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![Arronicus Arronicus](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1820607777/portrait?size=64)
Arronicus
Bitter Lemons Brothers of Tangra
1180
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Posted - 2014.10.23 02:43:43 -
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These are excellent suicide ganking weapons, and potentially worthwhile additions to ships that gain the majority of their EHP through pure armor/shield hp.
In terms of seeing any usage whatsoever in pvp on tech 2 ships, which would be giving up a significant portion of their value (their tech 2 resists), the stat punishment is far harsher than the bonus provided.
As for the name, 'Blighted' makes me think of the Necromongers or whatever they were, from Riddick. Who knows, maybe this is a step in taking back the word. I don't think it really fits though, given that it sounds too organic, when none of the Eve ship races or designers really work around organic designs and technology. |
![Maraner Maraner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/763355895/portrait?size=64)
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
304
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Posted - 2014.10.23 02:46:32 -
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wait how about
The paradox gun. get it....... okay its a stupid idea then (both of them).
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![Arthur Aihaken Arthur Aihaken](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92493410/portrait?size=64)
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3876
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:05:43 -
[183] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:These are excellent suicide ganking weapons... Haha. Oh wait, you were actually serious... Yes, let's take those $2-million Catalysts into the $100+ million price range.
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![Zan Shiro Zan Shiro](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1572308232/portrait?size=64)
Zan Shiro
Alternative Enterprises
515
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:40:37 -
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are they (or have they) looked at all possibilities in the mathematical aspects of this weapon giving 0 resists I wonder? We can argue name, uselessness and gank potential till cows come home.
I'd ask the sisi people but if they find a math bug....going to say they will keep it a secret lol. Takes about a week or more to get exploit status so they'd want that week of fun till then post release.
Historically they have had an issue with both ceilings and floors on variables in the game calculations. Like what happened in a wh that boosts e-war to to the point it can zero out (or make negative iirc) tracking. Which broke the gun range calc that had blaster moros firing from waaaaaay the hell out.
Think there was another wh effect math bug that had 100% resist transports magically become tankless (died real easy iirc to even low damage).
I'd be thinking these in incursions with the resist hit off the bat stacked with the glass cannons need good testing. And well....thorough wh testing since wh effects have been lots of fun tor them. |
![Maraner Maraner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/763355895/portrait?size=64)
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
304
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:46:46 -
[185] - Quote
How about using Vapid in front of all of them
Vapid Blaster Vapid authocannon
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![Maraner Maraner](https://images.evetech.net/characters/763355895/portrait?size=64)
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
304
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Posted - 2014.10.23 03:50:22 -
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Wait wait I've got it!
GÇ£The Lord gave and the Lord has taken away; blessed be the name of the LordGÇ¥ (Job 1:21).
The Lord gun. Or we could spell it Lorde to be hip.
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![Arthur Aihaken Arthur Aihaken](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92493410/portrait?size=64)
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3876
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:14:48 -
[187] - Quote
How about Judas.
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![Rena Monachica Rena Monachica](https://images.evetech.net/characters/92945404/portrait?size=64)
Rena Monachica
Capital Hot Rods
9
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Posted - 2014.10.23 04:27:27 -
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Ample Enduring Blighted
I don-¦t like this new naming scheme. Call it Boomgun or something |
![epicurus ataraxia epicurus ataraxia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93362536/portrait?size=64)
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1309
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Posted - 2014.10.23 05:36:44 -
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The lack of attention to detail by the namer of these weapons is very disappointing, I am sure many put significant effort within ccp in the technical and art teams. This makes all that effort worthless.
Using a word that has only one connotation outside of fantasy games in a science fiction game is simply unbelieveable!
Blight, blighted, and blighting, are terms that are STRICTLY organic! And have NO OTHER possible Meaning or useage case.
The word is chosen and used in English to specifically highlight that fact. It clarifies and confirms that the process is an organic one.
You literally may as well have named these weapons after seafood for all the care taken in your use of semantics.
In short the effort shown, indicates either a complete ignorance of the English language, rank stupidity, or a complete contempt of the game you manage.
Pick any one.
