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s bromz
Black Scorpions Inc
Circle-Of-Two
0
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:32:00 -
[5431] - Quote
Don't take what iv worked so hard for and invested my time and money into iv earned that jump drive adding new things is fine but don't take what we have earned though hard work and money 0.0 and low sec capitals should have always been able to use gates that's something that is fine
you want to add things to the game fine do it with a new class of ship that would make carriers dreads not worth jumping to bash a pos
or if you add this you should add it so we can lock onto a system without lighting a cyno and jump to it because if your solo moving your self your not going to take 3 days or more and 20 + cynos to move your capital to a new alliance
you want more players in 0.0 your taking the wrong path
you want more players in eve your doing it wrong
spend your time creating more class's of ships
or make it so all of 0.0 is the best place to live most profitable as a player you have already hurt ir income and profit we have to deal with cloaky campers hot drops roaming gangs for less than what you could make in empire and low-sec i see more ppl from 0.0 moving back to empire as is because they are able to make 300mil +a hr some of us are lucky to make 100mil an hr
i heard you had a pole and 50% wanted this wel you check that 50% and see where the are in eve and i didnt see no pole i want a recount and the pole be linked on the launcher we live in 0.0 we should decide what we can do and not do keep your hands off my investment or ill put my hands on yours might not be but 40 bucks a month but ill find a new game if i have to !!!!!!!!! |
BrundleMeth
Caldari Provisions
Caldari State
237
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:32:00 -
[5432] - Quote
Yuri Thorpe wrote:BrundleMeth wrote:Please Turn wrote:Zhul Chembull wrote:Again
Just popping in to throw an idea I already have and to state an opinion. The changes are not good, regardless to what anyone says.
words
This thread keeps delivering. For the third time, I can't stop laughing  Just popping in to throw an idea I already have and to state an opinion. The changes are EXCELLENT, regardless to what anyone says. What do you do in eve?
Why? You want me in your corp?
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1694
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:32:00 -
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Zhul Chembull wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:Zhul Chembull wrote:PotatoOverdose wrote:Alp Khan wrote:
Your real life friends are hardly a serious metric or statistic that could be taken into account. Look at the uproar in this thread citing the logistical difficulties that will stem from Grayscale's ~genius idea~. Now, that is a serious metric.
Ah yes, "uproar." Well let's look at the "uproar." Endie, one of your leaders, seems to support it. So does le reddit. So too does the bulk of this day 0 straw poll on the subject. I could go on, but I don't think it's necessary. It is not a number of people that support the pole really friend, its the mechanic behind it. It will fail in its current state. However, we just have to see the number of subs as of now and two months from now. Number analysis far outweigh emotion outcries correct ? No it will not fail. See I put as much value as your baseless response. Alone it probably woudl fail, but there will be other changes comming. INCLUDING PLAYER MADE STARGATES!!!!!!!! Being emotional doesn't change the facts that are in hand. Fact: players are leaving. Fact: It hampers the flow of goods in eve. Fact: It will not break up the alliances. Fact: It is a bad mechanic. These are all facts, not sure what you want for a base, but I think 11 years may be a decent base. As I said, the numbers will not lie not sure what you are arguing against as I am simply trying to save a game I really enjoy.
Players are already leaving.. because of the things this will change.
Yes it will help on sovlign the allainces, but will be complete only on the next stage that you sttubornly tries to ignore and make your opinion irrelevant for CCP, sicne they clearly are only goign to pay attention to people that are thinking on the whole concept of their plan.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Lord TGR
Bat Country
Goonswarm Federation
63
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:32:00 -
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PotatoOverdose wrote:The Slayer wrote:I love how the big bad alliances out in null sec are accused of "strangling" the game despite being the only reason CCP are ever mentioned in the News Media as anything more than "that Icelandic company with the space MMO" or "that company doing the *new thing that looks cool but ultimately fails*. The only time EVE gets any real press exposure is when one of the nullsec behemoths does something dumb and loses a bunch of **** or one of the "dishonorable liars" that hisec pubbies despise so much steals the equivalent of a nigerian princes fortune from his alliance before running away and trying to sell it on ebay (although I haven't seen one of these stories in years). Well, lets face it: of late you've been a bit lax in fulfilling your end of the bargain, haven't you? When's the last time one of your dudes did something stupid with a titan that resulted in another asakai? People got bored, people b*tched, CCP listened.
