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Capqu
Love Squad
829
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Posted - 2014.10.22 19:52:54 -
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i'm irish and i find the names of these weapons extremely offensive
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNpMiT5qpyI
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Moneta Curran
Lunar Industries Ltd
299
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:27:53 -
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Stupid idea, stupid name. Please just don't, everybody walks away happy.
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Alundil
Isogen 5
727
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:33:21 -
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Rek Seven wrote:So they reduce the resistance even if you don't have the guns active... I would have though it would have been far better to only apply the resistances reduction to the ships when the guns are firing, that way there is a bit of strategy and skill involved.
These glass cannon weapons don't sound interesting at all, except if you're in a battleship which will still be able to fit an okay tank... Also, the name is dumb. This is what I was thinking as well. Aside from the naming issue (which is bad) and the idea proposed by Phoenix Jones (which is good - no corp bias) having the resist loss only while the guns are active makes a lot more sense from a tactical standpoint. From the discussions about the T3 Dessies, it is evident that changing bonuses to hulls on the fly in space is now possible based on "______" so it stands to reason that it ought to be possible to alter the hull stats based on active state of any one of these weapons.
In this way, pilot skill and battlefield awareness play a role in when or when not to active these "Ultimate (insert name) weapons of Deadliness +5" weapon systems.
I'm right behind you
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Alundil
Isogen 5
727
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:35:08 -
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Capqu wrote:i'm irish and i find the names of these weapons extremely offensive Family is part Irish as well (Grandfather's side) and you're right. This is an example of unmitigated "potato hate".
I'm right behind you
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afkalt
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
414
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:35:35 -
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Terranid Meester wrote:Chribba wrote:Unstable is a very good name imo. Already used for neuts, charged sounds nice imo, charged with the resistances from your ship.
Indeed but keep in mind tiericide is changing names. |
Jessica Danikov
Clan Shadow Wolf Fatal Ascension
417
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:40:25 -
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First thought was Myth 2: Soulblighter. Then Warcraft's undead faction. Then potatoes. I guess the association with sci-fi is incredibly weak, unless you want to talk Chaos Space Marines.
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Ilaister
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
114
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:49:11 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted".
How are you not used to the toxic, overwrought and poorly thought out responses to perfectly normal things you guys suggest in your product already? Tell them to HTFU and quick.
Someone even stole our alliance name as an alternative suggestion - which while flattering - makes even less sense than have a weapon system 'blight' nerf your ship's resistance to damage.
Ignore the online thesaurus wielders with poor english skills is my advice.
... infact Overwrought might be a decent alternative now I think about it. Maybe too many emotional connotations than technical but still better than most of the crap in this thread. |
Ilaister
Task Force Proteus Protean Concept
114
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:51:34 -
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Azure and Or wrote:CCP Paradox wrote:Archetype 66 wrote::)
What Kind of bonuses they provide ? +30 alpha ? Rof ? Omni dmg ? We want you to try them out on Singularity as this is for feedback from the test server. If we were to write the numbers down, it would turn into just a number-crunching feedback post instead of people actually trying them out in game. CCP Paradox wrote: The modules are currently not on Singularity
If you won't give us numbers and the modules aren't available to test, what is the point of this thread?
To see people like you rage pointlessly about how pointless it all is. Op success so far.
Or perhaps to update the people clamouring for more info to tell em they'll be on SISI shortly and that they can rage about them 'soon'. |
Dxella
Licentia Ex Vereor Northern Associates.
8
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:51:43 -
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How about......Overcharged?
Overcharged Medium neutron blaster Overcharged Heavy Pulse Laser Overcharged 425mm autocannon |
Maraner
The Executioners Capital Punishment.
303
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Posted - 2014.10.22 20:52:12 -
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oh look a new muppet gun.
WTF, how does this magically remove your ships armor resistances? I realise that apparently Eve is a 'game' whatever that means but c'mon. Really?
Maybe put in ludicrous price ammo or something, not this stuff (not that I wont use them). It could drop from faction rats and actually be useful instead of junk.
THere you go, rare ammo drops that actually mean something....
Can I get a vorporal launcher?
How about a +5 neut of doom?
or how about a legendary beam lazor.
I'm sure other people can suggest more fun stuff.
How about the ancient Overheat Leet beams of death!
please CCP - no.
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Rek Seven
Probe Patrol
1944
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:00:49 -
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Alundil wrote:Rek Seven wrote:So they reduce the resistance even if you don't have the guns active... I would have though it would have been far better to only apply the resistances reduction to the ships when the guns are firing, that way there is a bit of strategy and skill involved.
