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Corraidhin Farsaidh
Farsaidh's Freeborn
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Posted - 2015.04.21 15:52:15 -
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I'm thinking I'd have preferred ore in losec to be buffed. This would have put losec in the centre of ore trade between hi and null and boosted losec population potentially. |
Anhenka
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
1447
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:03:34 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I'm thinking I'd have preferred ore in losec to be buffed. This would have put losec in the centre of ore trade between hi and null and boosted losec population potentially.
That does absolutely nothing to solve the issue that the change was made to help with.
Unless it being in lowsec magically manages to let to teleport to the outside rim of EVE without passing through the intervening space.
This is not a "We need to nerf highsec mining and we shall do it by buffing nullsec mining" change.
This is a "We need to buff nullsec mining to avoid major fallout with the new sov system" change.
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions. |
Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
179
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:06:13 -
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Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:I'm thinking I'd have preferred ore in losec to be buffed. This would have put losec in the centre of ore trade between hi and null and boosted losec population potentially.
nullsec ores were buffed.... |
Mario Putzo
1197
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:10:26 -
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Anhenka wrote:[quote=Corraidhin Farsaidh]
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions.
Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Lowsec if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist. |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:17:31 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Anhenka wrote:
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions.
Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Lowsec if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist.
You really are a teeming little ball of rancor, aren't you?
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Mario Putzo
1197
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:25:34 -
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Querns wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Anhenka wrote:
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions.
Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Lowsec if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist. You really are a teeming little ball of rancor, aren't you?
"I have no counter argument to your position, so I am just going to attack your character instead" |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:27:38 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Querns wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Anhenka wrote:
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions.
Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Lowsec if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist. You really are a teeming little ball of rancor, aren't you? "I have no counter argument to your position, so I am just going to attack your character instead"
If you made arguments instead of tantrum-induced apoplexy, you'd have a point.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Anhenka
Infinite Point
Nulli Secunda
1447
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:29:35 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:"I have no counter argument to your position, so I am just going to attack your character instead"
Our "position" is that CCP has stated their intended goal:
"Make nullsec more independent from highsec in terms of t1 production"
And their change to accomplish that:
"Buff nullsec anomalies to provide greater amounts of lowends and fewer highends"
Our position is CCP's positions.
We don't need to convince you of ****. If you want it changed, you need to supply reasons and explanations for CCP so that they might change their mind. |
Dersen Lowery
Drinking in Station
1552
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:30:31 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Jita if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist.
FTFY.
So, just one little word away from the current status quo, and what a little word it is: People actually mine in The Forge. There was, I think, one guy who mined in low sec, and Noizy just moved into Thera. It's probably safer to mine there.
Proud founder and member of the Belligerent Desirables.
I voted in CSM X!
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
116
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:36:36 -
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Querns wrote:GankYou wrote:CCP Fozzie wrote:No area of space is intended to be fully self sufficient. These changes will not make any area of space fully self sufficient, nor should they. NICE REGION, WE'LL TAKE IT!  Upgraded Ore Anomalies are all uniform, however.  Nah. Truesec plays a part in giving you boosted anoms with +5% and +10% variants.
That's cool. 
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Mario Putzo
1198
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:43:08 -
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Querns wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Querns wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:Anhenka wrote:
Putting low end buffed ore in lowsec but not null would do nothing to help the livability of the outer regions.
Thats to bad. Fight and take space closer to Lowsec if you want easier access to the minerals. Risk/Reward and all that right? If you live in the ass end of space you are much safer than living in high traffic space...think of all the time you will have to mine even your limited resources 30 jumps away from anyone who gives a rats ass about your colony in Omist. You really are a teeming little ball of rancor, aren't you? "I have no counter argument to your position, so I am just going to attack your character instead" If you made arguments instead of tantrum-induced apoplexy, you'd have a point.
Right because asking for some HS and LS anoms that spawn Highend yielding Ore is tantrum induced apoplexy. You haven't really read anything I posted have you? Other than the lines you chose to cherry pick.
