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Hecatanidi
Eridu Productions
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:01:31 -
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I want WiS
Sorry if it annoys ppl.
EvE is the most beautifully designes space game available by far. Why not just walk around corridors and enjoy the view. @CCP: Just make sure you don't forget portholes. |

LancashireUK
Volition Cult The Volition Cult
4
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:26:52 -
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Hecatanidi wrote:I want WiS
Sorry if it annoys ppl.
EvE is the most beautifully designes space game available by far. Why not just walk around corridors and enjoy the view. @CCP: Just make sure you don't forget portholes.
So do I. I was looking forward to WIS, and I was hoping in the future we would be able to land on planets and take a look around. I understand though that WIS was a tester for their WoD MMO that they gave up on.
IMO CCP has the best space MMO at the moment, they just need to add more to attract new people and keep current subscribers entertained. I can see SC taking a few EVE players as it seems to be offering quite a wide variety of gameplay options in a space sim, ie. Pilot, FPS, crafting, trading, exploring, landing on planets, etc. with the option of viewing your character or not.
talkGEEK || The Volition Cult
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Jenn aSide
Ascendent. Test Alliance Please Ignore
12866
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Posted - 2015.11.03 15:30:10 -
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Malcanis wrote:Cahir Ceallach wrote:CCP,
You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.
Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.
They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T Why is this so hard for people to accept?
I too used to bang my head against the same brick wall . I don't know all WiS advocates and don't claim to, this is just an observation, something i see in the ones that post in these forums: They just aren't the pragmatic type. They are 'dreamer' types and when you are a dreamer, anything is possible for you (don't let objective reality tell you otherwise!).
People who feel that way about themselves (again, regardless of any evidence to the contrary, notice all the 'dreamers' who claim to be actors despite their 15 year tenure at this fine and totally high class eating establishment) , they think it's also true of everyone else, including CCP. So to them, all CCP has to do is just believe in themselves really really hard and BAM, next thing you know, WiS.
TL;DR, it's no use telling them what you told them even though it's actually true. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
2369
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Posted - 2015.11.03 17:57:22 -
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Why hasn't Dust been better integrated with WiS? There is already all that code there that we could be using.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1008
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:21:14 -
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dust? o god here we go again. Wis holy ****. Thats was the old stuff now. The want it pay to win sp isk game. Rage there please do not reopen a old threat is a dead topic. |

Jenshae Chiroptera
2369
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Posted - 2015.11.03 18:49:43 -
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Dust is officially profitable. Not a huge success but they are in the green now.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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ReptilesBlade
KarmaFleet Goonswarm Federation
73
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:39:55 -
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Kuronaga wrote:Malcanis wrote:Cahir Ceallach wrote:CCP,
You deploy ship skinks, you deploy clothes.
Why do you don't relase you can get new customers from star citizen players.
They are fascinate about walking on stations, walking on ship, and walkings of planets. We wanna real sandbox. BECAUSE THEY CAN'T Why is this so hard for people to accept? Probably because nobody with even a shred of sense believes them when they say that. Optimizations were certainly necessary, but it could be done. Graphic card tech has also advanced quite a bit since the summer of rage. The stress can be handled much better for most users. The reason it hasn't been done is because it became not a priority, not because it was an unsolvable dilemma. Hilmar got burned in a big way and he was terrified of even approaching the subject again.
As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall.
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Jenshae Chiroptera
2369
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Posted - 2015.11.03 23:45:44 -
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ReptilesBlade wrote: As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall. I was there. WiS was disappointing but potential of "gold ammo" / "gold ships" and monocles where the real rage.
CCP - Building ant hills and magnifying glasses for fat kids
There are other ways to fix Null Sec stagnation and Fozzie SOV is the wrong approach.
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Hal Morsh
Hmmzor. Battlecruisin' Space Goats
437
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Posted - 2015.11.13 12:32:12 -
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Jenshae Chiroptera wrote:ReptilesBlade wrote: As someone who fully participated in the summer of rage it is as it should be. Hilmar needs to be terrified of us, because if he does something like that again we wont be just calling for his head we will be mounting it outside the keeps wall. I was there. WiS was disappointing but potential of "gold ammo" / "gold ships" and monocles where the real rage. I was pretty pissed off that my 8800 GTX seemed fine, I AFK with the Captain's Quarters running (you couldn't chose ship spinning at that point), come back later and it was fried.
Don't worry. I had an 8800gtx (the one with the massive fan?) and one day I started up my computer and the fan didn't spin, thing ******* melted.
Dun'Gal > Hal is simply an imperfect ai, though if drunkeness ever gets programmed into ai's I foresee both a hilarious and tragic end to humanity.
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Persifonne
The Scope Gallente Federation
66
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Posted - 2015.11.18 21:59:38 -
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I think if we had WiS the player count wouldnt be in the low 20ks today |

