Why can it fit an expanded probe launcher?
Sure core launcher is sufficient if it's meant to probe down wormholes and all that.

So instead, you made a ship that further trivialises Cov Ops frigates.

Cheers.

No, actually expecting a Cov Ops frigate balance pass. Time to put those combat bonuses to good use.

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This thing can give ongrid warps in combat. This thing sure as hell can't scan down hard signatures. Or do you see a scan probe strength bonus?

Hard signatures.
Such as wormholes that I referred to? Which would be difficult? Cos I see plenty of non-bonused hulls doing that.

I'm not sure what your statement is. I am aware that it can provide on grid warp ins - I clearly asked why this ship can fit expanded launchers. I do not see how it's justified that it can because there are dedicated ships for that.

Because you need expanded launchers for combat probes? What are you getting at?

There is no dedicated combat proper. Not a single one . It is either a gimp fit dictor or a cloaky.

This will be the FIRST ship in eve that can scan something, Warp to it, and hold it while backup lands.

That there is no reason why it should have that ability considering it's strong combat focus and the presence of other ship roles.
You've named 2 just now, although the cloaky is what its meant to be.
It will also be a ship that can do the job of 2 ships. Scan something, warp to it and kill it.

You don't become a dedicated combat scanning ship because you have reduction to the CPU. You are just given a free ticket to equip it with no difficulties.
And thats on a ship that will have the same range as a slicer, will go just as fast as a slicer, will deal the damage of two slicers, will be able to probe, point and kill.

Well, it's without a tracking comp.

T3's are meant to be versatile. A Probe fitting bonus is part of that versatility. Now if they would give such a bonus to any T1 or T2 ships..... Then we could certainly say it's not more powerful than T2's and is right where it should be.
Combat probing has long been overly restricted and effectively forced alts to be used for it by the gimped fits it creates on non T3's.

the corm DOES have a total of a 100% optimal bonus, and if I'm not mistaken, rails still have a relatively longer optimal range.

I really enjoyed using the probes on the test server. I would actually like to see the bonus Applied to more ships or the requirements of the probe launcher reduced.

Likewise, it's an inspired choice of bonus for the ship.
and easier to fit combat probes would be a godsend imo.

You've named 2 just now, although the cloaky is what its meant to be.
It will also be a ship that can do the job of 2 ships. Scan something, warp to it and kill it.

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the corm DOES have a total of a 100% optimal bonus, and if I'm not mistaken, rails still have a relatively longer optimal range.

I finally downloaded EFT just to take a look (can't seem to get up to date values on the wiki) and here's what I found:
(with max skills)

Small Focused Beam Laser II: 7.5+5
125mm Railgun II: 10+9.4
150mm Railgun II: 14+11

It looks like 150mm rails have DOUBLE the base range of small focused beam lasers!

Personally, I'd like to see probes reworked completely, so that you just fire a bunch of the things off in all directions, they give you results on static things and then self-destruct. The current probe scanning system is another one of those tedious game mechanics, where you need to diddle repeatedly with the position, radius and overlap of the probes - push a button, then do it again, and again, until you get a result. Interesting to do a few times, but becomes an annoying chore over the long haul. Obviously, the UI team felt the same way, which is why they added the ability to preconfigure probe patterns, more easily move a group of probes around, etc. - but these are just patches on something that should be replaced.

Now, I'd really like to see the ability to launch a combat probe and have it follow someone's ship, so you can track them down. This would be a lot more fun than using locator agents, and also allow the addition of other new mechanics/modules to mess with probes (use signal boosters to scan for and blow them up, use warp speed rigs to outrun them, use cloaks to give false readings, etc).

Role Bonus:
95% reduction in Scan Probe Launcher CPU requirements

Please fix this so it reads "95% reduction in combat probe launcher CPU requirements", since that's what we're guessing you mean.

Scan Probe Launcher is the module group, to which Expanded Probe Launchers belong, ofc.
So the current wording is pretty good.

Please fix this so it reads "95% reduction in combat probe launcher CPU requirements", since that's what we're guessing you mean.

This thing isn't a souped up T1 destroyer, it's a souped up Interdictor. Resist profile + other stats look more like T2 dessie than T1 dessie. Fleets of these things are going to rule everywhere. They will clear out support ships like nobody's business and make fleet warfare very monolithic. Small plexes just got real boring as well.

Just saying, neither of those is dedicated to be an on-grid combat scanner. One has the task of catching and holding supercaps, and the fact that it ongrid probes is just a result of it not bothering with guns since it's not going to be doing **** for damage with all its tank.
The other is not a combat ship. It's at most a support ship that can help its fleet get into position with ongrid fleet warps. It is far better in its role of scanning down lone ships, finding sigs/sites, and hacking and the sort. It's not really a dedicated ongrid prober/warper.

No toes are being stepped on here. The Confesser will never be able to scan down an OGB or any other decently "hidden" ship.




125% my dear.

Something to remember is that when there are multiple bonuses to the same stat, they compound on each other. 1 * 1.5 * 1.5 = 2.25

The more I fly this ship on sisi the more I am feel like this is the destroyer version of a retribution, with one distinction, in speed mode, this thing can be wicked fast (and it doesn't suffer from 2 midslot syndrome but lets just ignore that). With only one week before this patch goes live I feel like there is little to no chance that we will see any changes in this ship before it goes out to the wider eve population. While I was previously advocating for a tracking bonus on this ship (and well my inner desire for a solopwnmobile still wants it) I think that in an ironic twist, the T3 destroyers are being designed to have poor damage application on small ships on purpose (or this one is anyway). I would still like to see a bonus other than cap usage on the ship as I think Amarr ships having half the combat bonuses of the other races is rather lazy and unbalanced. Perhaps a 5%/level to turret optimal, or maybe even something more interesting like nos/neut range/amount (on the order of the dragoon) would be interesting (just spit balling ideas here really). Just saying it now though, if the next ones come out with real bonuses like damage/tracking or damage/range instead of some faux bonuses like warp speed/drone hp, a shoe will be thrown.