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Noslen Nosilla
Federal Logistics Initiative Conglomerate
United Interests
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Posted - 2014.10.27 03:27:49 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Hi pilots, The new weapons as teased at EVE Vegas 2014 for the Pheobe release in November. There are twelve weapons in total, and I have seeded these on the Singularity market*. We are eager to hear feedback on these weapons, so please try them out. After fitting, you will notice all your resistances will drop to 0%. Here is a quick list of the 12 modules so you can search on the market. Small Sized Blighted Small Pulse Laser Blighted Light Neutron Blaster Blighted 200mm AutoCannon Blighted Rocket Launcher Medium Sized Blighted Heavy Pulse Laser Blighted Heavy Neutron Blaster Blighted 425mm AutoCannon Blighted Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Large Sized Blighted Mega Pulse Laser Blighted Neutron Blaster Cannon Blighted 800mm Repeating Cannon Blighted Torpedo Launcher Known Issues:
- One or more turrets may appear bright red. They have yet to get final skins applied to them.
-CCP Paradox on behalf of Team Banana Stand
No "Blighted Railguns"?
Oh Great Bird of the Galaxy does no one ever read the news?
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4989
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Posted - 2014.10.27 12:23:40 -
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Why does it smell like World of Warcraft in this thread?
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Techno36
Dirt 'n' Glitter
15
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Posted - 2014.10.27 14:57:40 -
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Stigmatic? Better than Blighted but I think it still needs a better name. I don't want my guns to sound like they have eyesight issues. |
Tiger Tesla
Periphery Bound
Dominatus Atrum Mortis
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:07:50 -
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There are so many good names that have been suggested. Stigmatic is not one of them |
Indahmawar Fazmarai
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:09:45 -
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Techno36 wrote:Stigmatic? Better than Blighted but I think it still needs a better name. I don't want my guns to sound like they have eyesight issues.
Exactly my first thought. 
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Minaro Shina
off course
Hole Control
2
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:10:27 -
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really .. thats what you came up with?
well ... the guns are **** anyways, might as well have **** names. |
Gospadin
School of Applied Knowledge
Caldari State
228
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:14:11 -
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Some other options for the identifier:
Conflicted Mega Pulse Laser
or
Adjusted Mega Pulse Laser
or
Unsettled Mega Pulse Laser
or
Hotwired Mega Pulse Laser
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Contended Mega Pulse Laser |
Manic Velocity
Scout's Regiment
61
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:22:46 -
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Quote:
stigmata: a mark of disgrace associated with a particular circumstance, quality, or person.
synonyms: shame, disgrace, dishonor, ignominy, opprobrium, humiliation, (bad) reputation
Still not digging the name. 
May I suggest "Irukandji Weaponry" for consideration? Named after the jellyfish which are extremely fragile, but their venom packs a serious punch. They are essentially "glass cannons" of the sea. 
"I pissed off a Russian by stealing his salvage. It was nice knowing you guys. o7"
@manicvelocity
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Kharamete
Feral Solutions Inc
100
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:25:42 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted".
(Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".)
Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing?
Well, if you make these weapons only fit on Amarr hulls... the names would be fine. 
A curse fit with blighted weapons, there's something to it. Admit it.
CCP FoxFour: "... the what button... oh god I didn't even know that existed. BRB."
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Spugg Galdon
APOCALYPSE LEGION
The Obsidian Front
560
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:32:24 -
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Changed the name from "Blighted" -> "Stigmatic"
I think I just sighed a fair bit of defeat because the name change probably took over 100 man hours in meetings and deliberation and you still have a rubbish name for the weapons.
Seriously. If you can't get the name right what chance does this concept have.
I'm not sure I have the energy to even argue with you anymore.
You could have easily polled the community for a name for these weapons and we would have came up with something better and you wouldn't have wasted your time.
Stigmatic was not something that was suggested in this thread. Who pulled that out of their arse and why didn't you ask us if it was a good name before settling on it? |
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BroodAlpha
Noir.
