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Tiuwaz Minmatar Omacron Militia	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:45:00 - [31] Originally by: Victor Valka Originally by: Tiuwaz Quote: Skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated. this is seriously the worst move you could make, i realize that the thinking behind is that you can earn more if ppl keep paying even if there are times where they dont want to play. But being able to train while account was deactivated was one of those things that really binds players to eve and keeps them coming back. It is (or was) very unfair to CCP, since people could and did abused this to train cap-ship alts and alike. I think this is a reasonable move on CCP's part. its sad to see a good feature go because of some ppl abusing it , but you have a point Originally by: Oveur This is not the conspiracy you are looking for.
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:49:00 - [32] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 24/11/2006 23:52:16 Never mind. The answer was in the OP (bookmarks undecided). --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:49:00 - [33] Originally by: Idara Originally by: Callistus On SISI all the Tech2 Battlecruisers now have Warfare Link Specialist IV as a skill req. It's not in the patch notes. I think Squadron Command has become that. If not, Oh yeah, you're right! Silly me. -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Jan Javaar Minmatar FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:53:00 - [34] Edited by: Jan Javaar on 24/11/2006 23:53:43 nvm, question was retracted
Noomee	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:53:00 - [35] Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: J Ryan No mention of warp to 0km as far as I can see. Look again And about time with the training on non-active accounts, and also logging in with a trail account if another is active, anyway you can get this done by other details as well, IE E-mail address on the account, IP address ect ect, anyone with two machines can now do this or even with Virtual PC running. Unless you have 2 incoming internet connections with 2 different WAN IP addresses, don't think you can... 2 PC's behind a router share the same WAN IP...
Joerd Toastius Octavian Vanguard	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:54:00 - [36] Quote: # Named versions of capacitor power relays, capacitor flux coils and power diagnostic systems now give better bonuses than their standard tech 1 counterparts.
Dale Cussler Gallente Sniggerdly	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:55:00 - [37] Skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated. I really really hate that one. Due to a rather hefty workload I sometimes don't have the time to play EVE. Sometimes that's a few days, sometimes it's expressed in months. One of the things I liked is that I could deactivaet my account for the time I wasn't going to be there (at least a month, or more) and still keep a skill going. If I'd need to log in in the meantime to change one, I'd reactivate for a month so I could do that. This takes away a bit of flexibility, although I can see the other side of the coin as well, it stops the character builders that just train up a char without ever logging in, and run the big long-time skills during a non-subscribed period. I hope this will be reconsidered.. or at least, I'd like to know why CCP chose to take this route.
Pinpisa Jormao	Posted - 2006.11.24 23:56:00 - [38] I applaud the warp to 0km but would like to make a note of that in some asteroid belts in the new regions which I tried it at, it results the ship flying into an asteroid and bumping of the roid, resulting in ship going faster than it should and taking forever to stop. CCP should change it so that if ship bumps to object, like Interceptor bumping into a Battleship, the smaller mass object should immediately go to 0-90% structure depending on bump velocity and 0% armor 0% shields. This would fix the collision exploit where small ships are preventing large ships from warping by bumping to them. Also it would make it risky to warp at 0km as you might hit something in the process and go to structure.
Noomee	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:01:00 - [39] Originally by: Pinpisa Jormao I applaud the warp to 0km but would like to make a note of that in some asteroid belts in the new regions which I tried it at, it results the ship flying into an asteroid and bumping of the roid, resulting in ship going faster than it should and taking forever to stop. CCP should change it so that if ship bumps to object, like Interceptor bumping into a Battleship, the smaller mass object should immediately go to 0-90% structure depending on bump velocity and 0% armor 0% shields. This would fix the collision exploit where small ships are preventing large ships from warping by bumping to them. Also it would make it risky to warp at 0km as you might hit something in the process and go to structure. I think the warp field of a ship (wether forming or deactivating) should make the ship "immaterial" to a certain point, so that it is not blocked by solid objects. That would also fix the issue where the ship that just undocked gets stucked in warp without moving because the station is blocking the warp...
