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scorchlikeshiswhiskey interstellar initiative Incorporated 303	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:20:58 - [61] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted". (Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".) Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? In my opinion, blighted has taken on a fantasy connotation in the current era of gameplay. Whether you played WoW or Diablo or some other game, blighted was synonymous with cursed and, in games openly incorporating magic, they were weapons touched by "evil" magic that exacted a price for their use. So, even though blight actually refers to a plant disease, with players it brings up memories of playing WoW, Diablo, Warcraft, etc... Also, it doesn't sound very "sci-fi'y" (Diablo was the first thing I thought of, the WoT series was second)
Tikitina Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 195	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:22:54 - [62] - Quote Alvatore DiMarco wrote: Is "Blighted" really the name you're going to use? Will we see "Cursed" and "Holy" and "Undead" weapons in the future? My reply may be a bit snarky, but I have a very real concern here. For the love of god, hire someone who can come up with Sci-Fi names. Or make your naming person stop playing WoW. What name theme would you suggest?
Milton Middleson Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 554	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:23:07 - [63] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted". (Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".) Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? 'Blight' as the manifestation or domain of fantasyland BBEGs appears in WC3, Dragon Age, and Wheel of Time just off the top of my head and sounds very Warhammer Fantasy-ish to boot. On the other hand 'blighted' is almost never used in normal discussions in English. Relatively few people pay attention to agriculture - outside a news article on the subject (which tend to be infrequent), you're unlikely to have much exposure to the conventional meaning of the word. So the fantasy meaning is going to predominate, at least within the Eve-playing subset of the population (who are disproportionately like to consume fantasy fiction).
Valterra Craven 301	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:24:49 - [64] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted". (Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".) Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? Well think about it this way, if you look at how the name is used regularly IRL then how would that name apply to anything technology related? How does a plant "blight" metal??? Further to the point, why would anyone put a weapon on their ship that could potentially "blight" the rest of their ship? That's kinda the whole point of the name is that it spreads. A lot of people would put an "overcharged" weapon or a "precurser" one, but blighted??? No. I think not.
Seraphina Amaranth Hedion University Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:25:38 - [65] - Quote afkalt wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? It's jarring next to this type of SciFi for me. It's reminiscent of corruption, demonic or something supernatural (perhaps too much time spent in the WH40k universe). And yet, similar terms are perfectly okay in Sci Fi: "The Carbon Plague" "Nano-virus infection" "Ecophage" etc.
Nicholai Pestot Recon and Reclamation 0	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:26:08 - [66] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Archetype 66 wrote: :) What Kind of bonuses they provide ? +30 alpha ? Rof ? Omni dmg ? We want you to try them out on Singularity as this is for feedback from the test server. If we were to write the numbers down, it would turn into just a number-crunching feedback post instead of people actually trying them out in game. M8. Spreadsheets online isn't just a funny name. Within 10 minutes of these going on the test server someone will screenshot/extract the stats and the number-crunching will start. So just give us the stats.
Tikitina Imperial Academy Amarr Empire 195	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:26:24 - [67] - Quote BadAssMcKill wrote: I like Unstable more than Blighted Except we already have mods with this in there name that are not extremely overpowered, although it would be interesting to see them get the same effects.
Viscis Breeze No Vacancies 69	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:26:55 - [68] - Quote Natasia Nicia wrote: CCP as most people are saying naming needs some work's just not "spacey" enough, how about naming them "Catalysed" weapons rather than Blighted +1 Recruitment: http://bit.ly/1r4G5Pv Website: http://www.no-vacancies.net/ Channel: No Vacancies

CCP Goliath C C P C C P Alliance 2529	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:27:52 - [69] - Quote Adrie Atticus wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted". (Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".) Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? It's the normal naming convention in fantasy literature and games, rarely used in sci-fi due to people usually connecting blight to plague, famine and disease. Even though many sci-fi writers (and tv series) drop the "Blight of the mankind" all the time, it's usually connected to loss, failure and death. It's not a bad word, just not really used in sci-fi, more in fantasy and high fantasy. I think "Normal" might be the wrong word, but maybe "natural" might suit better? Doing some research I've dug up a few references to blight. We've got a location in The Wheel of Time series, a location in Worlds of the Imperium, some malfunctioning terraforming microbes, a T.E.S. disease, an alien race in DC comics, a Transformer, a baddy in seminal cartoon classic "Captain Planet" and of course the aforementioned WC3. This is around a 50/50 split to 75/25 split of fantasy/scifi, depending on your definitions of them both I guess. This leads me to draw the conclusion that it's a word that people think is cool, maybe even quite badass, despite its most common usage to be to describe bad potatoes CCP Goliath \| QA Director \| EVE Illuminati \| @CCP_Goliath