Suddenly Spaceships.
0
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:46:32 -
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I think that 'Stigmatic' has the right meaning to it, but the wrong sound. You wanted pilots to feel like they were using outlawed or 'disgraced' weaponry right? The problem is it just doesn't have the same edge to it. Still better than 'blighted' though.
As for all of you people saying, 'it'll do nothing' you seem concerned enough to complain about what these weapons aren't going to do.
Play with them on SISI, then come to a conclusion about their uses. They've not even balanced them properly yet, no announced drop rates, the prices in the game are all player driven.
The immediate reaction in EVE to any changes at the moment are always negative as you guys don't think about the connotations of said things. Everyone always seems so entitiled, eurgh. From this, I can see a few potential uses (I could be very wrong but whatever).
1. Super quick subcap hit and runs on SBUs or other sov structures (works well with phoebe changes to pull people's ships around and stab them in other vulnerable areas, multi pronged attacks are super cool to execute).
2. Suicide ganking (if the modules are cheap enough)
3. One high dps subcap to break the tank of a larger ship once it's jammed
Obviously losing all your resists means that CCP doesn't intend for you to be getting shot at when you fit these modules. You're not playing it out correctly.
If the modules come out and are a complete failure that never gets used, they'll get reworked and be used.
I am glad that they're short ranged though. Cyclone hit and runs are already pretty bad. |
Dave Stark
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:51:59 -
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the name's still ****, btw. |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8755
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:52:16 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Can't see where do these weapons fit... they're mostly useless for PvE, and for PvP... well, if a fleet needs that extra DPS, why not just bring another ship? It will be cheaper and the fleet still haves all their tank if the target fires back. Frankly, it looks like a "wouldn't it be cool" idea that went too far. Or maybe CCP knows and we don't.  PS: call them Mephisto weapons. The name is cool enough even if some people won't get it.
They are not useless for all PVE just most of it lol.
Null sec forsaken hub + "Stgmatic 800mm" armor buffer fit Machariel + Remote Repping Nestor or Dominix assigning drones to the mach = sex. |
Rena Senn
Resurrection Ventures
Un.Bound
127
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:53:15 -
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"Stigmatic"? Really? Do these guns shoot incest, or do they cause my ship to bleed like babby Yahweh on the cross? |
Jenn aSide
Smokin Aces.
8755
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:53:33 -
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[quote=stoicfaux]These 'blighted' weapons would work well for blitzing level 3s in an AC Mach or RHML Raven-hull.
OMG, you're right lol.
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Wild Things
The Suicide Kings
Black Legion.
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:53:40 -
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Seriously?
This is so disgustingly uncreative.
In this moment, I am euphoric.
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Gennosuke Kouga
Enlightened Industries
Goonswarm Federation
0
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Posted - 2014.10.27 15:59:58 -
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0 - 2 CCP
Shuffle the words on the dart board and try again  |
Dirk Magnum
Blue Republic
RvB - BLUE Republic
385
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:28:41 -
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At least "blighted" made a bit of sense. "Stigmatic" doesn't make a bit of it. I'll take whatever name is behind door number 3, thank you.
-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á-á "LIVE FAST DIE."
- traditional Minmatar ethos [citation needed]
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Abrazzar
Vardaugas Family
4989
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Posted - 2014.10.27 16:33:02 -
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I'd call them Convection Surge Weapons because they suck out all resists and blast them at the enemy.
Sovereignty and Population
New Mining Mechanics
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Capqu
Love Squad
Confederation of xXPIZZAXx
835
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:01:18 -
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LMAO THAT NEW NAME JEEEEEEEEEEEESUS CHRIST
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNpMiT5qpyI
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Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
106
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:01:48 -
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ICELANDIC MEGA PULSE LASER
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Ravcharas
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:05:34 -
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Third time's the charm? |
Primary This Rifter
4S Corporation
Goonswarm Federation
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:08:04 -
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No but seriously call it "Overcharged"
It obviously implies that the damage output is increased, but to "overcharge" something implies an element of risk or danger, since, well, it means to "charge something too much" essentially. In this case the increased damage comes from drawing excessive power from ship systems which leads to the detrimental effect on defensive capabilities.