You mean the fight where more titans died in 24 hours than normally does in a year (or thereabouts)? |
Alp Khan
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
205
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:33:00 -
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Kagura Nikon wrote:Alp Khan wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:
Your real life friends are hardly a serious metric or statistic that could be taken into account. Look at the uproar in this thread citing the logistical difficulties that will stem from Grayscale's ~genius idea~. Now, that is a serious metric.
Uproar of the few that do JF work alone. They want JF work to involve more people. make more peopel play the game.
There are MANY MANY TIMES more peopel interested in the chance to pirate and HUNT freighters than there are Jump frighter pilots in eve. SO YOUR JF pilot group is a minority as well.
With the low concurrent logins, please tell me how this will make increased group work involving JFs possible. No one is going to risk a loot pinata that's hauling billions taking gates without the knowledge that the route is completely safe. Industrialists are more likely to just relocate to empire than having to deal with the nightmare you seem to be having a wet dream about. Or worse, they'll just quit playing. You are exceptionally naive if you seriously think that forcing logistics to face risk even from a small gang is going to make them smile and push them into offering multi billion haulers as sacrificial lamb for you. Your overtly simplistic expectations are adorable, but unrealistic. Economics, production and logistics do not work like that. So your solution is to let the game die the way it is going? great businness man you are. These changes have a good chance. Not changing has zero chance.
The realistic expectation for CCP is to stabilize the current amount of subscriptions. Killing null logistics, which will have great negative affect on the entire game economy is not going to be welcomed by the consumers of goods that are tied to null, who are also subscribers.
Whether these changes are applied or not, CCP is not going to accumulate new and sustained subscriptions for a ten year old game. Do not fool yourself by thinking these changes are a Jesus feature and it will suddenly create a boom of subscriptions.
It will only create a drop in subscriptions. First, from the subscribers that are living in null and decide that moving to empire is not something they'd like to bother with. Then, you'll see people that do not live in null, but nevertheless get hit by the market prices skyrocketing will start unsubscribing, as their income will still be the same, but their ability to purchase and fit T2 modules and ships will be greatly hindered.
EVE is a game, it's not a second job. You're insane if you really think the average player will decide to dedicate half their days to simply do things they were able to do before Greyscale's changes. |
dhunpael
19
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:33:00 -
[5436] - Quote
Morellius wrote:So since these changes make nulllsec logistically more challenging, are you going to make it more worth while isk wise? Are you going to make sovereignty mean something? I imagine the bigger coalition's are pissed off at the sudden change without mention of anything else.
Make null more worthwhile CCP, high sec is full.
don't count on it, go check the wormhole forums, they did the same to us.
With much laughter and joy of the nullsec people who jumped down to our forums.
Now we can laugh and say: have fun with the nerf, no it's not getting more worth while ^_^
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The Slayer
GoonWaffe
Goonswarm Federation
181
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:34:00 -
[5437] - Quote
Kagura Nikon wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit  You mean they shoudl stay on the current capital online that since stablished CONTINUOUSLY decreased subscriptions?
Where are your figures on the subscription levels coming from? Because the last time I saw any official numbers out of CCP they were increasing year on year. I haven't seen any figures released that suggest a decline in subscribers. |
Misha Hartmann
Arch Angels Assault Force
The Kadeshi
6
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:35:00 -
[5438] - Quote
Another 2 things:
1. This hole change in effect renders caps (as logistic) more or less unusable in the grand scheme, CCP, what on earth do you think that will do to nullsec and some low sec PVP? How on earth are sub-cap ships going to get there? Are we going to fly them there 1 by one? I mean honestly? The more I think about it the dummer this change gets!
2. With the current distribution of ice belts, nearly all caps will be mostly grounded. No one can jump their caps because there are not isotopes and no one can get isotopes to the caps because its near impossible (depending where you are ofc)
The patch will make things interesting, but only for a few weeks maybe months. After that it will just be a pain because nothing can be moved. The game will become work, not fun. I do not know the exact percentage of total eve players that live in null, but I am sure its a significant. This patch will make it tough to live in null, and with that alot of null players will stop.