[u]_There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE _[/u]
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![Caleb Seremshur Caleb Seremshur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1246093990/portrait?size=64)
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
371
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Posted - 2014.10.23 06:08:01 -
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Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
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![epicurus ataraxia epicurus ataraxia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93362536/portrait?size=64)
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1309
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Posted - 2014.10.23 06:12:57 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one.
What is annoying is the fact that the players need to tell CCP that they are saying their new weapon has a fungal infection. Hardly conducive to immersion is it.
"You have just recieved 1400 damage from a gun blighted with athlete's foot."
Oh yes, I would be ashamed ![Shocked](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_shocked.png) ![Big smile](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_smile-big.png)
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![Alvatore DiMarco Alvatore DiMarco](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1083880992/portrait?size=64)
Alvatore DiMarco
Capricious Endeavours Ltd
2980
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Posted - 2014.10.23 07:18:46 -
[192] - Quote
Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one.
This post confirms that there will always be a place in the market for substandard, poor-quality products and a supply of people more than willing to eagerly consume them. |
![Janeway84 Janeway84](https://images.evetech.net/characters/969555274/portrait?size=64)
Janeway84
Its a good day to die ORPHANS OF EVE
109
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Posted - 2014.10.23 09:27:38 -
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I got a idea for naming the new weapons, what about tuned, overcharged, ancient, radiated, super charged, nanoed, OD, scripted, enhanced, micropasted, nanite enhanced, bionuclear, fozzifyed, cyberpowered, cybernanite, cyberconstruct, nanite alloy, mercoxit infused?
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![Caleb Seremshur Caleb Seremshur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1246093990/portrait?size=64)
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
371
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Posted - 2014.10.23 09:50:39 -
[194] - Quote
Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one. This post confirms that there will always be a place in the market for substandard, poor-quality products and a supply of people more than willing to eagerly consume them.
If a mere name is enough to cause you to indulge in sensationalist drama be my guest but I have better things to do with my limited spare time :3
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
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![Syrias Bizniz Syrias Bizniz](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1653003847/portrait?size=64)
Syrias Bizniz
Zebra Corp The Bastion
361
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Posted - 2014.10.23 10:05:13 -
[195] - Quote
Question: Are they removing Shield and Armorresistances, or do they remove all resistances? |
![chadwill chadwill](https://images.evetech.net/characters/612789460/portrait?size=64)
chadwill
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
10
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Posted - 2014.10.23 10:38:11 -
[196] - Quote
So is there any real stats on this yet? |
![Marcia en Welle Marcia en Welle](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93502712/portrait?size=64)
Marcia en Welle
Tribal Liberation Force Minmatar Republic
84
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Posted - 2014.10.23 10:45:13 -
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Caleb Seremshur wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one. This post confirms that there will always be a place in the market for substandard, poor-quality products and a supply of people more than willing to eagerly consume them. If a mere name is enough to cause you to indulge in sensationalist drama be my guest but I have better things to do with my limited spare time :3 A lot of people are interested in the backstory and plot. And people generally like a game to be immersive where you feel that the devs have paid attention to the detail throughout. As Alvatore puts it though, there will always be a demand from people like yourself who are happy for substandard and poor quality products, and there are already plenty of other things out there for you. |
![Gregor Parud Gregor Parud](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93923526/portrait?size=64)
Gregor Parud
720
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:36:05 -
[198] - Quote
We REALLY need 900 dps Catalysts... |
![War Kitten War Kitten](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1035218104/portrait?size=64)
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5392
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:42:23 -
[199] - Quote
Arronicus wrote:These are excellent suicide ganking weapons, and potentially worthwhile additions to ships that gain the majority of their EHP through pure armor/shield hp.
These are excellent suicide ganking weapons in the same sense that republic fleet gyrostabs and fed navy mag stabs are great suicide ganking modules.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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![Caleb Seremshur Caleb Seremshur](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1246093990/portrait?size=64)
Caleb Seremshur
The Atomic Fallout Kids
371
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:54:27 -
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Marcia en Welle wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Alvatore DiMarco wrote:Caleb Seremshur wrote:Ya'll need to stop getting mad at videogames.