Seraphina Amaranth Hedion University Amarr Empire 17	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:29:37 - [70] - Quote Tikitina wrote: What name theme would you suggest? Endophagic lit. 'eats within'

John Caffeine Fairlight Corp Rooks and Kings 23	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:30:59 - [71] - Quote Looking at the stats ingame, these guns seem very underwhelming. Blighted Mega Pulse has a RoF of 7.20s compared to the normal 7.88, and a damage modifier of 3.8 instead of the normal 3.6 one. Tracking is 0.0375 instead of 0.3375, and range is 20.6+6 instead of 24+8. So damage wise you gain a bit of dps and tracking while losing some range. Not really worth trading all your resists for. New name suggestion: "Underwhelming".
Ravcharas Infinite Point Nulli Secunda 376	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:34:50 - [72] - Quote John Caffeine wrote: Looking at the stats ingame, these guns seem very underwhelming. Blighted Mega Pulse has a RoF of 7.20s compared to the normal 7.88, and a damage modifier of 3.8 instead of the normal 3.6 one. Tracking is 0.0375 instead of 0.3375, and range is 20.6+6 instead of 24+8. So damage wise you gain a bit of dps and tracking while losing some range. Not really worth trading all your resists for. New name suggestion, "Underwhelming". Unless of course you don't care about your tank for some reason. Grrr Marmite
Bright Onyx Savage Blizzard Dragon Empire. 2	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:34:50 - [73] - Quote Hmm blighted guns.. How about made them to inflict blight to a hiitted vessel. Thus inflicting DoT and illness to the vessel.
Ian Praetorius GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 37	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:36:40 - [74] - Quote Bright Onyx wrote: Hmm blighted guns.. How about made them to inflict blight to a hiitted vessel. Thus inflicting DoT and illness to the vessel. :getout:
Milton Middleson Rifterlings Point Blank Alliance 554	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:42:46 - [75] - Quote This is a terrible, hideous idea, but I'm going to post it anyway: make the damage increase proportional to the lost resists. So if you have an average resist of 80%, you get more extra damage than if you have an average resist of 30%.
afkalt Republic Military School Minmatar Republic 410	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:45:10 - [76] - Quote Seraphina Amaranth wrote: afkalt wrote: CCP Goliath wrote: Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? It's jarring next to this type of SciFi for me. It's reminiscent of corruption, demonic or something supernatural (perhaps too much time spent in the WH40k universe). And yet, similar terms are perfectly okay in Sci Fi: "The Carbon Plague" "Nano-virus infection" "Ecophage" etc. None of those hold supernatural connotations though, blighted does - to me at least.
Powers Sa 1376	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:48:49 - [77] - Quote Glad to see these are mostly short range and forcing people to semi-commit. long range guns would be pure aids. Do you like winning t2 frigs and dictors for Dirt Cheap?https://eveninggames.net/register/ref/dQddmNgyLhFBqNJk Remeber: Gambling addiction is no laughing matter unless you've lost a vast space fortune on the internet.
War Kitten Panda McLegion 5389	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:51:48 - [78] - Quote I can sort of see it - your ship is infected with a resistance blight. But to me, this is a new technology, right? And we don't invent technology and market it for the drawbacks it might have, we focus on the positives. These should definitely be vorpal weapons. (Well, except for new medications which, by law, now have to scare you to death with potential side effects as a disclaimer in any commercial) I find that without a good mob to provide one for them, most people would have no mentality at all.
Globby Heart of Pyerite Imperial Outlaws. 1	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:51:51 - [79] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: [quote=Adrie Atticus] I think "Normal" might be the wrong word, but maybe "natural" might suit better? Doing some research I've dug up a few references to blight. We've got a location in The Wheel of Time series, a location in Worlds of the Imperium, some malfunctioning terraforming microbes, a T.E.S. disease, an alien race in DC comics, a Transformer, a baddy in seminal cartoon classic "Captain Planet" and of course the aforementioned WC3. This is around a 50/50 split to 75/25 split of fantasy/scifi, depending on your definitions of them both I guess. This leads me to draw the conclusion that it's a word that people think is cool, maybe even quite badass, despite its most common usage to be to describe bad potatoes EDIT: Missed out on like, half of the Nurgle forces of WH40k, but you get the idea Keep the name, its brilliant. It will take the focus away from the terrible game design and put it on the name.
Slap Chop GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation 55	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:53:29 - [80] - Quote Small Sized Badass Small Pulse Laser Badass Light Neutron Blaster Badass 200mm AutoCannon Badass Rocket Launcher Medium Sized Badass Heavy Pulse Laser Badass Heavy Neutron Blaster Badass 425mm AutoCannon Badass Heavy Assault Missile Launcher Large Sized Badass Mega Pulse Laser Badass Neutron Blaster Cannon Badass 800mm Repeating Cannon Badass Torpedo Launcher

Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 789	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:53:56 - [81] - Quote I'll drop a new weapon idea for you that may be a bit more of a viable option. Overclocked Weapons. The weapons are based off the t1 base constructed weapons (let's take a heavy neutron blaster tech 1), adds extra parts to it (let's say sleeper salvage (the non nano ribbon stuff)), and overclocks the weapon. An overclocked weapon does the following Damage is that of the t1 module as it currently stands. When heated, damage increases to that of a deadspace weapon (this is using t1 ammo). When unheated, goes back into normal t1 weapon damage. This provides increased burst damage solely when the weapon is heated, uses t1 ammo, and t1 modules, and requires no moongoop to build. You just run the risk of melting your weapons if you do not manage heat correctly. More balanced, accessible for both new and old players, uses a commodity that isn't Widely used, bring a new branch of manufacturing for intermediate industrialists, balanced between burst use and long term use, and should not be ridiculously expensive. Uses a mechanic that has been mildly overlooked for a while. Yaay!!!!
Techno36 Tempest Legion Psychotic Tendencies. 14	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:54:27 - [82] - Quote Please do rename the guns from blighted, that does not fit in with eve at all.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2911	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:55:29 - [83] - Quote CCP Paradox wrote: Keija Ijonen wrote: Heavy Neutron Laser? A typo I presume? Yeah, copy/paste fail. Thanks, corrected it now now i really want one :( eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Alvatore DiMarco Capricious Endeavours Ltd 2961	Posted - 2014.10.22 14:59:41 - [84] - Quote With regards to naming, I've always gotten the feel that the tech and sci-fi in EVE is a bit on the cold, hard side of things. A name may be viable in sci-fi and make people feel like it's "badass" but we're talking about names here and so atmosphere really should come before advertising. It's difficult to come up with a good name that hasn't been suggested before, but "Destabilized" or "Polarized" (referring to all attack with no defense) or perhaps "Hardwired" to suggest bypassing software limiters for more power.
Skyler Hawk The Scope Gallente Federation 28	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:00:32 - [85] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? Part of it may come from the use of Blight in the dragon age series. Really, though, I think it's a bit too organic-sounding for a laser cannon; talking about a "diseased" gun would sound pretty odd in most settings, and "blighted" comes off in the same sort of way.
Bienator II madmen of the skies 2911	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:01:18 - [86] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted". (Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".) Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing? as others already mentioned it is a little out of context for describing a supercharged scifi weapon. eve style bounties (done) dust boarding parties imagine there is war and everybody cloaks - join FW
Kadesh Priestess Scalding Chill HYDRA RELOADED 431	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:03:09 - [87] - Quote http://pastebin.com/w4Rj18MX from today's sisi build Currently these guns do 8-18% more damage than their t2 counterparts. Would be cool if they did much LESS damage than t2, but ignored target's resistances (or ignored portion of these). Credit for this idea goes to suitonia.
Setsune Rin Collapsed Out Overload Everything 219	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:08:40 - [88] - Quote +8-18% damage as a tradeoff to having resistances, and there aren't any long range versions err....what? what exactly is this supposed to do?
white male privilege University of Caille Gallente Federation 44	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:11:35 - [89] - Quote Who cares what they're called I've been playing this game for almost ten years if they were 220mm spotted **** I'd still fit it to my ship if they were good
Ralph King-Griffin Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 5978	Posted - 2014.10.22 15:14:55 - [90] - Quote CCP Goliath wrote: EDIT: Missed out on like, half of the Nurgle forces of WH40k, but you get the idea First comment dude. "I'm also quite confident that you are laughing and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers." =]I[=



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