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Esiel Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.10 10:13:00 - [901] Edited by: Esiel on 10/01/2009 10:14:37 900+ lets make it millennium. . . . . . If you think CSM should bring this up again then please go to this link and suport the Reexamining of the dead horse * * *
Murkelost Swedish Aerospace Inc G00DFELLAS	Posted - 2009.01.10 11:36:00 - [902] This is splendid work Evelgrivion! Really nice work with the pictures and the thorough walk through in this post. I hope this will be implemented someday.
Acrel Amarr makaveli Inc	Posted - 2009.01.10 11:39:00 - [903] Has this even been brought up recently agian by the CSM or has it kindof been a lost cause thats been kickin for what 3 years now?
Syberbolt8 Gallente Gen Tec Arcos Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.11 16:55:00 - [904] Edited by: Syberbolt8 on 11/01/2009 17:04:14 Originally by: Acrel Has this even been brought up recently agian by the CSM or has it kindof been a lost cause thats been kickin for what 3 years now? Originally by: LaVista Vista Originally by: Jinx Barker he he he... I figured, at least answer me this: Was the "DEAD HORSE" discussed? If it was discussed, we will hear, at some point, what the deal is. That is all I want to know at this moment. It wasn't discussed directly due to CCP's initial response. However, it WAS refered to quite a few times in discussion about other mechanics. The First CSM said they would bring it up with CCP at there first trip to Iceland, and it was somehow forgot. The 2nd trip they made they decided that because CCP had made the comet that it was to hard a project to work on, they wouldn't even bring it up, so in truth this has never officaly hit CCP via the CSM in open channels likes it was supposed to. Much to the failuare of the CSM for allowing that to happen, I think it needs to go to CCP with the new CSM and CCP needs to give a real answer, yes or no, and why. And As long as I am around, myself like many others wont let this thread go forgotten, Out of all the posts on these forums I have never ran into an Idea post that had so many people supporting it and so few denouncing it. And CCP almost ignores it completely.
Asar Starwind	Posted - 2009.01.12 19:18:00 - [905] Correct me if I'm wrong, but info released at fanfest indicates that the dead spaces found through wormholes will be colonizable, with structures that will include inputs/outputs (T3 manufacturing?). I don't know weather this will use the current POS modules, or implement something different. Apocrypha comes out in two months (March 10), so we shall see. Hopefully these will be our T2/3 POS - and maybe they will count as mini-stations when WIS comes out. But probably not. I can only hope that this is an intermediate step towards a total rewrite of the moon POS system.
Syberbolt8 Gallente Gen Tec Arcos Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.13 16:28:00 - [906] Edited by: Syberbolt8 on 13/01/2009 16:37:17 Originally by: Asar Starwind Correct me if I'm wrong, but info released at fanfest indicates that the dead spaces found through wormholes will be colonizable, with structures that will include inputs/outputs (T3 manufacturing?). I don't know weather this will use the current POS modules, or implement something different. Apocrypha comes out in two months (March 10), so we shall see. Hopefully these will be our T2/3 POS - and maybe they will count as mini-stations when WIS comes out. But probably not. I can only hope that this is an intermediate step towards a total rewrite of the moon POS system. there should never, and I mean never be t2 pos's that would be crap, IMO, I can however live with tier 2 pos's, costs more, takes longer to anchor but comes with some bonus to indy. Each race can have its own bonus, like bonus to labs or reactions for caldari, bonus to refining for mimatar. etc, and let the pvp crowed keep there stick and bubble pos's. Remove the use of miners, and indy equipment on current pos's, only defensive and sov items should be allowed.
Esiel Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.14 20:20:00 - [907] I wonder how many people suport this idea but have given up hope of CCP doing anything about it.
Vitrael Reaper Industries Eternal Rapture	Posted - 2009.01.14 21:03:00 - [908] This thread was made the week I started playing Eve, more than 2 years ago... And it's still an awesome idea.
F90OEX F9X	Posted - 2009.01.15 20:07:00 - [909] Well considering this thread goes back from 2006 and mentioned in one of the pages that in 2008 (already passed) that major changes where coming to pos warfare and in 2009 its still pounding on a silly bubble lol ...
CommanderData211	Posted - 2009.01.17 12:17:00 - [910] bump

