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Marvin Jones
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Posted - 2006.09.20 13:08:00 -
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I like that idea about the switch, but is there a way to be a pain-in-the-ass en masse (hey that rhymes!) to make CCP listen?
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Karen Dark
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Posted - 2006.09.20 14:03:00 -
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Edited by: Karen Dark on 20/09/2006 14:03:31
Originally by: Marvin Jones I like that idea about the switch, but is there a way to be a pain-in-the-ass en masse (hey that rhymes!) to make CCP listen?
The only way to get them to listen it to hit them where it hurts. In the pocketbook.
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UKM Thorgrim
Singularity.
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:02:00 -
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Edited by: UKM Thorgrim on 20/09/2006 17:02:41 Cancelled My account only down side i paid for a years sub. ú100.00 and got to wait until 6 march 2007 for it to finish.. What a waste of My hard earned cash... pity CCP wont refund, it to me..
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EvilDoomer
Caldari Chicago Mobsters Veritas Immortalis
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Posted - 2006.09.20 17:11:00 -
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Originally by: UKM Thorgrim Edited by: UKM Thorgrim on 20/09/2006 17:02:41 Cancelled My account only down side i paid for a years sub. ú100.00 and got to wait until 6 march 2007 for it to finish.. What a waste of My hard earned cash... pity CCP wont refund, it to me..
I have 3.5 years in this game. And to me CCP dont care.
Thanks
EvilDoomer
Chicago Mobsters In-Game Channel:DAMOB
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Z4yl
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Posted - 2006.09.20 19:24:00 -
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Time to fix it , or face the consequences CCP ... Ive been playing this game for only a half a year (now playing 2 acc¦s) but ... If these lags wont stop this game will die ...
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Bobby Atlas
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Posted - 2006.09.20 20:54:00 -
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Lag has always been noticable and iv never really complained about it. But since dragon patch the increased lag and disconnects have become unacceptable, as paying clients we not only demand but expect a better quality of service from you CCP.
I have never lost a ship to lag/disconnection untill yesterday - ratting in a lachesis and suddenly disconnected, log back on to receive notice system i am in is full, placed in line to enter system - 5 mins later i get into system and find myself in a pod - there goes a lachesis and 2 shadow serp hardeners.
All-in-all i can recover from such a loss but it is ever SO frustrating the circumstances that caused the loss - not a PvP gank, not my ISP, not even my stupidity taking on things i shouldnt - rather CCP quality of service.
I have canceled the month-to-month on 2 of my alt characters and have simply relegated to 1 character now till CCP gets things fixed or till i get so fedup that i cancel my last character.
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:06:00 -
[307]
This situation reminds me of Southpark the movie.
"****ing Windows 98. Bring Bill Gates in here! I thought you said this was supposed to be better."
"It is! It's 1,000 times bet--" *blam*
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Scoobac
Minmatar
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:31:00 -
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Cancelled.
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Apoc Mudekii
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Posted - 2006.09.20 21:31:00 -
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k i'm outa hear, games to crap with the current situation...... Account cancelled.
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Hornious1
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:11:00 -
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Unfortunately for me the last few weeks I have had more time to play than anytime in the last year. I try to get on when the player count is low but even that doesn't really help anymore. I was doing some long hauls last night and I found having Instas didn't help a bit because each gate jump lag 20sec. I was better off setting autopilot and walking away for 30 minutes. I lost a Raven a few nights ago for the same reason. Came through a gate that was camped, but because of the long pause I was jammed and scrammed before I ever knew any ships were there. Just had to set and watch it blow. Opened a petition so hopefully I will have reimbursement in the next three months or so, lol. Very promising to see hotfixes rolled out at downtime and then see a server reboot hours later to rollback the hotfix.
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Reggie Hamond
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Posted - 2006.09.20 22:46:00 -
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This is my first post on the forum and will probably be my last. I will try to keep it short so that people don't get too upset at about what I am about to say.
Here is the deal. I have only been playing for about 3 weeks now. I skipped the trial account and bought the game from the eve-online site directly. Yes sometimes the lag is bad. Yes sometimes even I get dropped, and yes I have even been almost wiped out twice.
If all of you that keep threatening to cancel, stop threatening and cancel. It doesn't do ANYTHING except fill the forum with useless complaining. Nobody cares if you are a veteran of 2 or 3 years and are going to cancel, because Eve will still be here. CCP will continue to do what they have been doing for the last 3 years. I personally am in it for the long haul irreguardless of the lag issues, or the crashes or the downtime.
