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Kael D'mende
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:41:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Kael D'mende
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire More like 8/6/5. Slot layout looks like Raven. 
I sure hope not :O/ if it is inline with the speculations on the other ships total slot layout, it should have 20 slots total..
my hope is 8/7/4-5 ;O)
Made a boo boo. Should have typed 8/6/6. A bit strange for Minmatar to have more mids than Raven, isnt it?
humm proberly, but also quite strange to be the slowest of the new bs :O/
i was indeed hoping for a stabber based bs as many others where..
and have to agree with another poster, the design saids speed tbh ;o)
Regards. /Kael |

Matsuo Masato
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:41:00 -
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can someone caluclate what the stats one the best faction x-large booster with one boost amp and max skills?
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M00dy
ISS Navy Task Force Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:47:00 -
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Originally by: Jenny Spitfire
Originally by: Kael D'mende
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire More like 8/6/5. Slot layout looks like Raven. 
I sure hope not :O/ if it is inline with the speculations on the other ships total slot layout, it should have 20 slots total..
my hope is 8/7/4-5 ;O)
Made a boo boo. Should have typed 8/6/6. A bit strange for Minmatar to have more mids than Raven, isnt it?
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:51:00 -
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Originally by: M00dy
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
I want 7 medium slots. It would be so much fun to no longer fear Ravens.
DIE RAVENS DIE!
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Kael D'mende
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: M00dy
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
I want 7 medium slots. It would be so much fun to no longer fear Ravens.
DIE RAVENS DIE!
lol... could'nt have said it better myself ;o)
Regards. /Kael |