These glass cannon weapons don't sound interesting at all, except if you're in a battleship which will still be able to fit an okay tank... Also, the name is dumb. This is what I was thinking as well. Aside from the naming issue (which is bad) and the idea proposed by Phoenix Jones (which is good - no corp bias) having the resist loss only while the guns are active makes a lot more sense from a tactical standpoint. From the discussions about the T3 Dessies, it is evident that changing bonuses to hulls on the fly in space is now possible based on "______" so it stands to reason that it ought to be possible to alter the hull stats based on active state of any one of these weapons. In this way, pilot skill and battlefield awareness play a role in when or when not to active these "Ultimate (insert name) weapons of Deadliness +5" weapon systems.
Thinking a bit more about it, it would be overpowered if it worked like that. It would effectively be a siege mode that you could end at will to receive reps. We'll just have to make do with traditional fitting methods to refit what the situation calls for.
+1
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Challus Mercer
Sacred Temple The Gorgon Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:07:51 -
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This new glass cannons seems to be usless, because of that huge penalty. For example if the numbers are correct they increase your DPS up to 8-18% in the same time they increase the damage of your opponent on you by ammount of resists that you had before (up to 90+%), so it's obvious not a good idea to use this guns, especially because they gonna cost a lot. |
Winthorp
2816
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Posted - 2014.10.22 21:16:40 -
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Challus Mercer wrote:This new glass cannons seems to be usless, because of that huge penalty. For example if the numbers are correct they increase your DPS up to 8-18% in the same time they increase the damage of your opponent on you by ammount of resists that you had before (up to 90+%), so it's obvious not a good idea to use this guns, especially because they gonna cost a lot.
I think the point you are missing is the enemy ship won't have weapons. |
Soden Rah
Rapier Industry and Technology Second Sun Rising
11
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:01:56 -
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I'll be interested to see what these actually do when they hit SiSi... But till we have some actual data I'm concurring with those that don't like the name.
I don't have a problem with the word blighted sounding fantasy over Sci-Fi, But it just sounds like these weapons are damaged or suck, as opposed making them sound cool and powerful.
Being an Iain M Banks fan I would suggest calling them 'Lazy Guns' ... But you're probably not allowed to do that.
So I would go with something like these: [Apologies to anyone if I nick your ideas]
Hacked Redoubled Glass [imply a link to the sleepers with]Sleepy Brazen Berserker Vindictive Destabilised or Leeroy Jenkins[As in "I'm going for a full Leeroy Jenkins fit.."] |
Burneddi
Love Squad
161
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:04:29 -
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Soden Rah wrote:But it just sounds like these weapons are damaged or suck Probably wouldn't be too close from the truth then, if the +10% rof +10% damage thing is of any indication. |
Kadesh Priestess
Scalding Chill HYDRA RELOADED
436
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:10:05 -
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War Kitten wrote:I've no idea if the pastebin info is legit or not It is. These guns are just marked as unpublished, thus do not show up on any searches. You can view their info on sisi if you do following:
Put this to file named blight.html Put blight.html to root of drive C: On sisi, open file:///C:/blight.html and click names you see (links won't appear as normal ingame links, but they are still clickable)
You will open info window for corresponding module (torp launcher) |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3876
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Posted - 2014.10.22 22:22:32 -
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Missiles are again getting the shaft - as guns benefit from a damage and rate of fire increase while missiles will only receive an increase to rate of fire (unless there's also a huge bump to ammunition capacity as well). The concept is great, the name is 'meh' - but the preliminary specs on these weapons relegates this idea to DOA.
Give these weapons a 50% rate of fire/damage increase and this will make things really interesting. Short of that I just can't see how the huge list of tradeoffs is offset by the paltry DPS increase.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Mixu Paatelainen
Eve Refinery
169
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:02:09 -
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I can't believe nobody has come up with 'Honorable 425mm Autocannon' etc. yet. |
Challus Mercer
Sacred Temple The Gorgon Empire
2
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:07:05 -
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Winthorp wrote:Challus Mercer wrote:This new glass cannons seems to be usless, because of that huge penalty. For example if the numbers are correct they increase your DPS up to 8-18% in the same time they increase the damage of your opponent on you by ammount of resists that you had before (up to 90+%), so it's obvious not a good idea to use this guns, especially because they gonna cost a lot. I think the point you are missing is the enemy ship won't have weapons. Well if you speak of killing miners, then you dont really need glass cannons for this case. |
Elleiha Solette
Thrall Nation Brave Collective
0
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:34:34 -
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How about "425mm Jovian Hell Cannon"
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
10162
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:46:07 -
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"Blighted"? Really?
Use Overcharged or some other word that fits in a sci fi setting.