Fun fact, i am not arguing against the changes which is probably why you don't think im making any arguments (because im not), I think they are good changes (not ideal imo but good)...I would just like to see Highends available to LS and HS in a limited quantity as well, because the changes to getting stuff from HS>NS are going to work inversely as well, it is not an argument. It is a suggestion.
Now if you have any actual argument as to why seeding anoms in HS and LS is bad, other than "EVE isn't Fair" or the good ol' Risk/Reward crutch, ill happily discuss it with you. But if you aren't going to post with any real sincerity, why should I bother responding to you (or others like you) with any real sincerity.
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GankYou
Redshield Holding Company
116
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:52:34 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:the good ol' Risk/Reward crutch
I think you are running out of sensible arguments.
...And They All Crave One Thing - ISK.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:53:21 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:
Right because asking for some HS and LS anoms that spawn Highend yielding Ore is tantrum induced apoplexy. You haven't really read anything I posted have you? Other than the lines you chose to cherry pick.
Fun fact, i am not arguing against the changes which is probably why you don't think im making any arguments (because im not), I think they are good changes (not ideal imo but good)...I would just like to see Highends available to LS and HS in a limited quantity as well, because the changes to getting stuff from HS>NS are going to work inversely as well, it is not an argument. It is a suggestion.
Now if you have any actual argument as to why seeding anoms in HS and LS is bad, other than "EVE isn't Fair" or the good ol' Risk/Reward crutch, ill happily discuss it with you. But if you aren't going to post with any real sincerity, why should I bother responding to you (or others like you) with any real sincerity.
Sure, I can list several.
- The number of highends required to do manufacturing is so small that seeding them in highsec would cause the price to drop to the floor, making them utterly worthless.
- Removing the only unique mining product from nullsec would cause nullsec mining to become completely worthless. This has negative effects for Sov 5.0, player density, and availability of "food" for PVPers.
- Doing so would make highsec completely self-sufficient for T1 production, which goes against the Day 1 design philosophy, as well as CCP Fozzie's stated intentions.
- JF dependency for nullsec would skyrocket due to highsec's superior acquisition costs, which is markedly against CCP's desires for nullsec.
The thing you don't seem to get is that highsec and nullsec can be tuned independently from each other. Buffing one area does not necessitate a buff in the other area, nor does a nerf in one area require a nerf to the other. This is not the iconic dream scene from Lorenzo's Oil. If this was even remotely the case, highsec incursions would have been castrated a long time ago.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:56:51 -
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Basically, it's okay if nullsec gets an advantage. Truly, it's fine.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Hendrink Collie
Steel Fleet
Gentlemen's.Club
15
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Posted - 2015.04.21 16:57:47 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:Now if you have any actual argument as to why seeding anoms in HS and LS is bad, other than "EVE isn't Fair" or the good ol' Risk/Reward crutch, ill happily discuss it with you. But if you aren't going to post with any real sincerity, why should I bother responding to you (or others like you) with any real sincerity.
But the Risk/Reward crutch is exactly why it exist. Why should someone in a .9 system be able to mine ABC rocks? If that was the case, everyone would just be better off mining in high-sec, which for the longest time is what most people did anyways until the recent changes in Phoebe and now this patch changed things. There needs to be a sufficient carrot for people to do mining activities in null sec, and these changes really help. However, if a similar carrot was also given to high-sec anoms, then most people would just resume doing their mining activities in highsec, like pre-phoebe. High-sec doesn't need another boost. |
Mario Putzo
1198
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:08:34 -
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Querns wrote:Mario Putzo wrote:
Right because asking for some HS and LS anoms that spawn Highend yielding Ore is tantrum induced apoplexy. You haven't really read anything I posted have you? Other than the lines you chose to cherry pick.
Fun fact, i am not arguing against the changes which is probably why you don't think im making any arguments (because im not), I think they are good changes (not ideal imo but good)...I would just like to see Highends available to LS and HS in a limited quantity as well, because the changes to getting stuff from HS>NS are going to work inversely as well, it is not an argument. It is a suggestion.
Now if you have any actual argument as to why seeding anoms in HS and LS is bad, other than "EVE isn't Fair" or the good ol' Risk/Reward crutch, ill happily discuss it with you. But if you aren't going to post with any real sincerity, why should I bother responding to you (or others like you) with any real sincerity.
