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Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10733	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:33:49 - [91] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: If I remember correctly, you made exactly the same comments and criticisms regarding the covert ops cloak on the Stratios and the Astero. No, that's your insanity talking. I was advocating for them to receive +10 Relic and Data module bonuses. Which happened. Putting a cov ops cloak on this thing would be completely nuts, and as I said it would invalidate almost all existing frigates as they would be completely unable to compete, especially in the new small ship wormholes. The concept with these is supposed to be an interesting option, not "T3 Destroyer or gtfo". You can spout "but wormholes!" all you like, you're never going to get handed a blatantly overpowered cloaked ship. Now knock off your nonsense, for once, before you earn yourself another forum ban. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
FT Diomedes The Graduates Forged of Fire 647	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:34:34 - [92] - Quote elitatwo wrote: And what about bubble nullification? No, not a good suggestion. We already enough safe ways to travel. Covert ops cloak is also a bad idea. It would come with too many nerfs to the useful aspects of the ship. A destroyer, in Eve, should destroy things. I could go for no delay after decloak though... This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
epicurus ataraxia Z3R0 Return Mining Inc. Illusion of Solitude 1400	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:38:18 - [93] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: epicurus ataraxia wrote: If I remember correctly, you made exactly the same comments and criticisms regarding the covert ops cloak on the Stratios and the Astero. No, that's your insanity talking. I was advocating for them to receive +10 Relic and Data module bonuses. Which happened. Putting a cov ops cloak on this thing would be completely nuts, and as I said it would invalidate almost all existing frigates as they would be completely unable to compete, especially in the new small ship wormholes. The concept with these is supposed to be an interesting option, not "T3 Destroyer or gtfo". You can spout "but wormholes!" all you like, you're never going to get handed a blatantly overpowered cloaked ship. Now knock off your nonsense, for once, before you earn yourself another forum ban. Reported for goading and making up ISD actions i will not respond further the matter is now entirely in their hands. There is one EvE. Many people. Many lifestyles. WE are EvE
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 287	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:41:25 - [94] - Quote A cloaking ability would make the ship too powerful. Hell, I'm skeptical on giving it a scan probe bonus. As it stands, though, this ship has an amazing range of uses for an incredibly low skill requirement and cost. I'm down with it and look forward to flying all of the d3's. Vote Sabriz!
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10734	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:42:15 - [95] - Quote epicurus ataraxia wrote: Reported for goading and making up ISD actions As usual, you can't actually argue your point, just spout nonsense. By all means, report me for telling you exactly how bad your awful, unbelievable, imagination shreddingly bad idea is. But just like last time, disagreeing with your ludicrous, laughable ideas is not against the rules. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Kaarous Aldurald Lords.Of.Midnight The Devil's Warrior Alliance 10734	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:53:14 - [96] - Quote Ned Thomas wrote: d3's. Well, that does it. That's the name for these, calling it right now. "Verily, I have often laughed at the weaklings who thought themselves good because they had no claws." One of ours, ten of theirs.
Catherine Laartii Dominion Fleet Group Templis CALSF 409	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:57:05 - [97] - Quote I think the lack of drones or tracking speed bonuses on this ship will make it pretty vulnerable to brawlers getting under its guns. That said, I think it's a good balance to it; i just wish that it had a 20/40 drone bay or a full flight of flights. Idk it just looks like it might have some problems without a tracking speed bonus or a few drones.
Ned Thomas Hellbound Turkeys Alliance of Abandoned Cybernetic Rejects 288	Posted - 2014.11.28 02:59:33 - [98] - Quote Kaarous Aldurald wrote: Ned Thomas wrote: d3's. Well, that does it. That's the name for these, calling it right now. Can't claim it. Saw it in another thread for this ship. But yeah, these things are d3's. So shall it be written and what not. Vote Sabriz!
