Ya, but good luck projecting force in the distant regions of your sov to protect your renters without being able to use capitals.

CCP will lose more subscriptions than you know... look at how many super pilots/cap pilots are out there if they unsub its going to hit ccp hard in the wallet.

it seems you don't know what pipebombing is and have shamed yourself and your family by posting something stupid, and have now decided to double-down by hoping nobody else does either

go home, child

According to all the angry goonies in this thread, that's a bit less than 1000 now... Oh, and enjoy the 70 jumps trip in an armor BS.

Protect their renters against what ? Sov Flipping ? This does nothing for the long timers which allows them to deploy regardless. Killing their renters ? They don't protect them against that anyway. So not sure what you're getting at.

a shame you didn't do the same thing with the module tiercide ... you guys have screwed that one up royally

[quote=Veers Belvar]

We use gates, it doesn't take long to get where we need to be.

Just to point out, this change just gave us a huge advantage.

Larger entities can't siege????? You are joking right, as it's the larger groups that place most the caps on the markets. Not to mention a few of these entities have the funds to straight up produce alliance level caps, which they hand out to cap pilots. If you think I am joking just understand, many alliances give full replacements and offer bonuses if you have this or that. Also caps use to be an alliance level ship, controlled by said group, given out for use as needed. Thus many players know how to setup catches and control how they are used.

I for one hate this plan, but when it goes active will laugh as I will likely be flying a borrowed carrier and dread into most future fights. So less risk for me and you still get stomped on.

dear CCP Greyscale you are about as far removed from reality of EvE as Mitt Romney was from reality of the average american life in the last election, please do everyone a favor and quit.

Thanks for eluding my point completely, there is no smartbombing going on in lowsec either because no bubbles, obviously.

Are the tears blurring your vision? Maybe you should get some rest this might be the first case of crying fatigue.

*unzip tear bottle* One refill please friend.

More than enough time for all the ratting carriers to be reduced to rubble, and the MOA folks to be long gone. 20 minute trip by megathrons >> 1 minute deployment by cyno.

So who exactly is going to pay rental fees to you if you are going to be completely unable to protect them?

I kind of understand the change and it does go someway to dealing with power projection and other things (like industry in 0.0) but I don't understand the jump range nerf - I see this as cutting off some regions (like stain).

Implying that we protect dumb renters ratting in carriers now.

Not sure if you'r actually beliving what Mittens have been telling you guys, or if you, unlike the rest of the guys in your alliance just has way less understanding of how things work, but it seems a lot of eve is willing to prove you wrong.

Not sure if you'r actually beliving what Mittens have been telling you guys, or if you, unlike the rest of the guys in your alliance just has way less understanding of how things work, but it seems a lot of eve is willing to prove you wrong.

Thanks for eluding my point completely, there is no smartbombing going on in lowsec either because no bubbles, obviously.

Are the tears blurring your vision? Maybe you should get some rest this might be the first case of crying fatigue.

*unzip tear bottle* One refill please friend.

Implying that we protect dumb renters ratting in carriers now.

So you're saying you rather have one massive brawl once a year then a crapload of better fights throughout the whole year?Seems odd as BRAVE allways says they are about fun-fights , especially as if i recall right one of your main FC's for example wasn't too happy with PL interfering with your fights vs provi , you know the type of interfering this whole ''nerf'''is trying to solve.Not to mention the station-egg that got supered out of existance ....

Big alliances wont be screwed at all for power projection. youll just see a fleet of 250 nullified ceptors burning around going to a system where theres 250 fitted carriers waiting that's within a jump or two of the destination.

alliances already do this with cyno toons and they have the income these days to start setting up cache's of such ships.

bubble the station to stop them I hear. ceptors are bubble immune, and 250 carriers undocking and letting lose drones is enough to scare off most camps.