that way it can only benefit the new or deeper pocketed players and will not effect the ecomony in anyway.

You keep saying that but as we are now you can't, that concept doesnt exist .

really sad story for newbies to lose a multi-billion capital ship, just because they don't know how to play it, despite the skillpoints in the bank.

what are you blithering about?

buying sp from the market is exactly what this concept is.

As it is now sure you can extort more money from a renter but what you going to spend it on ? there is no way to build a perfect toon or add skillpoints to make any character any better Instantly.

Your problem is your talking as if sp's are here now and keep rambling on as if you can because its the same

It doesn't. Money buys the ability to EXTRACT skill points, not skill points themselves. And you will no doubt be able to purchase the extractors for isk on the market if you so desire.

Dave,

Game as it is now , No skillpoint trading in it.

rent 3 bill

because we protected you against xyz you pay us 3 bill tribute this month also as you losses would of been far greater
There is no skillpoints in this senario so you bank the extra cash, distribute it, buy minerals - There is no instant character progression it doesnt exist.


Game with skillpoint trading

because we protected you against xyz you pay us 5 mill TSP tribute this month also as you losses would of been far greater.

Now times this on how ever many they could use this concept on
Right we have 80 mill is TSP this month in the kittty, we can use this to create a new logi wing in flashjacks crew.

you say that like they can't just buy logi pilots if that's what they need. (funfact, they can)

But not for free you ******** blockhead

they aren't getting TSPs for free.

Dave,

Game as it is now , No skillpoint trading in it.

rent 3 bill

because we protected you against xyz you pay us 3 bill tribute this month also as you losses would of been far greater
There is no skillpoints in this senario so you bank the extra cash, distribute it, buy minerals - There is no instant character progression it doesnt exist.


Game with skillpoint trading

because we protected you against xyz you pay us 5 mill TSP tribute this month also as you losses would of been far greater.

Now times this on how ever many they could use this concept on
Right we have 80 mill is TSP this month in the kittty, we can use this to create a new logi wing in flashjacks crew.

because we protected you against xyz you pay us 5 mill TSP tribute this month also as you losses would of been far greater.
....
Right we have 80 mill is TSP this month in the kittty, we can use this to create a new logi wing in flashjacks crew.

You keep saying that but as we are now you can't, that concept doesnt exist .

At the moment dave theyre not in the game remember

You realize that even now in the scenario you talk about, they could have just gone to the character bazaar and bought a bunch of new logi pilots just the same right? Having a warchest full of ISK or injectable SP leads to pretty much the same result.

Sure the Injection route (depending on the final cost) MAY be a bit more focused, but by the same extension the purchased character can also be improved and resold later when the meta changes, most likely for a profit so can also be looked upon as an investment.

you say that like renters are magically living in rental space for free right now.

newsflash; they aren't.

Dave you either need to goto bed or shut your yammering you have no clue about what im talking about here obviously.

Dave you either need to goto bed or shut your yammering you have no clue about what im talking about here obviously.

Levi you are too emotional person. Also your statments are controdict with each other and you can't admint that you are maybe wrong in something. This are good reasons to assume that you are demagogue. Sorry.

The problem I see with TSP being used in rental (and there's no way to stop that if it's a tradeable commodity) is the newer less capable and/or space rich players will be tempted to just harvest their own SP meaning they then get 'left behind' as they see it.

I notice from skipreading the thread now and then that no goons have denied they will attempt to control the market on SP ;) As I have said before they would be stupid not to.

i'm not entirely sure you do either. every time a point of yours is proven to be false you just cry "but it's not in the game yet" like it makes you less wrong.

Youve not proven anything wrong you just go back and forth that TSP's and bazaar toons are the same, I gave up on you seeing their differences but im now giving you a very easy way if it was left to players and not CCP how TSP's could create very real abuse that would be fine in game.

yes, you've explained that landlords will ask for SP instead of isk.

we've pointed out how this changes nothing.

No i didnt say sp for isk, i said they pay there isk/rent then they are asked to pay a tribute for the protection theyre being afforded in a controlled pocket of space - This is the part you have not wrapped your nugget round yet .

so you're asking them to pay 2 lots of rent.

so you're just putting their rent up. ok, so what does increasing rental fees for renters have to do with this proposal?