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The Slayer
Vasilkovsky Interstellar Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:35:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right? Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said" Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.
But can we agree that nowhere in the video that was posted can this be clearly seen? |

Avon
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:36:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right? Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said" Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild.
Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"? |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:36:00 -
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The Slayer wrote:baltec1 wrote:]It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online. But can we agree that nowhere in the video is this made clear? Because thats my main point of contention here.
Its why they cut off the cyno in part. Im suprised they put up what they did because even without the first few seconds we can see they are pos bowling. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Avon
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:37:00 -
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Imagine
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GreasyCarl Semah
A Game as Old as Empire
96
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:38:00 -
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Avon wrote:Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?
Game. Set. Match. |

Ninteen Seventy-Nine
Pator Tech School Minmatar Republic
36
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:39:00 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:I just wish they'd ban people for discussing open petitions and discussing exploits on the forums If every forum rule-breaking post led to a ban, there would be no one here.
Good?
I'm sure there would be plenty left.
Hell, it would probably be a good bit less of a cesspool.
That's why there are rules.
Ironic really, flaunting the violation of one set of rules while demanding others be held to another set.
I mean... it's not even the right forum area ffs.
Just "hey we feel self entitled, deal with it while we cry about our ship loss" "The unending paradox is that we do learn through pain." |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:40:00 -
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Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right? Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said" Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild. Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"?
We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself. Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Avon
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:43:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
I wouldn't be making excuses if the video showed that they exploited. Exploits are bad.
I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you. |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4500
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:45:00 -
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baltec1 wrote: We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I did not see your fleet in that video either. The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5261
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:46:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: It was fully inside, there was an EG op which is why it was online.
I'm sure you can back that up, with a video or something, right? Because, otherwise, it is kinda like "he said, she said" Fleets dont have access to the titan pos. As such you always get ships that will try to be at 0 on a bridging titan, these ships will nudge any titan into a pos sheild if it is any closer than the edge of the pos sheild. Is that the long way of saying "No, I cannot prove my assertion"? We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh. I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
Only one beetard making excuses. Everyone else is simply asking you to show an actual as opposed to extrapolated infraction.
You are not doing that.
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |
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Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4500
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:47:00 -
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Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you.
He's gotta be account sharing, or loaded.
Because I can draw a line to that conclusion, or something.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Avon
218
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:48:00 -
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I'm going for a nice cup of tea and a chocolate biscuit.
Someone shout up if any actual evidence arrives. |

Mr Epeen
It's All About Me
5261
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:49:00 -
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Avon wrote:
Someone shout up if any actual evidence arrives.
*crickets*
Mr Epeen  There are 86,400 seconds in a day. You just saved one of them by typing 'u' instead of 'you'.-á Congratulations, dumbass! |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:51:00 -
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Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
I wouldn't be making excuses if the video showed that they exploited. Exploits are bad. I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you.
Hard to argue a point with someone who ignores evidence put right before them. We can all see the way the ships are moving. We can all see that Vees titan wasnt outside the POS due to it not getting blown up instantly. We can all see the titans being bounced in directions and speeds that indicate a cyno bump. Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here.
If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.04.15 01:55:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I did not see your fleet in that video either.
You honestly think they would try this with a fleet still there? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4502
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:02:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I did not see your fleet in that video either. You honestly think they would try this with a fleet still there?
So, they weren't actually witnesses to the alleged act then? The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11166
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:08:00 -
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Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I did not see your fleet in that video either. You honestly think they would try this with a fleet still there? So, they weren't actually witnesses to the alleged act then?
Why are you looking for any and every excuse to have this not be an exploit?
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Travis Musgrat
BURN EDEN Northern Coalition.
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:13:00 -
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lol, I didn't know people actually used evo forums |

Doc Fury
Furious Enterprises
4502
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:14:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote:Doc Fury wrote:baltec1 wrote: We wouldnt have an entire fleet petition a titan loss if it was outside the shields, we point and laugh.
I did not see your fleet in that video either. You honestly think they would try this with a fleet still there? So, they weren't actually witnesses to the alleged act then? Why are you looking for any and every excuse to have this not be an exploit?
It's starting to make a lot of sense why CCP denied your petitions now.
The accumulated filth of all their sex and murder will foam up about their waists and all the ho's and politicians will look up and shout 'Save us!' and I'll look down, and whisper 'Hodor'. |