Double TaP
The Establishment
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Posted - 2006.07.25 19:53:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: M00dy
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
I want 7 medium slots. It would be so much fun to no longer fear Ravens.
DIE RAVENS DIE!
If you are in another battleship and fear ravens, well i fear for you.
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Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol
Imperium Technologies Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:01:00 -
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Edited by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol on 25/07/2006 20:02:18 Edited by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol on 25/07/2006 20:01:33 pretty sure its going to be 6/6 while caldari is 7/5 and galante 5/7 :P
Unless you want to see a 8/4 on the caldari bs with 5% resists
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Crange
Elite United Corp Antigo Dominion
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:03:00 -
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So temp for fleet mael for small gangs and phoon fer solo?
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
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Originally by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol Edited by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol on 25/07/2006 20:02:18 Edited by: Dr Tetrahydrocannabinol on 25/07/2006 20:01:33 pretty sure its going to be 6/6 while caldari is 7/5 and galante 5/7 :P
Yeah maybe. But i would prefer 7 meds... i have tried the cyclone as a pvp ship and dont really like it. 3 slots disappear on MWD, warp disruptor and webber. So you really want 4 more medium slots to be able to fit a good tank. 3 is not really enough.
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Jenny Spitfire
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:06:00 -
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Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 25/07/2006 20:07:22
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: M00dy
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
I want 7 medium slots. It would be so much fun to no longer fear Ravens.
DIE RAVENS DIE!
Nope. You think it is easy to shield tank with 6 slots, huh? At least you know how hard the Raven is tanking with 6 slots. 
/me tries hard to imagine something as huge as a BS that can MWD and orbit at 20km shooting blasters.  ---------------- RecruitMe@NOINT!
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Nafri
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:10:00 -
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Originally by: Crange So temp for fleet mael for small gangs and phoon fer solo?
mealstrom is slow,
so it will be:
Tempest for Fleets Typhoon for ganks Meal for Carebearing
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:12:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri
Originally by: Crange So temp for fleet mael for small gangs and phoon fer solo?
mealstrom is slow,
so it will be:
Tempest for Fleets Typhoon for ganks Meal for Carebearing
Carebearing = mission running? Still think Raven will be better for that.
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HippoKing
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:16:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Made a boo boo. Should have typed 8/6/6. A bit strange for Minmatar to have more mids than Raven, isnt it?
Everything goes out the window with these new boats. Gallente gets a fast, agile ship which is kind of why i like minmatar to begin with. And minmatar gets a shield boosting monster which is really a caldari thing, yeah.
Yeah 
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steveid
Penetrate
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:16:00 -
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With the bonus' and slot layouts of this ship you can basically tank sentry guns in low sec solo forever. I find that very worrying personally. Add onto that the possibility of ecm and you've got yourself a kick ass solo pwnmobile. Looks to me horribly horribly overpowered. I'm glad for minnie as they suck, but tbh they need better low end ships as the bs's aren't to bad at all.
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Sarmaul
0utbreak
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:17:00 -
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Edited by: Sarmaul on 25/07/2006 20:17:29
Originally by: Jenny Spitfire Edited by: Jenny Spitfire on 25/07/2006 20:07:22
Originally by: Jim McGregor
Originally by: M00dy
Imagine the whinage. 8/6/6 would be so... bleh.
I want 7 medium slots. It would be so much fun to no longer fear Ravens.
DIE RAVENS DIE!
Nope. You think it is easy to shield tank with 6 slots, huh? At least you know how hard the Raven is tanking with 6 slots. 
/me tries hard to imagine something as huge as a BS that can MWD and orbit at 20km shooting blasters. 
Oh get off your high horse.
The Rokh is a giant Ferox (optimal range + shield resistance bonus) while the Maelstrom is a giant cyclone. Both ships have identical mids and lows, so why not the Tier3 BS when the obviously follow the same pattern? Where has it been stated that no battleship ship must have more midslots than the Raven, a Tier2 battleship?
The same applies to Command Ships too btw.
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dabster
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:18:00 -
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Edited by: dabster on 25/07/2006 20:20:08 more like mining :-P
edit; omg i gotta learn to stay docked while i whorumfore ___________________________ Brutors Rule! My Eve-vids; Click. |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:20:00 -
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Originally by: steveid With the bonus' and slot layouts of this ship you can basically tank sentry guns in low sec solo forever. I find that very worrying personally. Add onto that the possibility of ecm and you've got yourself a kick ass solo pwnmobile. Looks to me horribly horribly overpowered. I'm glad for minnie as they suck, but tbh they need better low end ships as the bs's aren't to bad at all.
Well, minmatar ships might not be the win button like caldari/gallente ones, but they are a challenge and quite fun to fly. And yeah, this ship will be a really good tank with decent dps on top, but lacking speed. It will probably feel alot like a big Raven but with guns.
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Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:21:00 -
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Originally by: dabster Edited by: dabster on 25/07/2006 20:20:08 more like mining :-P
edit; omg i gotta learn to stay docked while i whorumfore
What, you dont like the new ship?
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Necrologic
Sniggerdly
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:23:00 -
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Edited by: Necrologic on 25/07/2006 20:23:08 Why does this thing have rof and not damage? Its alpha strike with artillery is only half a turret stronger than the tempests with bs 5, assuming the tempest has nothing in its other highs. That's crap. This thing needs to have damage not rof imo, unless its only supposed to be an auto boat (but it's gonna be sloooow)
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:25:00 -
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Try hitting a small moon without massive tracking support. Slow and heavy and shield tank. Will it allow for a full set of 1400 without totally having to miss out on damage mods because of the needed fitting mods? And there was no word of any drone bay.
It can't use nos without losing out to the Tempest. When it is nossed the shield boost bonus is as useless as a nossed Cyclone's shield boost bonus. Rating: Not hot on the first look at the stats. --*=*=*--
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Quarantine
Federation of Synthetic Persons YouWhat
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nafri Tempest for Fleets Typhoon for ganks Meal for Carebearing
Why would you want a temp over the maelstorm for fleets? The latter should do more dps and has more burst damage. And if it even has more med slots, as shield tanking bonus suggests, that's even better.
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Swiftness
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:29:00 -
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It better have a F***ing huge cargo hold
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xeom
Obsidian Sins
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:29:00 -
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Edited by: xeom on 25/07/2006 20:29:41 dumb alt >.< ^^^ (kria algox)
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Kria Algox
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:29:00 -
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If it gets only 6 slots it will be passable,but needs 7.But i would still rather train for a raven if only 6.
Sure great tank but you're going to be so slow and using all those slots for tanking,a raven just out does you becuase it can hit at any distance.
IE im talking about a 3xinvi 1xXL-booster 1xAmp 1xCap Booster.
The only thing is the minmatar one will have a built in Amp so i guess you could slap a mwd on there instead of the amp.
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Tachy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:34:00 -
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Originally by: Swiftness It better have a F***ing huge cargo hold
On a Minmatar ship that isn't named Probe? --*=*=*--
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Vera Nosfyu
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:37:00 -
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I like this ship. It has "bait" written all over it. ^_^ -----------------------------------------------------------
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Frezik
Celtic Anarchy
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:38:00 -
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Originally by: Kael D'mende Edited by: Kael D''mende on 25/07/2006 19:29:53 Wondering how accurate this info is ?
http://evegames.hostingbig.com/eve/data/Ships/Battleships/Tier3@~32;Minmtar.xml
OT: I wish people would stop linking to the database information on ships/modules that aren't officially in game. There's lots of junk in there that the devs just forgot to remove before releasing the final version. Much of it is overpowered and poorly tested. What's worse is when people assume that a database entry on a preliminary item is a "promise" from the devs that the final version will look that that, or even that the item will be released at all.
That said, looking for hidden stuff the devs forgot to take out is a time-honored gamer tradition dating back to at least the orginal Metroid. ---- "Well in this case, he's being flamed, and rightly so, for whinning about a game mechanic that doesn't actually exist." -Lorth |

EL TITAN
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:44:00 -
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needs big cargohold indeed _________________________________________________ <3 hi |

Jim McGregor
Caldari
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:50:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/07/2006 20:49:56
Originally by: Zyrtan Keb'Lektar at least caldari now finaly got a mining bs 
Best sniper in the game too.
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Valea Silpha
Cereal Killerz Chimaera Pact
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Posted - 2006.07.25 20:51:00 -
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I gotta say it:
The maelstrom lets me down in every way. I wanted a big stabber with a rack of AC's and caution being thrown to the wind.
We have ended up with the bastard child of the raven and the cyclone. Theres no specific reason to use it with arty over the tempest, and assuming its as slow as it probably will be, its not worth using with AC over the tempest either.
If it has 7 meds it will tank pretty well, but thats never been the minmatar strength. If it has 6 meds and 6 lows, then we get an ECM + resonable armor tank boat.
Neither of that are anything like the minmatar i know and love.
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