Sure, I can list several.
- The number of highends required to do manufacturing is so small that seeding them in highsec would cause the price to drop to the floor, making them utterly worthless.
- Removing the only unique mining product from nullsec would cause nullsec mining to become completely worthless. This has negative effects for Sov 5.0, player density, and availability of "food" for PVPers.
- Doing so would make highsec completely self-sufficient for T1 production, which goes against the Day 1 design philosophy, as well as CCP Fozzie's stated intentions.
- JF dependency for nullsec would skyrocket due to highsec's superior acquisition costs, which is markedly against CCP's desires for nullsec.
The thing you don't seem to get is that highsec and nullsec can be tuned independently from each other. Buffing one area does not necessitate a buff in the other area, nor does a nerf in one area require a nerf to the other. This is not the iconic dream scene from Lorenzo's Oil. If this was even remotely the case, highsec incursions would have been castrated a long time ago.
= In a limited capacity (anoms) the valuation would be entirely capable of being adjusted to keep valuation of the minerals reasonable. The changes to Ice mining have shown that limited conditional spawning mechanics does not impede on the valuation vs direct source mechanics.
= see above for an explanation on why this wouldn't be the case
= Doing so would not make HS any more self sufficient than pumping up Lowends does for NS, it is an improvement but limited conditions does not make HS instantly fully self sufficient. If this were the case then Gun mining would have been obliterated instead of simply nerfed.
= Why would JF dependency sky rocket? Unless of course folks in NS are not mining the ore available to them. If you have the ore right out your front door, why would you bother outsourcing for it...unless you simply do not want to mine it yourself.
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Ncc 1709
Fusion Enterprises Ltd
Shadow of xXDEATHXx
179
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:13:14 -
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the main reason that most alliance import ores for builds is simple
It takes time to mine.
most are too lazy to get a bunch of people to mine for a month to gather the lowends for 1 titan. the highends can be mined in the time It takes to haul the lowends from jita. but the bulky lowends take forever.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1611
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:22:48 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:
= In a limited capacity (anoms) the valuation would be entirely capable of being adjusted to keep valuation of the minerals reasonable. The changes to Ice mining have shown that limited conditional spawning mechanics does not impede on the valuation vs direct source mechanics.
= see above for an explanation on why this wouldn't be the case
= Doing so would not make HS any more self sufficient than pumping up Lowends does for NS, it is an improvement but limited conditions does not make HS instantly fully self sufficient. If this were the case then Gun mining would have been obliterated instead of simply nerfed.
= Why would JF dependency sky rocket? Unless of course folks in NS are not mining the ore available to them. If you have the ore right out your front door, why would you bother outsourcing for it...unless you simply do not want to mine it yourself.
Considering isotope values are in the toilet, I'll take that as an anti-example to your point.
You'll have to link the post in question for the second point, because I don't know to which post you refer.
You can't really make the third point and claim up and down that "nullsec has the lowends needed to build already."
JF dependency would skyrocket because the rapacity and utter safety of highsec would see all available highend bearing anomalies stripped by folks whose ability to understand an economic bargain compares unfavorably to people who buy lottery tickets. This causes the costs to race to the bottom, making highsec production much cheaper compared to nullsec. Thus, nullsec production slows/halts when people realize, hey, we can just JF this stuff in instead of building it and save a bundle.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1612
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:27:01 -
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Furthermore, I guess I don't understand this sudden outburst of people unhappy with the idea that highsec needs to get highends from nullsec. It always did! This part did not change, at all. Why is it so important now? Not only that, but the amount of highends needed barely increases your build costs, even with a sharp increase in price of highends.
The cynical part of my brain asserts that the answer to the question "Why is it so important now?" is "because a change is happening to nullsec that improves its quality of life; therefore, it must be snuffed out."
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Frostys Virpio
The Mjolnir Bloc
The Bloc
1707
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:49:30 -
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Querns wrote:Furthermore, I guess I don't understand this sudden outburst of people unhappy with the idea that highsec needs to get highends from nullsec. It always did! This part did not change, at all. Why is it so important now? Not only that, but the amount of highends needed barely increases your build costs, even with a sharp increase in price of highends.