Dalto Bane
V I R I I Ineluctable.
66
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:18:00 -
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Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:Scipio Artelius wrote:Ninteen Seventy-Nine wrote:I just wish they'd ban people for discussing open petitions and discussing exploits on the forums If every forum rule-breaking post led to a ban, there would be no one here. Good? I'm sure there would be plenty left. Hell, it would probably be a good bit less of a cesspool. That's why there are rules. Ironic really, flaunting the violation of one set of rules while demanding others be held to another set. I mean... it's not even the right forum area ffs. Just "hey we feel self entitled, deal with it while we cry about our ship loss"
On March 30th, you made a post that discussed a petition you sent and the paraphrased response they gave. You are now referring to the moderation of this thread. Pot, meet Kettle..
Some of us find this to be an interesting topic. "Wolves don't lose sleep over the opinions of sheep." |
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Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2444
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:30:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here.
If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. .
This post shows you have absolutely zero knowledge of what POS bowling was.
Let me give you a tiny hint here:
You can't POS bowl anymore because they changed the way the POS shields work, everything else has been and is legal.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:32:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
I wouldn't be making excuses if the video showed that they exploited. Exploits are bad. I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you. Hard to argue a point with someone who ignores evidence put right before them. We can all see the way the ships are moving. We can all see that Vees titan wasnt outside the POS due to it not getting blown up instantly. We can all see the titans being bounced in directions and speeds that indicate a cyno bump. Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here. If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. But hey, its not suprising that the people who post mostly grr goon comments are turning a blind eye to an exploit being used agaist us. Rest assured, if we had done this the mob would be crying for our heads and with a lot less evidence. Baltec, if the video in question showed someone pos bowling no one would question that an exploit happened, the titan need to be replaced, and the people responsible banned.
As it stands, the provided video supports one of two conclusions: 1) The titan was bumped just inside the POS shield - Exploit. 2) The titan was bumped just outside the POS shield - Not Exploit.
You claim that the titan must have been inside the POS for ~reasons~ but provide no supporting evidence of that. Maybe after whatever op Vee went afk and drifted out of the POS. Stranger stuff has happened. |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11168
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:33:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here.
If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. . This post shows you have absolutely zero knowledge of what POS bowling was. Let me give you a tiny hint here: You can't POS bowl anymore because they changed the way the POS shields work, everything else has been and is legal.
So you think this is a legit tactic then to bump titan out of a pos? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11168
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:36:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:baltec1 wrote:Avon wrote:baltec1 wrote: I wonder what excuse you would have used if N3 was daft enough to put up the bump itself.
I wouldn't be making excuses if the video showed that they exploited. Exploits are bad. I seem to remember you being much better at forums baltec1 - either my memory is failing me or your ability is failing you. Hard to argue a point with someone who ignores evidence put right before them. We can all see the way the ships are moving. We can all see that Vees titan wasnt outside the POS due to it not getting blown up instantly. We can all see the titans being bounced in directions and speeds that indicate a cyno bump. Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here. If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. But hey, its not suprising that the people who post mostly grr goon comments are turning a blind eye to an exploit being used agaist us. Rest assured, if we had done this the mob would be crying for our heads and with a lot less evidence. Baltec, if the video in question showed someone pos bowling no one would question that an exploit happened, the titan need to be replaced, and the people responsible banned. As it stands, the provided video supports one of two conclusions: 1) The titan was bumped just inside the POS shield - Exploit. 2) The titan was bumped just outside the POS shield - Not Exploit. You claim that the titan must have been inside the POS for ~reasons~ but provide no supporting evidence of that. Maybe after whatever op Vee went afk and drifted out of the POS. Stranger stuff has happened.
Again, if he was outside the pos why would they cyno right on top of him to bump him through the pos rather than cyno in at range and just DD him? Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