I really support the idea of trying to make capitals being used more on their own, but there must be an intelligent way of doing it, because the current one, as is, is just stupid.
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Lurifax
Common Sense Ltd
Nulli Secunda
11
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:35:00 -
[5439] - Quote
No it will not fail. See I put as much value as your baseless response. Alone it probably woudl fail, but there will be other changes comming. INCLUDING PLAYER MADE STARGATES!!!!!!!![/quote]
Being emotional doesn't change the facts that are in hand. Fact: players are leaving. Fact: It hampers the flow of goods in eve. Fact: It will not break up the alliances. Fact: It is a bad mechanic. These are all facts, not sure what you want for a base, but I think 11 years may be a decent base. As I said, the numbers will not lie not sure what you are arguing against as I am simply trying to save a game I really enjoy.[/quote]
Do you work at Fox News ? You are claiming facts, but you are not providing them.
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Big Lynx
Chaotic Tranquility
664
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:36:00 -
[5440] - Quote
To all rage-quitters |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1695
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:37:00 -
[5441] - Quote
The Slayer wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit You mean they shoudl stay on the current capital online that since stablished CONTINUOUSLY decreased subscriptions? Where are your figures on the subscription levels coming from? Because the last time I saw any official numbers out of CCP they were increasing year on year. I haven't seen any figures released that suggest a decline in subscribers.
Sorry I shoudl have said people ONLINE. Youa re right subscriber are basically static. But people are not loggin in.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Grave Digger Eriker
Grave Diggers Guild
15
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:37:00 -
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remus wulf wrote:Problem : Less and less players are logging in and playing eve.
Solution : Implement your current proposed changes.
Result : You annoy even more players causing them to un-sub multiple dozen accounts each ! Correct
remus wulf wrote:Brilliant plan CCP if you want to kill off this game and move onto other projects because
seriously at the rate your going the only ones playing your game will be Dev's.
Oh wait NO players NO need for Dev's job's complete ! Correct
remus wulf wrote:Seriously CCP please STOP listening to the CSM What on Earth makes you think they give a crap about the CSM or the players they have been elected by for that matter
remus wulf wrote:That is if you still want to see this game around in another 10 years ! Years!!! this will end in months not years
remus wulf wrote:264 pages of comments in 3 days and that number will rise significantly by the time you implement these changes.
That speaks volumes at the amount of disgruntled players your about to cause to quit. Correct
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Misha Hartmann
Arch Angels Assault Force
The Kadeshi
7
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:37:00 -
[5443] - Quote
Perhaps another idea:
- Instead of making Eve "smaller" - make eve bigger. The eve universe is crowded, add another dimension, perhaps only accessible by wh's or something |
xanderr
Sebiestor Tribe
Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:37:00 -
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Eessi wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit Does it mean you are going to RMT out cause in that case ccp may as well ban your account prematurely eh.
RMT out  where does it say that, your another reason why I will be glad to see the back of this game. Fulled with complete nut cases and if you havent already noticed there is noone left to RMT to they are unsubbing in their droves. Eve is dying and thank goodness it wont even see another 2 years.
Complete waste of 5 years of my life |
Yuri Thorpe
EnRon co.
30
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:39:00 -
[5445] - Quote
Misha Hartmann wrote:Perhaps another idea:
- Instead of making Eve "smaller" - make eve bigger. The eve universe is crowded, add another dimension, perhaps only accessible by wh's or something
I would be down for more space
Edit: That could work, more space means more LY, jump drives can only go so far |
Zhul Chembull
Phantom Power Incorporated
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
40
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:39:00 -
[5446] - Quote
The Slayer wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit You mean they shoudl stay on the current capital online that since stablished CONTINUOUSLY decreased subscriptions? Where are your figures on the subscription levels coming from? Because the last time I saw any official numbers out of CCP they were increasing year on year. I haven't seen any figures released that suggest a decline in subscribers.