The cynical part of my brain asserts that the answer to the question "Why is it so important now?" is "because a change is happening to nullsec that improves its quality of life; therefore, it must be snuffed out."
It's reverse NIMBY.
And people being scared the low end will crash hard if you don't import a metric ass ton of them. |
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Mario Putzo
1198
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Posted - 2015.04.21 17:53:43 -
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Querns wrote:
Considering isotope values are in the toilet, I'll take that as an anti-example to your point.
You'll have to link the post in question for the second point, because I don't know to which post you refer.
You can't really make the third point and claim up and down that "nullsec has the lowends needed to build already."
JF dependency would skyrocket because the rapacity and utter safety of highsec would see all available highend bearing anomalies stripped by folks whose ability to understand an economic bargain compares unfavorably to people who buy lottery tickets. This causes the costs to race to the bottom, making highsec production much cheaper compared to nullsec. Thus, nullsec production slows/halts when people realize, hey, we can just JF this stuff in instead of building it and save a bundle.
= They are in the toilet because supply is crushing demand ever since Phoebe and Jump Fatigue. Prior to that the changes to Ice in HS were positive in increasing the valuation of Ice products. Compared to the old system where Ice never went away and people could "AFK mine" it all day long.
= The post was not a post it was the point i made right above (regarding the changes to Ice mining mechanics in HS).
= They do have them though, its just easier and less effort to import from highsec because there are more folks actively mining there. The changes don't actually fill a void, they just make it easier to get what you want and require less effort to do so, which are good. However I wager folks who can mostly guarantee a safe avenue will still source most of their minerals from HS...because again its easier and less effort to buy a million trit and stick it in a JF (even with fatigue), than mine a million trit.
= This is not a result of mechanics though, this is a choice of the person doing the production who would rather risk their 7B JF to get material from HS, that is available outside their front door. Even if the market tanked it has no bearing on dependency of JFs. Instead of supplying HS with highends, NS folks could just sit on their and use it for their own production. If people determine that the effort/result isn't worth their time to mine...then they can choose to import...i don't see what is wrong with that. Choice is always greater than requirement.
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Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1636
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Posted - 2015.04.21 18:40:32 -
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Mario Putzo wrote:
= They are in the toilet because supply is crushing demand ever since Phoebe and Jump Fatigue. Prior to that the changes to Ice in HS were positive in increasing the valuation of Ice products. Compared to the old system where Ice never went away and people could "AFK mine" it all day long.
= The post was not a post it was the point i made right above (regarding the changes to Ice mining mechanics in HS).
= They do have them though, its just easier and less effort to import from highsec because there are more folks actively mining there. The changes don't actually fill a void, they just make it easier to get what you want and require less effort to do so, which are good. However I wager folks who can mostly guarantee a safe avenue will still source most of their minerals from HS...because again its easier and less effort to buy a million trit and stick it in a JF (even with fatigue), than mine a million trit.
= This is not a result of mechanics though, this is a choice of the person doing the production who would rather risk their 7B JF to get material from HS, that is available outside their front door. Even if the market tanked it has no bearing on dependency of JFs. Instead of supplying HS with highends, NS folks could just sit on their and use it for their own production. If people determine that the effort/result isn't worth their time to mine...then they can choose to import...i don't see what is wrong with that. Choice is always greater than requirement.
Actually up until last year, you could source pretty much every highend you would ever need from gun mining. When CCP nerfed it the dependency on NS went up...and it is why the markets are the way they are right now in terms of High End availability. (and i made this argument then as well that mineral scarcity on high ends would become a thing...so this is not a new thing from me)
(and this also isn't about cost, because that would just get rolled into the final product sale price, simply about availability of the mineral itself)
In what world do you live in where a JF is ever at risk?
Nullsec empires are dependent on JFs currently because there are not enough lowends in nullsec. Lowends have to be JFed up from empire to build anything. It's just a fact. No amount of hemming and hawing about nullsec lowend supply is going to change that. Furthermore, the lowends that are currently available in nullsec come in the form of HIGHSEC ORES. Why would we mine highsec ores in vastly more dangerous nullsec when it can be done in highsec?