FT Diomedes The Graduates Forged of Fire 647	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:09:59 - [99] - Quote Catherine Laartii wrote: I think the lack of drones or tracking speed bonuses on this ship will make it pretty vulnerable to brawlers getting under its guns. That said, I think it's a good balance to it; i just wish that it had a 20/40 drone bay or a full flight of flights. Idk it just looks like it might have some problems without a tracking speed bonus or a few drones. Not every ship in the game needs a drone bay. Particularly frigate and destroyer hulls. This is my signature. There are many like it, but this one is mine.
I'm Down Macabre Votum Northern Coalition. 232	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:10:28 - [100] - Quote For someone who can get on Sisi, What are some of the fit stats you are getting on these things? AB Tank pulse mode Kite DPS mode Speed mode Can't get on SiSi to test it out for a week or more due to vacation.
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 944	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:25:39 - [101] - Quote im not going to say that I support a cloak or not, but using these as probers in wormhole space is.. Well it's not smart. This game does need a combat probing ship though. It's value in wormhole pvp hunting is significantly diminished vs using a covops scout. Rest of eve, yea it has value. Wormhole space.. Not so much. I will say this, assuming you use a frig wormhole, raiding other wormholes will be slightly easier, and the possibility of sieging (pretty much bonkers using small guns) is a really remote possibility. It's an alternative. I would like to know why the decision not to by ccp. Combat prober, great. Small and fast, awesome Lack of cloaked hunting in wh space... Umm... I guess... Yaay!!!!
Phoenix Jones Isogen 5 944	Posted - 2014.11.28 03:33:41 - [102] - Quote Lord these don't need a dronebay. Ifntheybwere to do a dronebay in these, I would make it solely a ewar dronebay, and make it race specific. Amarr, energy neutralizing drones (small) Gallente, sensor dampening drones (small) Caldari, Target painting drones (small) Minmatar, web drones (small, lol do they exist? And they would need to be fixed) Left the Ecm drones out because those would be pretty ridiculous to fight against. Yea target painting isn't a caldari feature, but they would benefit the most from the signature bloom of their target. Give the hull a bonus to them. Might as well make those ewar drones do something (besides the ecm ones). Stay wise, 10 bandwidth 30 dronebay size. Have to decide between using 2 smalls or 1 medium. If you wanted a dronebay, it would be something like that, just no Dps drones. Yaay!!!!
ISD Dorrim Barstorlode isd community communications liaisons 3496	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:17:29 - [103] - Quote Removed some off topic posts. ISD Dorrim Barstorlode Captain Community Communication Liaisons (CCLs) Interstellar Services Department
Mharius Skjem Opacity Circles 211	Posted - 2014.11.28 04:57:28 - [104] - Quote Omega Crendraven wrote: When are we seeing Caldari T3 Destroyers? I wouldn't worry too much about that if I was you. As soon as it gets released the process of nerfing it will begin until it becomes the worst in class for all things. That's the point at which it will become a true caldari ship, when it under performs at everything, just like most other caldari ships. A recovering btter vet, with a fresh toon and a determination to like everything that CCP does to Eve... Don't take me too seriously though, I like to tease a bit on the forums, but that's only because I love you...
Catherine Laartii Dominion Fleet Group Templis CALSF 409	Posted - 2014.11.28 05:06:18 - [105] - Quote FT Diomedes wrote: Catherine Laartii wrote: I think the lack of drones or tracking speed bonuses on this ship will make it pretty vulnerable to brawlers getting under its guns. That said, I think it's a good balance to it; i just wish that it had a 20/40 drone bay or a full flight of flights. Idk it just looks like it might have some problems without a tracking speed bonus or a few drones. Not every ship in the game needs a drone bay. Particularly frigate and destroyer hulls. It's a destroyer without a tracking bonus to its guns. Call me old-fashioned, but that seems a little off to me. Adding some drones, especially since it's an amarr boat, doesn't seem too outlandish an idea to me.
Arronicus Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1314	Posted - 2014.11.28 05:43:43 - [106] - Quote FT Diomedes wrote: elitatwo wrote: And what about bubble nullification? No, not a good suggestion. We already enough safe ways to travel. Covert ops cloak is also a bad idea. It would come with too many nerfs to the useful aspects of the ship. A destroyer, in Eve, should destroy things. My thoughts exactly. Ship looks to be in a good role position where it is, without being able to just covert cloak warp all over the place or be immune to bubbles.