There are a lot of emotional outcries but very few statistics to backup many that support this change. I unsubbed all my accounts and I do the industry thing. Again, it was not a fit throwing, but like someone said earlier, I am not spending many days doing something that use to take me a day or so to do. Doing logistics is not fun as is, but it is very essential to the health of the game, they are breaking this mechanic. Again, why go back to transports in horse and carriage when we have had a jet. I just cant go back to a mechanic that creates a ton of boredom. |
Delt0r Garsk
Sanctuary of Shadows
Honorable Third Party
180
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:40:00 -
[5447] - Quote
Fact: Players are leaving because of stagnate nullsec. This is the first sign that its going to get fixed. I know for a fact of at least a dozen accounts not being unsubbed because this change give some hope to the end of PL hot dropping everything and doing nothing else (I have seen a *probe* get hot dropped).
Many of us never even fly a Jump ship and only a few of us outside null sec blob drops ever bridge anywhere. How the hell do you think we get around eve? its not death cloning i can tell you for free.
So yea bridging and jumping was/is always something that had to be addressed. Good job. Can i have your stuff?
However i am not sure a multiplicative fatigue penalty is really needed. A plain additive one seem to achieve the same thing and not be too excessive. I don't think fatigue that last longer than a day is needed or good. Not that i plan to ever fly a cap.
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good. |
Zhul Chembull
Phantom Power Incorporated
Rebel Alliance of New Eden
40
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:40:00 -
[5448] - Quote
You my friend are an intellectual giant among us bugs. |
Delt0r Garsk
Sanctuary of Shadows
Honorable Third Party
180
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:42:00 -
[5449] - Quote
xanderr wrote:Eessi wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit Does it mean you are going to RMT out cause in that case ccp may as well ban your account prematurely eh. RMT out where does it say that, your another reason why I will be glad to see the back of this game. Fulled with complete nut cases and if you havent already noticed there is noone left to RMT to they are unsubbing in their droves. Eve is dying and thank goodness it wont even see another 2 years. Complete waste of 5 years of my life
Its a video game. What did you expect? A frecking gold medal?
Death and Glory!
Well fun is also good. |
Jethro Winchester
Collapsed Out
Overload Everything
17
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:42:00 -
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FU 2 wrote:Jethro Winchester wrote:FU 2 wrote:I can foresee Jita covered in supercaps :D Don't forget that Snuff Box, Shadow Cartel, etc, etc will be camping every lowsec entry point with supers, titans, and insta-locking Loki's since nobody will be able to hotdrop them. Some may pay up for the right to pass. I wonder where this leads? Will dreads see more PVE? Incursions? In all out rare RvB fights - I would 100% bring dreadnought rather than a Vindicator for example - just for fun. I also wonder whether they will make the gates bigger? It's silly enough seeing a dread undock. How about a titan going through a gate :D
You seem to think we lowsec folk want or need isk out of our PVP. I won't take a dime from anybody to let them through and I doubt many of the other groups will either.
As for where this leads, it's pretty simple.
Nullsec won't change one bit. Some systems will get shuffled around to make things easier, some tactics will change, the same people will be in charge of the same empires enjoying the same income because they're big enough to work around the new problems. The difference is that they won't move outside their sphere of influence anymore, at least not in numbers. So more stagnation there and it will likely be even worse than before.
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Yuri Thorpe
EnRon co.
30
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:42:00 -
[5451] - Quote
Delt0r Garsk wrote:xanderr wrote:Eessi wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit Does it mean you are going to RMT out cause in that case ccp may as well ban your account prematurely eh. RMT out where does it say that, your another reason why I will be glad to see the back of this game. Fulled with complete nut cases and if you havent already noticed there is noone left to RMT to they are unsubbing in their droves. Eve is dying and thank goodness it wont even see another 2 years. Complete waste of 5 years of my life Its a video game. What did you expect? A frecking gold medal?
Yes. |
gascanu
Bearing Srl.
169
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:43:00 -
[5452] - Quote
Kagura Nikon wrote:
Players are already leaving.. because of the things this will change.
Yes it will help on sovlign the allainces, but will be complete only on the next stage that you sttubornly tries to ignore and make your opinion irrelevant for CCP, sicne they clearly are only goign to pay attention to people that are thinking on the whole concept of their plan.