Grath Telkin
Sniggerdly Pandemic Legion
2444
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:38:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here.
If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. . This post shows you have absolutely zero knowledge of what POS bowling was. Let me give you a tiny hint here: You can't POS bowl anymore because they changed the way the POS shields work, everything else has been and is legal. So you think this is a legit tactic then to bump titan out of a pos?
Of course its legit, we've done it several dozen times, its 100% legit, and when they put the newest exploit notification out this summer they were very specific about it being a legit tactic still to bump them out of a pos.
Pretty sure everybody (CFC included) have bumped titans out of POS's before.
Its not POS bowling either, that was something entirely different that related to the shields being semi permeable even without the pass word, you could charge in, and like a rubber band you'd stretch in then get flung back out, on the way in using a big enough ship would fling the things out.
That is POS bowling, bumping a titan out of a tower isn't that, its just that, using your knowledge of the POS pw to your advantage and bouncing the AFK titan out.
Malcanis - Without drone assign, the slowcat doctrine will wither and die.
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baltec1
Bat Country Goonswarm Federation
11168
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:41:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Grath Telkin wrote:baltec1 wrote:Anyone of my age remembers pos bowling and it looks exactly like what is happening here.
If N3 get away with this even after posting this video then it can only mean pos bowling is now a legit tactic. . This post shows you have absolutely zero knowledge of what POS bowling was. Let me give you a tiny hint here: You can't POS bowl anymore because they changed the way the POS shields work, everything else has been and is legal. So you think this is a legit tactic then to bump titan out of a pos? Of course its legit, we've done it several dozen times, its 100% legit, and when they put the newest exploit notification out this summer they were very specific about it being a legit tactic still to bump them out of a pos. Pretty sure everybody (CFC included) have bumped titans out of POS's before. Its not POS bowling either, that was something entirely different that related to the shields being semi permeable even without the pass word, you could charge in, and like a rubber band you'd stretch in then get flung back out, on the way in using a big enough ship would fling the things out. That is POS bowling, bumping a titan out of a tower isn't that, its just that, using your knowledge of the POS pw to your advantage and bouncing the AFK titan out.
As boat posted, we were told not to do this as bumping ships out of a pos that we do not have the pw to is an exploit Join Bat Country today and defend the Glorious Socialist Dictatorship |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:42:00 -
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baltec1 wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote: Baltec, if the video in question showed someone pos bowling no one would question that an exploit happened, the titan need to be replaced, and the people responsible banned.
As it stands, the provided video supports one of two conclusions: 1) The titan was bumped just inside the POS shield - Exploit. 2) The titan was bumped just outside the POS shield - Not Exploit.
You claim that the titan must have been inside the POS for ~reasons~ but provide no supporting evidence of that. Maybe after whatever op Vee went afk and drifted out of the POS. Stranger stuff has happened.
Again, if he was outside the pos why would they cyno right on top of him to bump him through the pos rather than cyno in at range and just DD him? No idea. But that doesn't exclude the possibility. Motivation for an action, or lack thereof is not evidence as such. |

Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:43:00 -
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Grath Telkin wrote:
Its not POS bowling either, that was something entirely different that related to the shields being semi permeable even without the pass word, you could charge in, and like a rubber band you'd stretch in then get flung back out, on the way in using a big enough ship would fling the things out.
That is what they did this time. |

PotatoOverdose
Handsome Millionaire Playboys
1381
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:45:00 -
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Generic5Guy wrote:
That is what they did this time.
Ok....can you prove that? The video clearly shows a titan was bumped. Why it was bumped is irrelevant. Where it was bumped, outside or inside the POS is relevant. |

Generic5Guy
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
17
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Posted - 2014.04.15 02:49:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:Generic5Guy wrote:
That is what they did this time.
Ok....can you prove that? The video clearly shows a titan was bumped. Why it was bumped is irrelevant. Where it was bumped, outside or inside the POS is relevant.
Same argument over and over again, you guys are great.
Neither of us will know 100% until CCP decides. |
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