CCP said they were going take a more active look at Black Ops in Rhea ( december ) since these changes hit them way too hard
other than that no because more tears here would be comparable to a biblical flood once the containers rupture

387 pages. Damn this is going to be one hell of an 'We TOLD you so" thread to link in 6 months when it's clear that not only did not of this work, but it made things worse

Edit: forgot to add old "we told you so" link as an example.



hmmm, sounds familiar doesn't it?

Control freak much?

Say again?

What is changing?

We are going to allow capital ships to use gates in lowsec/nullsec, and we are aiming to make gate-to-gate travel take less time than jump travel over distances of more than ~20 LY. We've run simulations for capital ships travelling between arbitrary pairs of systems, and settled on the target movement speed of no less than 3 minutes per lightyear for travel over 20 LY. This should allow us to bring about the main change we want to see GÇô less sustained use of jump travel GÇô while still preserving its value for short bursts of movement.

These changes have positive implications for people not involved in sovereignty warfare, for example making use of capitals in lowsec less risky.

Phase Two is focused on medium-term changes to the ways that organizations capture and hold Nullsec space and infrastructure...etc

By splitting the task of improving Nullsec into manageable chunks, we are ensuring that we get you the best changes as quickly as possible rather than holding back needed updates. WeGÇÖre happy to be getting the first significant chunk of these changes out to you all later this year.

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Don't puss out now ccp

I've been playing with this for a couple days, and here's the adjustment I propose:

Fatigue = (Fatigue Before Jump + Distance of Jump)^(Destination Distance from Origin * A + B)

Except Force projection i think that the primary reason why nullsec won't be selfsufficient it is because they don't NEED to be because of the JFs. While these changes adress my concern i think it is not still enough. The easier the logistics are the bigger the entities will be. There for JFs should not have any reductions and JF's should not be allowed to jump in or out of lowsec trough a cyno, only trough gates.

Also DDs in lowsec are a lettdown. Will kill small scale capital brawls.

Say again?

Perhaps I missed something about 0.0 space.

Why should a 1 hour old character be able to easily transfer to 0.0 space?

To give an analogy on this:-

Would you give a newborn baby a handgun and a fork, throw them out into the wilderness and expect them to survive?

0.0 is supposed to be dangerous, deadly space full of nasty outlaw types that eat babies for breakfast. Why should a < 1 month character be allowed to move instantly and without danger to the deepest regions of that space?

If you are bringing in an alt toon for scouting/probing/general **** you don't do on your main toons, then scout them in.

As I said at the start, perhaps I missed something....

In the example fatigue kept going up but had no affect on your ship jumping. Did I miss something? What exactly is fatigue, and how is it effecting your ability to jump. The cool down prevents you from jumping, but what does fatigue do, or not do except get bigger?

Perhaps I missed something about 0.0 space.

Why should a 1 hour old character be able to easily transfer to 0.0 space?

To give an analogy on this:-

Would you give a newborn baby a handgun and a fork, throw them out into the wilderness and expect them to survive?

0.0 is supposed to be dangerous, deadly space full of nasty outlaw types that eat babies for breakfast. Why should a < 1 month character be allowed to move instantly and without danger to the deepest regions of that space?

If you are bringing in an alt toon for scouting/probing/general **** you don't do on your main toons, then scout them in.

As I said at the start, perhaps I missed something....

Can I look forward to the new characters being as creatively crafted as Mildew is?

Mr Epeen

(alternative math for fatigue and shock is all nice but mainly appears self serving so you can do what you want and screw everybody else OR you want to create a loophole that will be easier to fly through)

Sorry I forgot this game was designed for Goons. My point is why should it be easy as a newbie to travel to the darkest reaches of space? It should be difficult.

This is by far the worst game breaking change that has ever been thought up.

Why don't you add some content to Null Sec that will attract more players instead of breaking game mechanics that are working perfectly fine?

Isn't it pretty obvious we need new content?

Many players have gotten so bored with the game they spend their time griefing new players in High Sec. Has anyone noticed the rampant High Sec war deccing lately? Eve is starting to feel like one of those old games where only bitter vets are left to harass anyone that attempts to play the game.

CCP please donGÇÖt break the game more than it already is!

This is by far the worst game breaking change that has ever been thought up.

Why don't you add some content to Null Sec that will attract more players instead of breaking game mechanics that are working perfectly fine?

Isn't it pretty obvious we need new content?

Many players have gotten so bored with the game they spend their time griefing new players in High Sec. Has anyone noticed the rampant High Sec war deccing lately? Eve is starting to feel like one of those old games where only bitter vets are left to harass anyone that attempts to play the game.

CCP please donGÇÖt break the game more than it already is!

You are 100% correct. Those heavily against the change are really just after some loophole to exploit heavily to keep things the way they are. CCP needs to stand firm against these players and go forward with these changes making sure there is no such loopholes.

All the fear mongering and banging of pots and pans by these cowards needs to simply be dismissed.

Thanks CCP well thought out plan! It would be the same as if your development computer typed 1 letter of programming every minute, how long would you stay at your desk before you got frustrated and quit??