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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:15:00 -
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Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:We have literally caught them in the act in a video. I hate to be a pedant, but your use of the word "literally" would imply that the video showed the cause rather than the consequence. Probably is bowling .. but no way to know for sure without actually seeing it happen. Does the cut first part of the vid exist somewhere? Wouldn't it be better to post the "proof" rather than just make people speculate as to the cause? The fact that the video doesn't cover the whole event is likely to make people sceptical, or at least suspicious as to the motivation of this thread.
Nice to see you around again Kerr.
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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:18:00 -
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Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11164
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:18:00 -
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Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:You dont need to see the bump, Well, you kinda do if you are touting the vid as proof. The bump could have happened just inside or just outside of the shield .. I guess we will never know. Why would someone bump a titan into a POS rather than use their DD? Why is it so hard for people to backtrack these ships to the point of impact? Maybe the bump was unintentional? Who knows? Got some proof? Why is it hard to backtrack? It isn't, but equally it isn't conclusive. It is almost as if you are being intentionally evasive. Why is it so hard to post the start of the video?
Its not our video, its theirs.
its also 100% accurate to draw a line based on their movement because they cannot turn. We can, with 100% accuracy see where the ships collided based on their movement.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:21:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie.
I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line.
I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. This is a big deal because damn near every bridging titan sits just inside the shield and by the sounds of it PL is pulling the same trick. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:23:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can.
Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE.
And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4494
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:24:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: We have literally caught them in the act in a video. Well, first you need to actually catch them in the act on video. We can see where they came from. We can see what happened. You dont need to see the bump, we can see the results and work out their positions based on their movements. right now you are trying to defend the use of an exploit after being shown an exploit being used. Do you honestly need us to draw lines showing you the movement of these ships?
Whoa there, I'm not defending anyone, but like I said, you need to show me some actual evidence before I start crying foul. If you can draw those lines of yours using data points that CCP provides, that would be pretty damning.
But, you don't have that data, CCP does, and the more you go on the more I'm inclined to believe that CCP has already rendered their decision on this.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:28:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Yes, if someone posts a video of roughly the same type as in the OP that doesn't show you actually breaking any rules, but does show you killing an N3 titan, I will have a thorough laugh at the loser's expense.
Not that my opinion matters. Really only CCP's opinion matters, and they have access to the logged physical data. Maybe you should petition it, although I'm guessing you already did at the time and didn't like their answer. If that's true, it really doesn't bode well for your case, does it? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:29:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE. And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man.
Generally this is the only way they will respond. Just look at that godawful E1 ragenought as an example. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Master Flakattack
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:29:00 -
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You are blind or willfully denying a blatant exploit if you think that wasn't a POS bowl. That's clear as day. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:30:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Yes, if someone posts a video of roughly the same type as in the OP that doesn't show you actually breaking any rules, but does show you killing an N3 titan, I will have a thorough laugh at the loser's expense. Not that my opinion matters. Really only CCP's opinion matters, and they have access to the logged physical data. Maybe you should petition it, although I'm guessing you already did at the time and didn't like their answer. If that's true, it really doesn't bode well for your case, does it?
If thats the case then we have a green light to bump titans out of POS. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:31:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE. And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. Generally this is the only way they will respond. Just look at that godawful E1 ragenought as an example.
Good luck storming the castle!
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Yes, if someone posts a video of roughly the same type as in the OP that doesn't show you actually breaking any rules, but does show you killing an N3 titan, I will have a thorough laugh at the loser's expense. Not that my opinion matters. Really only CCP's opinion matters, and they have access to the logged physical data. Maybe you should petition it, although I'm guessing you already did at the time and didn't like their answer. If that's true, it really doesn't bode well for your case, does it? If thats the case then we have a green light to bump titans out of POS. That's not what I said but OK. You have my approval to bump titans, for whatever **** that's worth lol. |
The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE. And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. Generally this is the only way they will respond. Just look at that godawful E1 ragenought as an example.
They reply to petitions but reimbursement requests go in the "we'll get to this next month" pile. Are you getting antsy because you haven't had a reply in x weeks? Because they will ALWAYS reply with SOMETHING eventually.
Also - Does anyone have a link to where CCP actually state that this is an exploit. Not that "bypassing pos shields" article either since its so horrendously vague, but where they SPECIFICALLY STATE that a Titan sticking out of a pos shield whilst technically "inside" it is not to be bumped? Because technically if part of the titan is outside the shields and you bump it you haven't "bypassed" this shields, in my view anyway. |
Avon
213
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:33:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: We can, with 100% accuracy see where the ships collided based on their movement.