Arronicus Fusion Enterprises Ltd Shadow of xXDEATHXx 1314	Posted - 2014.11.28 05:54:24 - [107] - Quote Phoenix Jones wrote: Lord these don't need a dronebay. Ifntheybwere to do a dronebay in these, I would make it solely a ewar dronebay, and make it race specific. Amarr, energy neutralizing drones (small) Gallente, sensor dampening drones (small) Caldari, Target painting drones (small) Minmatar, web drones (small, lol do they exist? And they would need to be fixed) Left the Ecm drones out because those would be pretty ridiculous to fight against. Yea target painting isn't a caldari feature, but they would benefit the most from the signature bloom of their target. Give the hull a bonus to them. Might as well make those ewar drones do something (besides the ecm ones). Stay wise, 10 bandwidth 30 dronebay size. Have to decide between using 2 smalls or 1 medium. If you wanted a dronebay, it would be something like that, just no Dps drones. SW 300s, 600s, and 900s do exist, yes. However: Stasis webification and Energy neutralizing drones are not ewar, they are combat utility drones. You will notice with a little fact checking, that energy neutralization is not electronic warfare in Eve. The four types of ewar drones are: Amarr, tracking disruption Acolyte TD-300 Minmatar, target painting Warrior TP-300 Gallente, sensor dampening Hobgoblin SD-300 Caldari, ecm Hornet EC-300 Honestly, if you're okay with bonused sensor damp drones, but not ecm, that's a little hippocritical, not to mention counter-intuitive to the bonuses e-war frigates and cruisers get for each race. It just doesnt seem right at all, having a ship solely bonused to a type of drone that is made by another race (warriors) That's all a bit irrelevant though when we consider these are tactical destroyers, not E-war dessies, so I think it's safe to say we wont have to worry about such a silly drone bonus.
Semidurr Pancerne Poziomki 2	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:08:24 - [108] - Quote NO to cov-ops cloak on t3 desies. It would be broken in FW area where they will be mostly used. There is enough combat ships that have cov-ops capability. Use them.
Lugh Crow-Slave 235	Posted - 2014.11.28 07:52:50 - [109] - Quote Semidurr wrote: NO to cov-ops cloak on t3 desies. It would be broken in FW area where they will be mostly used. There is enough combat ships that have cov-ops capability. Use them. The t3 cruisers are the only combat with covert cloak the rest even bombers are support ships
Semidurr Pancerne Poziomki 2	Posted - 2014.11.28 08:01:39 - [110] - Quote Lugh Crow-Slave wrote: The t3 cruisers are the only combat with covert cloak the rest even bombers are support ships Stratios for example has great capabilities when it comes to combat and i got no idea why are you calling bombers "support ships" when they are more than capable of wiping out entire fleets.
Daichi Yamato Xero Security and Technologies 2008	Posted - 2014.11.28 08:16:03 - [111] - Quote The lack of tracking may relegate it to sniping, but the alternative means its too strong. basically i anticipate the defensive sub being used little on this particular d3. Other d3's on the other hand will likely behave differently. no thanks to Covert cloak pls. wouldnt mind a small % bonus to mwd sig penalty when using the propulsion mode though. EVE FAQ "7.2 CAN I AVOID PVP COMPLETELY? No; there are no systems or locations in New Eden where PvP may be completely avoided" "So it will be up to a pilot to remain vigilant wherever they may be flying and be ready for anything at any time"
Barton Breau University of Caille Gallente Federation 96	Posted - 2014.11.28 08:16:25 - [112] - Quote Dunno, from afar it looks like a slower coercer + 12.5% damage - tracking, arent we a bit close to home for a "new and flashy" ship?