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:01:00 - [40] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/11/2006 00:02:08 Originally by: Patch Notes Advanced learning skills prerequisites have been lowered from 5 to 4. This will save at least a month for newbies entering the game now. I remember taking all those skills from level 4 to 5 and it was such a enormous pain. Im glad newbies will have it easier, because that simply wasnt fun. And they also start with 800k now, so they are actually going to become decent very fast. --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate
Jan Javaar Minmatar FireStar Inc Lotka Volterra	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:02:00 - [41] Quote: The Vigil's description shows the correct max velocity bonus and not projectile damage. Will the Cheetah also get that speedbonus instead of the damagebonus?? pretty plz
Gone'Postal Minmatar LuthorCorp Combat Division	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:03:00 - [42] Originally by: Noomee Originally by: Gone'Postal Originally by: J Ryan No mention of warp to 0km as far as I can see. Look again And about time with the training on non-active accounts, and also logging in with a trail account if another is active, anyway you can get this done by other details as well, IE E-mail address on the account, IP address ect ect, anyone with two machines can now do this or even with Virtual PC running. Unless you have 2 incoming internet connections with 2 different WAN IP addresses, don't think you can... 2 PC's behind a router share the same WAN IP... Yup, but they have not stated how thats inforced, Client side, server side. If it's client side then the client check's to see if another process is running of the same name and the char it's running. Server side would need some form of ID for every player to inforce this. EG: Process 1 is running char XXX Trial Process 2 loads char YYY, Server knows that player XXX is locked to the user of char XXX,AAA and BBB. XXX is running, process to is disalowed access to the server. The man without a face... The company without a clue. Login, Login, Login, Login, Login... Pah Stupid Forum
Argenton Sayvers	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:05:00 - [43] "Items not in a market group can no longer be bought or sold on the market." Instead of allowing to search for all items that could be sold on market before (officer gear, cosmos items, lowly faction stuff that is sold in bulk), you nerf it to hell? Why? Together with the contract system, this has the potential to totally destroy the volumes of all un-ordinary items. If i remember correctly, you can have 15 open contracts at max skill level. Thats about 60-100 Contract slots for the average eve player (4 accounts, 2 alts each trained to IV, as the other alts will probably be undercover or in space for scouting, cyno etc). This means that if you want to sell a lowly True Sansha Reflective plating worth 1m or so, you will have to log in an alt. No thanks. Same for COSMOS items, BPCs, etc. Why do you want to totally nuke trading?
Kazuo Ishiguro Caldari School of Applied Knowledge	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:13:00 - [44] I'm going to miss the 'save password' option at the login screen ---------- An idea for helping people to appreciate ECCM
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:17:00 - [45] Originally by: Argenton Sayvers Thats about 60-100 Contract slots for the average eve player (4 accounts, 2 alts each trained to IV, as the other alts will probably be undercover or in space for scouting, cyno etc). Whiskey-Tango-Foxtrot? That asides, is there a limit on private contracts you can have? As in player-to-player?
Mithrantir Ob'lontra Gallente Ixion Defence Systems The Cyrene Initiative	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:17:00 - [46] Originally by: Jim McGregor Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/11/2006 00:02:08 Originally by: Patch Notes Advanced learning skills prerequisites have been lowered from 5 to 4. This will save at least a month for newbies entering the game now. I remember taking all those skills from level 4 to 5 and it was such a enormous pain. Im glad newbies will have it easier, because that simply wasnt fun. And they also start with 800k now, so they are actually going to become decent very fast. Probably but in the end even that one point is worth the time so they (and me for a couple learning skills)will do it eventually. But is handy to be able to progress faster than before. ------- Nobody can be exactly like me. Even I have trouble doing it.
Victor Valka Caldari Archon Industries	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:19:00 - [47] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I'm going to miss the 'save password' option at the login screen If anything, laziness did not need a nerf.