No, we can't
I can see where they cyno'd in. Doesn't look all that close to the tower, somewhere between 45 & 60km out. |
GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
94
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:35:00 -
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Objectively, that video is completely worthless. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:35:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Why the **** are you trying to persuade pubbies about us being exploited? THEY DON'T CARE. And CCP aren't going to reply on matters of policy in a thread. File a petition. God damn man. Generally this is the only way they will respond. Just look at that godawful E1 ragenought as an example. Good luck storming the castle!
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:37:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:
Also - Does anyone have a link to where CCP actually state that this is an exploit. .
This is it I believe.
http://community.eveonline.com/news/news-channels/eve-online-news/exploit-notification-forcefield-access/?_ga=1.164118527.173669499.1363124798 The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: When you look back over the last few years you see a lot of exploits and game imbalances have been fixed thanks to our efforts.
Yes, but you typically provided a larger body of evidence, generally of a higher quality than this. (hint, hint )
Good luck either way. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4496
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:40:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:
When you look back over the last few years you see a lot of exploits and game imbalances have been fixed thanks to our efforts. used by us.
Yeah, but that does not really have anything to do with having any irrefutable evidence to back up the OP today does it?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:41:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:Dear lord baltec you sound like a wailing pubbie. I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line. I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can. Yes, if someone posts a video of roughly the same type as in the OP that doesn't show you actually breaking any rules, but does show you killing an N3 titan, I will have a thorough laugh at the loser's expense. Not that my opinion matters. Really only CCP's opinion matters, and they have access to the logged physical data. Maybe you should petition it, although I'm guessing you already did at the time and didn't like their answer. If that's true, it really doesn't bode well for your case, does it? If thats the case then we have a green light to bump titans out of POS. That's not what I said but OK. You have my approval to bump titans, for whatever **** that's worth lol.
If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:43:00 -
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I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit? |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:43:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote:
When you look back over the last few years you see a lot of exploits and game imbalances have been fixed thanks to our efforts. used by us.
Yeah, but that does not really have anything to do with having any irrefutable evidence to back up the OP today does it?
Aside from the fact that we can see where the titans hit. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Avon
214
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game.
So, because CCP won't reimburse a titan that died in mysterious circumstances which may or may not have involved an exploit, that's a green light for you to exploit? Seems legit.
Maybe, just maybe, CCP didn't flag it because it *wasn't* an exploit?
If only you had some proof.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:44:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote: I swear, its like trying to herd cats in trying to get these people to draw a damn line.
I want to know if we can get away with using this tactic if N3 can.
Yes, if someone posts a video of roughly the same type as in the OP that doesn't show you actually breaking any rules, but does show you killing an N3 titan, I will have a thorough laugh at the loser's expense. Not that my opinion matters. Really only CCP's opinion matters, and they have access to the logged physical data. Maybe you should petition it, although I'm guessing you already did at the time and didn't like their answer. If that's true, it really doesn't bode well for your case, does it? If thats the case then we have a green light to bump titans out of POS. That's not what I said but OK. You have my approval to bump titans, for whatever **** that's worth lol. If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game. Sure, if that's what you think this means, you should totally pursue it.
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4496
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:45:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game.
I'm trying really hard to find a downside to that if the 2km is measured from the outside edge.
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Avon
214
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:46:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game.
I'm trying really hard to find a downside to that if the 2km is measured from the outside edge.
Considering the cyno is clearly way more than 2km from the edge of the shield ... |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:46:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit?
Bumping a ship inside the safety of the shields if you do not have the pos password is an exploit and a bannable offence Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
92
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:48:00 -
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Can we agree on three points here :
1/ Bumping a titan that is FULLY INSIDE a pos shield without a password IS an exploit
2/ Bumping a titan that is PARTIALLY OUTSIDE a pos shield i.e untargetable but ass sticking out IS NOT an exploit
3/ This video does not clearly show WHICH of these situations was true, in this case. |
Avon
214
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:48:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:The Slayer wrote:I mean again, nothing in this video shows that the titans butt wasn't poking out of the shields. If it was, and that is what was bumped, is that an exploit? Bumping a ship inside the safety of the shields if you do not have the pos password is an exploit and a bannable offence
Would you be so kind as to get a screengrab from the vid that shows when that happened?
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11165
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Posted - 2014.04.15 00:49:00 -
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Avon wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: If it didnt get flagged by ccp this time then it wont get flagged in the future. If CCP state that this wasnt an exploit then every titan within 2km of the shield edge is fair game.
I'm trying really hard to find a downside to that if the 2km is measured from the outside edge. Considering the cyno is clearly way more than 2km from the edge of the shield ...
So how did the titan get bumped to over 1000m/s by other titans? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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