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Paladineguru
Gallente DAB RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:08:00 -
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ROFLMAO
wow molle has you guys so snowed.
The plain truth. Bob isnt the biggest.
Bob doesnt have all the good pilots.
Bob doesnt have anything anyone else couldnt get with work (with the exception of a few tournement prizes, and knowing them theyll sell one eventually)
Bob definetly doesnt have all the t2 , or half the owners i know would have to be liars. a lot maybe , all hell no.
while bob has fine tacticians, they dont have all of them or even necessarily even the best ones.
what bob does have. is unity. unity of purpose, unity of strategy. unity of its team players. if you really want what they have. thats thier key
every player knowing thier place and being truly dedicated to thier goals.
simple hmm the hardest things always are.
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CamMan
Evolution Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:22:00 -
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Originally by: Reshei ... rabble rabble rabble ...
this is one of the most idiotic posts i have ever ever read, and i have read a few of them. In summary it says "I didnt get a T2 BPO so i will blame BoB". And then it has some "cry, cry, cry" in there.
Just to clarify for Reshei the rabbleraiser, 1) ASCN were supposedly bigger industrialists then BoB, so your whole arguement falls over there. 2) BoB dont sell their T2 items or equipment so how does the T2 BPO's make them trillionaires again? 3) putting T2 BPO's on market and making the moon based minerals the restricting factor would just further empower the big 0.0 alliances, which opposes what your whole rabble is on about.
So to summarise Reshei is basically just a clueless alt.
Originally by: Bender Interesting, no the other one ... tedious
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Rhedea
Final Crusade Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:31:00 -
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Edited by: Rhedea on 03/01/2007 08:32:23 n/m
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Krychton
Blood Inquisition Sani Khal'Vecna
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:32:00 -
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Edited by: Krychton on 03/01/2007 08:33:50
Originally by: Reshei The BoB Victory over ASCN is yet another indication of just how poerful that alliance is. When we think about the reasons for their victory the situation with the game and its future become potentially bleak and unappealing.
You know what makes BoB so powerful, its not their mass wealth, not their pilots. Its you. People coming on here gloryfying them like their the only alliance pushing their wieght around. People like that make themselves their own worst enemy. If I can get someone to doubt themselves, to make them think that I'm unstoppable, then I already beat them.
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Gothikia
Revelations Inc. Shroud Of Darkness
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:33:00 -
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bob gives good sex. more than enough reason for them to kick about... ascn didn't put out... they were as much fun as margaret thatcher on a cold day  _________________________ I really should get a bloody sig... |

Switchbl4d3 iii
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:48:00 -
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a b0b fred
how uncanny
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gfldex
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Posted - 2007.01.03 08:49:00 -
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Edited by: gfldex on 03/01/2007 08:52:53
Originally by: Wesley Price
BoB is an extremely powerful alliance. They make themselves so by very strict methods of recruitment that ASCN did not employ, this left one side deathly vulnerable to infiltration and far worse, poor players.
You Sir won the forum for this week.
Originally by: Wesley Price
BoB is not immortal, they CAN and WILL be defeated by someone who looks at the lessons of ASCN and puts them to good use. Fortunately for BoB, from the looks of it the people who have that ability are... well... in BoB.
And you even got the 2nd price. What a shame that you cant post with your main. -- $ perl -n -e 'print "Stop blameing pirates! Oveur is the root of all evil!\n" if m/podkill|lost my ship|gank|gate camp|Verone/;'
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Helen Tranter
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:25:00 -
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Edited by: Helen Tranter on 03/01/2007 09:25:43
Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Helen Tranter My First Rant
I have kept my keyboard silent throughout the war against Bob, but would just like to say this with out diss'ing the good PvP's. The Motto going around BOB and its Slave Corps at the start of the war was " ANITHING GOES". This means they used any tactic ingame and out of game to gain an advantage, they know the rules and know what rules to break before there players get band. This is a sad fact and only detracts from there win and will stain any Bob player in the eyes of Eve's community weather they are part of these tactics or not. The fact that CCP has allowed this to take place is there failing and Eve's loss.
Ex ASCN
PS: Plz bare in mind that the original poster of this thead is BOB
Out of game tactics? Like what?
Spamming our TS with music and other noise, personal char attacks on ASCN players on the forums etc
If CCP allowed a list of ingame band charecters to be published on the forums you would I am sure see the extent of the tactics used by BOB and there policy of TOTAL WAR!
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:33:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Tranter Edited by: Helen Tranter on 03/01/2007 09:25:43
Originally by: DarkMatter
Originally by: Helen Tranter My First Rant
I have kept my keyboard silent throughout the war against Bob, but would just like to say this with out diss'ing the good PvP's. The Motto going around BOB and its Slave Corps at the start of the war was " ANITHING GOES". This means they used any tactic ingame and out of game to gain an advantage, they know the rules and know what rules to break before there players get band. This is a sad fact and only detracts from there win and will stain any Bob player in the eyes of Eve's community weather they are part of these tactics or not. The fact that CCP has allowed this to take place is there failing and Eve's loss.
Ex ASCN
PS: Plz bare in mind that the original poster of this thead is BOB
Out of game tactics? Like what?
Spamming our TS with music and other noise, personal char attacks on ASCN players on the forums etc
If CCP allowed a list of ingame band charecters to be published on the forums you would I am sure see the extent of the tactics used by BOB and there policy of TOTAL WAR!
Nice allegation..
Proof Mr ASCN Alt ??
PWYM
Alliaanna
Please note i'm no BoB fanboi, I cant stand ANY alliance tbh, I think your all blobbers and suck BUT, For the love of god why cant people just post with their mains !! Is it that scary that everyone will know what you think about others  
DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Helen Tranter
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:35:00 -
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Personal experiance 
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Sartaron
Amarr Circle of Violence
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:40:00 -
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As soon as BoB will conquer most of EVE, I will join the Resistance. And I will have more fun, than I ever had.
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Alliaanna Dalaii
Gallente Does Not Compute
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:49:00 -
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Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 03/01/2007 09:55:57
Originally by: Helen Tranter Personal experiance 
Wow thats really convincing evidence coming from an alt  
Alliaanna
Edit - My bad, mebbe your not an alt and your a TNT chap ? No idea I'm not in front of a client. However your evidence is urrr... non exhistant  DNC Treasure Hunt !!
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Rodj Blake
Amarr PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:58:00 -
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Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/01/2007 09:58:28 I remember when people said the Curse Alliance would take over the whole of Eve and destroy the game.
Even before then, people had claimed that TTI had already won Eve.
Dulce et decorum est, pro imperator mori
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UGWidowmaker
Caldari Setenta Corp Xelas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.01.03 09:58:00 -
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ya bob won eve, gratz.
i do agree that t2 sucks and the fct that ccp dont do anything about it SUCKS... dont blame bob for using the tacticas posible ingame.. blame ccp for ruining the game with the way t2 is going...
ccp should do something about this instead of saying nothing... any person who pays for the game should have a FAIR chance at gettting a bpo t2 or t2 bpc... atm they dont... I will make your wife/mann a widow. |

