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Seven Koskanaiken
the shadow plague Fidelas Constans
1191
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:49:00 -
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Solecist Project wrote:I haven't watched this to the end yet...
Just posting to say that, as usual, FC keeps repeating commands so often that simple typing in textchat is actually more effective.
It's hilarious. Deaf people > idiot echoing himself 10x ...
Seriously, who in his right mind wants to listen to an idiot who repeats himself over and over and over again?
Anyhow ...
In before the lock.
Why say it once clearly, when you can say it twice quickly.
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Freakdevil
Aliastra Gallente Federation
108
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:50:00 -
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Rainbow Dash wrote:I think there's a reason they conveniently edited out the beginning of the video where they cyno'd in.
ding ding ding, we have a winner.
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Yarda Black
Epidemic. Nulli Secunda
126
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:51:00 -
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Death to the CFC !!!!
( I have to say that to keep up appearances )
CCP stated they log stuff. They better be right about it, cos if they''re not their credibility dies so hard exploits will rise alot. I bought that statement and I expect it to be true. So we'll see an answer by combining the information of various websites soon enough.
Two things:
1. We have the titanpilot being pro and moving on. As in, he flew what he could afford to lose. Filing a petition for a 100+ bill ship? Yeah, that makes sense even if it is really only an attempt to "scam" CCP. We're talking 100+ billion. No harm in atleast trying imho. His underlings raising hell... not cool
2. If the "foul play" was indeed a blue AWOX-ing.... Goons need to stop "educating" their blues and stop spreading their philopsophy. Its catching on a little too well it seems.
Now if you'll excuse me. I need to get some popcorn and follow this soap :)
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Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20739
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:56:00 -
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Varesk wrote:You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GǪaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Magnus Cortex
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
8
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:57:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Also I am guessing CCP said no to Vees reimbursement due to the fact that a try hard forum warrior posted this with no actual proof
Today is the first day any of us have seen this video since Ncdot sat on it for a month for some odd reason
In the first frame we see Vee is moving at 1138m/s and all but one of the 12 NC. titans are moving above 1000m/s with 4 moving above 2000m/s. The ~1000m/s matches the bump speed under normal circumstances, but the 2000m/s indicates something more.
The 4 titans that bumped the hardest (2000+m/s) were 3 Erebi and 1 Avatar which is the exact composition of the group that was heading opposite from Mr. Vee (1:20). These titans also appear farther from the cyno than the rest of their fleet.
The longer travel distance, direction of travel, and matching ship composition to those titans that were above 2000m/s strongly indicates that these ships were inside the pos shield and bumped the Avatar of Mr. Vee.
Why all these 1000m/s bumps if he was sticking out to begin with? OR they had access. Why not bump him like 2 meters forward and out the shield? Why bump him to the opposite side of the pos unless they didnt have a choice? Had to cyno in and cross their fingers that he would bump out the other side.. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1837
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Posted - 2014.04.14 18:58:00 -
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titans don't "drift" at 900 m/s jesus christ npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Anslo
Scope Works
4860
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:00:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Varesk wrote:You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GǪaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields. This. Tippia and I rarely ever agree...on anything. However, you ain't moving a titan at 900 m/s even IF its pilot decided to be potato and try to make his titan cosplay as a kitey ship to hero solo the enemy fleet.
It just doesn't happens.
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Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5260
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:08:00 -
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CCP has logs.
You will get reimbursed or you will be laughed at by the GMs.
Ether way, whining like a bee ***** accomplishes nothing.
Mr Epeen There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
184
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:10:00 -
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You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.
It's what we all live for. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1837
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:18:00 -
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and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
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Arsine Mayhem
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
185
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:19:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished
Oh, moar crying. I like that. |
Richard Desturned
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
1837
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:21:00 -
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i like how you, the npc alt n3 cheerleader, conveniently ignore when your team got its **** pushed in in B-R
that must have really made you upset heh npc alts have no opinions worth consideration |
Anslo
Scope Works
4860
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:22:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished It's **** like this that makes people ignore the logic of this situation and simply tell you to HTFU. Who cares if it's an exploit when Grr Goons, amirite?
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4454
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:24:00 -
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Setting up some buckets for later collection while I go out and buy popcorn.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
Mag's
the united SCUM.
17060
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:27:00 -
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Nicely edited out pos bowl. I hope they get a ban tbh, if found to have used that exploit.
Destination SkillQueue:- It's like assuming the lions will ignore you in the savannah, if you're small, fat and look helpless. |
Tesco Ergo Sum
79
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:32:00 -
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Arsine Mayhem wrote:You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.
It's what we all live for.
Your sentence needs shortening...
Arsine Mayhem wrote:You can always count on goon crying when they lose a ship.
becomes
You can always count on goon crying |
PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1373
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:33:00 -
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CCP, give free Titan pls. |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
677
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Posted - 2014.04.14 19:58:00 -
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Generic5Guy wrote:Just pointing out the video, everyone deserves to judge themselves.
Just to cite CCP:
"Attempts to bypass the game mechanics of starbase force-fields are fully visible in server logs to CCP GamesGÇÖ staff and will result in appropriate action taken against the involved user accounts as per the EVE Online Suspension and Ban Policy from here on." So did CCP find something in the logs or no?
