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Gareth Angel
Blue Star Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:26:00 -
[271]
 Originally by: Riddlock
...Anyway i hope you will stop posting crap on forums...
Lol.
Reading through this post makes me think the same about many others, and I really feel the urge to say that a LOT of those others are from your alliance.
Honestly, if someone like Nira Li is a rolemodel for you guys, I fear for the future of Eve.
I am not saying I agree with what Cyvok wrote - flamebait mostly; no-one should really disagree with that, but omg - lots of people are showing their true faces here. Not something to be proud of, tbh.
Let me be a nobody in Eve, if it saves me from becoming like so many others here. Frustrated much? Need to prove something to someone? Show the community how big your e-peen is?
Grow up, please.
And to Cyvok, since he wrote the original post - respect for what you tried to make of ASCN. I think your alliance achieved more than others can only dream of. For that part, I salute you.
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Gareth Angel
Blue Star Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:26:00 -
[272]
Originally by: Riddlock
...Anyway i hope you will stop posting crap on forums...
Lol.
Reading through this post makes me think the same about many others, and I really feel the urge to say that a LOT of those others are from your alliance.
Honestly, if someone like Nira Li is a rolemodel for you guys, I fear for the future of Eve.
I am not saying I agree with what Cyvok wrote - flamebait mostly; no-one should really disagree with that, but omg - lots of people are showing their true faces here. Not something to be proud of, tbh.
Let me be a nobody in Eve, if it saves me from becoming like so many others here. Frustrated much? Need to prove something to someone? Show the community how big your e-peen is?
Grow up, please.
And to Cyvok, since he wrote the original post - respect for what you tried to make of ASCN. I think your alliance achieved more than others can only dream of. For that part, I salute you.
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Gareth Angel
Blue Star Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:26:00 -
[273]
Originally by: Riddlock
...Anyway i hope you will stop posting crap on forums...
Lol.
Reading through this post makes me think the same about many others, and I really feel the urge to say that a LOT of those others are from your alliance.
Honestly, if someone like Nira Li is a rolemodel for you guys, I fear for the future of Eve.
I am not saying I agree with what Cyvok wrote - flamebait mostly; no-one should really disagree with that, but omg - lots of people are showing their true faces here. Not something to be proud of, tbh.
Let me be a nobody in Eve, if it saves me from becoming like so many others here. Frustrated much? Need to prove something to someone? Show the community how big your e-peen is?
Grow up, please.
And to Cyvok, since he wrote the original post - respect for what you tried to make of ASCN. I think your alliance achieved more than others can only dream of. For that part, I salute you.
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BlackMoon Thrawn
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:40:00 -
[274]
Originally by: CYVOK
ASCN has been officially disbanded, forums and website decommissioned. It was founded on 5 May 2004 by Celestial Horizon Corp and Dirty Deeds Corp.
Some parting words from me.
The Base Pay out on the Titan was 22B. The ISK was split between IXC, CLS, & 5618, indirectly. It was used to purchases POSÆs, Fuels and Modules to continue the war effort.
The death of the Titan is not what made me decide to leave EvE. I had made that decision the Sunday before.
The last 2 years of my Air Force duty were VERY taxing. I was working close to 100 hours a week. In the last 8 months I think I might have had 3 days off. Everyone in ASCN could see what was happening to me. I simply did not have the time to deal with everything in EvE that I needed to properly. To mitigate that I gave more operational control to individual Corps and CEOÆs. ASCN lost its central command structure at that point. I had hoped that I would be able to come back and get everything back on track when my RL calmed down, but that never happened.
I had been trying for almost 6 months to get other players to step up to the leadership plate and take control in both ASCN and CLS to no avail. There is a HUGE shortage of players in EvE that have the time to effectively run large organizations like ASCN vs their real lives.
Could've stopped there tbh. At any rate good luck with whatever you decide to do CYVOK. Good or bad you gave alot to the allaince and most of us appreciated it. The blame game doesn't suit you, whatever happened right or wrong take it like a man.
To all the other posters intent on laying the blame of a fallen allaince on CYVOK there were others at the top and plenty of blame to go around.
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BlackMoon Thrawn
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:40:00 -
[275]
Originally by: CYVOK
ASCN has been officially disbanded, forums and website decommissioned. It was founded on 5 May 2004 by Celestial Horizon Corp and Dirty Deeds Corp.
Some parting words from me.
The Base Pay out on the Titan was 22B. The ISK was split between IXC, CLS, & 5618, indirectly. It was used to purchases POSÆs, Fuels and Modules to continue the war effort.
The death of the Titan is not what made me decide to leave EvE. I had made that decision the Sunday before.