Complaining about the name is silly. This isn't a game where the backstory and overall plot is taken very seriously by most people. They could call these guns pony-express-killers for all I care, if they're worth using they will be used. Imagine the pure shame at being killed by one. This post confirms that there will always be a place in the market for substandard, poor-quality products and a supply of people more than willing to eagerly consume them. If a mere name is enough to cause you to indulge in sensationalist drama be my guest but I have better things to do with my limited spare time :3 A lot of people are interested in the backstory and plot. And people generally like a game to be immersive where you feel that the devs have paid attention to the detail throughout. As Alvatore puts it though, there will always be a demand from people like yourself who are happy for substandard and poor quality products, and there are already plenty of other things out there for you.
snrrrrrkkk hahahaha
and i bet you think that counterstrike is a failure in design as well huh? Wow you need to get off your meds mate. CCP CLOSED its 'fiction' department once before, it can happen again.
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=348015
T3 OHing subsystem review and rebalance
https://forums.eveonline.com/default.aspx?g=posts&t=290346
LP faction weapon store costs rebalancing
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![War Kitten War Kitten](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1035218104/portrait?size=64)
War Kitten
Panda McLegion
5392
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Posted - 2014.10.23 11:55:26 -
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Kadesh Priestess wrote:War Kitten wrote:I've no idea if the pastebin info is legit or not It is. These guns are just marked as unpublished, thus do not show up on any searches. You can view their info on sisi if you do following: Put this to file named blight.html Put blight.html to root of drive C: On sisi, open file:///C:/blight.html and click names you see (links won't appear as normal ingame links, but they are still clickable) You will open info window for corresponding module ( torp launcher)
Appreciate the info thanks.
So a whole 14.5% ROF bonus on blighted torp launchers over T2. Wheeee.
Yeah, these are structure grind weapons, or specialized ganking weapons at best. The underwhelming damage bonus isn't worth losing 60-70% of your EHP in any kind of regular fleet pvp action, large or small.
CCP - if you want to make it interesting, make the weapon's bonus proportional to the resistances or EHP given up.
I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
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![CCP Paradox CCP Paradox](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90298199/portrait?size=64)
CCP Paradox
1298
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Posted - 2014.10.23 12:07:10 -
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Just to reassure you we're still here.
The naming convention is being looked at, when we have a good candidate we will update the thread with that info.
And the stats are being looked into also, to balance the risk and make them a bit more interesting. Again when the next stats come up, I will get CCP SoniClover to drop a post.
I am also seeding them as they currently are on Singularity now. Please give them a try, and keep in mind some more changes are coming.
Thanks for the feedback, it's all good. Hope to get something updated to you shortly.
CCP Paradox | EVE Quality Assurance | Team Banana Stand
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![Moloney Moloney](https://images.evetech.net/characters/757832757/portrait?size=64)
Moloney
Cruentus Invicta
181
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Posted - 2014.10.23 12:44:40 -
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Are you taking the ****??
What exactly do you intend people to haul in after this??
Last I checked putting 3bil in mods on a proteus to get 400k hp still nets you just a 300m3 cargo hold. |
![epicurus ataraxia epicurus ataraxia](https://images.evetech.net/characters/93362536/portrait?size=64)
epicurus ataraxia
Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude
1315
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:02:32 -
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Moloney wrote:Are you taking the ****??
What exactly do you intend people to haul in after this??
Last I checked putting 3bil in mods on a proteus to get 400k hp still nets you just a 300m3 cargo hold.
Well they could always guarantee instant concord response when these weapons are fitted if they wanted to eliminate ganking with them altogether, but there seems to always need to be a workaround to remove secondary intended use. Apart from the fact that a portion of the playerbase are now, purple with rage at that comment and that it could ever be thought of, it does seem that it is intended for structure grinding, would it not make sense to have a weapon that reduces resistances for both the attacking ship and the resistances of the attacked structure? Either that or the additional damage takes time to "warm up" to it's full levels, much more interesting, and much less exploitable.
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![Indahmawar Fazmarai Indahmawar Fazmarai](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1345995575/portrait?size=64)
Indahmawar Fazmarai
3131
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:28:07 -
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Can't see where do these weapons fit... they're mostly useless for PvE, and for PvP... well, if a fleet needs that extra DPS, why not just bring another ship? It will be cheaper and the fleet still haves all their tank if the target fires back.