Who has been banned? It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
Toshiro Ozuwara
Crimson Serpent Syndicate
677
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:02:00 -
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Richard Desturned wrote:and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished We're ruining your game. It didn't take long to locate the tracking beacon,-ádeep inside the quarters for sleepin' They thought they could get away-áNot today, it's not the way that this kid plays |
Varesk
Carried Hate
540
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:03:00 -
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Tippia wrote:Varesk wrote:You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GǪaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields.
Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields.
yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k.
Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error. |
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Tesco Ergo Sum
80
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:11:00 -
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Toshiro Ozuwara wrote:Richard Desturned wrote:and then we can count on pubbie trash crying about CCP kowtowing to the bad goons when these cheaters get punished We're ruining your game.
Absolutely brilliant! |
Seraphi Nephalis
Seraphi Nephalis Corporation
30
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:16:00 -
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Django Askulf wrote:
Pretty petty, and childish, if you ask me. Be a man, take the loss, go about your day.
I have to disagree. I'm still a dirty noob, so I have no stake in the discussion. But even I can see that there's enough speculation and argument on both sides from experienced and knowledgeable players that, at the very least, an investigation is warranted.
Is this the right way to go about getting such an investigation? Probably not. They should have quietly submitted their evidence to CCP. But even so, 'taking it like a man' is not the response I'd have if I suspected that an exploit was used in such an expensive battle. "What a sad world we live in, where politeness is mistaken for weakness."-á - Usagi Yojimbo |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11157
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:32:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Tippia wrote:Varesk wrote:You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GǪaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields. Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields. yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k. Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error.
CCP deemed capital pos bowling using this method an exploit something like 8 years ago. Now, if CCP are now going to allow this then be sure we will also start doing this. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20740
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:34:00 -
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Varesk wrote:Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Or, more likely, it was not sticking out and they deliberately picked an otherwise unnecessarily close point to the POS to jump to. It's especially unnecessary since doing so puts you at risk at triggering an exploit that will get you tossed out on your ears and forcing you to make up all kinds of highly unlikely explanations for what happened.
If he was sticking out, they would just have jumped in safely and DD:ed him without risking their own ships.
Quote:Which is what happened here. How do you know?
Quote:No exploits no loop holes GǪaside from the whole bumping a ship that was inside the POS shield bit.
Quote:yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out still be bumped, hence why he was bumped at over 1k. GǪand it also happens when you bump a ship that's inside the shield, so there's no -ÿhenceGÇ¥ to be drawn from the unlikely scenario you describe, but which still matches the well-known exploits.
Quote:Please dont let facts stop the GǪfeeble attempts at covering up a very blatant and obvious use of exploits. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4464
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:42:00 -
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Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11157
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:47:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.
Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone?
We even have video evidence of this exploit in progress. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
Tippia
Sunshine and Lollipops
20742
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:48:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received. Entirely possible. It doesn't make the video (and in particular its edit) any less suspect though. GÇ£If you're not willing to fight for what you have in GëívGëí you don't deserve it, and you will lose it.GÇ¥
Get a good start: Newbie skill plan 2.1. |
Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4466
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:49:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.
Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone?
True dat.
So, what was the result of the petition then?
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |
voetius
BITB Support Services
214
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Posted - 2014.04.14 20:59:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Varesk wrote:Tippia wrote:Varesk wrote:You cant see anything in that video that would remotely be called an exploit. GǪaside from an otherwise impossible velocity on a ship that can only ever really be achieved through warp- or cyno-bumping, and which just so happens to coincide with a very well-known exploit to reach through POS shields. Velocity can be achieved if part of the titan was sticking out of the POS shield and bumbed when Titans jumped in. Which is what happened here. No exploits no loop holes, just an unlucky Titan pilot that was to close to the edge of the POS shields. yes you can be in the pos and part of your titan will still stick out, hence why he was bumped at over 1k. Please dont let facts stop the crying about exploits and how CFC should never lose a Titan due to pilot error. CCP deemed capital pos bowling using this method an exploit something like 8 years ago. Now, if CCP are now going to allow this then be sure we will also start doing this.
Really? It's kind of ironic then that I first learnt about POS bowling when I was in the CFC a few years back. This was at the time of the Fountain war to evict BoB. We were dicking around in Fountain and the BoB pets were all POS'ed up when Vee said on comms that he would show us how POS bowling worked, at which my little ears perked up.
He had got hold of the POS passwords through spies and we landed in the centre of a red POS. I think the idea was that we would either bump the BoB pets out or they would change the password to eject us out at high speed which would have a small chance of us colliding with the enemy ships and bumping them out at high speed.
It was all fascinating stuff :) |
baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11157
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Posted - 2014.04.14 21:01:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:Only CCP knows what happened for sure, but after reading some of the replies I'mma going to guess that this was petitioned and is being brought to the General Drama forums only because CCPs answer was not well received.
Wouldnt be the first time CCP ignored an exploit untill we brought it to the forums. FW isk exploit anyone? True dat. So, what was the result of the petition then?
Dont even know if it has been looked into yet. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |
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