CCP has also made every effort to explain to you what is happening, and to tell you what is coming (ie DEV BLOGS). They are also making every effort to fix the problems that are occuring. But you must also understand the nature of what Eve is under the hood. I would venture to guess several several million lines of code to start with. Being a light duty programmer myself (largest project ~648,000 lines of code) I understand human nature to make a mistake (You can not tell me that you type everything in and have NEVER had to hit your backspace key). I also understand that trying to find one single mistake in even a 650k line program takes a VERY VERY VERY LONG TIME. Even a large team of programmers may still have difficulty in locating the exact cause of the problem within a small amount of time (except if they get lucky).
My suggestion is this. If you think that for one minute you can write a 3D application or a 3D game in the same scale as Eve, go right ahead. I'm sure in about 15 years you'll finally get the framework down.
Personally, I am just tired of jumping on the forums when I can't connect to find out if it's down and for how long, and not getting those answers, but a bunch of complaining about downtime and threats to cancel.
My piece being said, I will continue to wait until it comes up and then I will go back to playing.
All I ask is that people use the forums for what they are for. Not to blast people for doing their job as fast as they can.
Keep up the good work CCP. I am behind you 110%
-Wolf
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rayrock
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Posted - 2006.09.20 23:32:00 -
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This is pretty much the best MMO there is right now.
I played WoW and got to end game. If you think leaving this to go to WoW will be a great change for you then im sorry but you are choosing the wrong path. The PVP in this game is way more heart pounding and meaningful than in WoW. I really hope you guys dont consider going to that ****ty ***** like addicing game. This game will only continue to get better and the lag (No matter what any of you say) is a temporary thing.
"ZOMG SERVERS LAGGING CCP YOU SUCK FIX LAG OR I QUIT OK I JUST CANCELLED MY ACCT IM GONNA PLAY WOW"
They know. This thread isnt stealthy and hidden. Theres an obvious reason why they wont reply. Its ok because you are gamers and in all honestly you cant even come close to understanding how hard it is to do what they do. They wouldnt risk this game by giving only 50% effort here. I guarentee they are working 100% and you guy continuing to babble the same stuff accomplishes nothing.
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Recon777
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Posted - 2006.09.21 03:38:00 -
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I think its absolutely hilarious (and tragic) that after all the hype about how bookmark copying was "bringing the servers to their knees" that when they finally did nerf bookmark copying it made NO improvements. There were way better solutions to the bookmark issue than a nerf. They could have implemented a "warp drive accuracy" skill, along with an advanced skill counterpart, letting people learn how to warp closer than 15km. That would have rocked.
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Kit Torn
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Posted - 2006.09.21 04:59:00 -
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one thing that can be said for lag in EVE is the lag in WoW was far far worse
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Blank Protection
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Posted - 2006.09.21 05:19:00 -
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Edited by: Blank Protection on 21/09/2006 05:20:23 Bunch of w.a.n.k.e.r.s. Whatever the reason may be, gameplay of eve just sucks and getting wurser with the day. Patch after patch giving only more problems than solutions. Even with only 8-15 players in local i have lag. Doing missions is a hell. But this game is for all of you an obsession, a drug and you can`t stop with it.
CCP nows that because cancelling your subscripsion is something else as terminating your account. So stop saying, if CCP not listen to me i cancell my account, because 9 out of 10 players wont do that. They cant stop this game. Otherweise just say ****off to Eve and CCP and terminate not cancel your account. Man CCP is laughting there ass of when reading all your bluffing. I feel sorry for those guys who are already playing for 2-3 years but getting more than 20.000 players in game at the same time is asking for problems. And the lag yeah you just have to quit playing or learn to life with it because they just cant fix it. And if they do 5000 players and patches more and you are in the same s**t again.
Ps* First account already terminated. This one in about 10 hours.Im back to Battlefield where i was laughting my ass of everyday.
F*** this game.
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Dissolutor
Minmatar District of Power
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Posted - 2006.09.21 08:19:00 -
[316]
Account subscription cancelled...
With text: "Too much lag"
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Timura
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Posted - 2006.09.21 09:24:00 -
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Lol Fanboys are funny, "Go ahead, quit, CCP doesn't care".... Wanna bet? Thats less income, bad reputation, and that's just the ones that have Cancelled AND posted here. I'd be interested in seeing some numbers of the accounts that have been cancelled since this storm started. You fanboys have your fun and pretend you know everything and i'll tell you what i know. i KNOW Lag has been problem with this game for the past 3 (that's after 1 and 2) YEARS....It just keeps getting worse. I've been playing this game a long time, off and on. But i can honestly say, if this doesn't get cleared up, this capsuleer is gonna jet too...and for EVERY account cancelled on THIS thread, i bet there's 4 or 5 cancelling that's not posting. So you Fanboys enjoy your addiction for now, we'll see if you think CCP doesn't care about lost accounts when they turn the server off for the last time.
