originally by: Jock Feegle Joshua, no pirate infestations on the latest map? Could that really be true? :P No major ones apparently. Originally by: Smokemon Josh, if you don't mind I have a quick question.... Is it allowable for a single corp that is not affiliated with any alliances to make a claim in space? (following all the rules stated for an alliance, but if it were a single corp instead) Thanks in advance! It depends on the type of space, NPC owned 0.0 yes. Non-NPC owned 0.0 no as youd have to claim a/the station and that requires an alliance. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Komolov Gallente REUNI0N Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.23 12:49:00 - [736] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Got any stations you dont need? I don't need station in 1V-. But i have to ask Remedial first. May be he's planning to run brothel here. --------------------
d4ve InterGalactic Corp. Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.11.24 11:25:00 - [737] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Jock Feegle Joshua, no pirate infestations on the latest map? Could that really be true? :P No major ones apparently. i still think its safe to say pure blind should have a pirate marker.. and like i said in my last post in this thread i think its pretty safe to leave it up there too. last word i heard from syndicate it was pretty much a FFA too, cant be sure about that one ofc since i dont live there. ___
Onchas Erivvia Lords of Andromeda SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 15:14:00 - [738] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: SamuraiJack I see no war markings in any of BoB space despite Multiple kills from ASCN members popping BoB. ? There are warzones marked in fountain and paragon soul, both of which are BoB space. dbp Look, I'm not trying to pick on BoB here, but I'm curious as to what the criteria are for changing how space ownership is recorded in the Alliance map. Right now BoB owns less than 33% of the systems in Fountain yet is presented with full ownership. Yes, there are conflict markers. But there's an obvious territorial shift that's gone on there. Can we just get a quick run-down on what are the criteria for establishing ownership shading, conflicted space shading, and conflict warning signs? ------------------------------------------ 'Teh Onchinator' - Lords of Andromeda <LRDS> Director & Personal Assistant to MrsPitman
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.24 16:03:00 - [739] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Right now BoB owns less than 33% of the systems in Fountain yet is presented with full ownership. Yes, there are conflict markers. But there's an obvious territorial shift that's gone on there. Territorial shift to whom? The Huns and Xelas live there under our overall control of the region. They are not their to contest the region as stated by all parties involved (parties not involved have no say in this). The warmarkers are there because celest and ascn have some ganksquads living from the NPC stations on a regular basis. As an overall answer to your question, you need to know the overall picture of each region before posting that you want to contest a region. Hope that makes sense... (bob flamers, stay away thx). dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Onchas Erivvia Lords of Andromeda SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.24 16:29:00 - [740] Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 24/11/2006 16:29:44 Thanks for the try, but no, it doesn't answer my question. The particular situation in Fountain is just an example to frame the question. BoB's particular territorial status is only important because it provides an example of the over simplification of territorial standings. What you have added to the information I'm trying to get at is that political relationships obvious play a role, but that only makes the question of criteria for choosing how territorial status is reflected on the map. As I mentioned, Bob has less than 1/3 of the systems that are controlled under their control, yet they're assigned on the map as controlling. That's surprising to me. I wouldn't have considered a mere 30% of sovereignty as sufficient to assign control over a system, nor would I have considered any political relationships worthy of sublimating the control those other allliances have over that space. It seems easy enough to just have a slightly different shading approach to indicate the shared ownership of the region and the political inter-connection of those Alliances. But the counter-intuitiveness obviously begs the question, what criteria (specifically) determines how control is reflected in that map? Incidently, I'm shocked and surprised (that was sarcasim btw) that anyone would "flame" a post like this -- what a terrible reflection of the quality of conversation (that wasn't)! I hope BoB members (and anyone else) do make an effort to read this post as a simple inquiry into how the map is constructed and not an attempt to lessen or belittle BoB's sovereignty claims over the area. I especially hope that nobody steps in and tries to belittle the Alliances that are living there under BoB's regional control; this seems to be another common stain of commentary that ends up devolving discussion. Basically, keep your egos out of the threat and keep focus on the fact that this is a question about how the map is constructed and not an opportunity to grind your axe or flash your epeen. ------------------------------------------ 'Teh Onchinator' - Lords of Andromeda <LRDS> Director & Personal Assistant to MrsPitman

DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.24 16:48:00 - [741] Edited by: DB Preacher on 24/11/2006 16:50:48 Ah, i see what you are getting at (I think). You think that putting up sovereignty claiming pos in every system in a region should be the only way to get sovereignty? Unfortunately, doing so is essentially useless within the confines of the game. We could sit for weeks placing small pos in every system but there is absolutely no benefit to the alliances to do this, therefore the agreed upon system is one of territorial claims rather than pos claims. Remember this is a game and although the game promotes those corps which work hard, it doesn't promote pointless hard work. For a corp to contest an npc region such as Fountain, it would need to be shown that it was living there, building an industry there through the use of alot of pos that remain in place longer than 5 minutes it takes for us to destroy them and a variety of other reasons. Not sure that answers your question exactly but if you make more pointed questions, or even better take your questions into a different thread and peeps can explain there because this isn't supposed to be a discussion thread. cheers, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:11:00 - [742] Originally by: DB Preacher For a corp to contest an npc region such as Fountain, it would need to be shown that it was living there, building an industry there through the use of alot of pos that remain in place longer than 5 minutes it takes for us to destroy them and a variety of other reasons. My post is not attempt to flame BOB or anyone else but this is an intersting discussion about the control of an NPC region. I would have to disagree that a corp needs build an industry and put pos's up in an npc region to claim it lives there as not all corps operate the same way. Surely there must be another way for a corp with no industry to speak of to claim an NPC region. [ER Public Relations Officer] [Is main activated, check, Post!]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:33:00 - [743] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: DB Preacher For a corp to contest an npc region such as Fountain, it would need to be shown that it was living there, building an industry there through the use of alot of pos that remain in place longer than 5 minutes it takes for us to destroy them and a variety of other reasons. My post is not attempt to flame BOB or anyone else but this is an intersting discussion about the control of an NPC region. I would have to disagree that a corp needs build an industry and put pos's up in an npc region to claim it lives there as not all corps operate the same way. Surely there must be another way for a corp with no industry to speak of to claim an NPC region. No-one has really come up with a good suggestion that actually works. Just before Josh took over as map maker there was masses of arguments about the best way to do it but nothing really seemed feasible or easy to manage. At the end of the day, you have to ask yourself, would any other method of checking actually change the map in any real way? I think the answer is pretty much.. not really. It might end up more confusing with everything contested and no real control being maintained in any of the NPC regions but that's about it. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Choi Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.24 17:39:00 - [744] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti there must be another way for a corp with no industry to speak of to claim an NPC region. The only NPC regions in eve are venal, stain, and curse which IMO should be unclaimable in every system with an npc station in it. If its npc anyone can dock there and use it and even kill eachother if they so wish, so while someone may claim venal, curse, or stain theres no way for them to keep people from being there if said people want to be there. But as per the Fountain example there is only what 5 systems with npc stations in it? Those 5 systems, while bob might camp them 23/7, cant force the capsuleers to undock, and is essentially in that sense unclaimable. The rest of Fountain is fair game though, which can only be claimed by presence of pos, residents paying the landlords dues, and outposts, of which bob has 3(?).
Adame Matriana Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.24 20:08:00 - [745] Originally by: Choi The only NPC regions in eve are venal, stain, and curse which IMO should be unclaimable in every system with an npc station in it. If its npc anyone can dock there and use it and even kill eachother if they so wish, so while someone may claim venal, curse, or stain theres no way for them to keep people from being there if said people want to be there. But as per the Fountain example there is only what 5 systems with npc stations in it? Those 5 systems, while bob might camp them 23/7, cant force the capsuleers to undock, and is essentially in that sense unclaimable. The rest of Fountain is fair game though, which can only be claimed by presence of pos, residents paying the landlords dues, and outposts, of which bob has 3(?). Question from the apparently uninformed. What makes the aforementioned regions NPC regions, and Regions like Great Wildlands and Fountain Non-NPC regions? afaik they are only populated by NPC Stations and no conquerables.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.11.24 21:20:00 - [746] From my point of view, in regions like Venal, Curse you'll have a corp or small alliance that will claim ONE system and you'll see pretty much only them in said system. Once in a while you'll have a fight for the system, one corp / alliance will get the upper hand and leave. So making a map of a region like Curse were you have easily a dozen of different entities is kinda harder than conquerable regions, but when you're on the field you do realise that some corps have an influence zone of ... 1 or 2 systems and it might not be stupid to put them on the map.
Blade Stormbringer Brutor tribe	Posted - 2006.11.25 06:42:00 - [747] Edited by: Blade Stormbringer on 25/11/2006 06:42:57 Originally by: Adame Matriana Question from the apparently uninformed. What makes the aforementioned regions NPC regions, and Regions like Great Wildlands and Fountain Non-NPC regions? afaik they are only populated by NPC Stations and no conquerables. Outposts can be built in those regions. No CCP did'nt put stations there but the players can build them ( like bob and xelas have done in fountain ). The three I mentioned have sovereignty in all their regions systems thus no outposts can be built in them. EDITand this is Chois annoying alt...
Choi Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.25 06:45:00 - [748] Originally by: Amerame it might not be stupid to put them on the map. Maybe have all corps that want to be recognized as living in these regions can say so and josh can make a list off to the side.
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.25 09:37:00 - [749] If I can make a suggestion... For map accuracy, it would make sense to have 'subject' or 'lease' control shown by certain alliances, who still are under overall control of another alliance (perhaps shown with a shade of the main color, and with a dotted line border?). Empire building under a liege might be the future of Eve, after all. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Daroh Solar Dragons Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.25 16:21:00 - [750] The South is in Fire! Lets burn!

Kyguard Fire Mandrill Astrophobics	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:15:00 - [751] Yeah I agree that BoB should be in claim of Fountain, querious and w/e else people are disputing since the tenants aren't contesting the territory but merely living in it. It would be like the Omist renters to replace LV on the map, ain't gonna happen I do agree with Beringe as well though, would be cool to have renting alliances/corps shown up on the map under the owners. === It's great being Amarr, aint it?(tm) [Insert badass sig to match ego here]
DoctorGonzo Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 17:29:00 - [752] Originally by: Kyguard I do agree with Beringe as well though, would be cool to have renting alliances/corps shown up on the map under the owners. Only if both the owners and tenants agree that is what they want. Originally by: Blacklight I think Madeye and CRYVOK have delusions of adequacy!
Adame Matriana Acheron Vanguard Armada The Shadow Ascension	Posted - 2006.11.25 18:31:00 - [753] Originally by: Blade Stormbringer Edited by: Blade Stormbringer on 25/11/2006 06:42:57 Originally by: Adame Matriana Question from the apparently uninformed. What makes the aforementioned regions NPC regions, and Regions like Great Wildlands and Fountain Non-NPC regions? afaik they are only populated by NPC Stations and no conquerables. Outposts can be built in those regions. No CCP did'nt put stations there but the players can build them ( like bob and xelas have done in fountain ). The three I mentioned have sovereignty in all their regions systems thus no outposts can be built in them. EDITand this is Chois annoying alt... I guess that answered it. If I understand correctly though, you cannot put Outposts in the 3 regions you named?
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:29:00 - [754] Edited by: Kaeten on 26/11/2006 11:29:31 I've never posted here but I feel I should now. Hybrid Sydnicate is at war with The Imperial Order Alliance and locals around KBP area the entire time (mostly imp order). We also have a war dec with them so a little marker would be cool. High-Sec/0.0 PvP Recruitment
Kaeten Hybrid Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.26 11:33:00 - [755] Originally by: Christopher Multsanti Originally by: DB Preacher For a corp to contest an npc region such as Fountain, it would need to be shown that it was living there, building an industry there through the use of alot of pos that remain in place longer than 5 minutes it takes for us to destroy them and a variety of other reasons. My post is not attempt to flame BOB or anyone else but this is an intersting discussion about the control of an NPC region. I would have to disagree that a corp needs build an industry and put pos's up in an npc region to claim it lives there as not all corps operate the same way. Surely there must be another way for a corp with no industry to speak of to claim an NPC region. I have to defend BoB here, an alliance that has control over and area can put up POSs without them being taken down, hence BoB. Other alliance, groups trying to do this in fountain are pwned meaning that BoB are the uphold holders of faountain. That goes for any npc region. It's liek high-sec, amarr own amarr area even though I fight in it? Also if you say that npc regions cannot be controlled because other people live there take a look at the whole of eve, people are in everyones terrotory etc. All comes down to, who can live there most comfortably. High-Sec/0.0 PvP Recruitment
Choi Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 14:23:00 - [756] Originally by: Kaeten That goes for any npc region. It's liek high-sec, amarr own amarr area even though I fight in it? yep, and serpentis own core fountain even though bob kill everyone in it that undocks. Originally by: Kaeten Also if you say that npc regions cannot be controlled because other people live there take a look at the whole of eve, people are in everyones terrotory etc. All comes down to, who can live there most comfortably. You cant judge ownership on comfort. Yes ofc there are hostiles in everyones territory, and thats why if they put up pos's there and are fighting for the territory its contested territory, in the case of npc stations you have unkillable pos'es so to speak, anyone can go there and use the stations to their benefit and theres nothing to do to kick them out of your own will. Camping them all day and whatnot like RKK did to the goons and huns just makes them want to leave which they do wether they choose to or not.
olyyy Gallente V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.11.26 15:59:00 - [757] Originally by: Ender Hawks Smash/Roadkill/KoS/F-E VS. E-U/CDC/PURE/Arrow Project/RATEL/every region surrounding Gem/Vale.... E-R would love nothing better then to have F-E ignored and unacknowledged in this conflict as to lessen our effectiveness/achievements versus their coalition. BWF/8mg went from having 60+ pilot gate camps with 10x bubbles on the Oija gate to having 3-10 pilots (non F-E) with all those entering/leaving doing so in shuttles to avoid being slaughtered in anything expensive by none other than F-E Josh, you are biased if you promptly change (or dont change) the map based solely on the propaganda of ctrl-q alliance, err I mean E-U alliance. Current map is fine for me. As for BWF, it sound pretty bothersome to add a warzone marker each time a corp decides to camp a shokepoint. Well that's what I think, I don't really care anyway. To my belief, current warmarker should be: E-U/CDC/PURE/Ratel & allies vs Smash/Roadkill & allies This would be pretty fair. Now I know that everyobdy wanna be on the map (fame 'n stuff?), but well, final decision is up to josh. Men never lie more than before elections, during war and after hunting.
Choi Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.11.26 21:50:00 - [758] Originally by: olyyy Current map is fine for me. fixed and agreed
Johnathan Roark Caldari Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.11.26 22:31:00 - [759] The marker on Esoteria is incorrect. A. refers to Paragon Soul as being contested between BoB and ASCN. I think this should have been placed in Paragon Soul instead of Esoteria. Corporation Management Improvement
Bloedkopp	Posted - 2006.11.29 11:47:00 - [760] With the launch of the 8 new regions, we ( Band of Brothers ) hereby claim all of them. If you have questions about rental fees for living there as our slaves plz convo Molle or DBP !!! Official BOB Diplomat

Leila Kanz Mortis Angelus Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.11.29 12:26:00 - [761] 5) Great Wildlands local vs Veritas immortalis and infod (not infoed) infod currently working with -v- alliance not against. Badaboom,big badabooom!!!
General Novartic Minmatar The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2006.11.29 12:52:00 - [762] Originally by: Bloedkopp With the launch of the 8 new regions, we ( Band of Brothers ) hereby claim all of them. If you have questions about rental fees for living there as our slaves plz convo Molle or DBP !!! Over my dead body you arnt. Think again mate. http://www.n-computers.co.uk/other/eve/evesig.jpg signature removed (max dimensions 120px * 400px) - please email us if you want to know why - Pirlouit([email protected])
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.29 13:08:00 - [763] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 29/11/2006 13:14:12 The new regiona havent been added to the alliance map yet, dont expect it within the next week as i need to redo the entire map for it Also, making claims are fairly pointless as everyone and their mom will be running down there. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Beringe Caldari Raptus Regaliter	Posted - 2006.11.29 21:07:00 - [764] Originally by: DoctorGonzo Originally by: Kyguard I do agree with Beringe as well though, would be cool to have renting alliances/corps shown up on the map under the owners. Only if both the owners and tenants agree that is what they want. Agreed. But since it is a more accurate description, I hardly see anyone being against it. ------------------------------------------- "Sarcasm and irony are not to be used by the uninitiated." --Daitan Beringe, honorary director in charge of bottles--
Faust Revis Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 04:04:00 - [765] so i take it the map will be completely changed to the new map? If so, is that including the fact that the default map completely changed the north, south, east west, directions. basically its backwards.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.30 08:47:00 - [766] Originally by: Faust Revis so i take it the map will be completely changed to the new map? If so, is that including the fact that the default map completely changed the north, south, east west, directions. basically its backwards. The map still looks aligned correctly for me. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.30 12:21:00 - [767] Originally by: Faust Revis so i take it the map will be completely changed to the new map? If so, is that including the fact that the default map completely changed the north, south, east west, directions. basically its backwards. Flatten the map and it will be back to normal. But yes in unflatten mode it's upside down, and so are all system maps. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Bogwad Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.30 16:27:00 - [768] All I see are Eve TV adds.
NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.11.30 17:15:00 - [769] Originally by: Hoshi Originally by: Faust Revis so i take it the map will be completely changed to the new map? If so, is that including the fact that the default map completely changed the north, south, east west, directions. basically its backwards. Flatten the map and it will be back to normal. But yes in unflatten mode it's upside down, and so are all system maps. while keeping left mouse button depressed and moving the mouse over the map u can actually turn ,ap upside and back to front therefore correcting - go on have a play u know u want to
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.01 18:41:00 - [770] Originally by: Leila Kanz 5) Great Wildlands local vs Veritas immortalis and infod (not infoed) infod currently working with -v- alliance not against. We got some corps fighting along side us as well, can we have them on the map? ------------- Minmatar is hard mode___

Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.01 20:22:00 - [771] Originally by: Hudsonn We got some corps fighting along side us as well, can we have them on the map? If they are as cool as INFOD, why not? They still fail to show their coolness tho
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.03 03:27:00 - [772] Originally by: Onchas Erivvia Constructive post I have grappled with alot of this myself. In the end the situation is only complicated in NPC regions where no one has built an outpost. Good examples of this are Venal and Stain (Curse and GW too? I don't know about outposts there or not, I have not kept track). I don't think that there is a way to accurately gauge control over an NPC region when there are no structures to fight over. No one can control docking rights and anyone can live out of the NPC stations barring 23/7 camping. 23/7 camping would establish definite control/ownership but nowhere does anyone do this continuously and nowhere should they do it. Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. To this end, Fountain is actually a pretty good counterpoint. If people want to challenge BoB's control of Fountain they should take one of the outposts there. While giving Bob control of Fountain before they had outposts may have made little or no sense (given that they were rarely there, and no DBP we don't need to have this discussion again), given that they own the most stations in the region, it makes alot of sense to say that they control the region. Stated more generally, claiming a region should only be possible by owning real estate in the region. This criteria will always be met in regions with conquerable stations, but in order to stake your claim to a region without a conquerable station you should be required to build one. Failing that, you actually control little or nothing with respect to that region (you might argue that some regions are unique given the configuration of their stations which make them easy to "actually control" but this is not particularly material to the discussion). The Enemy's Gate is Down
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:16:00 - [773] Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.04 00:31:00 - [774] Edited by: Baun on 04/12/2006 00:44:41 Edited by: Baun on 04/12/2006 00:43:22 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp And there is no reason people shouldn't be forced to give themselves something to lose if they want official recognition. If we can agree on this I am curious as to what Josh's reasons might be for not going in this direction (yet?). A corrolary issue that I did not touch on is whether regions should be shown contested as a whole or in parts. Given that, under the proposed regime, controlling the "NPC" parts of a 0.0 region is granted to the people who own the conquerable stations in the region, it seems like contesting any part of an NPC station region should be akin to contesting the entierty of the region. If you can't rationally award control over uncontrollable statios barring ownership of outposts/conquerables then you shouldn't award control over uncontrollable stations withtout complete control over all available outposts/conquerables. In the case of completely non-NPC regions, it seems more rational to award control of regions based on the location of stations owned. Here, there are no uncontrollable assets awarded to either side and the situation is ground more firmly in reality. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Gyro DuAquin1 Tri Optimum Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.06 09:48:00 - [775] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp NPC region stay uncontrolable(?), the simple fact that ppl can dock all over the place just makes in hard to control. So id guess no control of npc region for anyone.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.06 10:00:00 - [776] Edited by: Baun on 06/12/2006 10:00:32 Originally by: Gyro DuAquin1 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp NPC region stay uncontrolable(?), the simple fact that ppl can dock all over the place just makes in hard to control. So id guess no control of npc region for anyone. The idea is that if you want to award control over regions that have stations in them like this it must be based on something. It probably makes most sense to say that no one controls them (except the specific parts of regions where there are outposts), but my suggestion seems like a happy medium. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.12.06 23:20:00 - [777] You're not supposed to assign sovereignty for the sake of it. Having an outpost does not mean AT ALL that you control anything beside docking right to said outpost. Saying that no one control NPC region is wrong also, if you live there you know that most of the time, the interesting places are controled by a corporation or an alliance, by controling I mean have pretty much the exclusive use of the ressources of the system, it's very rare to have 2 hostile faction who use the same system for an extended period of time, so de facto it's possible to determine the sovereignty of systems in NPC space the trouble is that you need to have an extensive knowledge of the area for 1 system can be controled by a faction and 1 or 2 jump away it's being controled by a completely different faction.
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.07 00:49:00 - [778] Edited by: Baun on 07/12/2006 00:49:39 Originally by: Amerame it's very rare to have 2 hostile faction who use the same system for an extended period of time, so de facto it's possible to determine the sovereignty of systems in NPC space the trouble is that you need to have an extensive knowledge of the area for 1 system can be controled by a faction and 1 or 2 jump away it's being controled by a completely different faction. Unless you actually want to assign sovereign control over uncontrollable assets on a system by system basis, this makes no sense. Of course, it may make no sense to assign sovereignty on a system by system basis as you suggest anyway. Fountain has two factions that use the region and are hostile to each other. Venal has a fair number of hostiles. Curse has two large warring factions moving through all the time. I don't know much about Stain but I cannot imagine it is particularly well settled. GW certainly isn't calm. Do you want the mapmaker to inspect who "lives" in each system or constellation and put them on the map? Living in NPC stations has nothing to do with control. The reason it might be sensible to go with an "outpost or not sovereignty" test is that whoever is the most powerful entity in the region, barring an agreement not to take stations, will control the outpost(s). You can "live" in NPC stations forever but if you don't take the outpost from the people who control it then you can't really say you own the region. All we need is some standard that has a rational connection to reality. It is no more realistic to assign control of an entire NPC region to absentee owners (which is bassically what BoB had pre-outposts in Fountain) than it does to scrutinize system by system living arragnements which have absolutely no connection to who controls what. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:07:00 - [779] Edited by: Silvitni on 08/12/2006 23:09:41 Hi josh Here is some info for the next map. E-U does not claim the lower geminate/ips anymore. The constellation of IPS has been sold to the alliance Storm Armada, ticker: ESA. This means, that ESA controls both stations in IPS constellation. Regarding E-R, we are on the road again and gonna have fun.
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:27:00 - [780] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp actually there are some regions, where all systems in the region are claimed by the NPCs so you can't build an outpost even if you wanted to. ________ been there, done that, got the t-shirt

Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.08 23:41:00 - [781] Originally by: Turkantho Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Baun Ultimately I think the best way to deal with this is to refuse to give ownership of an NPC region to anyone who does not choose to build outposts there. Sounds reasonable to me. It might actually promote a few more outposts and then peeps can properly see who controls the systems. dbp actually there are some regions, where all systems in the region are claimed by the NPCs so you can't build an outpost even if you wanted to. Then don't assign claims to those. The Enemy's Gate is Down
SolApathy Guardians of Hell's Gate	Posted - 2006.12.09 04:07:00 - [782] if u dont assign claims how can u have territorial disputes, and outposts dont mean they own the region, take pureblind as an example ISS have 2 outposts yet the region is mostly run by Ekliptika and few other alliances its been a while since ive been up there. Sol. Want to join GARDS - Click Me -
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 06:31:00 - [783] Originally by: SolApathy if u dont assign claims how can u have territorial disputes, and outposts dont mean they own the region, take pureblind as an example ISS have 2 outposts yet the region is mostly run by Ekliptika and few other alliances its been a while since ive been up there. Sol. If you assign claims without control what do claims mean? The whole point of this is to make the map more meaningful in NPC regions. To require no substantive control of a region before assigning a claim devalues the importance of all claims. Outposts wouldn't indicate control if the alliance controlling the outpost disclaimed control. This, for example, would be true of all ISS outposts. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Turkantho Asgard Schiffswerften Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2006.12.09 09:00:00 - [784] Originally by: Baun Then don't assign claims to those. would be a bit unfair imho ________ been there, done that, got the t-shirt
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.09 12:34:00 - [785] Control is not about how can dock but who can use the space for their day to day activities like npcing, mining etc. When I lived curse there where 3-4 factions all hostile to each other and all claiming different parts of curse. While we where all shooting each other we also very much respected each others claims. If I npced in our part of curse I knew I would be mostly safe, sure there where the occasional gank squads but all space have those, doesn't matter if there are outposts there or not. But I never went to npc in any part outside of ours because I knew doing so would be mostly suicide. What if people can dock in your space? What does that give them? Nothing, they would just be camped inside. Sure they can log off and return after the owners have moved on to do other things. But they could just easily go to a safe and log there and it would make no practical difference. It might be harder to stake claim for npc space but to categorically deny claims of npc space just because it's not possible to make that claim visible on the ingame map is ridiculous. Josh needs to talk to the people involved in any conflict to get a clear picture who claims what, nothing special about npc space here. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
fisho Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2006.12.09 17:20:00 - [786] Any chance of a key to the names of the alliances, I don't recognise alot (mostly in the north).
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.09 18:12:00 - [787] Originally by: fisho Any chance of a key to the names of the alliances, I don't recognise alot (mostly in the north). Sounds reasonable, i've got quite a but of space left on the side on the kali map. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 19:31:00 - [788] Edited by: Baun on 09/12/2006 19:35:09 Edited by: Baun on 09/12/2006 19:31:36 Originally by: Hoshi Control is not about how can dock but who can use the space for their day to day activities like npcing, mining etc. I disagree. You cannot permanently stop those activties without controlling docking rights so in the end you are trying to gauge something that is nebulous. If the map is to be consistent and objective and consistently meaningful it needs to rely on a consistent and objective standard NOT something vague. It might be fun to assign claims in those regions, but no one really knows what they mean and they do not represent useful information. If there is another standard we can use that would allow more claims but is consistent I am all ears. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Wraithstorm Elite Storm Enterprises Storm Armada	Posted - 2006.12.09 20:08:00 - [789] Storm Armada [ESA] would like to lay claim to the IPS Constellation. We have the 2 Outposts firmly under our control as well as the sorrounding systems within the Constellation. Thanks Joshua
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2006.12.09 21:05:00 - [790] Originally by: Baun If the map is to be consistent and objective and consistently meaningful it needs to rely on a consistent and objective standard NOT something vague. The map is supposed to be first and foremost informative, not an e-peen competition of who's going to splash the most color on it, again the situation in NPC region is much more complicated than in conquerable space : either you decide to do it correctly and go into the details of who's controling what or we decide to leave all the NPC region neutral, but relating the sovereignty of NPC regions to who's controling an outpost somewhere are is a meaningless.

Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.09 21:25:00 - [791] Originally by: Amerame Originally by: Baun If the map is to be consistent and objective and consistently meaningful it needs to rely on a consistent and objective standard NOT something vague. The map is supposed to be first and foremost informative, not an e-peen competition of who's going to splash the most color on it, again the situation in NPC region is much more complicated than in conquerable space : either you decide to do it correctly and go into the details of who's controling what or we decide to leave all the NPC region neutral, but relating the sovereignty of NPC regions to who's controling an outpost somewhere are is a meaningless. You are way offbase if you think I am trying to promote a "e-peen competition". I am indeed trying to do the exact opposite. Where you can be awarded "control" over an NPC region based on nothing more than how good your forum PR is and how succesful you are at making other people believe you have control without any actual control within game mechanics an "e-peen" contest emerges. Creating an objective standard is the best way to avoid this. I think that previous heated contests over NPC regions clearly demonstrate just how right I am. Although there were no outposts then, there was alot of consternation at the apparent randomness with which NPC region control changed sides (I am sure DBP remembers this even if he doesn't agree with my characterization). Everyside would be better off if there was a predictable measure AND the people viewing the map would be better off because they would have some notion of what the map actually represents. Requiring the building of outposts where possible makes perfect sense. If you want to be recognized as in control you should be required to give yourself something you can control. It is certainly not perfect, but I don't see too many people debating BoB's control over Delve based solely on Outposts/conquerables when there are NPC stations in the region. If you can present any other objective standard that would simultaneously allow one to measure some aspect of real control and give the viewers of the map a clear idea of what control in those regions actually represents I am absolutely all ears. As far as I can tell, however, no one has suggested anything better than I have. Everyone appeals to the notion that control over the outpost is "meaningless." But as per the Delve example that is clearly not the case. Furthermore, actual control over something is more meaningful than no control over anything and the map being decided mostly by who *****es the loudest. I am really eager to see some other constructive suggestions here instead of more senseless appeals to the virtues of vagueness. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Gazmus Caldari Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.10 11:17:00 - [792] E-U no longer lay claim to ips. Cheers Gaz
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.10 12:33:00 - [793] BoB are now officially contesting Feythabolis. We are currently living inside AZN and it has been a warzone for a week and half. We have pos down in AZN, C9N and 0OYZ. At this time we have control of the 0OYZ station and system although sovereignty does not kick in for 5 days. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:08:00 - [794] Updated version is online, modified for Kali and at a higher resolution to accommodate the changes in territorial claims, namely the rise of less regional claims and more constellation claims. Feel free to shout of if missed anything, which I'm sure i did. I blame Bob, IAC and EveTV for distracting me. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Porter Hadlend Gallente Righteous-Indignation Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:14:00 - [795] I'm getting a 404 on the map atm.. will probably be fixed soon I assume. --------------
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.10 23:20:00 - [796] Gah broken for me as well now, it worked for a few minutes. Ill contact Chribba in the morning, really need to get to bed now. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
arkarsk Provenance.	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:07:00 - [797] Originally by: Abdalion + 2006 April Fools Day Map This link seems to work for the latest map. also send me isk ----------------- http://www.eve-provenance.com

Chribba Otherworld Enterprises Otherworld Empire	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:36:00 - [798] Edited by: Chribba on 11/12/2006 08:42:15 Am troubleshooting the problem, will let you know once I've fixed it. /Sorted. The file was there but was flagged as removed in the database, hence why you would receive 404 on one link but not the other. The reason for the flag was that Joshua's account on EVE-Files is a bit special, it does not make database entries like other files do. Since you would lose all comments and hits count every time he updated the map. But it seems Joshua deleted(?) the map before the last update hence flagging it as removed, and when he then updated the file it would never mark the new file as active. Sorry for the trouble, I will look into modifying the code so that won't happen again hopefully. /c EVE-Files \| EVE-Search \| Monitor this Thread

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 08:52:00 - [799] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 11/12/2006 08:52:16 It wouldnt upload at all (Just displayed a much older version of map) so i figured deleting the map might work. It did, for <5 minutes Then it went 404 on me. It works now though so thanks Chrubby ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 10:39:00 - [800] Edited by: DB Preacher on 11/12/2006 10:41:37 Some incorrect information in the map. We are contesting Feth, not esoteria. We haven't touched any station in esoteria nor have we laid down pos there. Our reasons for contesting Feth are as above here. Furthermore, BoB believes the following information is innacurate: Fountain Core appears to be contested but ASCN nor Insurgency have laid down any industrial pos or outposts. They haven't been able to touch any of our pos or outposts in the area. As such, BoB believes this should be a warzone until they actually try and put up their own or at least manage to kill some of ours. Having a roaming Dread squad that sticks a couple of BoB pos into reinforced then is unable to finish the job doesn't achieve anything. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:28:00 - [801] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 11/12/2006 11:28:58 Originally by: DB Preacher We are contesting Feth, not esoteria. We haven't touched any station in esoteria nor have we laid down pos there. Estoria was marked constested due to the layout of bobs current assaults which effectivly cut off travel routes between Feyth and Estoria. But since i doubt ASCN has any objections itll be modified in the next update. Originally by: DB Preacher Fountain Core appears to be contested but ASCN nor Insurgency have laid down any industrial pos or outposts. They haven't been able to touch any of our pos or outposts in the area. Which is why their control is limited to systems with NPC stations. I didnt see any resistance against Celes, ASCN and other neutrals running around in the core. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.11 11:44:00 - [802] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Estoria was marked constested due to the layout of bobs current assaults which effectivly cut off travel routes between Feyth and Estoria. But since i doubt ASCN has any objections itll be modified in the next update. I was actually slightly incorrect in my own information. We have 1 pos in C9N. However, at this moment in time, we are not really contesting that region. There was a brief skirmish last night but I'd even be pushed to say it was a warzone there. If we take any stations in Esoteria, I'll repost here again. Fair point on the travel routes, I'll leave it up to you with what you want to do about it. Only thing I would add there is that with us being based inside AZN, we are not really cutting off travel per se through esoteria and it is pretty much impossible to stop ships nipping in and out from there without 23/7 bubble camps (which we aren't using). Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Which is why their control is limited to systems with NPC stations. I didnt see any resistance against Celes, ASCN and other neutrals running around in the core. Fair point, leave the core as contested then. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Beyond Horizon UA Industry Red Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:07:00 - [803] Edited by: Beyond Horizon on 11/12/2006 14:20:32 - BH
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 14:15:00 - [804] Originally by: Beyond Horizon I'm sorry, but RA has nothing to do with claiming JLO... Joshua, please check the claim map and correct the mistake. Go talk to the goonies, they wanted it marked as RA space. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Great Guardian Minmatar Resurrection	Posted - 2006.12.11 15:05:00 - [805] Edited by: Great Guardian on 11/12/2006 15:05:19 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Which is why their control is limited to systems with NPC stations. I didnt see any resistance against Celes, ASCN and other neutrals running around in the core. Fair point, leave the core as contested then. dbp So no resistance against group A in area B? How can area B be contested when there is no resistance? " I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 16:30:00 - [806] Originally by: Great Guardian Edited by: Great Guardian on 11/12/2006 15:05:19 Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Which is why their control is limited to systems with NPC stations. I didnt see any resistance against Celes, ASCN and other neutrals running around in the core. Fair point, leave the core as contested then. dbp So no resistance against group A in area B? How can area B be contested when there is no resistance? Because Group A isn't in control, theyre simply showing Group B has no control either. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Great Guardian Minmatar Resurrection	Posted - 2006.12.11 17:45:00 - [807] Edited by: Great Guardian on 11/12/2006 17:45:32 Joshua thanks for fast answer, however based on my previous experience with your great work (that I never commented before) I have gotten impression that: If group A faces no resistance in area B, then that automatically implies that group A has control of area B. /cheers GG " I've seen things you people wouldn't believe. Hah! Attack ships on fire, off the shoulder of Orion. I watched C-beams, glitter in the dark near the Tannhauser gate. All those moments.... will
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.11 19:05:00 - [808] I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:52:00 - [809] Originally by: spiralJunkie I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened Hmmm I like that idea. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Jesona Rove	Posted - 2006.12.11 21:58:00 - [810] The new alliance map, now with 50% MORE LINES!!

