I did not find enough out of the box suggestion, here some :


add a med slot
keep the only 1cpu/1PG

role bonus :
Autopilot warp at zero
Can fit Target Spectrum Breaker
-100% requirement to Target Spectrum Breaker

No, it just means that only two (well, three) classes are set up in such a way that they benefit from hull tanking. That in and of itself is not unbalanced.

Even if it were, that would just mean that making the hull buffer module more viable would improve the balance, not make it more imbalanced.

But you aren't arguing to make the hull buffer module more viable. Removing the fitting requirements from the model wasn't the imbalanced aspect of them anyway

doing so would only make them fittable in this one off case in which devs have already stated they don't like doing.

I will have to pay 1.5 Billion for T2 rigs to get the same cargohold on my Rhea and then I still get the align-time nerf!

Once the market settles and there is actual demand for t2 cargo rigs, the prices will be much much lower. Currently almost nobody builds them because they moved very slowly (if they sold at all) before this change was announced.

Even if they get cheaper, I still have to PAY for rigs on a ship that will still be worse AFTER you put those rigs on.

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Harder than you might think.

Eve has no understanding of 'only these modules' or 'but not that class of ship'

And get CONCORDed in high sec? Yeah, that sounds like a great change...

Then we're back to: how so?
How are they imbalanced?

Which case would that be?

Americans is not a race.

I can understand the changes to jump freighters to a certain extent, as this is an attempt to force people to source locally

Does anyone actually find internet spaceship truck driving fun in this game? Why nerf something to ensure more time is spent doing something that is not enjoyable?!

This is an opportunity to make the game more fun.

I would be very interested in hearing how you propose to make hauling "more fun".

Do elaborate on that.

You said that no one fits hull tanking mods because they aren't viable.

When you do so I will tell you why they aren't balanced.

Let me rephrase, changing the fitting requirements to what you are proposing would not improve their viability on any other ship while only benefiting the freighter case if you were to give it low slots and keep the CPU the same.

I would be very interested in hearing how you propose to make hauling "more fun".

Do elaborate on that.

i propose the same idea suggested for everything else; shoehorn an irrelevant and terrible minigame in to it.

Since it has to do with cargo, I suggest a Tetris ripoff game.

Also, because no-one seriously fits hull when armour or shield is an option, and armour and shield is what really separates the races so it doesn't particularly affect most ships. It's not really the fitting restrictions that keep people from fitting hull tanks, but the sheer lunacy of hull tanking. Well, with one exception: Orcas. And post-patch freighters.

No. I said that you only very rarely fit them because hull tanking isn't a proper tanking style outside of Orcas and (now) freighters. As such, giving them no fitting requirements won't affect any other ships, which is a good thing since the point would be to give freighters, specifically, a tanking option that freed them from the problems of damage controls under the proposed scheme.

And?