hydraSlav Synergy Evolved Serenity Fallen	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:22:00 - [48] Big big HUGE ovation to those that compiled the patch notes. This is the most comprehensive patch notes i've ever seen. And those links to closed thread giving even more details are great. Huge job doing all this, i can imagine. Awesome =================================== Above comments are my personal views Originally by: Oveur Local shouldn't be a tactical tool, it's for chat
Jim McGregor	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:24:00 - [49] Edited by: Jim McGregor on 25/11/2006 00:25:45 Originally by: hydraSlav Big big HUGE ovation to those that compiled the patch notes. This is the most comprehensive patch notes i've ever seen. And those links to closed thread giving even more details are great. Huge job doing all this, i can imagine. Yeah, I noticed TomB spending hours posting that stuff. Probably took days to write it all too. And also 30 new tutorial missions for the new stuff... THAT must have taken some serious time to put together. So everyone except RealX is working I guess... (where is that sound mix, dammit! ) --- Eve Wiki \| Eve Tribune \| Eve Pirate

kieron	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:36:00 - [50] The Revelations Features page has been uploaded. kieron Community Manager, EVE Online

James Lyrus Lyrus Associates Interstellar Starbase Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:38:00 - [51] I'm going to miss 'save password' on several accounts. Oh well. No more trial account scouting is a good thing, although it hardly bothers those who have second accounts already. I take it there'll be no more parking your ship and being in space in a pod then? That one did get quite useful out in 0.0, where shuttles aren't plentiful.
Hoshi DAB RAZOR Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:39:00 - [52] Originally by: Kazuo Ishiguro I'm going to miss the 'save password' option at the login screen Yeah I hate games where I have to put it in every time. This is my personal computer, no one else has access to it. Well guess it's time to write a script that puts it in automatically.
Degarion Soth Minmatar Reikoku Band of Brothers	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:44:00 - [53] Anything coming on Warp Core Stabs? Hope so...
Apertotes Nuevos Horizontes O X I D E	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:53:00 - [54] Edited by: Apertotes on 25/11/2006 00:58:57 Edited by: Apertotes on 25/11/2006 00:55:25 Originally by: patch notes Omnidirectional tracking link no longer requires trajectory analysis. OMG!!!!! thank you, thank you, thank you Originally by: patch notes All NPCs located in mission deadspace have afterburners now instead of a microwarpdrive that is only fair. if we cant, they shouldnt either Originally by: patch notes For security reasons the option to save passwords in the login screen has been removed. mmm... now logging in with two or three characters will be a little nuisance. but nothing is good enough when messing with security i guess.
BustyBounty Caldari Vengeance of the Fallen Imperium Alliance	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:57:00 - [55] Edited by: BustyBounty on 25/11/2006 00:57:47 erm is the features page part about the 8 new regions suposed to say "the first self-aware drone, who of course promptly went bat****, flipped out and killed some people" naughty word will probably be censored out by the forums btw its meant to be ape not bat if it was intended ------------------------------------------ My opinions are my own and not that of the alliance I belong to.
Farrellus Cameron Sturmgrenadier Inc R i s e	Posted - 2006.11.25 00:58:00 - [56] What about the WCS nerf? Didn't see any mention of it in the notes. Please confirm.
Callistus Gallente Coreli Corporation Corelum Syndicate	Posted - 2006.11.25 01:05:00 - [57] Originally by: BustyBounty Edited by: BustyBounty on 25/11/2006 00:57:47 erm is the features page part about the 8 new regions suposed to say "the first self-aware drone, who of course promptly went bat****, flipped out and killed some people" naughty word will probably be censored out by the forums btw its meant to be ape not bat if it was intended thats awesome -------------- [Coreli Corporation Mainfrane]
Exioce Gallente GoonFleet GoonSwarm	Posted - 2006.11.25 01:29:00 - [58] Taking away the feature of skills continuing to train while accounts were inactive is a mistake. There is incentive in reactivating an account when you know you'll be able to do something new. Additionally, please do not disrespect your customers by pretending it was bug all along, when it was labeled as a feature on My Account.
Miss Social	Posted - 2006.11.25 01:35:00 - [59] Ok made it to the proper thread Originally by: Miss Social Patch Notes: Patch notes #1-67: Cool! Patch note #68: "Skills no longer train when the owning account is deactivated." Patch notes #69-100: Cool! --- Ok CCP you're making a mistake with this one. One of the HUGE advantages Eve had was being burn out friendly. If a player got sick of the game they used to set a long skill and take break with the reward of a finished skill if they came back. Now people will burn out and have no motivation to resubscribe. You may think you're making the right choice for the $$$ but in the long run you're not.
Big Al The Aftermath	Posted - 2006.11.25 01:36:00 - [60] Originally by: Dale Cussler I hope this will be reconsidered.. or at least, I'd like to know why CCP chose to take this route. greedisgood. 4 alt accounts will be going into permanent hibernation with this change. Kill a farmer, win some isk!

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