Ron Simon Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.11 22:54:00 - [811] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened Hmmm I like that idea. Instead of insulting ASCN by puting there loss on the map why don't you just put a titan icon over the terratory of alliances that are confirmed to have one.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.11 23:46:00 - [812] Originally by: Ron Simon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened Hmmm I like that idea. Instead of insulting ASCN by puting there loss on the map why don't you just put a titan icon over the terratory of alliances that are confirmed to have one. A titan getting killed would technically be more epic then one being built. However i will ponder some more about it while i gaze to the stars tonight. Maybe ill ask ASCN if they mind it being marked. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Nifel Caldari Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.12 01:48:00 - [813] Originally by: Ron Simon Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: spiralJunkie I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened Hmmm I like that idea. Instead of insulting ASCN by puting there loss on the map why don't you just put a titan icon over the terratory of alliances that are confirmed to have one. Maybe we shouldn't have warzones and territorial contests either? You know, people live there, and they might get insulted the map shows the rest of the EVE world how much they're getting their arses handed to them! "When I die I want to die peacefully in my sleep like my grandpa. Not yelling and screaming like the passengers in his car." RKK Ranking: Sama
Nez Perces Amarr Black Spot.	Posted - 2006.12.12 04:39:00 - [814] Originally by: Nifel Maybe we shouldn't have warzones and territorial contests either? You know, people live there, and they might get insulted the map shows the rest of the EVE world how much they're getting their arses handed to them! for real mate... this game should also be re-named Bear-online, so nobody gets the wrong idea before they start playing. There is no pew pew in EVE, the new expansion wasn't code-named Kali after the Hindu goddess of war, it was really code-named Kernite
Linavin Mercurialis Inc. Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.12 05:23:00 - [815] For reference IAC is no longer hostile to Malestrom or Chimp, both entities are NAPed and we are now only hostile to Myriad in the region. I wouldn't consider us involved in the Immensea warzome either but that call would be up to the diplomats, Kaylana Syi and Bacilius. (I don't believe they are officially our diplomats yet, but you should contact them none the less) --- Quote: "Seleene is Primary." "She isn't here." "She's still primary."
FireFoxx80 Caldari E X O D U S Imperial Republic Of the North	Posted - 2006.12.12 11:57:00 - [816] OMG. That's a map and a half! Too big for my monitor :( What I do the rest of the time - Vote for a Jita bypass!
Audrea Momentum.	Posted - 2006.12.12 12:38:00 - [817] Originally by: spiralJunkie I would like to suggest a small titan shaped icon where the first one went down, as a reminder of what happened I think many players would like that (regardless of what ASCN thinks). However, only if CCP stick to their word, and make Titan wreck permanent, otherwise its just useless spam on the map.. Maybe even mark them both, after all, the entities who have Titans, control large chunks of 0.0 space, so placing small Titan icon shouldnt clutter the map too much. PS: What is a Titan icon anyway? lol.. Its great being a Gallente blasterpilot, aint it? Save Tranquility!
Smagd Encina Technologies Namtz'aar k'in	Posted - 2006.12.12 13:02:00 - [818] Haven't really said it here yet, so here it is: Wonderful work. Nice map, and putting up with all the bickering must be painful at times. I also like the new format. Making a mental note here to send a couple ISK later. -- Thukkers do
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.12 13:11:00 - [819] Originally by: Audrea PS: What is a Titan icon anyway? lol.. I was thinking an avatar shot from the side, reduced to one color and snapped in half. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
spiralJunkie Minmatar EveTV	Posted - 2006.12.12 14:13:00 - [820] the problem with including anyone who has it is that it's not map-oriented. BoB have one, LV have one, but where do you put it on the map without being misleading? Whereas one going down is marked in a certain place. Here lays the final resting place of a titan. _ Eeeeeeeeeeh, I don't think Titans are particularly Cost Effective - Goonswarm

Shira d'Radonis Amarr Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.12.12 18:00:00 - [821] I would say that putting an icon of where the Titan was destroyed would be a good idea... however, I think it should be a "neutral" icon. In other words... nothing that pokes fun at ASCN or congratulates BoB... just something simple and dignified that represents the occurence of an important event. Whether somebody looks at the map and sees that icon as a victory or a tragedy should be up to the viewer. Personally, I think it might be interesting to mark other such events as well if anybody can think of any... points of decisive battles that reshaped the EVE atlas or other kinds of events that were unique in nature. ----------------------------------------------- ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö "Our histories, one day, will absolve me..." - Shira d'Radonis
Kuang V I R I I Center for Disease Creation	Posted - 2006.12.13 02:28:00 - [822] If you do it for the titan ... why not the first dread ( was a bid deal when that happened ) ... Personally don't care either way
Packtu'sa Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 07:32:00 - [823] How about the IAC vs ISS conflict in Catch? I'd say it goes under "Warzones" as there isn't really any contested space but there certainly is a conflict. Packtu'sa Founder/CEO Nabaal Construction and Industrials Corp [NCIC]
Edgars Sults LFC Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.12.13 08:18:00 - [824] Could you please get rid of the background grid? It's useless and spoils the look of the map.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 08:55:00 - [825] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 13/12/2006 08:57:18 Originally by: Kuang If you do it for the titan ... why not the first dread ( was a bid deal when that happened ) ... Personally don't care either way Dreads only cost ~2 bill and every half useful level 4 mission runner can afford/pilot one; Hardly worth mentioning. ASCN spend 90 bill to build their titan and theyre uber + rare. Originally by: Edgars Sults Could you please get rid of the background grid? It's useless and spoils the look of the map. I assume you mean the grid? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.13 10:15:00 - [826] Originally by: Shira d'Radonis I would say that putting an icon of where the Titan was destroyed would be a good idea... however, I think it should be a "neutral" icon. In other words... nothing that pokes fun at ASCN or congratulates BoB... just something simple and dignified that represents the occurence of an important event. Whether somebody looks at the map and sees that icon as a victory or a tragedy should be up to the viewer. Personally, I think it might be interesting to mark other such events as well if anybody can think of any... points of decisive battles that reshaped the EVE atlas or other kinds of events that were unique in nature. I don't think history will remember ASCNs titan loss as anything other than misfortune. And the important thing in remembering their titan loss is remembering that they had a titan, and they were the first ones to build one. Something else perhaps worth considering is marking the first player built outpost on the map.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 11:50:00 - [827] Originally by: Stamm Something else perhaps worth considering is marking the first player built outpost on the map. I like that idea as well, though i cant say i remember which one it was ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Hast Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 11:55:00 - [828] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Stamm Something else perhaps worth considering is marking the first player built outpost on the map. I like that idea as well, though i cant say i remember which one it was AZN I believe.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:34:00 - [829] Edited by: SamuraiJack on 13/12/2006 12:34:29 Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Stamm Something else perhaps worth considering is marking the first player built outpost on the map. I like that idea as well, though i cant say i remember which one it was It was 5P-AIP. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 12:38:00 - [830] Originally by: SamuraiJack Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Stamm Something else perhaps worth considering is marking the first player built outpost on the map. I like that idea as well, though i cant say i remember which one it was It was 5P-AIP. You wouldnt happen to have the exact date around would you? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.13 13:25:00 - [831] Not to suggest too much work for you, Josh, but perhaps an historical map / overlay could be used to save it cluttering the map? Sig nerfz0rd. Remember kids, it's 400x120 and less than 24,000 bytes (not kbytes) -Conuion Meow I hate purple :(
Shira d'Radonis Amarr Minmatar United Freedom Front Electus Matari	Posted - 2006.12.13 16:17:00 - [832] I've been contemplating the possibility of doing a sort of "Historical Atlas of New Eden" set of historical maps that would cover the rise and fall of particular player alliances or cover specific wars between bigger alliances, etc. The hard part for such a thing though would be not the making of the map itself but rather the research involved. Aside from scouring the forums and reviewing the older maps, I'd probably have to interview a number of players who helped make that history to make sure to get the details right. At the very least, it's a possibility. But such maps would be interesting because they would cover a time span and show clearly an alliance's starting point and expansion as well as eventual decline and collapse... could also show the movements of groups working against it as well as show major battles.. lots of interesting things that could be done. ----------------------------------------------- ôàquod ad ius naturale attinet, omnes homines aequales suntö "Our histories, one day, will absolve me..." - Shira d'Radonis
TARREX Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.13 17:31:00 - [833] curse : Corelum Ipod & Nuts vs TCF the Corelum are always in OSY-UD and just docking , you make a war like that ? Curse is no a warzone, it's roamingzone for TCF is not a flam just the true.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 17:45:00 - [834] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain You wouldnt happen to have the exact date around would you? I'll see if i can dig up dates and where etc for ASCN outposts. I think, but dont quote me, that we had first research outpost too... that was GHZ. MC was first to all four IIRC? SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 19:59:00 - [835] 5P-AIP Factory Outpost - 20th august 107 (2005) AZN-D2 Refinary Outpost - 15th October 107 (2005) GHZ-SJ Research Station - 18th feb 108 (2006) If anyone has earlier dates then please update Joshua but am certain 5P is the first outpost in game. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
Coasterbrian Celestial Fleet Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:33:00 - [836] 5P- is a refinery, you nublar. I can't remember who had the first factory outpost (I don't think it was us), but the first admin was EC as I recall. ---------- I say what I mean, but I don't always mean what I say.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.13 21:42:00 - [837] Originally by: TARREX curse : Corelum Ipod & Nuts vs TCF the Corelum are always in OSY-UD and just docking , you make a war like that ? Curse is no a warzone, it's roamingzone for TCF is not a flam just the true. We make war by blowing up 6.365.054.524 Isk worth of ships (Not counting equipment) and running away when you guys show up with 2/3/4 times our numbers. Originally by: SamuraiJack 5P-AIP Factory Outpost - 20th august 107 (2005) AZN-D2 Refinary Outpost - 15th October 107 (2005) GHZ-SJ Research Station - 18th feb 108 (2006) If anyone has earlier dates then please update Joshua but am certain 5P is the first outpost in game. Thanks. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Layla Currie Followers Of Darkness	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:16:00 - [838] umm ipod and fuzzy nuts hardly hold space in curse. Docking up the minute a hostile enters local is not holding space it's cowering in it.
SamuraiJack Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.13 23:43:00 - [839] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: SamuraiJack 5P-AIP Factory Outpost - 20th august 107 (2005) AZN-D2 Refinary Outpost - 15th October 107 (2005) GHZ-SJ Research Station - 18th feb 108 (2006) If anyone has earlier dates then please update Joshua but am certain 5P is the first outpost in game. Thanks. 5P is a Refinary not a Factory. I'll try to figure out when our first factory went up. As Coaster says its more than likely first Factory outpost was by someone else. Wonder if CCP could do a DB trawl and dig out any other 1sts? Would make for some interest in an EVE article for the magazine. SJ. ASCN HC Community Manager ASCN Diplomat CLS Director =-
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.14 10:36:00 - [840] The last remaining ASCN corp, ST-K, in fountain have pulled out after failing to achieve anything against BoB. Only Celest remains contesting Fountain Core. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto

MoLeH Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2006.12.14 11:29:00 - [841] Not sure if anyone has allready pointed this out but i dont beleave Insurgancy & Ascendant frontier are fighting Xelas & The Horde in Immensea. -------------------------------------- http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v242/mole12/Mole-sig.jpg Please ensure your signature is 24,000 bytes or less - Udat
Leuthispar Celestial Horizon Corp. Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.14 12:00:00 - [842] Originally by: MoLeH Not sure if anyone has allready pointed this out but i dont beleave Insurgancy & Ascendant frontier are fighting Xelas & The Horde in Immensea. LOLZOR yea
Raucha A.W.M	Posted - 2006.12.14 17:24:00 - [843] As a note, you appear to have not included the MRC constellation of Cache (the one that connects to VU and 6HL8) in RA's claim. It's most likely a graphical error, since RA does indeed claim that constellation and are active in it.
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.14 19:44:00 - [844] dont know if this has been said yet but, Euphoria Unleashed has fled from BWF and 8MG in geminate. giving thier stations to Storm Armada. check the map, since you consider all F-E liars. Guess you were wrong after all Thanks
Archonon Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.15 00:57:00 - [845] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: TARREX curse : Corelum Ipod & Nuts vs TCF the Corelum are always in OSY-UD and just docking , you make a war like that ? Curse is no a warzone, it's roamingzone for TCF is not a flam just the true. We make war by blowing up 6.365.054.524 Isk worth of ships (Not counting equipment) and running away when you guys show up with 2/3/4 times our numbers. Strange to see "nuts" where we're living, like u said we're largely more and controlling more systems than every factions in this region, i could ask a tcf claim but npc region are so hard to control that it wouldn't be honest. My opinon is that a contested region with warzone maker will be fine, and i want to precise that ur guys are runing even if i'm alone in OSY (fraps m8). Thx in advance _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.15 06:12:00 - [846] Edited by: Emrod on 15/12/2006 06:15:20 Originally by: Layla Currie umm ipod and fuzzy nuts hardly hold space in curse. Docking up the minute a hostile enters local is not holding space it's cowering in it. Its the map forum here, if you want to flamme us, just do it ingame ,Thx
FFGR Maza Nostra Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.15 13:52:00 - [847] Originally by: fugazii dont know if this has been said yet but, Euphoria Unleashed has fled from BWF and 8MG in geminate. giving thier stations to Storm Armada. check the map, since you consider all F-E liars. Guess you were wrong after all Thanks It's been mentioned about 5 times till now and the map ownership has been updated to reflect that (you can notice that E-U alliance is not on the map for atleast 4 days now) Warzone marker needs an update though _______ Hope is the first step on the road to disappointment
Xi Dioxyde Seraphin Technologies Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.16 00:08:00 - [848] Originally by: Hudsonn GreatWildlands is still -V-. There's a few IMP/TNT around but not enough to show contested. Yes GW is back in V control. Less and less Hostiles shown in Local. The only Signal from IMP is the Smack in Local.
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.16 01:31:00 - [849] Edited by: Hudsonn on 16/12/2006 01:33:46 Originally by: Xi Dioxyde Originally by: Hudsonn GreatWildlands is still IMP/TNT. There's a few V around but not enough to show contested. Yes GW is back in IMP control. Less and less Hostiles shown in Local. The only Signal from V is the Smack in Local. -V- are no where near in control, true. It's 50/50 if anything. m-m is -V- and e02 is IMP.
Veritas Information Veritas Immortalis Logistic Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.16 01:34:00 - [850] -V- does not claim GW, it remains contested for now. My friend above got a little ahead of himself it seems... Sincerly, -V- Info

Silvitni Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2006.12.16 02:51:00 - [851] Edited by: Silvitni on 16/12/2006 02:58:00 Hi Josh Please remove E-U as fighting parties in Geminate. As said earlier ESA own¦s IPS constellation. Regarding K25, Roadkill and E-U made a deal. E-U was against some good defending and had finally to quit their objectives. Grats to Roadkill for nice fights. Roadkill bought E-U posses in K25. Regarding F-E; just smacktalkers with not objective and dont deserve a mark on a map. Again, tnx Roadkill for good fights. And josh please delete E-U from Geminate, E-U is on a roadtrip. cheers Silvitni
Choi Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2006.12.16 04:05:00 - [852] Originally by: Silvitni Regarding F-E; just smacktalkers with not objective and dont deserve a mark on a map. cheers Silvitni I was there, you were there. We know what happened. Tell people what you want if it helps you to sleep at night. Everyone else, feel free to research killboards and whatnot on your own.
Moonbeam Stalker	Posted - 2006.12.16 04:32:00 - [853] i thought this wasn't a chat channel. but i guess it is now. i'll join in on the fun. smack smack smack
Evil Thug Rage and Terror Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.17 14:16:00 - [854] aAa captured first station in impass. More will follow. Please, mark entire region as contested.
Yazoul Samaiel Caldari Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.18 06:08:00 - [855] IMMENSEA has a problem , it has C and 7 . 7 Is Insurgance and CELES so not related at all "Lord Samaiel, Rise " BNC Vs CELES Video
Grissem Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:39:00 - [856] Josh, Nicely done with the new map - really like it Bigger is Better as they say I think it's fair to say a vast portion of the community appreciate your efforts - especially those of us stuck at work with only the forums to get our daily fix! --------- ROA till i die.......or they find someone better
Sir Howard Gallente Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.18 15:56:00 - [857] Originally by: Yazoul Samaiel IMMENSEA has a problem , it has C and 7 . 7 Is Insurgance and CELES so not related at all I beleive the 7 in Immensea is actually supposed to be an 8. "This is a bad idea wrapped in a horrible plan and shipped in a retarded box"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.19 21:25:00 - [858] Josh, have a look at this: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=446943 We haven't actually gone for alot of pos there yet though so dunno if you even want to mark it up.
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.20 10:55:00 - [859] Please mark IAC space as "contested". Involved parties are: ISS, MC, LV, FIX, UK & Veto vs. IAC, Goons, TCF, Imperium, Red Skull, SoD, RA As of now: All F4R POS are in reinforced and being replaced with allied POS as they drop. Nine POS in JBY are in reinforced. G-7 has lots of people looking at it. Everyone on both sides needs sleep. - Fight the Darkness!
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.20 11:42:00 - [860] Can i get a capital ship count as well? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.20 13:37:00 - [861] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Can i get a capital ship count as well? Total cap ship count right now is about thirty I think. Update - Two more F4R POS destroyed and replaced with ISS towers. ISS should have Sov over the system within the next 48 hours. - Fight the Darkness!
JForce N.W.A	Posted - 2006.12.21 04:01:00 - [862] Where is the base map taken from? Is it a screenshot of the in-game one?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.12.21 08:41:00 - [863] Originally by: JForce Where is the base map taken from? Is it a screenshot of the in-game one? Yup, though slightly modified in photoshop. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Seleene Body Count Inc. Mercenary Coalition	Posted - 2006.12.21 17:11:00 - [864] The last IAC tower has been destroyed in F4R. Sov will belong to ISS tommorow. A foothold POS has been anchored in JBY. Strikes have begun on the POS network in G-7. Over the past five days, nine POS have been destroyed and nine more are in reinforced. The war continues. - Fight the Darkness!
DubanFP Caldari Four Rings Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.22 00:13:00 - [865] Edited by: DubanFP on 22/12/2006 00:16:09 In order of Importaince some changes for Immensea are. The biggest error that really needs to be changed is the fact that the contested area of Immensea is falsely labeled 7 instead of 8. United Confederation of Corporations (UCC) now lives with Myriad in the contested area. Chimera Pact "Chimp" is pretty much dead and should be replaced by UCC. The contested area in immensea falls short of Z-H2MA and E8-YS9, while the territory between the 3 outposts "Z-H2MA, E8-YS9, and 20-EEW" is the main hotspot. __________________________ Why babelfish is bad mmm k "which the night do not expect that it calls the primary education before becoming deformed inside"
Adrianus Ars Caelestis Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.22 17:46:00 - [866] "Esoteria" is misspelled in in the "contested regions" section.
Jtbenns Gallente QUANT Corp.	Posted - 2006.12.22 22:35:00 - [867] great wildlands locals that are non alliance are not with imp, they attack imp... the locals side with incod mostly except for foundation, and i have no idea about goon there...
Kal'Kalagan Takahashi Syndicate Veritas Immortalis	Posted - 2006.12.23 01:43:00 - [868] Would be a nice idea if the 1st alliances to settle the new regions get to name them properly. Those alphanumerical names are bad enough for systems but for regions they are doing my head in. Would have to be sensible names ofc Your sig is too big, maximum allowed size is 24000 bytes (400x120 pixels). - Devil ([email protected])
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 06:19:00 - [869] Originally by: Jtbenns great wildlands locals that are non alliance are not with imp, they attack imp... the locals side with incod mostly except for foundation, and i have no idea about goon there... im not quite sure what a GW Local really is tho there arent any? theres some infod, some v, some imp..... who are the locals? TNT and Foundation are with IMP.. so... who.. are the locals? I dont see neutrals fighting with anyone, really.. if neutrals is what you mean by locals? ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 12:29:00 - [870] Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Would have to be sensible names ofc LOL, yeah right. OUT WITH: JK-FIX IN WITH: QUERIOUS great and sensible :/ Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.

Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2006.12.23 15:31:00 - [871] Originally by: Dianabolic Originally by: Kal'Kalagan Would have to be sensible names ofc LOL, yeah right. OUT WITH: JK-FIX IN WITH: QUERIOUS great and sensible :/ The owners couldn't even spell it right for a year ------ Your signature is too large. Please see the Forum Rules for the limits - Serathu ([email protected])
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.23 16:21:00 - [872] We have complete control of C9N in Esoteria and have pos up in BY-. We wish Esoteria to be marked as contested. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.23 23:13:00 - [873] Originally by: Veritas Information -V- does not claim GW, it remains contested for now. My friend above got a little ahead of himself it seems... Sincerly, -V- Info Whatever happened to posting with your MAIN? ************ Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance Former Curse Alliance Member
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.12.24 13:26:00 - [874] I thought the map was only meant to show the main forces in the area? Should be IMP Vs -V-, none of this "local" stuff
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2006.12.24 19:18:00 - [875] Infinitus Odium is removing POS's in the Great Wildlands and gives IMP a run for its money. INFOD should be considered a major force in the Great Wildlands, however im not sure if we should consider IMP a "force" at all. headless chicken I would call it.
BlackHorizon Caldari Umbra Congregatio Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2006.12.25 09:34:00 - [876] Since ISS is now a political entity, the map should reflect the systems they claim sovereignty and "control".
Dianabolic Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.25 10:34:00 - [877] Originally by: BlackHorizon Since ISS is now a political entity, the map should reflect the systems they claim sovereignty and "control". It is not your place to speak for anyone but your own alliance. If ISS want to be marked then it is up to them to request it. Quote: 2006.12.18 23:46:04 Notify Phoenix belonging to nOrAb self-destructs.
Oli4Oli4 The Syndicate Inc Ascendant Frontier	Posted - 2006.12.26 12:15:00 - [878] Axe left Impass you might wanna update the map. http://www.civis-killboard.net/?a=pilot_detail&plt_id=39576
MrRx7 Amarr Quantum Industries Prime Orbital Systems	Posted - 2006.12.27 09:22:00 - [879] by-m in now recontrolled by POS
Archonon Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2006.12.27 13:12:00 - [880] Ipod and nuts territories in Curse are under TCF control as half of Curse now. Please change that at ur next update. Thanks in advance joshua _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat

DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.12.27 23:43:00 - [881] Originally by: MrRx7 by-m in now recontrolled by POS Changes nothing overall because we still control the C9N outpost system in Esoteria and therefore are contesting the region. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
zoolkhan Minmatar Freelance Unincorporated Ushra'Khan	Posted - 2006.12.28 08:43:00 - [882] unity and cva are border to border now. the map shows a huge gap between us. we made this happen in order to be able to use short range weapons such as spitting and biting :o) U'K recruit! contact me ingame for free eve webshosting
Venix An Eye For An Eye Rule of Three	Posted - 2006.12.30 11:20:00 - [883] Rule Of Three Has claim in the HJ3 region. Razor and Tre Korner also have claims near.
Cordova Caldari Vendetta Underground Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.01.01 00:44:00 - [884] TRE KRONER* -----------------------------------------------
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.01 04:50:00 - [885] I'd just like to have a change made to point 7 on the warzones, it is no longer ASCN & Insurgancy vs Xelas And horde, it is now Insurgancy and Horde v Xelas. Thanks josh.
Ling Xu	Posted - 2007.01.01 21:37:00 - [886] I think this guy really needs to start UPDATING THE MAP or give the job to someone else already.
Rheena	Posted - 2007.01.01 22:50:00 - [887] Edited by: Rheena on 01/01/2007 22:50:11 hush its quite some work if you do those maps in a good quality, and given we had holidays (and the mapper maybe has a RL) it wont hurt to wait a bit more Given the ton of changes with the new regions and the fighting in the south. edit damn alt post :/
Ritchler Gallente Gallente Navy Federation Soliders	Posted - 2007.01.01 23:33:00 - [888] Originally by: Ling Xu I think this guy really needs to start UPDATING THE MAP or give the job to someone else already. It is the xmas holdiays follwoed by new year, some of us have families etc, he will update when he is able, he does a great job and for free. Respect that please
shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.02 00:28:00 - [889] ka-tet are now officaly clalming the 6HL8-L region. Thank you. ------------------ Ka-Tet alliance Diplo
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.02 17:17:00 - [890] Originally by: Ling Xu I think this guy really needs to start UPDATING THE MAP or give the job to someone else already. Getting Drunk and partying > Updating the map. Go complain at [email protected] if you have a problem with that. No worries though, the partying has passed and its back to work ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]

Beyond Horizon Caldari Provisions	Posted - 2007.01.02 20:50:00 - [891] Ling Xu, some people actually have a life outside EVE..... try to get one aswell, you'll like it =] - BH
Ling Xu	Posted - 2007.01.03 01:23:00 - [892] Aye well I think he can have a pass for CHRISTMAS and New Year's..... but one update per month IF that? prior to the holiday season? C'mon. That and the fact that its tilted politically- but we all know that.
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 03:23:00 - [893] Edited by: Kirex on 03/01/2007 03:23:10 And whos an alt to decide? PWYM Click above for my killboard stats.
Daedal Virtu AirHawk Alliance Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 05:58:00 - [894] FLA territory in Deklein is: RFY-QB constellation (starts with X3-PBC) A21H-Z constellation S-B1E4 constellation (ends with 3QE-9Q) Can we get our space back in the next map ^.^ Keep up the good work. <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
TigCobra Battlestars Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.03 14:44:00 - [895] Edited by: TigCobra on 03/01/2007 14:45:06 IMP has control over GW Battlestars Imperium Alliance Fleet Command
Crucifier The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:13:00 - [896] Edited by: Crucifier on 03/01/2007 17:15:52 ehm, aaa has been in full control of impass for some time now Ehm nevermind, the latest map doesnt indicate to the latest map ------
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:14:00 - [897] The war in Geminite slowed pace, E-U left the region and are no longer a part of the conflict. CDC and Pure have ceased incursions into our territory, and The only shooting going on inside geminite is Smash/RK vs ESA. RK does make insursions into Vale to fight CDC and Pure, but that is one sided agression, and not inside Geminite. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Scagga Laebetrovo Delictum 23216	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:19:00 - [898] Who claims the dangling green appendage in the stain region? Delictum 23216 Official forums
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:28:00 - [899] TSDS, no? Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Menf Seraphin Technologies S.E.R.A	Posted - 2007.01.03 17:48:00 - [900] funny to see GOON isnt worth to be noticed on map :) _____________________________________________ Some players allready noticed.. "If you SEE me, its allready too late..."

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.03 18:19:00 - [901] Originally by: Crucifier ehm, aaa has been in full control of impass for some time now Ehm nevermind, the latest map doesnt indicate to the latest map Thats odd, it does for me. Originally by: Scagga Laebetrovo Who claims the dangling green appendage in the stain region? I think its TSDS, i was told SDS and couldnt figure out who it was, the contact is still offline atm so still waiting for answer. Im pretty sure he meant TSDS now though so ill fix that tonight. Originally by: Menf funny to see GOON isnt worth to be noticed on map :) Their choice. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Molotka Amarr A.W.M	Posted - 2007.01.03 19:05:00 - [902] You're still missing a constellation in Cache as part of the RA claim. In addition, you missed several constellations in 6HL8-L that are part of the Ka-Tet claim, specifically the northern 3 constellations and 3 in the south.
Archonon Caldari Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:26:00 - [903] Concerning the east your map is completly false. Please check and read this thread before your update it could help u. _______________________ Exitus Acta Probat
Vadoc Trax Caldari Eve Defence Force	Posted - 2007.01.03 20:29:00 - [904] I thought you weren't marking Alliances on the map that claimed NPC regions anymore, now Stain suddenly has 3 of them. -------------------------------------------------- Rule #37: There is no ôoverkillö. There is only ôopen fireö and ôI need to reloadö.
Rott Child	Posted - 2007.01.03 21:27:00 - [905] Edited by: Rott Child on 03/01/2007 21:27:39 Very strange to see nuts in curse ... really, we have more problems with snigg/tyrell than nuts and ipod ! number of nuts seen in 2 mounths in curse : near 0 oops bad char :x
Engad Tanon Enterprise Estonia	Posted - 2007.01.04 09:01:00 - [906] Originally by: TigCobra Edited by: TigCobra on 03/01/2007 14:45:06 IMP has control over GW Battlestars Imperium Alliance Fleet Command dream on
Rick Norris	Posted - 2007.01.05 06:57:00 - [907] Can you put a note on the side about the PRVTRs, it seems we are quite the growing infestation. One and only post on this thread, flame away.
Nake Primary Targets	Posted - 2007.01.05 07:02:00 - [908] Originally by: Rick Norris Can you put a note on the side about the PRVTRs, it seems we are quite the growing infestation. One and only post on this thread, flame away. Pity flame
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.05 10:54:00 - [909] Razor had a thread that they claimed one of the new regions. I don't see that in the map.....maybe they don't claim it anymore. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.05 14:40:00 - [910] Originally by: QwaarJet Razor had a thread that they claimed one of the new regions. I don't see that in the map.....maybe they don't claim it anymore. We do claim it, together with you, D2 and IRON and I've (and Therem) alerted Josh to the fact that it's a razor claim to the top 4 constellations where we've also pointed out which constellations belong to RULE and what constellation belongs to TRE. All these claims are uncontested atm but I think Josh is taking a cautious approach to the new regions only recognising the ones with outposts up or a covering pos network or something like that.

Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.01.05 16:49:00 - [911] Originally by: Fred0 Originally by: QwaarJet Razor had a thread that they claimed one of the new regions. I don't see that in the map.....maybe they don't claim it anymore. We do claim it, together with you, D2 and IRON and I've (and Therem) alerted Josh to the fact that it's a razor claim to the top 4 constellations where we've also pointed out which constellations belong to RULE and what constellation belongs to TRE. All these claims are uncontested atm but I think Josh is taking a cautious approach to the new regions only recognising the ones with outposts up or a covering pos network or something like that. Josh I think said he wanted to leave things for a month or two to let things settle down in the new regions. Not much space has really changed hands. But then again the space without outposts isn't really worth taking. Ka Tet definately have good reason to be shown on the map though, with 3 outposts, a public declaration of region ownership, nobody contesting it as far as I know, I think they'll probably be the first people to go on the map of the new regions. As far as RULE, we're not particularly concerned about what the map shows, as long as it doesn't show our space as somebody elses.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.05 17:23:00 - [912] I'm still in doubt as to whether a claim in the new regions should require an outpost or not. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Ritchler Gallente EliteCCP.Com	Posted - 2007.01.05 18:15:00 - [913] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I'm still in doubt as to whether a claim in the new regions should require an outpost or not. Um, stain is claimed and it has no Conquerable outposts
Elve Sorrow Amarr Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.05 19:25:00 - [914] Originally by: Ritchler Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I'm still in doubt as to whether a claim in the new regions should require an outpost or not. Um, stain is claimed and it has no Conquerable outposts Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
Digiblast Minmatar The Collective Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.05 21:18:00 - [915] Elve Sorrow you know stain has alwayes been mine you nooB
FlumZ x13	Posted - 2007.01.06 13:16:00 - [916] Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area
Myadra Amarr Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.06 20:06:00 - [917] Originally by: FlumZ Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area Thought x13 was disbanded/inactive ... although what Josh put on map seems acurate, I'm not sure who leaked the info to him.. ? BL-IN site & Killboard
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.06 21:31:00 - [918] Dian gave me access to the Bob alt spy network. I R IN UR ALIANCE DRAWNING ON UR PAPAERS. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Amanda Wilkins Caldari Dromedary Goat Albatross and Fish	Posted - 2007.01.07 01:50:00 - [919] Edited by: Amanda Wilkins on 07/01/2007 01:46:26 Originally by: Myadra Originally by: FlumZ Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area Thought x13 was disbanded/inactive ... although what Josh put on map seems acurate, I'm not sure who leaked the info to him.. ? Someone forgot to give you the news bulletin. Or you had computerproblems? Or... nae... cannot be because you haven't noticed your killboard lately? And the intel? Must be that old photoshop thingy you made??? Oh, dear - that was leaked some months ago and made a laughingstock... seems the mapmaker is the only one taking you serious. Just one thing to add to Flumz' recap - DGAF is represented to support the freedom of the bunnies of Stain as proclaimed by one of our co-founders, Mr. Tolin Dorden. Amanda Wilkins, CEO of Dromedary, Goat, Albatross and Fish Shoot them, loot them - recruit them! ... because we DGAF!
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.07 09:30:00 - [920] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain I'm still in doubt as to whether a claim in the new regions should require an outpost or not. Of course it should, what else is there to own? The Enemy's Gate is Down

SirMolle Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.07 11:35:00 - [921] BoB is officially claiming; Feythabolis Esoteria Few stations left to transfer ownership from, the rest are in solid control. The space will be habited by various entities, and the space is owned by BoB.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.01.07 11:47:00 - [922] Originally by: Myadra Originally by: FlumZ Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area Thought x13 was disbanded/inactive ... although what Josh put on map seems acurate, I'm not sure who leaked the info to him.. ? /me votes Myadra "best" (informed) alliance leader ever. Cyvok isn't up for vote anymore, is he? Whole area is a warzone/contested/whatnot at best. Not that i give a **** about a fancy map, it's just too entertaining to tease out some more of your hilarious delusions Myadra, sorry. Shouldn't the area PPN is living in be marked BoB space after all? --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
FlumZ x13	Posted - 2007.01.07 14:09:00 - [923] Originally by: Myadra Originally by: FlumZ Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area Thought x13 was disbanded/inactive ... although what Josh put on map seems acurate, I'm not sure who leaked the info to him.. ? look at your kb oure member count and u have your self and aswear
Commander Nikolas Gallente Arcana Imperii Ltd. Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.08 03:57:00 - [924] Official Statement: SKV has made no "claims" to any space. Personally, the map changes are pretty acurate. I can undock in T-NNJZ and fly all the way down to OT-LIB or RPS-0K with the only un-docked ships being SKV or our associates. Technically PPN does control 5J, JVJ, & A-X. But I am sure small issues like that come up in every area. Hiding in the NPC stations in R-IZDC does not qualify as owning the space. In the same way, undocking once a week to try and gank some NPCers does not qualify as a conflict. If being on the map is so important to you, then undock and fight. So everyone who reads this thread is clear about the chars "End Yourself" and "Flumz". End Yourself: sits in the station of T-NNJZ all day everyday. It is most likly an alt for some empire char. It hasn't undocked for PvP in almost a month. Flumz: Has engadged in PvP once in the 4 months we have lived in stain. He has an alt with a hauler that sit in systems NPCing. If you drop probes both accounts log off. The 1st time he engadged in PvP was a couple of days ago. He simply ejected from his geddon before it was even at half armor.
John MacCoy Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. Sani Khal'Vecna	Posted - 2007.01.08 03:59:00 - [925] Originally by: FlumZ Sani Khal'Vecna dont claim r-izdc and that area in stain.... x13, TDC, PPN from AAA is there aswell in war with Sani Khal'Vecna.... they only claim 2 systems thats not the whole area I dont want to start a flame war or a big fight but I have to say that the map is very accurate in respect to what Sani Khal'Vecna has control over. Do offence but X13 has been gone for the most part of 2 months and there are only a handful of you guys around just now. Core Domination only has control of one system in the area and not for all of the time. PPN does have a few members about and we do get some good fight but to they only have a control of a system too. Now I do not want to start a flame war but I believe the map is accurate. -------------------- John MacCoy Arcana Imperii Ltd. Sani Khal'Vecna Spokesman "Those who are prideful and refuse to bow down shall be laid low and made unto dust."
Luna Liandri PPN United Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.01.08 12:55:00 - [926] Originally by: FlumZ btw in my opionen noone can claim npc regions /qft and ... blobing in your own prime doesnt control a constellation ... which is true for both sides to be clear.
FlumZ x13	Posted - 2007.01.08 15:42:00 - [927] Okay i cant write anything without mods deltes them but nikolas can flame me and end yourself..... oh well i still say its constested area.... and still no one can claim npc space anyways... dont hope u deletes this becouse its not flameing :)
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.09 00:30:00 - [928] Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.09 04:19:00 - [929] Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp How about letting people make their own announcements? That way the map maker can actually know that something is true or not and adjust things accordingly. The Enemy's Gate is Down
Strathis Mikluk Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.09 06:17:00 - [930] Originally by: Baun Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp How about letting people make their own announcements? That way the map maker can actually know that something is true or not and adjust things accordingly. If it is indeed false, I'm sure an Insurgancy representative will infrom us so, and list reasons why the statement dbp made is false. As for now, if they choose not to make an announcement, who would inform him? (If they are indeed leaving fountain) ^ personal views.

darth solo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.09 10:34:00 - [931] Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. celes apoc kill board
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:06:00 - [932] Originally by: darth solo Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. "Coreli", thanks. and yeah last night sucked, diffrent alliances on diffrent voice comms = no good. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.09 11:30:00 - [933] Originally by: darth solo Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. Are you staying in Fountain for the next month? Yes or No. dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
Baun 4S Corporation Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.09 15:37:00 - [934] Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: darth solo Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. Are you staying in Fountain for the next month? Yes or No. dbp This is why I asked you to let people make their own announcements, at least on this thread. If we do not limit this thread to discussion of map "policy" and people communicating their own claims to the map maker then it will turn into a flame fest (one which you just started now). The Enemy's Gate is Down
Ritchler Gallente EliteCCP.Com	Posted - 2007.01.09 19:02:00 - [935] Originally by: Baun Originally by: DB Preacher Originally by: darth solo Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. Are you staying in Fountain for the next month? Yes or No. dbp This is why I asked you to let people make their own announcements, at least on this thread. If we do not limit this thread to discussion of map "policy" and people communicating their own claims to the map maker then it will turn into a flame fest (one which you just started now). Please stop stating the obvious and also please stop posting about regions that are not your own or you are in contention with Thanks

Santiago Cortes Caldari Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.09 21:34:00 - [936] Cleaned May I remind you that in the attempts to keep this as accurate as possible it does not decend into the usual petty bickering, there are entire forums for that. forum rules \| [right]mailto:[email protected][white][u]mods@cc

Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.10 10:20:00 - [937] Originally by: darth solo Originally by: DB Preacher Celestial Apocalypse are in the process of pulling out of Fountain Core due to "Internal Issues". Fountain core is therefore completely uncontested nor should it be marked as a warzone. Thanks. dbp so the combined COIN/XS/Corlei fleet last night lost 11 bs to NPCs?, killing 1 of ours. YZ local. "omg celes, did we even kill one of your bs?" ill be the one that decides when the corp, if the corp pulls out not u. d solo. Not to be rude in this thread but seriously darth, this is a map thread, not a war tales thread with your views on fleet fights thrown in. this thread is for the discussion of boundaries, and who owns them, you should answer the question in short hand in my opinion and that would've been; "No we're not leaving". Thanks.
DB Preacher Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.10 10:40:00 - [938] Edited by: DB Preacher on 10/01/2007 10:38:51 Originally by: Santiago Cortes Cleaned May I remind you that in the attempts to keep this as accurate as possible it does not descend into the usual petty bickering, there are entire forums for that. Hi, Unless you are taking over as the map maker then please don't delete legimate, accurate posts about our territories. Perhaps you should have deleted the smaktalk, off-topic replies that came from that claim that were against the rules of the thread but it matters not to me. So, I state again (within the rules of the thread, this is our claim, it is up to our opponents to make one counter claim and to leave discussion elsewhere... it's on the first page ye know). BoB are in control of Fountain. It should not be marked as contested. We have outposts, pos and industry in place. We have a few friends living in Fountain spread from the core to the edges. The squatters living in Fountain while we were attacking ascn are in the process of being removed and fountain should remain a warzone until such time as it is clean of any real enemy gangs. I will post again once this is acheived. Thanks, dbp Caldari Alliance PVP Championship Winner Current RKK Ranking: (PSCAL6) Proficient Short Tanto
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.10 11:29:00 - [939] Originally by: DB Preacher Unless you are taking over as the map maker then please don't delete legimate, accurate posts about our territories. Perhaps you should have deleted the smaktalk, off-topic replies that came from that claim that were against the rules of the thread but it matters not to me. I'm sure youre well aware that... "discussions regarding moderator actions are not permitted on the forum. If you have questions regarding a post or thread, please contact [email protected]." So I wont need mention it in regards to you instructing a mod on how to do his job. Originally by: Avon Originally by: Dark Shikari What single item is larger than a jetcan? My ego?
darth solo Insurgency	Posted - 2007.01.10 14:46:00 - [940] the map makers corp is fighting us in fountain core, along with everyone else. i think he knows the status of fountain good enough. lets leave it up to him eh. d solo. celes apoc kill board


Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.11 03:01:00 - [941] I would like to remind you all of the rules of this thread, specifically: Please pick ONE person per alliance/faction to post about your claims from either side, and stick to that. and that off-topic posts will be deleted as usual. Thank you! \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|

Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:51:00 - [942] Infinitus Odium does not contest the Great Wildlands anymore. Please remove INFOD from point "B". I would also suggest you to remove "The great wildlands locals" because there are no great wildlands locals. INFOD is only a small raiding party for now. thank you josh, much lub from INFOD.
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.11 17:51:00 - [943] Infinitus Odium does not contest the Great Wildlands anymore. Please remove INFOD from point "B". I would also suggest you to remove "The great wildlands locals" because there are no great wildlands locals. INFOD is only a small raiding party for now. thank you josh, much lub from INFOD.
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.11 19:02:00 - [944] Originally by: Tassi Infinitus Odium does not contest the Great Wildlands anymore. Please remove INFOD from point "B". I would also suggest you to remove "The great wildlands locals" because there are no great wildlands locals. INFOD is only a small raiding party for now. thank you josh, much lub from INFOD. You can also add -v- to that. Since they even said they are operating out of empire. I'll link it if need be Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Tassi Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.12 14:33:00 - [945] Edited by: Tassi on 12/01/2007 14:29:57 Originally by: Cupdeez You can also add -v- to that. Since they even said they are operating out of empire. I'll link it if need be I think this is the job of -V- Alliance only. Not you nor any other.
Blade AOI Caldari Out of Order	Posted - 2007.01.12 21:01:00 - [946] I don't think so. Many Corps/Alliance post when they have control over an area.
Gardiner Minmatar Silver Star Federation Kurai Komichi	Posted - 2007.01.13 14:15:00 - [947] Kurai does not lay claim to any of stain atm.
Milano Mines Critical Mass Enterprises Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.15 01:10:00 - [948] Edited by: Milano Mines on 15/01/2007 01:11:22 Imperium alliance does not lay claim to any regions. edit: I also agree that there are no "Locals" in great wildlands. Please remove that, too.
TARREX Section XIII Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.15 04:13:00 - [949] there is no nuts in curse or say me where i can find it :)
Christopher Multsanti Euphoria Released Euphoria Unleashed	Posted - 2007.01.15 14:33:00 - [950] Number 10 War maker needs to be changed, E-U have left, I am sure the people involved in the current war will let you know the participants. It's great being Amarr that flys Minmintar aint it? EVIL SYNNs > Bob are the best, we have to pay them to use the plexs...

Rual Storge Caldari Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.16 02:16:00 - [951] Curse Alliance has complete control over GW! Rual Storge, Battlestars
Hunter Hughes Caldari Semita Umbra The Imperial Order	Posted - 2007.01.16 20:32:00 - [952] I dont know if we are big enough to be shown on this map but you have UNITY covering Imperial Order sovern space. We have or recently had the constellation between Unity and Empire, to the north. Originally by: GinoShin Edited by: GinoShin on 21/11/2006 11:41:44 whats evemon is it like a jamican wiseman?
TJ17 Gallente Dread Elite DREAD.	Posted - 2007.01.17 01:37:00 - [953] haha hunter think u guys are still a little too small but uk did claim io space on the map
MMXMMX Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.18 11:56:00 - [954] Map update any time soon
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.18 12:02:00 - [955] Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.18 20:04:00 - [956] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> You dislike your own new region? LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF till 2006
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.18 22:04:00 - [957] Originally by: Emrod Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> You dislike your own new region? Fountain only has 5 systems with npc sov, plus I'm there to actually look at who controls what. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.18 22:08:00 - [958] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: Emrod Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> You dislike your own new region? Fountain only has 5 systems with npc sov, plus I'm there to actually look at who controls what. than Good luck! LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF till 2006
Dogged Federal Navy Academy	Posted - 2007.01.19 05:33:00 - [959] Edited by: Dogged on 19/01/2007 05:30:34 -snip-
Diurpaneu Gallente PaxLuce AbjectioNati Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.19 12:00:00 - [960] Originally by: MMXMMX Map update any time soon well ? Join me ... join the fun time!

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.19 12:50:00 - [961] Originally by: Diurpaneu Originally by: MMXMMX Map update any time soon well ? Usally the combination of letters imply the presence of words which are used to convey a message or some information. People are usually inclined to read these words in order to absord the hidden information within them. Try it. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Siobhan Ni Gallente Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.19 13:41:00 - [962] -V- have disbanded, INFOD, GW locals, IMP and others have merged to form CA. At present GW is now uncontested and under control of CA.
End Yourself Core Domination Big Bang Quantum	Posted - 2007.01.19 14:53:00 - [963] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> Why not just mark them npc owned? Anybody who feels like the map can't live without him can go conquer some "real space" then. For player owned space it is kind of "easy" to evaluate who controls what, for npc regions it's almost impossible. Would make life alot easier for josh and stop all those peeps making themselves look stupid with their claims. --- Fighting for peace is like screwing for virginity.
Ron Simon Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.01.19 19:20:00 - [964] Originally by: End Yourself Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Still working on it, i very much dislike NPC owned regions >.> Why not just mark them npc owned? Anybody who feels like the map can't live without him can go conquer some "real space" then. For player owned space it is kind of "easy" to evaluate who controls what, for npc regions it's almost impossible. Would make life alot easier for josh and stop all those peeps making themselves look stupid with their claims. agreed.
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.20 02:24:00 - [965] Updates on Geminite/vale conflict: It seems ESA are moving in with Pure into Vale, while BWF and 8mg will go to C.I and F-E. However, thats less of my buisness. What concerns me, is that geminite isnt a warzone anymore. The fighting is braught into vale. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
R3dSh1ft Caldari FIRMA Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate	Posted - 2007.01.20 04:03:00 - [966] Thanks for the update, love this map. Item 8 is on the map as item 9 though, and 7 seems to be missed out. ______________________________________
Kurupt	Posted - 2007.01.20 07:47:00 - [967] Originally by: Orc A Updates on Geminite/vale conflict: It seems ESA are moving in with Pure into Vale, while BWF and 8mg will go to C.I and F-E. However, thats less of my buisness. What concerns me, is that geminite isnt a warzone anymore. The fighting is braught into vale. Lets let ESA post on info on our alliance. Thx
Zeonick Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.20 17:00:00 - [968] I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map!
Hudsonn Minmatar FireTech Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.20 17:19:00 - [969] No you shouldn't. BOB fought for the space and put RISE in there. Like all the other BOB allaices and corps, i doubt you'll be shown the map.
Republic Man Caldari Republic of LUE	Posted - 2007.01.20 17:26:00 - [970] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! NO, You didnt fight for it so why do you deserve to be on the map?

Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.01.20 17:34:00 - [971] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! You live in Bob space. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.20 20:23:00 - [972] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! Your a bob slave now. Click above for my killboard stats.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.20 21:16:00 - [973] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! They conquered it and are the controling force; therefore, it's under their sovreignty...the map is a nicity, but when it comes down to it - In-game EVE-Sov shows who is where, and what's going on there.
Crucifier BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.01.21 00:26:00 - [974] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! You dont deserve **** slave ------
Drantis J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.21 02:07:00 - [975] Originally by: Orc A Updates on Geminite/vale conflict: It seems ESA are moving in with Pure into Vale, while BWF and 8mg will go to C.I and F-E. However, thats less of my buisness. What concerns me, is that geminite isnt a warzone anymore. The fighting is braught into vale. I agree Geminate is no longer a warzone however ESE are not moving into Vale. As for the fight being in Vale - i see a few roaming gangs going to vale and just as much traffic going to K25 and TDE...Not exactly a hotbed of Warzone activity.
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.21 04:05:00 - [976] 2007.01.21 03:38 Solar System: LS-JEP Conquered Corporation: Pure Bureaucracy Conquering Corporation: Pegasus Mining and Securities Conquering Character: ***** Contested. Originally by:** End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.21 14:25:00 - [977] Just pulling your leg Drant. Mark warzone please, but not contested, atm. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Drantis J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.21 15:14:00 - [978] Edited by: Drantis on 21/01/2007 15:11:28 Thats not my leg :) Sure warzone in Gem and vale if u wish....or take warzone off both...doesnt matter to me.
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.01.21 15:55:00 - [979] Here's what. Put a warzone on the boarder between Vale and Gem, and mark it RK/Smash vs Pure./Astral Wolves. Think thats reasonable, no? Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Drantis J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.01.21 16:17:00 - [980] :) Why not...will give Josh something to do .lol

MMXMMX Caldari Resurrection R i s e	Posted - 2007.01.21 20:28:00 - [981] Nice map :) Looks great to me :)
Zarin	Posted - 2007.01.22 00:45:00 - [982] Originally by: Zeonick I know probably shouldn't be saying this (I'm not sure I have the proper "authority"), but I'd like to point out that since RISE is no longer in Outer Ring, we didn't just disappear! RISE now owns a small part of Feythabolis (mostly due to BoB), so we should be on the map! This map is only an indicator of BoBs current Ego level, not reality. I say be done with it, and just mark them as controlling the whole of Empire. We'll also need an indicator for the number of T2 BPOs they control, the number of GM's in BoB and the number of people living in their space who will turn against them .01 seconds after it becomes clear they're no longer on the winning side.
Hohne Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.22 00:56:00 - [983] There is no longer any RATEL presence in Geminate of any kind. Hasn't been for quite a while. Their very last POS in the region were destroyed inside their carrier they tried to use to pull out a few weeks ago. Antares Fleet Yards AU / NZ / US / UK / EU PvP \| Mining \| 0.0 Life Join 'AFY' channel for questions.
Pika Chu Caldari Caffeine Commodities Company	Posted - 2007.01.22 16:11:00 - [984] Originally by: Siobhan Ni -V- have disbanded, INFOD, GW locals, IMP and others have merged to form CA. At present GW is now uncontested and under control of CA. What about nmtz/foundation? Are you all NAP'd now or is GW still a battlezone?
Ilmonstre Minmatar Infinitus Odium	Posted - 2007.01.22 18:43:00 - [985] Namtz dont give a fight they just sit in 1 system in a POS when people come into local.
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.22 18:48:00 - [986] JF, think you could change the note for the 'Coalition vs. RA' war to 'LV vs. RA Coalition' or something closer to the truth :) Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!
Crucifier BURN EDEN Terra Incognita.	Posted - 2007.01.22 20:28:00 - [987] Originally by: Drilla JF, think you could change the note for the 'Coalition vs. RA' war to 'LV vs. RA Coalition' or something closer to the truth :) Funny how you act when the coalition is on the other side of the vs ------
Gunship Amarr FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 00:00:00 - [988] Noticed we are on the map Anyways, our "blob" is a little on the large side, we are only in the Constalation GDBW-2. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you So you want to join us?
Raste Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.23 03:44:00 - [989] Edited by: Raste on 23/01/2007 03:41:07 Originally by: Gunship Noticed we are on the map Anyways, our "blob" is a little on the large side, we are only in the Constalation GDBW-2. Nothing more, nothing less. Thank you Congrats Gunship! ===This is a sig=== "no matter where you are or what you're doing, you know that down in the southeast, LV and RA are trying to stab each other in the face." -- Cadiz ==============
Drilla Shinra Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2007.01.23 07:36:00 - [990] Originally by: Crucifier Originally by: Drilla JF, think you could change the note for the 'Coalition vs. RA' war to 'LV vs. RA Coalition' or something closer to the truth :) Funny how you act when the coalition is on the other side of the vs Eeeh huh? Seek not to bar my way, for I shall win through - no matter the cost!

shivan Rampage Eternal Ka-Tet	Posted - 2007.01.23 15:20:00 - [991] Regarding the Ka-Tet claim, please use this as the basis for it. Our claim goes from souther system of XUPK-Z, to the west JUE-DX, up to the 2ID-87 and also including the 7-ZDOK constlation to finaly to the easy, system RT64-C. Thank you ------------------ Ka-Tet alliance Diplo RAM KB
Apple Boy Gallente Thundercats RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 17:45:00 - [992] a note, venal is actually an NPC region, sovereignty lies with guristas priates. and what about the hedge? razor claimed that a while ago, http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=446943 with partial claims for two other alliances inside of it.
Fred0 Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.23 21:05:00 - [993] Edited by: Fred0 on 23/01/2007 21:04:43 Disregard apple boy. We've made our claims and we definitely have no interest to post about Venal. Please Apple boy, please.
Biggs Fa'Duk	Posted - 2007.01.26 07:16:00 - [994] i see no goons
Samantha Kensington Gallente	Posted - 2007.01.26 18:50:00 - [995] Don't know if anyone's mentioned it or not, but there is a 9 on the map in Catch region yet no explaination in the legend on the left. Also I'm not entirly sure but according to the ombey maps there is a outpost in the GB-6X5 system in the 'back' of insmother. According to the intel I'm seeing RA has not taken this outpost and LV has not lost this outpost since it was seeded. I only say this to hopefully show the map a little more accurately, if it's already showing this I am sorry. -Sammy
Emrod Amarr Legion Du Lys Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.01.27 06:55:00 - [996] Originally by: Samantha Kensington Don't know if anyone's mentioned it or not, but there is a 9 on the map in Catch region yet no explaination in the legend on the left. Also I'm not entirly sure but according to the ombey maps there is a outpost in the GB-6X5 system in the 'back' of insmother. According to the intel I'm seeing RA has not taken this outpost and LV has not lost this outpost since it was seeded. I only say this to hopefully show the map a little more accurately, if it's already showing this I am sorry. -Sammy And you are a ambassador of..the gallente rigth? LDLQ, the Quebec touch in TCF since 2006
Crellion Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.01.29 00:01:00 - [997] Might want to consider a marker for GW to warn peeps that think is peacefull... I had many just before the "poof" there lately. Ty Arguably my opinions represent to an extent the opinions of my alliance and in particular circumstances give rise to a valid "casus belli" claim.
0August0 Gallente Aliastra	Posted - 2007.01.29 06:09:00 - [998] I don't know if this has been mentioned before but it'd be nice if the boundaries to empire were included on the map as a reference. . . . Regards, August
Antibac Unscoped Myriad Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.29 22:17:00 - [999] Joshua, In the next map update you can remove the conflict marker from Immensea. Myriad have withdrawn from the region. The Z-H station has changed hands from UCC to TCF, we have taken down all towers holding 2o-eew and I believe that NUTS are out of the region now too. Thanks, Antibac _____________________________________________ Contact me for standings, or if you are interested in joining Myriad Alliance
Patricko Tandbergo	Posted - 2007.01.30 02:24:00 - [1000] Hey question, Ascendant Frontier http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_327815755.asp currently has listed the most members, and a bunch of terretorys. Yet I don't see portion of land for them on the map under their name or abriviation. For some reason I feel this is somehow related to a war they had with BoB, mabey someone could enlighten brefily on the turn of events.

Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.01.30 03:13:00 - [1001] Originally by: Patricko Tandbergo Hey question, Ascendant Frontier http://www.eve-online.com/alliances/a_327815755.asp currently has listed the most members, and a bunch of terretorys. Yet I don't see portion of land for them on the map under their name or abriviation. For some reason I feel this is somehow related to a war they had with BoB, mabey someone could enlighten brefily on the turn of events. Check previous versions of the map and you'd see their territory slowly disolve due to the BoB war. ASCN is pretty much gone, and the EVE-O guide is very outdated.
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.01.31 23:34:00 - [1002] Edited by: Amerame on 31/01/2007 23:32:30 TCF own all of wicked creek as well as the northern half of immensea (Z-H + I-N). TCF control the Hale constellation entirely, the rest of Curse is a warzone.
Milano II Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.01 06:03:00 - [1003] One question to the map maker: Can we please PLEASE PLEASE have a normal sized map back? Something to the size of 1280x1024 or so? I mean... at least, in addition to this new one? Not everyone has a huge monitor with a superman resolution... I'd like to be able to view it all on one screen, and resized in IE/Firefox, it just.. is unreadable. PLEASE?
Baline Aegis Tau Ceti Federation	Posted - 2007.02.02 22:20:00 - [1004] I'm afraid i have to ask it too. Thank you.
Stamm Amarr Three Holdings Rule of Three	Posted - 2007.02.03 18:26:00 - [1005] You may wish to mark Fatal Alliance's space as contested by RULE, Invictus and Ka Tet. We're currently in their base, shooting their mans. Galaxian Recruitment Info
Sun Win Mutually Assured Distraction	Posted - 2007.02.04 20:39:00 - [1006] Originally by: Milano II One question to the map maker: Can we please PLEASE PLEASE have a normal sized map back? Something to the size of 1280x1024 or so? PLEASE? signed! New to Eve? Learn to Fly - join channel: "Eve University" or read here
Tassi Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.05 15:48:00 - [1007] INFOD is officially claiming the Sound constellation in Curse in the name of the Curse Alliance. Josh, could you please include a little advertisement for our mining-pass business (200mill a week)? j/k
SchirmerN Amarr WKK Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.05 17:55:00 - [1008] Edited by: SchirmerN on 05/02/2007 17:52:42 Any update to the map on the way?
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.08 01:13:00 - [1009] Originally by: SchirmerN Edited by: SchirmerN on 05/02/2007 17:52:42 Any update to the map on the way? Hopefully thursday. :( ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Marcus TheMartin Gallente Tuxedo.	Posted - 2007.02.08 22:56:00 - [1010] The april fools day link is broken either that or the joke is that it sends you to the most recent map Half Assed Rhymage

Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.02.08 23:37:00 - [1011] Tenerifis is a warzone.
rgreat Gallente OEG	Posted - 2007.02.09 03:54:00 - [1012] Originally by: Milano II I'd like to be able to view it all on one screen, and resized in IE/Firefox, it just.. is unreadable. Try to use better software. It helps. Detailed map is good. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't worry. I struck you with the back of the sword. Oh, sorry. This sword's double-bladed.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.09 11:34:00 - [1013] Originally by: rgreat Originally by: Milano II I'd like to be able to view it all on one screen, and resized in IE/Firefox, it just.. is unreadable. Try to use better software. It helps. Detailed map is good. Edit: But why use BMP format? If you encode map in PNG, it will only take 2.8mb instead of current 12.4mb, and without any quality loss to boot. Bmp...? ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Alerion Acquire	Posted - 2007.02.09 12:27:00 - [1014] Originally by: rgreat Edit: But why use BMP format? If you encode map in PNG, it will only take 2.8mb instead of current 12.4mb, and without any quality loss to boot. But it's not a BMP? It's been JPG for as long as I can remember, I like the big size too. What's the use of seeing the whole map on the screen at once? This way you get a lot more detailed information on the map.
rgreat Gallente OEG	Posted - 2007.02.09 21:47:00 - [1015] Jpeg now. It was bmp for me at the time i posted. ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Don't worry. I struck you with the back of the sword. Oh, sorry. This sword's double-bladed.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.09 23:56:00 - [1016] Originally by: rgreat Jpeg now. It was bmp for me at the time i posted. All the maps have always been jpeg, BMP would take ages to load, PNG is oversized as well ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Rennard Aku Soku Zan	Posted - 2007.02.10 01:12:00 - [1017] Well a big update is upon you Joshua, good luck on that new map :)
Sisko Urso Gallente Dark-Rising Fallen Souls	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:35:00 - [1018] I noticed war zone 9 in catch on the recent map does not have description for it.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.10 20:49:00 - [1019] Whoopsie, will fix that when i get back. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Amerame Section XIII	Posted - 2007.02.10 21:46:00 - [1020] TCF owns all of wicked creek, not immensea. Immensea is owned by TCF (northern half) and UNL, southern half.

Kirex Gallente Vale Heavy Industries SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:51:00 - [1021] Edited by: Kirex on 11/02/2007 01:49:25 afaik, shouldn't there be a war zone in the fountain delve area? I heard the north is setting up camp there? edit: And shouldn't Detorid be contested? We're currently ripping down lv POSs. Click above for my killboard stats.
Sever Aldaria Agony Unleashed	Posted - 2007.02.11 01:55:00 - [1022] New Eden Conglomerate <NEC> has disbanded and should be removed from the Pure Blind territory. [green]Please resize image to a maximum of 400 x 120, not exceeding 24000 bytes, ty. If you would like further d
Rikeka Amarr Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.11 02:41:00 - [1023] Thx for the update, Josh.
Ammath The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.11 04:42:00 - [1024] Joshua, recheck Pure Blind's territory map. NEC is all but gone and NXT LvL now has much of its holdings, not a hostile takeover mind you. Just changes in ownership Ammath Director The 5 Amigos LLC
Hehulk Black Sea Industries	Posted - 2007.02.11 11:09:00 - [1025] Edited by: Hehulk on 11/02/2007 11:06:47 F4T4L space is under siege as well, but it's not marked Also, IAC claim all of catch. Check the stations (Except, FAT, I heard they lost that recently) ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.11 13:43:00 - [1026] Edited by: God''s Army on 11/02/2007 13:42:00 Geminate Update: V1G-63 Constellation in Geminate(Q-TBHW/L-TDFR/9P40-F systems) ROADKILL/Pure Border, which is colored under Pure Control in ur map, is Contested atm, Please joshua set this area warzone + contested. Roadkill/Smash/HH are Sieging those 3 Systems. Thanks. ---- Long life the warrios of God R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard
Dalilah Xenobytes Stain Empire	Posted - 2007.02.11 17:09:00 - [1027] Originally by: Hehulk Also, IAC claim all of catch. Check the stations (Except, FAT, I heard they lost that recently) LOL IAC rents AAA stations and they have a NAP ------------------------------------
IntrepidCross Caldari Science and Trade Institute	Posted - 2007.02.11 18:54:00 - [1028] All of LV's Space should be set as conjested
Hehulk Black Sea Industries	Posted - 2007.02.11 19:50:00 - [1029] Originally by: Dalilah Originally by: Hehulk Also, IAC claim all of catch. Check the stations (Except, FAT, I heard they lost that recently) LOL IAC rents AAA stations and they have a NAP Fair enough, you'd know better than I would ---------- It's great being minmatar, ain't it
Sonya Casiros The Ministry of Propaganda	Posted - 2007.02.11 22:30:00 - [1030] Edited by: Sonya Casiros on 11/02/2007 22:26:32 Originally by: IntrepidCross All of LV's Space should be set as conjested Not true, Detorid should be set as a contested war zone. LV does not have control of both areas. The Tenerefis should be listed as a war zone. Omist is accurate as it is. Insmother, Wicked Creek, and Scalding Pass really aren't war zones anymore. I do not represent the alliances in the area but in the interest in an accurate map, Joshua, I have given you this information. Can an alliance rep from either faction confirm this please? NOTE: My corp ticker doesn't appear to be showing up. I am in The Ministry of Propaganda, an independant intel service corp. EDIT: NM got it to show.

Galea Wildfang Celestial Apocalypse Insurgency	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:06:00 - [1031] Insurgency no longer bases itself in Fountain (Darth on EVE-O) I'm in no way a Spokesperson for said organization, I just happen to be pointed at the map by friends. Flamming leads to anger, anger leads to pain, pain leads to suffering, and suffering leads to teh Dark Side !
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:18:00 - [1032] Originally by: IntrepidCross All of LV's Space should be set as conjested You shouldn't comment on this that don't concern you. ----- [Coreli Corporation Mainframe]
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:41:00 - [1033] Just to note, given that Fatal space, and particularly YM- has been the subject of spirited fighting, and that Invictus and its allies now have poses up in ym- and surrounding systems, and have destroyed or reinforced poses in YM- at this point, there should probably be a war denoted there. And a damn fine one too, to give props to FATAL.
Cmd Woodlouse Cataclysm Enterprises Dusk and Dawn	Posted - 2007.02.12 00:54:00 - [1034] Mark Fountain as a warzone. We are there as you might know --------------------------------
Orange Species Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.02.12 04:49:00 - [1035] Edited by: Orange Species on 12/02/2007 04:45:38 Originally by: Cmd Woodlouse Mark Fountain as a warzone. We are there as you might know Check it before you post Wood Mouse!
Abye SniggWaffe Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.12 06:10:00 - [1036] Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: rgreat PNG is oversized as well PNG works better than JPEG for images with lots of single colored areas, especially when you have a low total color count. It might not hurt the image quality much to publish the map with 256 colors. Considering eve-files gets bombarded by requests for this single file I'd give it a try. ___ Inappropriate signature. Please do not use this signature. Email us for more information -Eldo ([email protected])
Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.12 08:30:00 - [1037] Constellations: K-QUVW, S4GH-I, 38G6-L, G8-D09, MDM8-J, U8-CWA Now under NxT Level Alliance claim, i am the President of said alliance. Thanks
Hoshi Blackguard Brigade	Posted - 2007.02.12 13:10:00 - [1038] Originally by: Abye Originally by: Joshua Foiritain Originally by: rgreat PNG is oversized as well PNG works better than JPEG for images with lots of single colored areas, especially when you have a low total color count. It might not hurt the image quality much to publish the map with 256 colors. Considering eve-files gets bombarded by requests for this single file I'd give it a try. Just resaving the JPEG to a 24bit PNG (which means completely lossless compression) saves 0.5mb size (down form 3.3mb to 2.8mb). If you saved the original image instead of one full with JPEG compression artifacts you will probably save a lot more. Less then half the size of the JPEG is my guess and it would look better to boot. ---------------------------------------- A Guide to Scan Probing in Revelations
Tearavygh Quillam Caldari mega mining corporation Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.12 17:59:00 - [1039] Originally by: God's Army Edited by: God''s Army on 11/02/2007 13:42:00 Geminate Update: V1G-63 Constellation in Geminate(Q-TBHW/L-TDFR/9P40-F systems) ROADKILL/Pure Border, which is colored under Pure Control in ur map, is Contested atm, Please joshua set this area warzone + contested. Roadkill/Smash/HH are Sieging those 3 Systems. Thanks. I'm not a representative, but neither are you since you don't even know how to spell those systems right, nor which is actually "under siege"... Please restate your demand or put someone else to do it, someone who knows what's realy happening...
God's Army Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.12 18:44:00 - [1040] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: God's Army Edited by: God''s Army on 11/02/2007 13:42:00 Geminate Update: V1G-63 Constellation in Geminate(Q-TBHW/L-TDFR/9P40-F systems) ROADKILL/Pure Border, which is colored under Pure Control in ur map, is Contested atm, Please joshua set this area warzone + contested. Roadkill/Smash/HH are Sieging those 3 Systems. Thanks. I'm not a representative, but neither are you since you don't even know how to spell those systems right, nor which is actually "under siege"... Please restate your demand or put someone else to do it, someone who knows what's realy happening... first, im there killing your buddies 23/7, second, nothing wrong with the system spelling. it's northern constellation in geminate (Checkpoint to vale Of Silent / and New regions), and few towers belong to your puppie alliance putted in reinforce. those systems where ur buds living protected by Pure., shushh, only Both sides Pure./RK state about this area. V1G-63 Constellation, warzone. That's cool with you Pure.? ---- Long life the warrios of God R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard

Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:27:00 - [1041] We are requesting a War Marker over Great Wildlands. Great Wildlands is a war zone between COW (and friends) vs CA. CA are unable to respond to threats arguably you could say they don't have any real control and they have failed to defend and thus lost POS in GW. You can check CA's own killboard for confirmation. [EVE TASK BAR?]
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:34:00 - [1042] you were shooting a pos we care little about , the whole of curse alliance was off fightong bob and lv when we were told of you 20man bs gang shooting up 3 pos. we decided not to come back to defend them as they were of little value. you coming into our space when we arent there doesnt = control, as soon as we return back to gw during he daytime all you do is smack in local waiting for us to go off and help fight bob during the us timezone how can you claim a warzone when only around 20 of your members are ever in gw vs our 200+ ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:43:00 - [1043] We can claim this because you lose Carriers and POS when those "200 people" either cannot, or will not, fight. If you're spreading yourself too thinly that is not my concern. It's a warzone. We're responsible for between a third and half of all NCA's loses, ever. If you wish to spin the facts than start a new thread, the evidence speaks for itself. Warzone marker, Please. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.12 21:52:00 - [1044] Originally by: Tearavygh Quillam Originally by: God's Army Edited by: God''s Army on 11/02/2007 13:42:00 Geminate Update: V1G-63 Constellation in Geminate(Q-TBHW/L-TDFR/9P40-F systems) ROADKILL/Pure Border, which is colored under Pure Control in ur map, is Contested atm, Please joshua set this area warzone + contested. Roadkill/Smash/HH are Sieging those 3 Systems. Thanks. I'm not a representative, but neither are you since you don't even know how to spell those systems right, nor which is actually "under siege"... Please restate your demand or put someone else to do it, someone who knows what's realy happening... OMG one letter spelling error, omg teh noes... A D for and O FFS go hide in your pos and stop making a fool of yourself on the forums. BTW really has two L's Anyways on the topic, pure has no sovereignty in the constellation, Astral Pups and R0adkill/Hellhounds do. Two Hellhounds Poses were put in reinforced by Pure, they were saved and I believe two Pup's poses were put in reinforced, and I am not sure of their status. Midsized fleet battles occur daily. Status should be contested, as there is no clear owner at this point. The facts on the ground clearly favor R0adKill though. Further, the KR-XF4 could be marked for R0adkill. The facts on the ground clearly favor RK though.
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 22:06:00 - [1045] were hardly going to bring the alliance back to e02 so we can defend vs 20 people who hide when we are around. you killed 1 carrier that was solo (probably because he did a cyno to close to a station) and as far as im aware 1 pos. if josh wants to give you the warzone thats fine with me im just posting the facts, it is not a warzone imo maybe josh thinks different. ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Minnow maught Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 22:41:00 - [1046] Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui were hardly going to bring the alliance back to e02 so we can defend vs 20 people who hide when we are around. In 21 days of hostilities, CA have received 28.2bil of damage from us out of 78.3bil total on your board = 36% or 798 losses out of 2362 = 33.7% ...our board has it slightly higher (quodos for a fairly accurate board btw). If a third of your losses are being instigated by a group of 20 people who "run away" then perhaps the 'war zone' is not warranted. Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui you killed 1 carrier that was solo (probably because he did a cyno to close to a station) and as far as im aware 1 pos. 3 Pos' not 1. Originally by: D'onryu Shoqui if josh wants to give you the warzone thats fine with me im just posting the facts, it is not a warzone imo maybe josh thinks different. Perhaps you should check your 'facts' .... a war zone is definately warranted.
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.12 22:57:00 - [1047] I apologise in advance, but it's only right to clarify this mis-information. There simply is not '20' people, you can check that yourself on your own boards. There was more than one POS destroyed. The Carrier pilot was in M-MD3B with (approximately) 30 CA local, and 60 CA next door (And in fairness the kill was down to RIOT's hard work). A CA gang was formed, warped to m-m gate in e02, bottled it and returned to station and most docked. That is not called that 'solo', that is called 'incompetent'. Please hold off that reply button before you expose us all to any more of your 'facts', check your info and if you wish to discuss this further you may mail me or start a new thread. If you do not wish to defend your space and continue to lose assets, ships, pos and whatever else in Great Wildlands, again, it's not our concern. That's pretty much enough COW needs to say on this matter. And also enough discussion, I hope. [EVE TASK BAR?]
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.12 23:59:00 - [1048] Quote: In 21 days of hostilities, CA have received 28.2bil of damage from us out of 78.3bil total on your board = 36% or 798 losses out of 2362 = 33.7% ...our board has it slightly higher (quodos for a fairly accurate board btw). If a third of your losses are being instigated by a group of 20 people who "run away" then perhaps the 'war zone' is not warranted. stop trying to alter the facts for your own benefit. you realise how killboards work right? im in CA i kill xirtams in a sleipner 20 times. i join COW , cow gain 20 sleipner kill and alot more dmg done. nearly all that dmg in isk you have inflicted on us is from one corp, a corp that fought really really hard when we were fighting -v- cult of war alliance = Damage done (ISK):28206.06M enterprise estonia (cult of war corp) Damage done (ISK):25161.23M now do you see how little dmg you have actually inflicted? its nowhere near 28bil because nearly all of that is from the -v- war. you have kill mails listed under your alliance from before your alliance started attacking us , to get accurate numers you need to only count killmails from the date your alliance actually started attacking us. ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:19:00 - [1049] No, because Cult of War stats are Cult of War stats, which we are the ones we're referencing. If you don't even know how your killboard works, Don't post about it. Of course if you like making yourself out to be a joke, continue. Damage done by .EE while they were not in COW is not counted in the COW stats. However it is counted on .EEs own stats, this is completely consistent with our statements. We have given consistent, accurate proof and all you do is post dribble. If this helps you embarrass yourself more: Art of War has caused: Damage done (ISK):22377.32M CA, I hope you're all very proud of this 'representative' of yours. He's making your alliance look just swell. [EVE TASK BAR?]
D'onryu Shoqui Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:56:00 - [1050] okay if thats true then i ****** up im not a rep of ca i shouldnt be posting in this thread but if i didnt i doubt anyone else would. either way you only have limited control of gw while we arent there, a bunch of ganking nano ships or a cloaked raven and falcon killing ratters in a carebear system isnt a warzone. if we took 20-30 guys into another alliances space and have constant ganking gangs of 3-5 people roaming around while they are off fighting a real war elsewhere do you think that warrants a warzone indication on this map? by time the map gets updated again we will probably be back in force and josh will have wasted his time lets face it before we went to attack lv/bob you werent bothered about a warzone because you know for a fact you couldnt do anything but gank the carebears not paying attention in local while chaining rats or the people moving in and out of empire without scouts. by your own standards every 0.0 region should be marked as a warzone on the map ------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance i belong to.

Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.13 00:59:00 - [1051] Thanks for that. Apology accepted and unless the real CA Diplomat stands up, Warzone Ahoy! <3 [EVE TASK BAR?]
bodycollecter CAPITAL TRUST FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 01:55:00 - [1052] FREGE Claims The following Constellations TYO-Q2 Qo-4fu B-MQOY SOX-04 LWMW-6 in the S-I6VU Region Just figured i would clarify as seems somehow you have us in wrong spot on your map. Thank you, Signed/BC
Extreme Eye of God X-PACT	Posted - 2007.02.13 03:19:00 - [1053] Originally by: bodycollecter FREGE Claims The following Constellations TYO-Q2 Qo-4fu B-MQOY SOX-04 LWMW-6 in the S-I6VU Region Just figured i would clarify as seems somehow you have us in wrong spot on your map. Thank you, Signed/BC Aren't that system's you claim instead of constellations ? . .
dabster Minmatar Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.13 16:44:00 - [1054] May i suggest that CoW ignore the CA idiot posting in this thread, just email [email protected] instead to get his unjustified ranting deleted. A warmaker on GW wouldnt be wrong, CoW base in empire and take daily trips+camps to GW. The End. ___________________________ Trust In Rust!
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.14 06:27:00 - [1055] The Red Swarm Federation in association with The Bizzaro Southern Coalition formally contest Detorid. Please mark Tenerifis and Omist as warzones; with the recent addition of Burn Eden to our family, anything less would be an insult to them. ---- "I've never cheated, I've never witnessed those I fly with, cheat and I guarentee you that if I DID witness such a thing I would be first in line to petition it." - Dianabolic
John MacCoy Amarr Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel.	Posted - 2007.02.14 12:38:00 - [1056] The Cartel have control over the area of Stain that Sani Khal'Vecna had during the 01.01.109 version of the map. I believe that AAA has control over the rest but you would have to ask them to be sure. -------------------- John MacCoy Arcana Imperii Ltd. The Cartel "Those who are prideful and refuse to bow down shall be laid low and made unto dust."
Shin Ra BURN EDEN GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.14 17:34:00 - [1057] Originally by: Dungar Loghoth The Red Swarm Federation in association with The Bizzaro Southern Coalition formally contest Detorid. Please mark Tenerifis and Omist as warzones; with the recent addition of Burn Eden to our family, anything less would be an insult to them. Confirmed. Goonfleet black ops/BE/RA forces are very active in Omist and Feythabolis
Thoric Frosthammer The Syndicate Inc INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.02.14 18:45:00 - [1058] Quick change: war #8 reads Invictus vs. FATAL. I wasn't clear enough in my last post. Should read: Invictus, Rule of Three, X-Pact, Ka-tet & Friends against FATAL. Got to give our homies their props. Yo.
Nesa Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.15 03:23:00 - [1059] Edited by: Nesa on 15/02/2007 03:22:33 As I pointed out for the last TWO updates RATEL hold no space in Geminate. They don't have a single soverign system, or as far as I can tell POS or member in the whole region. This has been the case for several months. The SMASH claim also encompasses the whole 74IL constellation (O2O - UG-UWZ). The portion of Pure Space in Geminate is contested by Roadkill / Hell Hounds. SMASH are assisting them in their claim when needed. Meanwhile SMASH dreads and fleet have been assisting RA/TCF/OHGOD etc in 1v- DG- pusing into Detorid. Given the number of POS's going up and coming down in Detorid I'd be hard pressed to come up with an excuse not to mark that region as contested.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.15 06:43:00 - [1060] Originally by: Nesa Edited by: Nesa on 15/02/2007 03:22:33 As I pointed out for the last TWO updates RATEL hold no space in Geminate. They don't have a single soverign system, or as far as I can tell POS or member in the whole region. This has been the case for several months. The SMASH claim also encompasses the whole 74IL constellation (O2O - UG-UWZ). The portion of Pure Space in Geminate is contested by Roadkill / Hell Hounds. SMASH are assisting them in their claim when needed. Meanwhile SMASH dreads and fleet have been assisting RA/TCF/OHGOD etc in 1v- DG- pusing into Detorid. Given the number of POS's going up and coming down in Detorid I'd be hard pressed to come up with an excuse not to mark that region as contested. Aye for all the stuff relating to geminate.

Zubenelgenubi Priory Of The Lemon R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.15 22:46:00 - [1061] Hi, chimeing in for contested status for the 1VG- constellation in geminate. The campaign vs Astral Wolves is progressing nicely. Sig removed. Please keep sigs to 400x120 pixels and 24000 bytes in size or less. -Kaemonn ([email protected])
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.16 16:50:00 - [1062] Originally by: Midiana Constellations: K-QUVW, S4GH-I, 38G6-L, G8-D09, MDM8-J, U8-CWA Now under NxT Level Alliance claim, i am the President of said alliance. Thanks MDM8-J and U8-CWA are FLA territories 38G6-L is sisters of eve territory I is Goca
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.16 19:57:00 - [1063] Cult of war contesting GW ROFL.. how many COW's were on the carrier kill 4 out of 20? Yes, COW has a few nano ships that run around ganging people that we can't catch but if this is the case then you can say CA is contesting all of 0.0. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:09:00 - [1064] Originally by: Cupdeez Cult of war contesting GW ROFL.. how many COW's were on the carrier kill 4 out of 20? Yes, COW has a few nano ships that run around ganging people that we can't catch but if this is the case then you can say CA is contesting all of 0.0. lol! Another CA fool posting in the Map thread? Are you the actual diplomat this time? We are not contesting. We asked for a warmarker. Can we PLEASE have a CA diplomat that can read? It's that or I'll be demanding to talk to the grown ups.. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.17 00:09:00 - [1065] Originally by: Cupdeez Cult of war contesting GW ROFL.. how many COW's were on the carrier kill 4 out of 20? Yes, COW has a few nano ships that run around ganging people that we can't catch but if this is the case then you can say CA is contesting all of 0.0. lol! Another CA fool posting in the Map thread? Are you the actual diplomat this time? We are not contesting. We asked for a warmarker. Can we PLEASE have a CA diplomat that can read? It's that or I'll be demanding to talk to the grown ups.. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Daedal Virtu Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 02:43:00 - [1066] FLA would like to reiterate its claim to the following constellations: MDM8-J and U8-CWA They have been FLA territory for some time, and now that Pure Blind is having claims made to it we would like it to be noted that is is part of our territory. FLA One http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/ <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
DJTheBaron Caldari FATAL REVELATIONS FATAL Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 11:11:00 - [1067] #8 Ka-Tet/X-Pact/Invictis/Exceed/Rule/OXIDE/Dark Matter Coalition/GUARD/Pentagram/DarkStar1 vs. Fatal Alliance __________________________________________________ Scum, your all scum.
Lord Regnier	Posted - 2007.02.17 14:21:00 - [1068] Originally by: DJTheBaron #8 Ka-Tet/X-Pact/Invictis/Exceed/Rule/OXIDE/Dark Matter Coalition/GUARD/Pentagram/DarkStar1 vs. Fatal Alliance i know seriously lol
Rocksteady Eddie NxT LvL Holdings NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.17 16:45:00 - [1069] MDM8 Is NOT fla territory, nexus, eternal empire and NEC liberated that while fla leadership moaned at us for expanding. We reiterate our claim on mdm8
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.17 16:57:00 - [1070] Originally by: Rocksteady Eddie MDM8 Is NOT fla territory, nexus, eternal empire and NEC liberated that while fla leadership moaned at us for expanding. We reiterate our claim on mdm8 nada, two systems were EE most were Eliptika (namely one corp)'s territory.. when EE left, it became FLA territory, it was offered to one of the leaders of NEC, who declined the offer, it was also offered to FoF who also declined... so now it is FLA territory and should be marked as such. see official response above.. I is Goca

Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.17 17:40:00 - [1071] So come and take it
Paltar Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.02.17 17:47:00 - [1072] Edited by: Paltar on 17/02/2007 17:44:16 Originally by: Daedal Virtu FLA would like to reiterate its claim to the following constellations: MDM8-J and U8-CWA They have been FLA territory for some time, and now that Pure Blind is having claims made to it we would like it to be noted that is is part of our territory. Just for historical reference NEXUS, Eternal Rising and Project Gemini were the first corps to lay any sort of claim to PB while members of FLA. None of which remain in FLA now nor does any sovereignty claimed while in FLA. Leaderships in FLA have changed and while FLA do not lay any sort of claim to pure blind at this time (d2, fof, nxt level reside there afaik) if they wish to thats another matter. Good luck to both parties. http://eternalrising.net
Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.17 17:52:00 - [1073] Glad someone remembers the facts :)
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.17 18:21:00 - [1074] Originally by: Paltar Edited by: Paltar on 17/02/2007 18:08:09 Originally by: Daedal Virtu FLA would like to reiterate its claim to the following constellations: MDM8-J and U8-CWA They have been FLA territory for some time, and now that Pure Blind is having claims made to it we would like it to be noted that is is part of our territory. Just for historical reference NEXUS, Eternal Rising and Project Gemini were the first corps to lay any sort of claim to PB while members of FLA. None of which remain in FLA now nor does any sovereignty claimed while in FLA. Leaderships in FLA have changed and while FLA do not lay any sort of claim to pure blind at this time (d2, fof, nxt level reside there afaik) if they wish to thats another matter. Originally by: Goca nada, two systems were EE most were Eliptika (namely one corp)'s territory.. when EE left, it became FLA territory, it was offered to one of the leaders of NEC, who declined the offer, it was also offered to FoF who also declined... so now it is FLA territory and should be marked as such. People with an IQ above the negative should deal with this - if FLA were sensible they'd have gagged you ages ago. The remnants of EE were removed by FLA + allies late last year - it was discussed within FLA about expanding into the then void in PB which was at the time not endorsed nor supported by FLA's ruling body at that time. Just because FLA have decided they can claim something verbally does not chance the reality. You need combat pilots and dreads if you wish to lay claim and it'll be an interesting sight to behold i'm sure. /me suggests this moves from here to an appropriate thread in another forum. sorry but EE was largely a non issue by the time their medium pos was put into reinforced..by FLA and some allies their clearing out for the most part was accomplished by Eliptika and FoF.. before this happened.. I'm sure EE will remember who it was that fought them every single day.. Narny knew that those territories were FLA territories when he left, it was stated so in the forums, the leadership at the time put residency on a back burner for the time being.. If you wish to have a residency progam extended to you there, I'm sure contacting the proper people will help in this. Not sure why there is flammage, I have smacked no one here, just stating the facts. I believe an official statement was made by FLA's leader. everything else said here is semantics anyhow.. I is Goca
Paltar Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.02.17 18:30:00 - [1075] Edited by: Paltar on 17/02/2007 18:29:36 Just because Daedal made a post doesn't make it official or true you guys don't have the credibility to just go stating that regions belong to you. you want it fight for it. its NXT's territory because they live there... FLA don't. thats the bottom line. http://eternalrising.net
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.17 18:56:00 - [1076] Originally by: Paltar Edited by: Paltar on 17/02/2007 18:29:36 Just because Daedal made a post doesn't make it official or true you guys don't have the credibility to just go stating that regions belong to you. you want it fight for it. its NXT's territory because they live there... FLA don't. thats the bottom line. ok. I is Goca
Qorrin	Posted - 2007.02.17 20:48:00 - [1077] Just had one thing to point out on Geminate. JE1 and 9P40 are now under HellHound Soveriegnty and Pure has been kicked out of Geminate along with their vassal Astral Wolves. Would greatly like to see Hellhounds Sov shown on the territorial map as we take more systems. Should see us popping up all over former Pure and AW systems in Geminate. -Q
Gharthak Gallente The 5 Amigo's LLC. NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.17 21:26:00 - [1078] Originally by: Goca Originally by: Paltar Edited by: Paltar on 17/02/2007 18:08:09 Originally by: Daedal Virtu FLA would like to reiterate its claim to the following constellations: MDM8-J and U8-CWA They have been FLA territory for some time, and now that Pure Blind is having claims made to it we would like it to be noted that is is part of our territory. Originally by: Goca nada, two systems were EE most were Eliptika (namely one corp)'s territory.. when EE left, it became FLA territory, it was offered to one of the leaders of NEC, who declined the offer, it was also offered to FoF who also declined... so now it is FLA territory and should be marked as such. People with an IQ above the negative should deal with this - if FLA were sensible they'd have gagged you ages ago. The remnants of EE were removed by FLA + allies late last year - it was discussed within FLA about expanding into the then void in PB which was at the time not endorsed nor supported by FLA's ruling body at that time. Just because FLA have decided they can claim something verbally does not chance the reality. You need combat pilots and dreads if you wish to lay claim and it'll be an interesting sight to behold i'm sure. /me suggests this moves from here to an appropriate thread in another forum. sorry but EE was largely a non issue by the time their medium pos was put into reinforced..by FLA and some allies their clearing out for the most part was accomplished by Eliptika and FoF.. before this happened.. I'm sure EE will remember who it was that fought them every single day.. Narny knew that those territories were FLA territories when he left, it was stated so in the forums, the leadership at the time put residency on a back burner for the time being.. If you wish to have a residency progam extended to you there, I'm sure contacting the proper people will help in this. Not sure why there is flammage, I have smacked no one here, just stating the facts. I believe an official statement was made by FLA's leader. everything else said here is semantics anyhow.. Actually Goca, there were several EE pos's removed. And they were removed under my leadership while I was in Ekliptika. I invited Narny (FLA at the time now Nxt Alliance) to come to the party. They did. FLA's presence was purely invitational. And besides... FLA's theory that they have rights to this constellation is mute considering the two major FLA corps that were involved are no longer in FLA.. one is in Nxt Level Alliance now.. The other is not alligned with any alliance. GOCA and his corp in FLA (Steel Frontier) were knowingly and willingly recruiting isk farmers to make hundreds of millions of isk off of ratting revenues.. That corp occupied part of this constellation alongside with Eternal Empire at the time. Goca's corp was removed from Ekliptika (ok.. it left.. Willingly to get away from being forcefully forced out).. Basically Steel Frontier and FLA have no business or rights to this space since they left to FLA territory long ago. FLA cant defend its existing space from a force 1/9th its size without its allies to save it - what does it think its doing expanding into places it doesnt belong?
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.17 22:11:00 - [1079] hmm.. interesting "viewpoint" on things, well guess we'll see what happens then... I is Goca
Cupdeez Vengeance of the Fallen Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:09:00 - [1080] Originally by: Pepperami Originally by: Cupdeez Cult of war contesting GW ROFL.. how many COW's were on the carrier kill 4 out of 20? Yes, COW has a few nano ships that run around ganging people that we can't catch but if this is the case then you can say CA is contesting all of 0.0. lol! Another CA fool posting in the Map thread? Are you the actual diplomat this time? We are not contesting. We asked for a warmarker. Can we PLEASE have a CA diplomat that can read? It's that or I'll be demanding to talk to the grown ups.. Sure calling people names makes you look really good. War and contesting an area is pretty much the same thing to me. Sorry if you we disagree a little bit. If a few nano ships running around killing a few ships counts as a war then that is fine. Every time we come after COW they just run right back into empire 100% of the time. That is not war to me. If you want a war bring a fleet of 30-40 Ships. Signature filesize exceeds max limit of 24000 bytes. Mail us if you have questions -Eldo Davip

Roland 99 Minmatar Battlestars Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:44:00 - [1081] Edited by: Roland 99 on 17/02/2007 23:43:05 Yet again we make a special trip to GW today to pay the CoWards a visit and they run to empire with their tails between their legs like the coward dogs they are, even to the point of leaving dictor bubbles in their wave 100k from the gates. You animals want a war? You are about to get all you want. We simply have bigger fish to fry ATM. There will be a sale on T-bone steaks in GW very soon if anyone's interested _______
Pepperami Art of War Cult of War	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:57:00 - [1082] Originally by: Cupdeez Sure calling people names makes you look really good. War and contesting an area is pretty much the same thing to me. Sorry if you we disagree a little bit. If a few nano ships running around killing a few ships counts as a war then that is fine. Every time we come after COW they just run right back into empire 100% of the time. That is not war to me. If you want a war bring a fleet of 30-40 Ships. So you ARE the CA representative, then? War and contesting is not the same, why would there be different markers if they were? We don't want your space, we want to inflict damage on you and add to your internal problems. We are succeeding. We are responsible for a massive amount of damage to CA, as previously outlined and showed. We restrict your operations in Great Wildlands, we upset your members and we get a hell of a lot of kill mails. If you believe all we do is fly nano ships then you are as mis-informed as the last CA member to weigh in here and had to be told to stop posting by your own alliance. If all you want is to belittle us, then anyone need only look at your own killboard and see how out of control you are at 'home'. Also, you're just like your corp mate in being plain wrong and/or lying in this thread. Now instead of whining either graciously accept the war marker or stop us killing you. At the moment I think you're incapable of either. [EVE TASK BAR?]
Elfaen Ethenwe Eternal Rising	Posted - 2007.02.17 23:58:00 - [1083] alliances would massivly benifit from controlling the members on the forum. especially in this thred. can i ask from a neutral point of view for an fla diplomat or alliance leader to ask weather pure blind needs to be set as a conflict zone? or nxt lvl? Fla please start a new thred if you wish to make yourself look stupid logoffski is bad mmmk?
w0rmy Intensive CareBearz	Posted - 2007.02.18 03:51:00 - [1084] Originally by: Pepperami Now instead of whining either graciously accept the war marker or stop us killing you. At the moment I think you're incapable of either. Without a war dec, killing you in empire is difficult. However, I agree, you deserve a war marker.
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.18 05:17:00 - [1085] Originally by: El*** Ethenwe* alliances would massivly benifit from controlling the members on the forum. especially in this thred. can i ask from a neutral point of view for an fla diplomat or alliance leader to ask weather pure blind needs to be set as a conflict zone? or nxt lvl? Fla please start a new thred if you wish to make yourself look stupid Daedal president of FLA.. Posted - 2007.02.17 02:43:00 - [231] - Quote -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- FLA would like to reiterate its claim to the following constellations: MDM8-J and U8-CWA They have been FLA territory for some time, and now that Pure Blind is having claims made to it we would like it to be noted that is is part of our territory. FLA One nuff said.. I is Goca
Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.18 08:25:00 - [1086] As much as you like to think your important Goca, you are not. In fact i've just been told by an official FLA diplomat your not even supposed to be talking on behalf of FLA, and you are indeed causing more problems and loosing FLA more face than is needed. So... in light of this shut up, get me a diplo, and go back to your hole.
Daedal Virtu Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.18 09:43:00 - [1087] FLA is withdrawing its claim on MDM8-J and U8-CWA. NXT Level and Freelancer Alliance have come to a private agreement on the systems to prevent any further hostilities. NXT Level now has sovereignty over those systems. Good luck with keeping the pipe clean guys. Make the area safer for everyone. FLA One http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/ <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.18 12:26:00 - [1088] THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSSION THREAD
NereSky Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.18 13:57:00 - [1089] Originally by: Blue Stratos THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSSION THREAD Im sure the mods can handle it , so basicaly keep your nose out :P
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.18 17:28:00 - [1090] Originally by: Midiana As much as you like to think your important Goca, you are not. In fact i've just been told by an official FLA diplomat your not even supposed to be talking on behalf of FLA, and you are indeed causing more problems and loosing FLA more face than is needed. So... in light of this shut up, get me a diplo, and go back to your hole. dude.. be glad you are still blue... I is Goca

Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.02.18 20:57:00 - [1091] Man those grapes must be sour...
Goca Minmatar Steel Frontier	Posted - 2007.02.18 23:26:00 - [1092] Originally by: Midiana Man those grapes must be sour... keep it up, please.. I is Goca
Nesa Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.19 00:57:00 - [1093] Originally by: Qorrin Just had one thing to point out on Geminate. JE1 and 9P40 are now under HellHound Soveriegnty and Pure has been kicked out of Geminate along with their vassal Astral Wolves. Would greatly like to see Hellhounds Sov shown on the territorial map as we take more systems. Should see us popping up all over former Pure and AW systems in Geminate. -Q I believe SMASH still claim the entire 74IL constellation, including JE1, despite soverignty. Please take it up with Peoke if you believe differently. Geminate can have the warzone marker removed however. RK/Hellhounds/SMASH are now NAP with Pure. I'll leave it to HH/RK to squabble over who actually claims the portion of Geminate Pure has withdrawn from. (Pure. withdraw all claims to Geminate as per terms of the NAP.)
Blue Stratos Amarr BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.19 03:15:00 - [1094] Originally by: NereSky Originally by: Blue Stratos THIS IS NOT A DISCUSSSION THREAD Im sure the mods can handle it , so basicaly keep your nose out :P Hush Morsus Tehee boy
Kadarin Wolfenrecon	Posted - 2007.02.19 04:16:00 - [1095] Suggestion for the mapmaker: For clarity, it might be a worthwhile thing to point out where on the map larger vassal alliances reside. It might clutter up the map too much, but on the other hand, it could help everyone understand the political situation better. Anyway, it's just a suggestion..
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.19 11:31:00 - [1096] @ the SMASH andHH guy who posted: With all due respect, it is not your place neither to disclose RK/HH/Smash/Pure/AW diplomatic relationships on public boards, nor to make claims on behalf of your alliances based on bad information and playerbase babble. Please consult your superiors for further information regarding this issue. Please refrain from possting on this thread unless you've been asked to do so by your superiors. Also, please refrain from making remarks such as "threw them out" or "forced them out" etc - The Pure Campaign ended with a smile and a handshake, and not with dramatic and heroic victory over ebil forces. Diplomacy 4tw. jesus. Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Daedal Virtu Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.20 00:19:00 - [1097] Originally by: Midiana Man those grapes must be sour... Dont give me any more reasons to regret my decision. Intentionally aggravating us will not help your situation. Dont push it, sooner or later we wont be worrying about BoB. FLA One http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/ <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.20 18:53:00 - [1098] Edited by: Dungar Loghoth on 20/02/2007 18:49:28 We are now contesting Tenerifis in addition to Detorid. LV is in the process of losing their capital system (JV1V) in addition to one of the outposts next door (9-9). You can mark Omist whatever you want - we do not have towers up in the region, but sovereignty has dropped several times from station systems in the region (we have flipped a station once) and we have general run of the region. ---- "I've never cheated, I've never witnessed those I fly with, cheat and I guarentee you that if I DID witness such a thing I would be first in line to petition it." - Dianabolic
Drantis J.H.E.N.R Pure.	Posted - 2007.02.20 23:33:00 - [1099] Originally by: Qorrin Just had one thing to point out on Geminate. JE1 and 9P40 are now under HellHound Soveriegnty and Pure has been kicked out of Geminate along with their vassal Astral Wolves. Would greatly like to see Hellhounds Sov shown on the territorial map as we take more systems. Should see us popping up all over former Pure and AW systems in Geminate. -Q LOL Saw this..came down of the ceiling then read ORC's post...Thanks for the quick tug on the lead mate.. :)
Nesa Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.22 06:38:00 - [1100] Edited by: Nesa on 22/02/2007 06:34:45 I am authorized to post on behalf of SMASH and have the highest level of access to information. (This doesn't mean I know all or am always right) However this was all negotiated by RK/Pure. and they are authorative on any of these matters. SMASH welcomes friendship with our neighbours. Congratulations to Pure. and RK for reaching an agreement. Now, with respect to the map, and SMASH's viewpoint. SMASH Claims the 74IL constellation, no more, no less. And the warzone marker for Geminate really needs to go. It's had less firefights in it in the last few weeks than most 0.0 regions see in an hour.

DOGNOSH Minmatar Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.22 10:21:00 - [1101] nice work joshua -------------------------
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.22 12:22:00 - [1102] Map update delayed by a few days, need to sort out some RL stuff atm. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
Narciss Sevar Caldari Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion	Posted - 2007.02.22 19:32:00 - [1103] Joshua add -10(pandemic legion) to the list of alliances fighting LV. ---- Sig removed, lacks Eve-related content. If you would like further details please mail [email protected] -Targoviste
Freaky Bare Minmatar Blueprint Haus Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.23 11:32:00 - [1104] Vale of the Silent is NOT controlled solely by Pure. All the alliances there are friendly to each other - but they are seperate alliances. As a lowly soldier I have no idea what the exact boundaries should be. I am not an Alt, I am ...really, really FUGLY!
Orc A Interstellar eXodus R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.23 14:20:00 - [1105] Quote: As a lowly soldier I have no idea what the exact boundaries should be. ...then you should not be posting in this thread... Originally by: End Yourself hey! we are BoB's lapdogs! not Oberon's or ASCN's!!!
Midshipman Merch Industrial	Posted - 2007.02.23 19:19:00 - [1106] I just wanted to point out that the maps for 20.11.108 and 20.07.108 are missing from Eve-Files. Also, while the link for 10.07.108 is missing, the file is still there if you punch in the url yourself. Thanks for making this resource available.

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.02.23 20:52:00 - [1107] Thread has receveived a bit of a scrubbing. Let's go over a few things again; if you are not the official diplomat of your alliance, chosen to post in this thread, please don't post. If you disagree with topics related to the map; have your diplomat contact the mapmaker. Posting will only be considered off topic and removed. Also; there's no need to post your support of a claim or likewise; it's off topic. There's the rest of CAOD to discuss; please leave this to be a resource and not another discussion thread. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Eclipsia Minmatar	Posted - 2007.02.25 00:02:00 - [1108] If anyone can update the .gif, that'd be nice
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.25 12:58:00 - [1109] Theres a .gif? ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
Nore Khadafi Minmatar Merch Industrial We Are Nice Guys	Posted - 2007.02.25 14:36:00 - [1110] Quote: . Animated Territorial Map (.GIF @ 1.7Mb).

Lireil Crow DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.26 20:19:00 - [1111] http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0702/galactic_political__arena26.2.07.jpg requesting replacing this map with goons map.
Max Haines Madcat Corp	Posted - 2007.02.26 22:19:00 - [1112] I like Joshua doing it as he has shown honesty and many have grown to trust his maps. However I agree that while major offensives take place as they are presently, more regular updates are necessary.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.26 22:55:00 - [1113] Originally by: Lireil Crow http://dl.eve-files.com/media/0702/galactic_political__arena26.2.07.jpg requesting replacing this map with goons map. [email protected]. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
0ss0	Posted - 2007.02.27 01:35:00 - [1114] Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 01:35:05 Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 01:33:57 Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 01:33:07 In the Great Wildlands... FOUNDATION is contesting Curse Alliance http://foundation.laurifermilitis.com/?a=cc_detail&ctr_id=2
Ritchler Gallente BOOM - Gotcha	Posted - 2007.02.27 12:25:00 - [1115] Originally by: 0ss0 Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 02:00:15 Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 01:59:11 In the Great Wildlands... FOUNDATION is contesting Curse Alliance Proof I mean no offnce but that is just a bunch of random kills spread over a three week period, put down possess and kill son cap's and we mite take your seriously
0ss0 Minmatar 132nd Thukker Brigade FOUNDATI0N	Posted - 2007.02.27 15:00:00 - [1116] Edited by: 0ss0 on 27/02/2007 15:02:31 offense? You do not offend me, yet... FOUNDATION, on friday night last, destroyed a POS of CA. So I assume we now qualify for addition, in your opinion? FOUNDATION Kill Board
Sister Chang	Posted - 2007.02.27 17:17:00 - [1117] Originally by: Lireil Crow requesting replacing this map with goons map. You re funny, look like a child... A guy takes some of his time to upgrade a map since months and months and today stupid mofo like u "requesting replacing with goons map" just cause there is a big war, one guy from your side build a map and 1/1000 of the Joshua map is not like you want. Pathetic. Are you sure goons will continue to upgrade the map after the war? Are you still sure about that in case they lose the war? Think then write.
Graalum Foundation R0ADKILL	Posted - 2007.02.27 19:18:00 - [1118] Foundation(allaince) is fighting curse alliance in geminate? Please fix geminate thanks, ingame map sovereignty should be a quick clue. There should be no warmarker.
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.27 20:36:00 - [1119] So I make a claim on behalf of my alliance, no one challenges it, you never speak to me or anyone in my alliance about said claim, and then you just do whatever you want with the map anyway? If are you going to base the map solely on system sovereignty, there's not much of a point to this thread, is there? I can get the same information from the in-game map without the bull****. This map is supposed to reflect what is actually happening in-game and on the ground, and while I can understand you can't be everywhere at once, when you actively refuse to incorporate an unchallenged claim into your update, people start to question your motivations. ---- "I've never cheated, I've never witnessed those I fly with, cheat and I guarentee you that if I DID witness such a thing I would be first in line to petition it." - Dianabolic
Dungar Loghoth Caldari GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.02.27 20:36:00 - [1120] So I make a claim on behalf of my alliance, no one challenges it, you never speak to me or anyone in my alliance about said claim, and then you just do whatever you want with the map anyway? If are you going to base the map solely on system sovereignty, there's not much of a point to this thread, is there? I can get the same information from the in-game map without the bull****. This map is supposed to reflect what is actually happening in-game and on the ground, and while I can understand you can't be everywhere at once, when you actively refuse to incorporate an unchallenged claim into your update, people start to question your motivations. ---- "I've never cheated, I've never witnessed those I fly with, cheat and I guarentee you that if I DID witness such a thing I would be first in line to petition it." - Dianabolic

Azax	Posted - 2007.02.27 21:09:00 - [1121] I don't know what kind of game OssO is playing and on which tittle he is posting that kind of intell ... I'm FDN CEO and i don't contest anything. Acting over my back is not allowed and OssO got a warning. Thanks to take that note officialy. Sincerly. DeeJunky (FDN CEO)
DeeJunky	Posted - 2007.02.27 21:17:00 - [1122] Originally by: Azax I don't know what kind of game OssO is playing and on which tittle he is posting that kind of intell ... I'm FDN CEO and i don't contest anything. Acting over my back is not allowed and OssO got a warning. Thanks to take that note officialy. Sincerly. DeeJunky (FDN CEO)
Johnatan VVS Corporition Against ALL Authorities	Posted - 2007.02.27 22:07:00 - [1123] Joshua, please... Against ALL Authorities Thank you. /me delete this after fix. ---- start cut here ---- Evil Thug`s alt. ----- end cut here -----
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.02.27 22:36:00 - [1124] Edited by: Joshua Foiritain on 27/02/2007 22:33:47 Originally by: Dungar Loghoth So I make a claim on behalf of my alliance, no one challenges it, you never speak to me or anyone in my alliance about said claim, and then you just do whatever you want with the map anyway? If are you going to base the map solely on system sovereignty, there's not much of a point to this thread, is there? I can get the same information from the in-game map without the bull****. This map is supposed to reflect what is actually happening in-game and on the ground, and while I can understand you can't be everywhere at once, when you actively refuse to incorporate an unchallenged claim into your update, people start to question your motivations. Maybe you should double check if your browser is showing you the old or new map before complaining. You'll find the new one indeed does contain the requests you made above. Warzones 8 and 10 will be corrected when i come home tomorrow. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
Ron Simon Shiva Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.02.27 22:51:00 - [1125] About #7. It's actually IRON, Razor, Morsus Mihi and Pure. vs. FIX in Querious; not just IRON.
Grant Smith Infinitus Odium Curse Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.27 23:33:00 - [1126] Originally by: 0ss0 In the Great Wildlands... FOUNDATION is contesting Curse Alliance Proof It looks good - but don't forget to add your losses
munchy Prison Break Inc.	Posted - 2007.02.28 06:56:00 - [1127] Edited by: munchy on 28/02/2007 06:52:38 Originally by: Grant Smith Originally by: 0ss0 In the Great Wildlands... FOUNDATION is contesting Curse Alliance Proof It looks good - but don't forget to add your losses same can be said for your board, along with every other killboard in eve. ---
Minigin Caldari Zephyr Enterprises Inc. Astral Wolves	Posted - 2007.02.28 07:36:00 - [1128] pure has withdrawn from geminate. there is no longer war between pure and smash/rk
Krychton Omerta Syndicate Exuro Mortis	Posted - 2007.02.28 08:07:00 - [1129] Josh you do a great job. Keep up the good work. ---- Krychton 065 If this is all a dream, don't wake me up.
Moloc Antares Fleet Yards SMASH Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 10:27:00 - [1130] It's quite apparent Josh doesn't read this thread. It has been stated for the last FOUR. Updates that RATEL are no longer in geminate, and for the last two weeks that Pure. and RK/HH/SMASH are friendly. Nothing has been changed. I give up.

Kusotarre Cutting Edge Incorporated RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 10:29:00 - [1131] Warzone 7 should be IRON, RZR, PURE, RAWR vs. BoB, FIX. I hope this isn't seen as a flame, but BoB does nearly all of the meaningful fighting in Querious against Northern alliance.
Kagura Nikon Minmatar MASS HOMICIDE FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.02.28 10:29:00 - [1132] And some of the systems FREGE has sov are still missing (just restating that last statement from our leader asking for correction, is still unadressed) If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!!
fugazii Forsaken Empire	Posted - 2007.02.28 21:26:00 - [1133] Originally by: Moloc It's quite apparent Josh doesn't read this thread. It has been stated for the last FOUR. Updates that RATEL are no longer in geminate, and for the last two weeks that Pure. and RK/HH/SMASH are friendly. Nothing has been changed. I give up. you need to post it with a bob tag on for him to listen.
Joshua Foiritain Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2007.03.01 00:42:00 - [1134] I could have sworn i saw Ratel sov dots ingame, however upon closer inspection i was wrong and it'll be corrected soon. ----- $Forum + $Bob + $Devs == $ForumPostCount+++++;
QwaarJet Gallente Rage of Angels Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2007.03.01 19:08:00 - [1135] On the latest update : Get your facts straight. Warzone 7 is NOT Iron VS FIX, unless of course RAZOR, MM, Pure, Triumvirate etc are just dreaming that they are in Querious. Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. "Hobbes, she stepped into the Perimeter Of Wisdom.Run!"
Aurel Senia The Fayth	Posted - 2007.03.01 20:09:00 - [1136] Originally by: QwaarJet Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. That would be difficult to prove, considering all of your POS have either been destroyed or are in reinforced, and you hold no stations.
Khirzan Wolfson The Taining corp Knights Of the Southerncross	Posted - 2007.03.01 22:07:00 - [1137] JOSH, KOS now has taken the 2 upper Tenerifis stations and ISS has removed all claim to them and surrendered to KOS. Please show the upper half of tenerifis in KOS control, more expansion soon to follow Thanks bud, -Khirzan Wolfson Co-Ceo,The Taining Corp
ArcticFox Dirty Deeds Corp. Axiom Empire	Posted - 2007.03.01 23:13:00 - [1138] Originally by: QwaarJet Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. Good luck with that. ASCN barely managed to get a tiny cube in the middle of Fountain marked as contested after seiging for weeks and actually getting sovreignty up on an outpost system (yes, I know it was taken back). I haven't seen any non-BoB-allied lights go up anywhere in fountain yet and only saw Sov go down on one BoB system for a couple days (then promptly back up), so I wouldn't count on anything getting marked contested. (Note: I'm not saying it shouldn't I'm simply stating that I doubt it will.) Some clarification on what exactly has to be acheived to get contested marks on this semi-official map would be nice. As it stands we don't really have any exact criteria, and the mapmaker is not exactly in a neutral position for the judgement argument (note, I'm techincally fighting on the same side as he is right now, so tinfoil hat comments get you nowhere). -------------------------- There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it.
Smilinjack Amarr New Genesis Project	Posted - 2007.03.02 03:15:00 - [1139] Quote: On the latest update : Get your facts straight. Warzone 7 is NOT Iron VS FIX, unless of course RAZOR, MM, Pure, Triumvirate etc are just dreaming that they are in Querious. Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. Considering that 9CG has fallen and BoB no longer hold a station system in Querious, the above is fairly accurate.
Proxay Gallente Fallen Angel's Xelas Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.02 05:26:00 - [1140] Edited by: Proxay on 02/03/2007 05:23:18 Originally by: QwaarJet On the latest update : Get your facts straight. Warzone 7 is NOT Iron VS FIX, unless of course RAZOR, MM, Pure, Triumvirate etc are just dreaming that they are in Querious. Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. Who put you in charge of D2/Bob map declarations? Leave it to the proper diplomats who are in fountain; since there's no d2 sovreignty, there's no contestion, hell, I wouldn't even put warzone...not enough fighting. Edit: forgot a key word

Chirinako Caldari Legionari Firmus Ixion	Posted - 2007.03.02 09:23:00 - [1141] Originally by: QwaarJet On the latest update : Get your facts straight. Warzone 7 is NOT Iron VS FIX, unless of course RAZOR, MM, Pure, Triumvirate etc are just dreaming that they are in Querious. Also, I would personally say Fountain and Querious are contested. ^On that point, if the rest of the coalition forces attacking Querious are getting a mention, Gunboat Diplomacy and Digital Fury Corp should get a mention because they're as active in Querious Defence as Fix is right now.
Daxit Caldari Lynx Frontier Inc. Sparta Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 00:51:00 - [1142] Edited by: Daxit on 03/03/2007 00:50:28 can you add Sparta to the list attacking BoB in fountain?
RedSwarm One GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:05:00 - [1143] http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=485203 Could the GS map get a sticky alongside Joshua's?
Esurnir Amarr Bears Inc FREGE Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.03 22:19:00 - [1144] To be fair with our neighboors, I think you should add the 1-evax 3 star cluster as ratel space. Even if they have no stations whatsoever, for now it's their home system, and that's afaik not contested by anyone ---- Quote: Thou shall pew pew. Book of Revelation 12, 51
TJ17 Gallente DaRk MaTtEr INC. Hydra Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.04 19:51:00 - [1145] heyy josh how come u dont list all alliances space like in this map http://dl.eve-files.com/media/corp/UNL/influence.png ur map would be so uber if u did

Ivan Kirilenkov Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.05 13:21:00 - [1146] Thread cleaned; please email us if you have questions and/or requests regarding other maps. forum rules \| [email protected] \| Our Website

Patricko Tandbergo	Posted - 2007.03.06 01:55:00 - [1147] Edited by: Patricko Tandbergo on 06/03/2007 01:52:27 I think smaller alliances should be shown like that one persons idea, but 'within' the terratory of a larger power they are part of (if any). And mabey draw a border between the BoB alliance, and the Goon Colilition. So you can see a genral grouping of sides working togeather and where the battlefront is in space. Both maping systems have advantages, its good to know about the smaller corps, but its still important to see the clumping of major powers.
Daedal Virtu Freelancer Alliance	Posted - 2007.03.06 02:11:00 - [1148] You might want to note FLA is also fighting in fountain. FLA One http://fla.killerspace.com/forum/ <No tree's were harmed during this transmission. However, a great number of electrons were terribly inconvenienced>
Midiana Nexus Legion NxT LeveL	Posted - 2007.03.06 12:30:00 - [1149] Go FLA !

Serathu Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.03.07 06:06:00 - [1150] This thread has had a good long run and has served the community well. However, we now have more mapmakers on the scene and in the interests of providing a central resource containing all published maps the decision has been made to replace this with a new thread that fulfils exactly that role. EVE Territorial Maps To stop this thread from being brought back from the dead, I'm going to lock it here. \| Forum Rules \| CAOD Rules \| CRC Website \| [email protected] \|




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