Alt of [redacted on advice from a reputable internet spaceships lawyer]
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Bronson Hughes
The Knights of the Blessed Mother of Acceleration
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:29:49 -
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So, you went from a name that people complained had serious WoW/fantasy overtones to a name that has serious religious/martyrdom overtones?
Okay. Why not name them after something that has to do with, you know, weapons?
Were you going for "astigmatism", as in poor eyesight, instead of "stigmata"? That kind of makes sense given the ranges involved with these weapons, but there is pretty much zero imagery with enhanced combat ability inherent with poor eyesight.
Unless there is a deep, underlying connecting to some upcoming piece of lore, I am seriously losing faith in CCP's basic creative processes. Given the lack of an obvious connection between the terms "blighted" and "stigmatic", I can't see this being the case.
CCP Falcon's thoughts on suicide ganking.
Reading Comprehension: so important it deserves it's own skillbook.
I want to create content, not become content.
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SC0T1SH WARRIOR
Dreddit
Test Alliance Please Ignore
104
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:34:40 -
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Bastard Guns.
No one wanted them in the first place.
Dont mind me, -ájust touching your stuff.
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Arkon Olacar
Bearded BattleBears
Brave Collective
427
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:37:41 -
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Does CCP have anyone who actually speaks English who can come up with a remotely decent name, rather than just jamming random words into Google Translate? This is worse than the first suggestion, get your **** together.
Warping to zero
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Phoenix Jones
Isogen 5
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:39:44 -
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I figure CCP is looking for a replacement for attacking Sov structures. Caps aren't the answer for a lot of people (particularly small gangs) come phoebe. Subcaps need a weapon system to chew through sov structures.
I don't see this being it. There is too many weaknesses, for not enough damage. People are advocating that they may have a use on t1 ships, but bumping up the equip price of a t1 ship with these new weapons could probably pass 50 million for a t1 frigate, 100 million for a t1 cruiser, to maybe a billion for a t1 battleship. This is assuming each of these new guns is 20 million a piece.
I would look more towards retrofitting a specific subcap and making it a quazi artillery platform (create a new battlecruisers capable of doing about 1/5th the damage of a sieged dread, but incapable of targeting subcap).. I would take the weapons presented back to the drawing board and redo its mechanic. Maybe make the heat damage it takes or received affect its tank. You heat it, tank resistance goes up or down. Just something to provide it some depth, and not just a new deadspace toy that is inaccessible to the majority of eve players because it goes for hundreds of millions of Isk a piece.
All new equipment should have a focus on the newer younger pilots , and affordability for them. We need stuff to grab new players and keep them playing. You create a set of stuff most won't ever see or consider, your just removing them completely from the equation. Now does this mean that new stuff should ignore the older player? No, but this virtually excludes the entire new player base, for weeks or months or even years, from even conceivably considering to being used.
There are better options even in this thread.
Yaay!!!!
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BadAssMcKill
ElitistOps
903
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:45:25 -
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U
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Seriously just rename the neuts and call these unstable |
Rena Senn
Resurrection Ventures
Un.Bound
127
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:50:34 -
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Stigmatic:
A stigmatic weapon draws upon the life force of the wielder to empower its blows. This profane energy deals an extra 1d6 points of necrotic damage to the opponent, but reduces the wielder's elemental resistances to 0 while the weapon is drawn. Only short ranged weapons can be enchanted with this ability.
Aura: Moderate necromancy. Creation: Caster Level 9th, Craft Magic Arms and Armor, Lesser Jovian Gravebind. Price: +2 bonus. |
BobFromMarketing
ElitistOps
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2014.10.27 17:53:11 -
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Not that anyone is going to use these because lol@ a sub 20% damage increase for a 100% damage taken boost but yall really need to look at the names you're picking. Stigmatic is actually worse than blighted. |
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