PS. FIX YOUR GAME CCP
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Extregar Qvint
Caldari JuBa Corp
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Posted - 2006.09.21 10:07:00 -
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Originally by: UKM Thorgrim Cancelled My account only down side i paid for a years sub. ú100.00 and got to wait until 6 march 2007 for it to finish.. What a waste of My hard earned cash... pity CCP wont refund, it to me..
Too bad that you are leaving Thorgrim, remember you from back in SAK.
Anyway... i think CCP is finally realizing how serious this matter is for a vast majority of the playerbase. And therefor not until now ample measures are being taken to solve these critical issues. Sadly i think it is in the eleventh hour as i know several ppl, just like Thorgrim above, who have cancelled/taking a break until the game is fixed.
Last week i have noticed the game geting smoother, but it might as well be a result of less ppl logging on
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Amgard
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Posted - 2006.09.21 14:53:00 -
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*Amgard donates 2 brand new, unopened Hamsters and a wheel to CCP.
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Hornious1
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Posted - 2006.09.21 15:20:00 -
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Edited by: Hornious1 on 21/09/2006 15:21:26 I love the "fanboy" post especially from 3 weeks old players, lol. This one is my favorite, "CCP has also made every effort to explain to you what is happening, and to tell you what is coming (ie DEV BLOGS)". How exactly did you determine this in the few weeks you have been playing. This problem has been around long before you came to the game. The lag problem got really bad with Dragon but it was weeks before the Dev Blog mentioned anything about it. How about you go to the top of this forum and look at the sticky for "Known Issues" last updated in June. Not a single reply since then on the known issues or resolutions. How about you look at the petitions from thousands of players that go unanswered for weeks if not months. I have one from June still pending, not one reply yet.
Next time your cable TV, cell phone, or internet goes out don't call the provider and complain because they are doing everything they can to restore the service. And if you happen to have problems over weeks or years it's the same story, it's not their fault they are trying really hard. Lol, must be hard for fanboys to be such quiet, good little customers who never complain about anything.
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Timura
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Posted - 2006.09.21 18:51:00 -
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Originally by: Hornious1 Edited by: Hornious1 on 21/09/2006 15:21:26 I love the "fanboy" post especially from 3 weeks old players, lol. This one is my favorite, "CCP has also made every effort to explain to you what is happening, and to tell you what is coming (ie DEV BLOGS)". How exactly did you determine this in the few weeks you have been playing. This problem has been around long before you came to the game. The lag problem got really bad with Dragon but it was weeks before the Dev Blog mentioned anything about it. How about you go to the top of this forum and look at the sticky for "Known Issues" last updated in June. Not a single reply since then on the known issues or resolutions. How about you look at the petitions from thousands of players that go unanswered for weeks if not months. I have one from June still pending, not one reply yet.
Next time your cable TV, cell phone, or internet goes out don't call the provider and complain because they are doing everything they can to restore the service. And if you happen to have problems over weeks or years it's the same story, it's not their fault they are trying really hard. Lol, must be hard for fanboys to be such quiet, good little customers who never complain about anything.
Amen to that. PS. Semi Bump, i think half way down the page is too far.
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Skyly
Syndicate Of Shadows
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Posted - 2006.09.21 19:03:00 -
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Uh oh...
When theres 2 people in a low sec system and you have to wait 30 minutes in a queue to get back in, you KNOW something is bad
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.21 19:59:00 -
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Allow me to channel Grez for a moment:
It's not the system that's the problem, it's the node. If you had two brain cells to rub together, you'd know that, and it'd be a perfectly reasonable explanation requiring no action on CCP's part to remedy. Since it's not the system's fault, there's nothing wrong. The node is crashing? The node is lagging? The node-balancing is crap? Whatever.
I love you CCP. *slurp*
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Regel
Gallente Skyborne Exploration
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Posted - 2006.09.22 01:07:00 -
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Ever since that last abysmal patch I've been having problems logging in. I often have to try 2 or 3 times, exiting EVE and re-entering my password each time. Tonight, with only 17,000 people on the system I'm having to do it over and over again with no success at all. I've tried 12 times so far.
This is unacceptable.