The last 2 years of my Air Force duty were VERY taxing. I was working close to 100 hours a week. In the last 8 months I think I might have had 3 days off. Everyone in ASCN could see what was happening to me. I simply did not have the time to deal with everything in EvE that I needed to properly. To mitigate that I gave more operational control to individual Corps and CEOÆs. ASCN lost its central command structure at that point. I had hoped that I would be able to come back and get everything back on track when my RL calmed down, but that never happened.
I had been trying for almost 6 months to get other players to step up to the leadership plate and take control in both ASCN and CLS to no avail. There is a HUGE shortage of players in EvE that have the time to effectively run large organizations like ASCN vs their real lives.
Could've stopped there tbh. At any rate good luck with whatever you decide to do CYVOK. Good or bad you gave alot to the allaince and most of us appreciated it. The blame game doesn't suit you, whatever happened right or wrong take it like a man.
To all the other posters intent on laying the blame of a fallen allaince on CYVOK there were others at the top and plenty of blame to go around.
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BlackMoon Thrawn
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:40:00 -
[276]
Originally by: CYVOK
ASCN has been officially disbanded, forums and website decommissioned. It was founded on 5 May 2004 by Celestial Horizon Corp and Dirty Deeds Corp.
Some parting words from me.
The Base Pay out on the Titan was 22B. The ISK was split between IXC, CLS, & 5618, indirectly. It was used to purchases POSÆs, Fuels and Modules to continue the war effort.
The death of the Titan is not what made me decide to leave EvE. I had made that decision the Sunday before.
The last 2 years of my Air Force duty were VERY taxing. I was working close to 100 hours a week. In the last 8 months I think I might have had 3 days off. Everyone in ASCN could see what was happening to me. I simply did not have the time to deal with everything in EvE that I needed to properly. To mitigate that I gave more operational control to individual Corps and CEOÆs. ASCN lost its central command structure at that point. I had hoped that I would be able to come back and get everything back on track when my RL calmed down, but that never happened.
I had been trying for almost 6 months to get other players to step up to the leadership plate and take control in both ASCN and CLS to no avail. There is a HUGE shortage of players in EvE that have the time to effectively run large organizations like ASCN vs their real lives.
Could've stopped there tbh. At any rate good luck with whatever you decide to do CYVOK. Good or bad you gave alot to the allaince and most of us appreciated it. The blame game doesn't suit you, whatever happened right or wrong take it like a man.
To all the other posters intent on laying the blame of a fallen allaince on CYVOK there were others at the top and plenty of blame to go around.
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BlackMoon Thrawn
the Organ Grinder and Company
Tactical Narcotics Team
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:40:00 -
[277]
Originally by: CYVOK
ASCN has been officially disbanded, forums and website decommissioned. It was founded on 5 May 2004 by Celestial Horizon Corp and Dirty Deeds Corp.
Some parting words from me.
The Base Pay out on the Titan was 22B. The ISK was split between IXC, CLS, & 5618, indirectly. It was used to purchases POSÆs, Fuels and Modules to continue the war effort.
The death of the Titan is not what made me decide to leave EvE. I had made that decision the Sunday before.
The last 2 years of my Air Force duty were VERY taxing. I was working close to 100 hours a week. In the last 8 months I think I might have had 3 days off. Everyone in ASCN could see what was happening to me. I simply did not have the time to deal with everything in EvE that I needed to properly. To mitigate that I gave more operational control to individual Corps and CEOÆs. ASCN lost its central command structure at that point. I had hoped that I would be able to come back and get everything back on track when my RL calmed down, but that never happened.
I had been trying for almost 6 months to get other players to step up to the leadership plate and take control in both ASCN and CLS to no avail. There is a HUGE shortage of players in EvE that have the time to effectively run large organizations like ASCN vs their real lives.
Could've stopped there tbh. At any rate good luck with whatever you decide to do CYVOK. Good or bad you gave alot to the allaince and most of us appreciated it. The blame game doesn't suit you, whatever happened right or wrong take it like a man.
To all the other posters intent on laying the blame of a fallen allaince on CYVOK there were others at the top and plenty of blame to go around.
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:43:00 -
[278]
Before this post get locked becouse of stupid flaming:
CYVOK is right about a few things:
Yes. He is a very good alliance-leader.
Yes. He has no idea about pvp (one aspect of the downfall of ASCN)
ASCN was falling becouse of mis-management of recources, manpower and Isk (and the lack of pvp-command aka good FCs).
Btw @ celes: What u are doing now with thouse 2 titans?  (intel 4tw)
Good luck Cyvok in your future (and hopefuly back in EvE soon).
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:43:00 -
[279]
Before this post get locked becouse of stupid flaming:
CYVOK is right about a few things:
Yes. He is a very good alliance-leader.
Yes. He has no idea about pvp (one aspect of the downfall of ASCN)
ASCN was falling becouse of mis-management of recources, manpower and Isk (and the lack of pvp-command aka good FCs).