Helen Tranter
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:02:00 -
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Edited by: Helen Tranter on 03/01/2007 10:03:20
Originally by: Alliaanna Dalaii Edited by: Alliaanna Dalaii on 03/01/2007 09:55:57
Originally by: Helen Tranter Personal experiance 
Wow thats really convincing evidence coming from an alt  
Alliaanna
All
Give us all a break trying to spam about why I am posting with my Main Industrial Empire char instead of my PvP char, will not detract from what I have Stated I experianced in the game.

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Hesed
Hamartia.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:03:00 -
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Everytime an alliance dies, all the new and surviving ones get a little stronger.
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Noriath
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:08:00 -
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People claiming that BoB isn't so tough are just as wrong as people claiming that BoB is invincible. That's the real magic of it, have half the people so convinced they can't beat BoB and the other half so convinced they can that nobody acctually bothers to fight before its too late, and nobody bothers to help if someone gets atacked... 
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Marcus TheMartin
Gallente Tuxedo.
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Posted - 2007.01.03 10:09:00 -
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Edited by: Marcus TheMartin on 03/01/2007 10:15:07 Wait are you telling me the reason this isn't on the soap opera forums is because he hinted at a t2 bpo monopoly in the op guh
Also Nerf Alt posts I swear if some conspiracy theorist wants to show the galaxy he's a crazed idiot let the galaxy see that his main is a crazed idiot instead of his privacy shield Best Dressed Corp of 2006 and 2007! -Marcus TheMartin
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Everbane
Underworld Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:10:00 -
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Originally by: Noriath People claiming that BoB isn't so tough are just as wrong as people claiming that BoB is invincible. That's the real magic of it, have half the people so convinced they can't beat BoB and the other half so convinced they can that nobody acctually bothers to fight before its too late, and nobody bothers to help if someone gets atacked... 
What he said...
1, 2, Freddy's Coming For You 3, 4, Better Lock Your Door 5, 6, Grab A Crucifix 7, 8, Better Stay Up Late 9, 10, Never Sleep Again
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Angry Sheep
Amarr Aur0ra
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:19:00 -
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Bad ideas really.
not thought through the results of the change to making the ores rare and not the bpo's, BUT at least you offered an alternative.
still a no from me.
alliances dont own BPO's corps do. Break a corp break an alliance.
It's a Dog eat Dog World out there and I'm wearing Milky Bone underwear
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:24:00 -
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Lol the OP doesnt even know who was the real "winner"of WW2 (and i mean by so the one that defeats germany.. not the much much much less dangerous japan empire)
Its brute force, passion and the abdication of all the self interests to support the corp/country that finnaly wins wars. If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |

Verus Potestas
Caldari The I-Win Button
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:28:00 -
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Originally by: Helen Tranter Spamming our TS with music and other noise
FFS, we've been over this so many times. That had NOTHING to do with BoB, and a list of the players who did it has already been posted on the damn forums.
--- In third-party forums we trust
Did i ask for anyone to copy this into their sig? No, ****heads, its my text, not yours.
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Kagura Nikon
Minmatar The Black Dawn Gang
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:31:00 -
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Originally by: Sartaron As soon as BoB will conquer most of EVE, I will join the Resistance. And I will have more fun, than I ever had.
some day... maybe that would go to storiline :) a great battle between concord an Bob eventually :) If brute force doesn't solve your problem.. then you are not using enough!! |

DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:36:00 -
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Edited by: DarkMatter on 03/01/2007 11:41:25
Originally by: Rodj Blake Edited by: Rodj Blake on 03/01/2007 09:58:28 I remember when people said the Curse Alliance would take over the whole of Eve and destroy the game.
Even before then, people had claimed that TTI had already won Eve.
Yes, but the game changed too much for them to continue as is...
Will CCP ever change the game to the point Bob can't function as they do? I don't think so...
I'm more fearful for the game than I am fearful of getting beat by someone who is stronger, that's part of the game after all... I don't have a problem losing as long as I know I did the best I could.
I just think alliances should be controlling constellations, not multiple regions. And it's too late for CCP to change that IMO... Alliance outposts span great distances with very empty space in-between that no one can access due to choke points. Lot of wasted 0.0 space IMO.
I don't like the blobbing of the map into 3 or 4 big alliance chucks. It's akin to if instead of the cold war/arms race, the USA & USSR decided conquest & territory was the way to go, and wound up owning/controlling 90% of the landmass on the planet...
Diversity will make EVE a much better game, not a few alliances owning all of 0.0 space...
No sir, I don't like it, but it's not Bob's fault, it's CCP's.
Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead |

fire 59
Destructive Influence Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:41:00 -
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Having all the isk in the game and the best weapons and ship's are useless without dedicated pilot's to fly them. Isk is iirelevant, passion and determination win wars imo. I know it probably seemed like a good idea to start another bob thread but couldn't you have added this to an already existing thread, there getting a bit silly now in number and it's noteven us posting them 
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DarkMatter
Amarr Mineral Aquisition Group
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:44:00 -
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Quote: Having all the isk in the game and the best weapons and ship's are useless without dedicated pilot's to fly them.
It certainly helps now doesn't it? 
Newest toy for my 63 acre sandbox Building the homestead |

Shayla Etherodyne
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:44:00 -
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Originally by: Darius Shakor
...lot of good reasoning....
Back to the first sentiment... boooooring.
CCP don't have to 'get a handle' on this. The problem will end with natural reactions. Internal strife and a lot of bored people who realise why they are bored and turn on each other.
Your reasoning is right, but there is a mayor problem. BOB will reach the implosion point before or after that the control of most of the non empire systems by that alliance has alienated a great percentage of players?
The empire mission runners probably will stay, but all the others?
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Locus Bey
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:49:00 -
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BoB hasn't won EVE, far from it. Yes their the major power in EVE, but do they control it, no... Until BoB controls all of 0.0, and Empire they haven't won. And even if they did control all of EVE that would still make EVE an exciting game to play. The larger BoB grows, the more vulnerable it will become imo.
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Jacque D'eath
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:52:00 -
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One thing that has been overlooked in this discussion to date is the future plans for Sovereignty which would make defence of any 0.0 "Empire" much easier.
- Gate Guns - Constellation sovereignty - Inability to Cyno into other sovereign territory etc.
Once these come in all it takes is for the alliance controlling the most space to set up the appropriate defences to free up their fleet. Assaulting an area held like this would be MUCH harder. These will allow for a smaller fleet to effectively protect a much larger space.
How does this impact BoB? ū well, with ASCN virtually gone BoB will hold more space (valuable space) than anyone else, this gives greater resources to draw on for any assault on a smaller sovereign space, any conquered space then gets built up and added to the existing fortress creating an upward spiral of greater resource protecting more and more valuable assets.
The slave corps will be able to hunt and get fat in the absence of player gank squads which canĘt get past the gate defences and these corps will of course be expected to defend anything which does get into their territory until BoB can show up.
I canĘt see anyone else mustering the resource to shift BoB once these defences become available, they would have to have large and extremely well co-ordinated fleets and ***** the static defences even before hitting the BoB fleet and then moving onto PoS, Stations etc. All the while BoB can be locking down their other systems and still building resource.
. . . . I guess time will tell
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Na'Kunni
Amarr Warped Mining
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Posted - 2007.01.03 11:54:00 -
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Edited by: Na''Kunni on 03/01/2007 11:53:52 Concord(NPC)/Polaris(Player) = EVE
If any allaince can take on them an win, they win EVE?
Originally by: Xenofur Everyone wants to kick you in the nuts until your voice is stuck at the pitch of a japanese schoolgirl for the rest of your life.
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