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Cown
Caldari Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2006.09.22 11:52:00 -
[325]
No, i'm not gonna let this thread go to the next page.. bump ffs.
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Heikki
Gallente Wreckless Abandon
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Posted - 2006.09.22 12:32:00 -
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Sometimes I wonder if there is some other server all these lagged people play..
Personally having very little lag (apart from big fleet fights, which I try to avoid). I don't hear my corp mates complaining about lag much either. Even my occasional trips to Empire core (Jita) go reasonably smoothly.
Then again, the thread has some 12k views, with far less than 3% of them posting about lag experiences..
Naturally, if the lag makes all aspects of the game really unenjoyable, you really have to cancel. Just make sure you write down the lag as the reason. And perhaps come back after a little while to see if it got better.
Not much point in making accusing threads. Unless you subscribe to the doctrine by which paying for something gives you moral right to yell, cuss and be general jerk.
-Lasse Oh, I sure hope CCP gets things fixes so everyone can play; the more the merrier
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Iona Saldana
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Posted - 2006.09.22 13:01:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki Sometimes I wonder if there is some other server all these lagged people play..
Personally having very little lag (apart from big fleet fights, which I try to avoid). I don't hear my corp mates complaining about lag much either. Even my occasional trips to Empire core (Jita) go reasonably smoothly.
Then again, the thread has some 12k views, with far less than 3% of them posting about lag experiences..
Naturally, if the lag makes all aspects of the game really unenjoyable, you really have to cancel. Just make sure you write down the lag as the reason. And perhaps come back after a little while to see if it got better.
Not much point in making accusing threads. Unless you subscribe to the doctrine by which paying for something gives you moral right to yell, cuss and be general jerk.
-Lasse Oh, I sure hope CCP gets things fixes so everyone can play; the more the merrier
I think it would be peeps not being ar$ed to post, rather than not suffering at all. There is a definate issue with code that was introduced in Dragon, nothing to do with server load due to number of poeple on. I haven't bothered doing missions are any PvP since it was introduced - too many boots to want to risk either ship or laptop being thrown in frustration. Things had been getting better but last night in only a couple of hours of play I had 2 complete client freezes due to dodgy jump gates, which did seem to sort itself out. Both systems had no more than 20 players in.
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Hornious1
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Posted - 2006.09.22 18:48:00 -
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You know it is bad when they can't even get the web page right. Anyone else notice it takes 1-2 minutes for the Eve home page to load up and this is after seeing web page maintenance alerts the last few weeks.
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Phoenix Lonestar
Litanies of Hate
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Posted - 2006.09.22 20:29:00 -
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Originally by: Heikki Sometimes I wonder if there is some other server all these lagged people play..
Personally having very little lag (apart from big fleet fights, which I try to avoid). I don't hear my corp mates complaining about lag much either. Even my occasional trips to Empire core (Jita) go reasonably smoothly.
Then again, the thread has some 12k views, with far less than 3% of them posting about lag experiences..
Naturally, if the lag makes all aspects of the game really unenjoyable, you really have to cancel. Just make sure you write down the lag as the reason. And perhaps come back after a little while to see if it got better.
Not much point in making accusing threads. Unless you subscribe to the doctrine by which paying for something gives you moral right to yell, cuss and be general jerk.
-Lasse Oh, I sure hope CCP gets things fixes so everyone can play; the more the merrier
If there are 20 people who check the status of this thread 3 times a day, that's 60 views per day. If you multiply that by the age of the thread (approx 12 days) then you get 720 hit right there. So there's probably a lot of repeat traffic, and that's combined with what our good friend said about people not actually posting. The overall game traffic has seen a vast decrease in the average concurrent users in the last few days, which tells me that there are a lot of people who have suspended their accounts/stopped playing in the hopes that lag will get better. Usually there'd be about 17k people when I normally sign in. Last night there were 15. And when there are normally 15, it was down just under 12k.
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Jack Creme
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Posted - 2006.09.23 10:16:00 -
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I had a nice, reasonably troble free couple of hours this morning from 0500 to about 0800 Eve - apart from a couple of CTD's that is. As the numbers started to rise traffic queing started at gates in or around Aramachi, docking/undocking slowed to a crawl as did doing things in a station. Eventually couldn't undock.
Logged off for b'fast. Came back 30 mins later to find I was #15 in a queue to get into the system. Gave up after waiting for <shrug> a long time.
Managed to get back on an hour later - but game play was, well, miserable.
Giving up until after DT - to see how it feels. But if its the same... I'll leave Eve alone for a while. Play something else... clean the windows... talk to the kids...
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