Namen Reserch	Posted - 2009.01.19 18:26:00 - [911] bump this is a good idea
luckyshot KrayZ Inc Eradication Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.19 19:02:00 - [912] if u looking at re-designing poses u could incorporate these ideas: http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=975946
Seth Ruin Minmatar Ominous Corp Ethereal Dawn	Posted - 2009.01.19 20:46:00 - [913] I'm about ready to give up on the devs of this game... http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=967107&page=2#32
Leanne Esiel Vinyl Roid	Posted - 2009.01.23 01:48:00 - [914] Edited by: Leanne Esiel on 23/01/2009 01:49:16 One fine morning in the middle of the night Two dead men began to fight They drew their swords and shot each other Back to back they faced each other One deaf policeman heard the noise And came and killed the two dead boys And if you don't believe this tale Go ask the blind man, He saw it too. The dead horse will never Die!
Xialis NQX Innovations	Posted - 2009.01.23 06:58:00 - [915] I have read a good deal but not all of the 31 pages of this thread but for what it is worth: T3 will be using modular pieces for ships, could this not be implemented into design of POS towers. Yes, this is very close to the original idea presented here but may require fewer models to be created. Starting with the basic tower module, you add a factory/lab/whatever module(I'll use factory modules as an example) to that, it is build up like a t3 ship, with larger factory module having more factory slots within the one module rather than multiples of the first factory module. So this: Tower-base-module+factory module I (2 manufacturing slots) [{tower}FM I] is upgradeable to: Tower-base-module+factory module II (4 manufacturing slots) [{tower}FM II] Rather than [{tower}FM I, FM I] Guns etc stay outside the shield. In anycase I support a complete overhaul of POS. /me kicks the dead horse HARD!
CaptainSpock211	Posted - 2009.01.25 03:44:00 - [916] Then one day the heavens opened up, and a modular POS system arrived in New Eden Here's to keeping the dream alive. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Live Long and Prosper, unless you're one of those pinko Romulans!!
Zarak1 Kenpach1 R.E.C.O.N.	Posted - 2009.01.25 05:08:00 - [917] tip of the hat to this person for such a well thought out proposal. ccp seems one of the less traditional gaming corps so maybe just maybe they will look at this and take something away from it
Th0rG0d Caldari	Posted - 2009.01.25 06:26:00 - [918] Originally by: CCP Abathur Bump! This thread has been seen and looked over several times by the Dev team. It's a very bold and interesting proposal. However any change like this would require a massive amount of development in both programming and artwork. It's not something that could happen overnight. Having said that, we're well aware of the current state of starbase warfare and it's one of our top post-Trinity priorities for overhaul. Hmmmm, just came across this thread, cus mostly I don't read forums but of late. Dev responded "top priority" in September 2007, yet here it is 2009, and I am still looking at a stick bubble. I hate to see what is on the lower priorities........
Syberbolt8 Gallente Gen Tec Arcos Alliance	Posted - 2009.01.25 20:24:00 - [919] Hey look this post is on the first page!!, oh wait...
Bristal Bane	Posted - 2009.01.25 21:30:00 - [920] I agree with the topic, PoS's do need a overhaul :) The posters idea would make it easy to move in a pos and so much more.

Ancy Denaries Caldari Solaris Operations	Posted - 2009.01.26 06:44:00 - [921] flogs the dead horse some more Balance is important, but you will always adapt to changing circumstances and you don't whine about stuff you can't change.
Razar51	Posted - 2009.01.28 01:01:00 - [922] save from page 4
Dr Prometheus Caldari Gears of Construction	Posted - 2009.01.28 13:48:00 - [923] Dead horse was drowning again... - Dude where is my Charon? -
Malen Nenokal Eden Federal Recon	Posted - 2009.01.29 06:48:00 - [924] I think this needs a bump. This thread should be stickied actually, until it has come to fruition! Eden Federal Recon
Kal Shanai	Posted - 2009.01.29 21:41:00 - [925] Agreeing totally with the last poster, sticky this as this is one of the most overdue, one of the most needed, and one of the most wanted, changes to make.
Phienta Caldari Supernova Security Systems	Posted - 2009.01.29 22:37:00 - [926] Originally by: Malen Nenokal I think this needs a bump. This thread should be stickied actually, until it has come to fruition! Agreed, but they won't sticky something of this nature. However it could make it into the main "Everyone asks for this" part of the existing stickies. But totally worth its own IMO.
Jinx Barker Caldari GFB Scientific	Posted - 2009.01.31 14:15:00 - [927] Well, I am back after my break, and I am really happy others have taken up the cause. CCP needs to come out here and talk to us, this issue will not go away, POS needs to be redone from the ground up. Keep it up guys, the longer this going on, the better chances there might be a dev out there who actually gives a crap about what players need, forget want, need and have been needing for 3 Christmases now. Lovely thought, that the only dev post is from a year ago or so.... nice going. But, don't forget, CSM voted to implement musical instruments into EVE, and CCP said OK, but, revamp of the POS, naww, who needs it. What a joke.
Sinooko	Posted - 2009.02.01 09:16:00 - [928] Awesome! I would love a system like that.
DarkRavin hirr Morsus Mihi	Posted - 2009.02.01 10:24:00 - [929] Looks good : /signed
Deleware	Posted - 2009.02.01 10:38:00 - [930] absolutly signed! This would make POS fun again, and they need a workover anyways. I can't begin to number all the bugs the POS system had/still has.



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Reexamining of the dead horse