Also, if they are going to reduce EHP by as much as they do, cost as much as they are suggested to, but only offer a ~ 20% damage boost, they are sharply limited in their use. Moreso the big ones, since bigger ships can't sig tank worth a damn.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Daenna Chrysi
Omega Foundry Unit The Ditanian Alliance
108
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:47:53 -
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CCP Goliath wrote:Adrie Atticus wrote:CCP Goliath wrote:I'm asking this only because I'm interested in words generally, and am likewise interested in the strong reaction to "blighted".
(Disclaimer: I have no skin in this name game, am not participating in the discussion that Paradox describes, I have no influence one way or the other over how items are named, and I don't feel strongly one way or the other about "blighted".)
Blight is a word used IRL mostly to describe plant disease, and secondarily as a general description for something that has been spoiled or damaged. What about it gives you such a strong "fantasy RPG" feeling? Is it the Undead Warcraft 3 sprawl thing?
It's the normal naming convention in fantasy literature and games, rarely used in sci-fi due to people usually connecting blight to plague, famine and disease. Even though many sci-fi writers (and tv series) drop the "Blight of the mankind" all the time, it's usually connected to loss, failure and death. It's not a bad word, just not really used in sci-fi, more in fantasy and high fantasy. I think "Normal" might be the wrong word, but maybe "natural" might suit better? Doing some research I've dug up a few references to blight. We've got a location in The Wheel of Time series, a location in Worlds of the Imperium, some malfunctioning terraforming microbes, a T.E.S. disease, an alien race in DC comics, a Transformer, a baddy in seminal cartoon classic "Captain Planet" and of course the aforementioned WC3. This is around a 50/50 split to 75/25 split of fantasy/scifi, depending on your definitions of them both I guess. This leads me to draw the conclusion that it's a word that people think is cool, maybe even quite badass, despite its most common usage to be to describe bad potatoes EDIT: Missed out on like, half of the Nurgle forces of WH40k, but you get the idea
http://www.wowwiki.com/Blight_%28plague%29
on side note, we going to get potato ammo for them at xmas?
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Kaarous Aldurald
ROC Deep Space The ROC
10162
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Posted - 2014.10.22 23:49:14 -
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Oh, and if the lasers can't fit T2 ammo, they are going to be hilariously useless.
"Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws."
One of ours, ten of theirs.
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Andy Koraka
Blackwater USA Inc. Pandemic Legion
45
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:02:44 -
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Rhea, aka the return of the HEROCATS!!!!!!
Not a huge fan of the name blighted though. Berserker or something like that would be better. |
Emma Muutaras
State War Academy Caldari State
61
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:13:59 -
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i think reckless would be a suitable name after all reducing your resists to 0 for more damage seams somewhat reckless to me like "Reckless Mega Pulse Laser II"
or we could just keep it simple as its a T2 gun and call it something like "Modified Mega Pulse Laser II" |
Aralieus
The Inf1dels
222
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:33:20 -
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+1 For the idea -1 For the name
I know you guys can do better than 'Blighted'!
Oderint Dum Metuant
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Inquisitor Kitchner
Galaxy Punks Executive Outcomes
1108
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Posted - 2014.10.23 00:51:33 -
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The idea is good the name is pretty awful.
I get why you've gone with "blighted" but it sounds more like a WoW item from a quest than a Sci Fi name.
To me the idea I want conjured up is that of a weapon system that draws power away from your defensive systems in order to power itself. This would imply they probably aren't very efficient in terms of power/system use.
I would suggest the term "Overloaded" but since you already used that for something I wouldn't go with that.
You could perhaps go with "Unstable" as a name, as to me it's like saying "Well we can get them to work but not without huge drawbacks".
Overloaded, overcharged, unstable... all these sorts of words I think would be better used than blighted.
"If an injury has to be done to a man it should be so severe that his vengeance need not be feared." - Niccolo Machiavelli
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Ralph King-Griffin
Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance
5992
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Posted - 2014.10.23 01:24:45 -
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Capqu wrote:i'm irish and i find the names of these weapons extremely offensive bull****, if you were Irish you would be to drunk to make that connection...
"I'm also quite confident that you are laughing
and it's the kind of laugh that gives normal people shivers."
=]I[=
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Jack Tronic
borkedLabs
215
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Posted - 2014.10.23 02:23:48 -
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Wow, very little DPS increase for stupid price and 0 resists.
Alternatively just overheat like a normal person, keep resists and don't waste ISK. Plus you are far more likely to live and repair your modules! |
Arthur Aihaken
X A X
3876
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Posted - 2014.10.23 02:39:27 -
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If these were awesome weapons (with great specs), the name wouldn't matter. Just saying...
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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