when did we start forming conclusions based on zero actual factsahahahaha GD

DE. I'm going to roleplay along with you and consider you an adorable noob with a massive mouth rather than an argumentative troll. For which I will pick you up, squeeze you, carry you under my arm, and patronise you until you run away and join the circus.

If you want a proper discussion about plex and markets, GO TO MARKET DISCUSSIONS. They have calculators, and Plex, and auditors. They love newbies. Try asking questions before you make assumptions tho - they've been on a diet since Ebank/T4U.

If I don't get an obedient answer before you badpoast again, I'll rip your posts apart one by one, word by word and make Trippia look kind.

Off you go. Or stay

How do you feel about the possibility that CCP is inflating it's own PLEX price within EvE?

Hello, i hear you would like to speak about the possibility of CCP inflating PLEX price. I use the word possibility, because it is possible.

How do you feel about the possibility that CCP is inflating it's own PLEX price within EvE?

Hello, i hear you would like to speak about the possibility of CCP inflating PLEX price. I use the word possibility, because it is possible.

How do you feel about the possibility that CCP is inflating it's own PLEX price within EvE?

Well, since they were dumb enough to put a monument up, I'll chain myself to it naked until they stop. Provided you can prove it. Thank you for responding in a respectful and appropriate manner.

I have just under 100 accounts I sub via Plex btw, so if anyone should be screaming it's me. Funnily enough it's just a minor shift I'll have to think around. Although I am sympathetic to the peasants who either can't afford to pay to play or feel they've reached a point where they shouldn't have to dedicate a majority of their ingametime to ISK making. Which I should, considering I belong to both categories.

All of the other tinfoil hattery can go the same way. The CCP economist (whose name I cannot spell, so I just made something up - please don't be offended) Dr EggJog publically commited to stabilising plex prices and intervening where required - and no, you lazy creature, you can bloody well go find it yourself, or I'll demand a citation from every post and statement you make, and a bibliography. Now personally, Eggy hasn't been impressing me - and you'll find a similar sentiment on MD - simply due to lack of communication. That's not to say a lack of confidence, it's the lack of communication. I suspect he is far too cautious to commit to that sort of statement unless it's been rubberstamped. And tbh I wouldn't either.

One key thing to note, which VV can explain at length - once a price hits a certain point it's a benchmark it rarely drops below unless there is a major market shift. So. Yes, it is a major problem to see plexes spike so fast in such a short time - if anything because it suggests inflation is out of control. CCP need to find that balance between retaining account holders who plex, encouraging people to buy plex to sell, and stopping people from selling ISK for gold. If you can prove they are deliberately fisting themselves, again, monument. We could call it the Summer of WTFJESUSCHRISTITSCOLDHERE.

It's not my intention to prove that CCP is manipulating it's own PLEX prices. I'm merely stating it's a possibility and defending that statement from people who claim it is impossible.

It's not my intention to prove that CCP is manipulating it's own PLEX prices. I'm merely stating it's a possibility and defending that statement from people who claim it is impossible.

If CCP tried to manipulate their own PLEX prices, people would just buy them from a different retailer, at least if they tried to increase it.
They offer all kinds of discounts, and even the occasional special offer, though, but it would be awfully weasel-word:y to call those GÇ£manipulationsGÇ¥.

I want to add that offering some temporary discounts on PLEX sales is a far cry from secretly removing PLEX from the market like he suggested.

It's not my intention to prove that CCP is manipulating it's own PLEX prices. I'm merely stating it's a possibility and defending that statement from people who claim it is impossible.

Maybe PLEX prices are just up because players realized they can not take their isk with them to StarCitzen. They cancelled their accounts are are using those monies to pay for really good marketing.

It could be... can't say for sure but I am feeling that dev initiated market adjustments get made without our knowledge; I do know that rather than pay the higher prices for plex I just inactivated some of my accounts... so less money not more - I can't afford it.

That was my reaction when I pulled down the Jita PLEX market data and just did a SUM() on it without first filtering out the noise.

GǪit showed 3,152,157,587 PLEX trades in active orders(!)

what does this mean? that there's been three billion market transactions involving plex? or that this number of plex have changed hands? or that all the orders have asked for or offered this many plex?

It means she has no idea what she is talking about.

Fark, I bought popcorn for this weekend instead of tinfoil.

what does this mean? that there's been three billion market transactions involving plex? or that this number of plex have changed hands? or that all the orders have asked for or offered this many plex?

So no, CCP very obviously does not benefit from higher prices. Instead, they benefit from lower prices. Exactly why they do so is hardly rocket surgery.

Which is only technically true once the number of accounts that depend on PLEX surpasses the number of PLEX in the supply. An account deciding to forgo PLEXing that month due to prices won't affect CCP in the slightest.

So as long as there are any on the market anywhere, CCP isn't losing anything. Which will never happen so long as CCP continues to make them available.

Probably the most obvious thing you have overlooked Tips, is the RMT angle. PLEX being more expensive makes the buying of ISK that much more desirable.

Bottom line, CCP trying to keep the prices of PLEX low are only going to hurt themselves.

Assuming for a minute that PLEX are being purchased as an investment (as has been hinted at previously), it would be in CCP's best interest to keep prices low as investors in most commodities do not hoard or hold when prices are high.