Numbers will lie on the first 2 months. You need to analyse after enough time, like 1 year.
what you fail to understand is that this change will increase the blue lists not decrease them; as in the ppl living in deep null will have to set the ones keeping the entrance point blue, otherwise they will start fitting their ships with t1 mods looted form npc wrecks...
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hezie99
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
3
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:43:00 -
[5453] - Quote
As has been said a number of times... I dont believe the issue is with the combat aspect of it, we welcome some of the changes. its more the logistical issues.
CCP: be smart take JFs etc out of this re balance and leave them as are, there is no reason why they should change, especially since you have stopped death clones.
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Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1695
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:43:00 -
[5454] - Quote
Zhul Chembull wrote:The Slayer wrote:Kagura Nikon wrote:xanderr wrote:WTS 1 Nyx and 1 Nomad **** this game, Good luck CCP hope you enjoy another 10 years of continual growth and year on year profit You mean they shoudl stay on the current capital online that since stablished CONTINUOUSLY decreased subscriptions? Where are your figures on the subscription levels coming from? Because the last time I saw any official numbers out of CCP they were increasing year on year. I haven't seen any figures released that suggest a decline in subscribers. There are a lot of emotional outcries but very few statistics to backup many that support this change. I unsubbed all my accounts and I do the industry thing. Again, it was not a fit throwing, but like someone said earlier, I am not spending many days doing something that use to take me a day or so to do. Doing logistics is not fun as is, but it is very essential to the health of the game, they are breaking this mechanic. Again, why go back to transports in horse and carriage when we have had a jet. I just cant go back to a mechanic that creates a ton of boredom.
overreactive childish response. You will NOT spend days. You will take about 1 hour to go jita to ANYWHERE, that if you do nto want to make gate jumps at all. Ifyou are not that sttuborn you can do it in half an hour with the changes.
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Jessica Duranin
Science and Trade Institute
Caldari State
221
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:44:00 -
[5455] - Quote
Misha Hartmann wrote:The eve universe is crowded, add another dimension, perhaps only accessible by wh's or something
You mean like w-space...?
btw. the universe isn't crowded. Most systems are very very empty. |
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction
The Pursuit of Happiness
1695
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:44:00 -
[5456] - Quote
hezie99 wrote:As has been said a number of times... I dont believe the issue is with the combat aspect of it, we welcome some of the changes. its more the logistical issues.
CCP: be smart take JFs etc out of this re balance and leave them as are, there is no reason why they should change, especially since you have stopped death clones.
There is, to make logistic need group work .
"If brute force does not solve your problem..... -áthen you are -ásurely not using enough!" |
Varesk
Origin.
Black Legion.
646
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:44:00 -
[5457] - Quote
All of these changes could be avoided if CCP actually worked on getting rid of TiDi. TiDI is what allows these big fights to get the dog pile and allow people in the north travel to the south. |
Fret Thiesant
The Imperial LansDrahd
LOADED-DICE
45
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:45:00 -
[5458] - Quote
The key to this is that CCP doesnt just stop with the changes after this patch.
No half decade long thought process.
They need to push forward with other ideas to support it.
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Crysantos Callahan
Control-Space
DARKNESS.
26
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:45:00 -
[5459] - Quote
Misha Hartmann wrote:Perhaps another idea:
- Instead of making Eve "smaller" - make eve bigger. The eve universe is crowded, add another dimension, perhaps only accessible by wh's or something
There's enough space in nullsec that's not used and you know it, everybody living in 0.0 knows that - nullsec and crowded... in some regions, but in general - nope. Making it bigger won't solve problems. |
Catt Stevens
Shadow Legion X
The Bastion
14
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Posted - 2014.10.03 12:45:00 -
[5460] - Quote
 SURVEY OF THE NEW LONG DISTANCE TRAVEL CHANGES
To all pilots of New Eden, I have though of a way of simply constructing a result that can show CCP what the majority of the players think about there new ideas on long distance travel and the other changes to come.
If you wish for your voice to be heard and not lost in the threadnaught then PARTICIPATE!
 You can find the survey here: LONG DISTANCE TRAVEL CHANGES
Have at it!! |
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