Gnadolin Space Pioneers Odin's Call 24	Posted - 2014.11.28 09:23:26 - [113] - Quote Stop comparing them with T3 Cruisers, as those are horribly of balance. I would rather like to see Strategic cruisers nerfed to the point where those dessis are compared to their T1 counterparts then the other way round. CCP already admitted that the Strategic Cruisers where a mistake and are far more powerful then initially intendend, just be patient for the "Tiericide" to move on and arrive on them.
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1905	Posted - 2014.11.28 09:54:05 - [114] - Quote Warde Guildencrantz wrote: Can we have at least 1 different mode per race? Don't want every race to have sharpshooter+defence+propulsion and be identical cept for tank and weapons Probably will.. I cannot see sniper mode on all 4. Because range bonus fails for blasters and AC. And peopel will not buy this to replace the trasher as pod killing alpha :P "If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!" For the rest hire PoH \| Recruitment
Kagura Nikon Mentally Assured Destruction The Pursuit of Happiness 1905	Posted - 2014.11.28 09:56:45 - [115] - Quote Seriously.. people complainign this thing to be weak are NUTS. This thing is marvelous for small scale pvp!! I probably will fly one for weeks non stop after they are released. "If brute force does not solve your problem.... then you are surely not using enough!" For the rest hire PoH \| Recruitment
Vulfen Snuff Box Snuffed Out 156	Posted - 2014.11.28 10:11:34 - [116] - Quote Having tested these on SISI quite a bit ive found that it is definately suited to small gang warfare, as a solo boat it does lack in some key areas. but can work as a solo kiter. CCP have set the stats on this just right. my only issue is that it's a little too easy to skill for this. the tactical destroyer skill is a x5 multiplier. and you only need this skill in order to use the ship perfectly. I would like to see the time between switches increases to 20 seconds at base and a skill introduced that reduces it by 10% per level. I would have this skill as a x4 multiplier and require Weapon Upgrades 5 before training.
Ab'del Abu Atlantis Ascendant 107	Posted - 2014.11.28 10:19:33 - [117] - Quote Aebe Amraen wrote: 40m is absurdly cheap for this ship, cheaper than dictor hulls. Please consider doubling or tripling the price. this Also: Obviously those new t3 destroyers should have full t2 resists (BEFORE defensive mode). Change defensive mode to a bonus for active reps/more buffer.
TrouserDeagle Beyond Divinity Inc Shadow Cartel 892	Posted - 2014.11.28 10:59:56 - [118] - Quote lol @ all the 'it's T3, why isn't it overpowered?'
Kesthely Fleet of the Damned Ace of Spades. 168	Posted - 2014.11.28 11:03:58 - [119] - Quote Daichi Yamato wrote: The lack of tracking may relegate it to sniping, but the alternative means its too strong. basically i anticipate the defensive sub being used little on this particular d3. Other d3's on the other hand will likely behave differently. no thanks to Covert cloak pls. wouldnt mind a small % bonus to mwd sig penalty when using the propulsion mode though. Are you kidding me? i'm actually affraid the defensive mode will be to overpowered, it looks like you can put an oversized afterburner on, and with links and implants you'll have a less then 20 sig radius destroyer, capable of doing 180 ish dps @ 10 km while orbiting at roughly 1800 m/s with the option to go switch to go in long range mode and aurora and reach 60 km (although you gain a lot of sig) or beef up your speed to 2.5km/s With the combination of insane resists, (base T2, 33% defensive + modules & Link) you'll be at over 80% accross the board with probably at least 2 in the 90's and that for a price of roughly 50-60 m fitted. And this is all BEFORE you overheat
Armin Arraeb Confidential Intelligence Service 24	Posted - 2014.11.28 11:10:44 - [120] - Quote Hi All First of all thx to CCP for the very nice looking and interesting Confessor. I only have one issue to report: If you put on all Turrets, there are still 4 empty Turret Hardpoints on the Model. Isn't it possible to just display (only graphical, on the Model) one Turret as three (instead of two, as normal), as you did that on the Hawk for example? I know it is not that important, but I like it when Ships look fully equipped and not half empty...

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