[quote=baltec1][quote=Veers Belvar]
Renting is why you have no content.

Enjoy your no-content and more and more small pvp entities like PIZZA will spawn around you, if you call that winning then yes you'll win.

Implying that we protect dumb renters ratting in carriers now.

That logic also suggests that giving ships a 10% chance to explode every minute would be a good change. I don't wholly trust that logic.

So who exactly is going to pay rental fees to you if you are going to be completely unable to protect them?

We had a nyx full of haulers, with the haulers full of stuff. Before that, we had carriers full of haulers. Good times~

Speaking of renters, we're going to expand our rental program with these changes. Thanks!

Yup, in practice I wouldn't expect anyone to use it, but it gives a fairly straightforward way to cap the ability to use this sort of technique to genuine new players only. I'm not saying we'll do it, I just think it's an interesting suggestion to consider :)

You do realize that we don't protect renters from roaming gangs in any way already right?

And that to harass us the smaller entities will need to actually deploy (which has become a massively massively tedious "id rather kill myself" proposition)

And any sov timers will be far more than long enough for us to respond?

Right?

It's going to have a significant impact, to be sure, and that's something we need to keep an eye on. At the same time, though, people built T2 ships and modules before jump freighters existed, so we're somewhat skeptical of the argument that that T2 construction is impossible without JFs.

Ok fine....if they are willing to pay you just for the right to farm, with no involved force projection or protection, then you can carry on. But I think part of the expectation of renters is that the sov holder takes action to make the rented area safe, including hotdropping when necessary. The goons definitely made defense fleets to hunt down MOA. These changes make it a lot more painful to move around, and will at the very least force the renters to more actively protect themselves, putting downward pressure on the rental fees, and somewhat financially harming the large nullblocks.

Stop crying just because you're ******* lazy.

But I think part of the expectation of renters is that the sov holder takes action to make the rented area safe, including hotdropping when necessary.

you said pipebombing you idiot

i then deigned to correct you politely and you doubled down, and now appear to believe "pipebombing" means "smartbombing"

you have shamed multiple generations of your ancestors at this point you should probably cut your losses

We didn't wish for a power projection nerf as it won't do much to stop us. Now and RR nerf is something that can change things.

Have fun spending six hours on waiting out timers to simply move some basic goods from empire to null-sec! Maybe to combat that, they'll implement an undock timer too! When it's Grayscale at the helm, there is no such thing as surreal.

How about this? You can now only undock once every three hours because ~reasons~.

Meanwhile, you'll probably have issues finding other players around. They have daily routines called 'real life' and they spend time on 'jobs' for instance, so they already unsubscribed.

Enjoy.

As someone who remembers the days of freighter convoys, regional wars, 100 man battleship fights that were coordinated and maneuvered, the harsh unforgiving teeth gritting game that was Eve Online I finally, FINALLY have hope that CCP is breathing life anew into this game.

Eve is NOT your epeen meter. Eve is NOT about instant force projection, unabated losses without risk, rental empires without effort. Eve is supposed to BE harsh! So for all of you spoiled space brats crying that clawed to the top to sit fat and lazy upon your throne of untold billions and capital toys to only one day find that you don't control anything, that the environment and harshness of New Eden is coming back to kick you in the ass I say good riddance!

CCP don't you DARE back down or give into the kicking and screaming of those who are now afraid. They fear change to their Empires, their houses made of glass that one day someone would dare to throw a stone and have the whole frail illusion come crashing down.

Fix SOV. Implement these changes. Make Eve what it used to be. Unforgiving. Harsh. Skill based. Risky.

Finally welcome to Eve Online everyone. Enjoy the ride.

We dont depend upon our super fleet. From the moment this hits our massive subcap numbers and deployment of our sigs across our empire will show.