Lulu Lunette
Blue Aurochs United Systems of Aridia
116
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Posted - 2015.11.18 22:03:14 -
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Persifonne wrote:I think if we had WiS the player count wouldnt be in the low 20ks today
Dunno why these guys wouldn't want us in their captain's quarters.
@lunettelulu7
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Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
228
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Posted - 2015.11.18 23:10:23 -
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I doubt WIS would have made that much difference.
But if you extended it to walking on other planets then it would.
But then of course you have DUST. |

01101989
Regnum Satanae
20
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Posted - 2015.11.19 00:31:28 -
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Yes. Please implement this. Don't mind the fanboys. Most people would enjoy such features. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1652
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Posted - 2015.11.19 00:38:36 -
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WIS back then ...
Badly implemented and a waste of resources, no obvious point to it and generally a bad plan. As a result a huge backlash from players.
WIS now ...
PRO The tech is there with Dust and the failed but functional WoD IP . Player hardware generally is a lot more WIS friendly .
CON Still no obvious ingame purpose other than showing off your avatar. Bad Blood from previous attempt will make it hard to implement unless its done in very small increments.
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Scipio Artelius
The Vendunari End of Life
40852
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Posted - 2015.11.19 05:07:12 -
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Hasikan Miallok wrote:CON Still no obvious ingame purpose other than showing off your avatar. Bad Blood from previous attempt will make it hard to implement unless its done in very small increments.
One more con;
CON: CCP no longer own the WoD IP
Come Win At Eve - Join The Vendunari
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Indahmawar Fazmarai
4162
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Posted - 2015.11.19 07:39:10 -
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Scipio Artelius wrote:Hasikan Miallok wrote:CON Still no obvious ingame purpose other than showing off your avatar. Bad Blood from previous attempt will make it hard to implement unless its done in very small increments.
One more con (assuming the WoD development would be useful for a potential WiS implementation); CON: CCP no longer own the WoD IP
They still own the assets and technology used in the game, assuming they weren't scrapped as the Ambulation assets.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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Aldur Vaako
Order of the Imperial Knights
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Posted - 2015.11.19 08:53:42 -
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Walking in station, would certainly be cool to have at some point but I would rather they add support for joystick over walk in station. (Yes I am aware of the likely hood of that happening is around the same as me winning the lottery) |

Valeska Vasile
Pinard Industries
6
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Posted - 2015.11.19 10:03:40 -
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i think WIS could be a part of the new gameplay brought by citadels.
Multiple docking bay = natural lobbies and hangars to walk in.
Oh, and it would be amazing to see some room-scale citadel fittings, and even maybe run to get inside a defense turret.
But hey, maybe in 10 years when dust for Pc will release. |

Hasikan Miallok
Republic University Minmatar Republic
1658
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Posted - 2015.11.19 23:10:41 -
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What might work is if in station WIS is based on the GTA4 franchise. |