The rub on JFs is while they currently enable nullsec to function, it's not without a cost. Currently, I pay 300 isk per m^3 to have things shipped from empire to nullsec, and that is to Deklein, a region that is 2j from empire. If you wanna see some serious highway robbery, check out Black Frog's freight costs. Everything coming into nullsec has that tax applied to it. Meanwhile, highsec enjoys a vast ecosystem of considerably safer and significantly cheaper public courier services.
The changes described in the OP help to lessen the need of nullsec on the almighty jump freighter by not only improving nullsec mineral compositions, but also by making it not such an obviously terrible economic bargain to do so.
Also, gun mining died much earlier, when CCP removed the vast majority of t1 drops from rats. Meta drops refine for a LOT fewer minerals.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:30:36 -
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Querns wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Will we see a similar change that begins to spawn high end rocks in low amount in hisec? This would be good for explorers to hunt down, lucky miners to hit the odd payday, gankers to stake out. If one area is to be made more self sufficient then all must be in some way. Make it so that being self sufficient requires effort, with effort scaling inverse linear with risk.
This already happens -- the sites are called "wormholes."
I thought WHs were designed for only null sec use. High sec carebears don't go into WHs. |
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:34:36 -
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CCP Fozzie wrote:No area of space is intended to be fully self sufficient. These changes will not make any area of space fully self sufficient, nor should they.
Out of curiosity, how exactly do you define "self sufficient"?
Is it the ability to build 20 supercaps per day? 100? 1000? An unlimited supply? :) |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1636
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:35:49 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Querns wrote:Corraidhin Farsaidh wrote:Will we see a similar change that begins to spawn high end rocks in low amount in hisec? This would be good for explorers to hunt down, lucky miners to hit the odd payday, gankers to stake out. If one area is to be made more self sufficient then all must be in some way. Make it so that being self sufficient requires effort, with effort scaling inverse linear with risk.
This already happens -- the sites are called "wormholes." I thought WHs were designed for only null sec use. High sec carebears don't go into WHs.
Given the candor of whining by wormholer dwellers, how could you tell?
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:41:01 -
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Querns wrote:You've made the fundamental mistake of thinking that Eve is fair.
I have not heard a dev say this in a long time.
Didn't all of the "EVE isn't fair" devs leave CCP over the past year or so? |
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:43:50 -
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Querns wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:I thought WHs were designed for only null sec use. High sec carebears don't go into WHs. Given the candor of whining by wormholer dwellers, how could you tell?
Well, there is actually a different cadence to WH whining, which is much more in tune with nullbear whining than carebear whining... ;) |
Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:47:27 -
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Querns wrote:Meta drops refine for a LOT fewer minerals.
Speaking of which....
CCP Fozzie - are you also planning to adjust the Megacyte and Zydrine values of reprocessed meta modules, when you adjust the blueprint values? |
Querns
GBS Logistics and Fives Support
Goonswarm Federation
1638
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Posted - 2015.04.21 19:59:32 -
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Sizeof Void wrote:Querns wrote:Meta drops refine for a LOT fewer minerals. Speaking of which.... CCP Fozzie - are you also planning to adjust the Megacyte and Zydrine values of reprocessed meta modules, when you adjust the blueprint values?
Meta modules have no blueprint, so this will not happen.
This post was crafted by the wormhole expert of the Goonswarm Economic Warfare Cabal, the foremost authority on Eve: Online economics and gameplay.
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Sizeof Void
Ninja Suicide Squadron
587
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Posted - 2015.04.21 20:02:18 -
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Querns wrote:Sizeof Void wrote:Querns wrote:Meta drops refine for a LOT fewer minerals. Speaking of which.... CCP Fozzie - are you also planning to adjust the Megacyte and Zydrine values of reprocessed meta modules, when you adjust the blueprint values? Meta modules have no blueprint, so this will not happen.
Querns, my dear friend, you are not an alt of CCP Fozzie, are you?
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