Frankly, it looks like a "wouldn't it be cool" idea that went too far. Or maybe CCP knows and we don't. ![What?](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png)
PS: call them Mephisto weapons. The name is cool enough even if some people won't get it. ![P](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png)
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![Horoth blod Horoth blod](https://images.evetech.net/characters/90548687/portrait?size=64)
Horoth blod
Noir. Academy Of Sound Mind
0
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:49:43 -
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well so these guns are some what usefull, but they need some better stats.. right now the only real use for them is on the stealth bomber..,
i can see a usage for them but upgrade em a little eh :) |
![Kagura Nikon Kagura Nikon](https://images.evetech.net/characters/520439885/portrait?size=64)
Kagura Nikon
Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness
1814
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Posted - 2014.10.23 13:52:29 -
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Considering in eve combat nowadays your EHP is SEVERAL TIMES more important htan your DPS (except if you are a kite boat).. I see those being used ONLY on structure bashing.
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![Azami Nevinyrall Azami Nevinyrall](https://images.evetech.net/characters/1569527890/portrait?size=64)
Azami Nevinyrall
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
2107
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:02:18 -
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CCP Paradox wrote:Just to reassure you we're still here.
The naming convention is being looked at, when we have a good candidate we will update the thread with that info.
And the stats are being looked into also, to balance the risk and make them a bit more interesting. Again when the next stats come up, I will get CCP SoniClover to drop a post.
I am also seeding them as they currently are on Singularity now. Please give them a try, and keep in mind some more changes are coming.
Thanks for the feedback, it's all good. Hope to get something updated to you shortly. I really hope you consider the stats again!
This is a good idea, but the gain from the DPS just doesn't justify the costs of fitting them!
If you *REALLY* want to go down this route, split them into 2 different groups.
Do both short and long rang variants!
Examples...
Short range weapons should get the range hits, but keep the resists!
Long range variants should keep the range, and they get the resists hit!
Both get the DPS bonus's...
....and the only warning was the last line of the patch notes, which said. "Oh yeah, we also shuffled Moon Goo around!"
Show your support, move Moon Goo with Power Projection changes!-á
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![Soldarius Soldarius](https://images.evetech.net/characters/268384296/portrait?size=64)
Soldarius
Deadman W0nderland The 99 Percent
851
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:03:06 -
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Kossaw wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted".
(Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".)
Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing?
As you say "Blight" refers to a "disease" - so hence it is a verb applied to anything "living". Applying this to anything non-living (like a gun or a sword) is out of context. And the most common out of context use is in sword and sorcery type fantasy. So you've inadvertently chosen a word that already has a strong connotation of anything BUT sci-fi.
Verbs do not apply to any thing except to describe action taken by something to something. A word that applies to a thing would be an adjective. Hence, "blighted" is an adjective, and "Blight" is a noun.
"Blighted" is generally used to describe a state of disease, sickness, or rotting of an organism; both plant or animal. So it doesn't really work with a manufactured device.
Also, the benefits of using these are not exactly worth the penalties. They will need to hit a lot harder or anything that can reach the ship will simply instapop them.
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![Ama Scelesta Ama Scelesta](https://images.evetech.net/characters/95002641/portrait?size=64)
Ama Scelesta
49
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Posted - 2014.10.23 14:03:21 -
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Indahmawar Fazmarai wrote:Can't see where do these weapons fit... they're mostly useless for PvE, and for PvP... well, if a fleet needs that extra DPS, why not just bring another ship? It will be cheaper and the fleet still haves all their tank if the target fires back. Frankly, it looks like a "wouldn't it be cool" idea that went too far. Or maybe CCP knows and we don't. ![What?](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_question.png) PS: call them Mephisto weapons. The name is cool enough even if some people won't get it. ![P](https://forums-archive.eveonline.com/Images/Emoticons/ccp_p.png) I think CCP said it's part of their series of new features, where they can't predict how the players end up using them. They're throwing something totally new and different in the sandbox and seeing where it goes from there. Basically it seems like a weapon you use when you're confident you can prevent the target from shooting back or when it doesn't matter. So some structure grinds and maybe niche small gang gank squads. |
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