Terminal Insanity
Pwn 'N Play SpaceMonkey's Alliance
820
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Posted - 2015.11.19 23:14:09 -
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Woodman2 wrote:I was gone from EVE for a couple of years due to my health, I am now back and wondering what happened to walking around in the station? It was the next big thing when I left.
they stopped working on it to work on better things, like fozziesov! CCP knows you like timers, so they put a timer on your timer so you can watch the timer countdown until you put a timer on it
Oh, and siphons. Because requiring you to run thirdparty software to detect ingame item theft is cool too
"War declarations are never officially considered griefing and are not a bannable offense, and it has been repeatedly stated by the developers that the possibility for non-consensual PvP is an intended feature." - CCP
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Raven Null
BRETHREN MOONS
4
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:35:59 -
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01101989 wrote:Yes. Please implement this. Don't mind the fanboys. Most people would enjoy such features. I know CCP would make some money from me for getting to redesign some of my characters |

Solecist Project
The Scope Gallente Federation
27577
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Posted - 2015.12.14 13:56:10 -
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Terminal Insanity wrote:Woodman2 wrote:I was gone from EVE for a couple of years due to my health, I am now back and wondering what happened to walking around in the station? It was the next big thing when I left. they stopped working on it to work on better things, like fozziesov! CCP knows you like timers, so they put a timer on your timer so you can watch the timer countdown until you put a timer on it Oh, and siphons. Because requiring you to run thirdparty software to detect ingame item theft is cool too That was a funny read, thanks. :D
CCP stopped working on in Incarna five years ago ... ... because they needed the devs for FozzySov five years later.
Brilliant. :D
I identify as Sol-kin and I oppose all WiSgender because the white priviledged spacists just want to oppress me with their Avatariarchy. Once the carebears are eradicated, I will stand before them, screaming...
THE GAME ! (:
You lost... :)
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Demica Diaz
SE-1
150
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:34:48 -
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Bagrat Skalski wrote:Contrary to popular belief WIS idea is not a horse, and it cant die.
"What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." - Cobb
Damn it CCP, look what your Inception did to us! 
Here's a thought for brain though. Once Star Citizen flops you will have a lot of players hungry for WiS, could be opportunity for CCP, ay?... ay? Altough if SC will not flop... 
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Kaska Iskalar
Republic Military School Minmatar Republic
28
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Posted - 2015.12.14 14:41:06 -
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Woodman2 wrote:I was gone from EVE for a couple of years due to my health, I am now back and wondering what happened to walking around in the station? It was the next big thing when I left. The TL;DR version is that they focused almost exclusively on it and ignored the space game. People got pissed and rioted. There's a memorial in Jita. CCP has been terrified to touch walking in stations ever since. |

Otso Bakarti
Filial Pariahs
525
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Posted - 2015.12.14 15:00:54 -
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most people...everybody but...all the folks I play with...anyone with any intelligence...the cool kids....
(Let's keep padding this thread. It's half as thick as the EVE Is Dying thread, though it has twice the bilge!)
There just isn't anything that can be said!
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Kimyko Achuka
Mons Olympus Corporation
0
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Posted - 2015.12.28 18:59:31 -
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No walking on station -> waiting for SC . End of Story |

Indahmawar Fazmarai
4455
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Posted - 2015.12.28 21:10:28 -
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Kaska Iskalar wrote:Woodman2 wrote:I was gone from EVE for a couple of years due to my health, I am now back and wondering what happened to walking around in the station? It was the next big thing when I left. The TL;DR version is that they focused almost exclusively on it and ignored the space game. People got pissed and rioted. There's a memorial in Jita. CCP has been terrified to touch walking in stations ever since. Avvy wrote:I doubt WIS would have made that much difference.
But if you extended it to walking on other planets then it would.
But then of course you have DUST. That's what baffled me about Dust. Why make it a console game when it had so much potential for Eve integration? Imagine docking and ending up in Dust when you get out of your ship. That would have been awesome. But no they'd apparently rather waste the effort for a console that can't be integrated tightly with Eve and that will need to be ported to new generation consoles about every 5 years. It was a massive waste of potential.
Abridged version: They didn't had the PC developers to build DUST for PC so they hired PS3 developers in China. DUST is developed on Unreal engine, quite a different beast than EVE's propietary technologies.
CCP Seagull: "EVE should be a universe where the infrastructure you build and fight over is as player driven and dynamic as the EVE market is now".
62% of players: "We're not interested. May we have Plan B, please?"
CCP Seagull: "What Plan B?"
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sirxazor
B-T-G
0
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Posted - 2015.12.29 10:21:45 -
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lul, you want eve to stay up when other upcoming games (2016) will be released with full walkable ships planets stations insert anything else?
it will only get worse from here (2016) on. Atmospheric flight says hello too.
shoulda though about this when you still had a chance (2012) 4 years of planning...
oh well, good luck with your declining players online game :D |

Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7224
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Posted - 2015.12.29 10:42:19 -
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sirxazor wrote:lul, you want eve to stay up when other upcoming games (2016) will be released with full walkable ships planets stations insert anything else?
it will only get worse from here (2016) on. Atmospheric flight says hello too.
shoulda though about this when you still had a chance (2012) 4 years of planning...
oh well, good luck with your declining players online game :D
Best estimates of this years decline are around 18% total, and it's a trend that looks to be possibly reversing. The only people that are going to leave are those easily distracted by shiny things with fancy logos, and it's always been that way; EVE's existing spaceship gameplay, the kind of gameplay that's intended for a game about spaceships, is doing just fine, and there are still new people joining it on a daily basis. Seriously, hang out in help chat in game, come meet some of 'em. The game obviously holds interest without WiS, and given how much development actually needs to go into that, and how much of the game has been and still is borked, CCP have their priorities straight when it comes to fixing the game first, and saving such extravagantly large client-bloating features for later.
Which, frankly, I'm not interested in and will never use. See how I speak for myself and don't assume that other people think the way I do, or that the few people I've talked to who agree with me are an accurate representation of EVE's entire player base? Anyway, if WiS is done, I'm not against it, as long as it has to be its own platform, it's own game, that can tie into EVE like DUST does but doesn't bloat the EVE client. You can use it with your EVE toon but you have to be logged off of EVE to use WiS because it will be a different program, which shouldn't matter because you won't be using your ship walking around a station anyway. This is going to be the best way to do it not just for the players, but the developers as well, because EVE's code would need a huge overhaul to support extensive gameplay changes like that. Sure, what you could call a foundation is there, but it's shaky at best.
All of those things though that you think are going to 'compete' with EVE - they are different kinds of games. I don't know why it's such a hard concept to grasp, but EVE is not a space flight combat simulation, it's more of an RTS if it's anything, and it's also a single-shard player-driven environment unlike anything that's coming out or been announced for the near or distant future. That uniqueness alone is enough to keep it going just fine. Just because you don't like it, and can't imagine why other people do, doesn't mean they don't and have no reason to.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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Remiel Pollard
Shock Treatment Ministries
7224
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Posted - 2015.12.29 10:45:41 -
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Demica Diaz wrote:Bagrat Skalski wrote:Contrary to popular belief WIS idea is not a horse, and it cant die. "What is the most resilient parasite? Bacteria? A virus? An intestinal worm? An idea. Resilient... highly contagious. Once an idea has taken hold of the brain it's almost impossible to eradicate. An idea that is fully formed - fully understood - that sticks; right in there somewhere." - CobbDamn it CCP, look what your Inception did to us!  Here's a thought for brain though. Once Star Citizen flops you will have a lot of players hungry for WiS, could be opportunity for CCP, ay?... ay? Altough if SC will not flop... 
It won't, of course, but that doesn't mean anything. In it's own way, EVE has become another WoW, and everyone is calling the next big thing an "EVE killer" because they think fear mongering will get them the features they want if they stomp their feet hard enough and tune their tinfoil hats to the correct frequency.
GÇ£Some capsuleers claim that ECM is 'dishonorable' and 'unfair'.
Jam those ones first, and kill them last.GÇ¥
- Jirai 'Fatal' Laitanen, Pithum Nullifier Training Manual c. YC104
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