Btw @ celes: What u are doing now with thouse 2 titans? (intel 4tw)
Good luck Cyvok in your future (and hopefuly back in EvE soon).
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:43:00 -
[280]
Before this post get locked becouse of stupid flaming:
CYVOK is right about a few things:
Yes. He is a very good alliance-leader.
Yes. He has no idea about pvp (one aspect of the downfall of ASCN)
ASCN was falling becouse of mis-management of recources, manpower and Isk (and the lack of pvp-command aka good FCs).
Btw @ celes: What u are doing now with thouse 2 titans? (intel 4tw)
Good luck Cyvok in your future (and hopefuly back in EvE soon).
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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ChalSto
The Galactic Empire
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:43:00 -
[281]
Before this post get locked becouse of stupid flaming:
CYVOK is right about a few things:
Yes. He is a very good alliance-leader.
Yes. He has no idea about pvp (one aspect of the downfall of ASCN)
ASCN was falling becouse of mis-management of recources, manpower and Isk (and the lack of pvp-command aka good FCs).
Btw @ celes: What u are doing now with thouse 2 titans? (intel 4tw)
Good luck Cyvok in your future (and hopefuly back in EvE soon).
Evil will allways triumph, becouse Good is dumb
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Vince Draken
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:46:00 -
[282]
Originally by: Colje
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it 
You proved his point, go hide under a rock Nira.
Sorry, but if you had to put up with his unending line of personal insults and out right lies he told about us your reaction would be the same. Fact is from day one of our war he (cyvok) set out to demonise us. I mean, he coudn't even go out with a shred of dignity with this post. It is full of the same old same old lies and insults. It also shows that to this day he doesnt know why he lost so badly to us.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
Vince Draken
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:46:00 -
[283]
Originally by: Colje
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it
You proved his point, go hide under a rock Nira.
Sorry, but if you had to put up with his unending line of personal insults and out right lies he told about us your reaction would be the same. Fact is from day one of our war he (cyvok) set out to demonise us. I mean, he coudn't even go out with a shred of dignity with this post. It is full of the same old same old lies and insults. It also shows that to this day he doesnt know why he lost so badly to us.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
Vince Draken
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:46:00 -
[284]
Originally by: Colje
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it
You proved his point, go hide under a rock Nira.
Sorry, but if you had to put up with his unending line of personal insults and out right lies he told about us your reaction would be the same. Fact is from day one of our war he (cyvok) set out to demonise us. I mean, he coudn't even go out with a shred of dignity with this post. It is full of the same old same old lies and insults. It also shows that to this day he doesnt know why he lost so badly to us.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
Vince Draken
Destructive Influence
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:46:00 -
[285]
Originally by: Colje
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it
You proved his point, go hide under a rock Nira.
Sorry, but if you had to put up with his unending line of personal insults and out right lies he told about us your reaction would be the same. Fact is from day one of our war he (cyvok) set out to demonise us. I mean, he coudn't even go out with a shred of dignity with this post. It is full of the same old same old lies and insults. It also shows that to this day he doesnt know why he lost so badly to us.
The above thoughts and statements are IC and should be taken as such. |
CrewSandwich
Caldari
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:51:00 -
[286]
Quote:
The death of the Titan sucked for 1 reason and I donÆt care what anyone says about this statement, those that are in the know, know itÆs true. BoB took advantage of a situation I had no control over. They did not care about honor (they never have), they killed the ship when I had NO way to mount a defense and they knew it.
Cry me a river pal. You were in 0.0 you should know better. The pvp timer was still active and you logged off. Poor Cyvok. Bottom Line: you were in 0.0 it's not empire act accordingly.
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CrewSandwich
Caldari
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:51:00 -
[287]
Quote:
The death of the Titan sucked for 1 reason and I donÆt care what anyone says about this statement, those that are in the know, know itÆs true. BoB took advantage of a situation I had no control over. They did not care about honor (they never have), they killed the ship when I had NO way to mount a defense and they knew it.
Cry me a river pal. You were in 0.0 you should know better. The pvp timer was still active and you logged off. Poor Cyvok. Bottom Line: you were in 0.0 it's not empire act accordingly.
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CrewSandwich
Caldari
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.01.31 22:51:00 -
[288]
Quote:
The death of the Titan sucked for 1 reason and I donÆt care what anyone says about this statement, those that are in the know, know itÆs true. BoB took advantage of a situation I had no control over. They did not care about honor (they never have), they killed the ship when I had NO way to mount a defense and they knew it.
Cry me a river pal. You were in 0.0 you should know better. The pvp timer was still active and you logged off. Poor Cyvok. Bottom Line: you were in 0.0 it's not empire act accordingly.
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Cuisinart
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:19:00 -
[289]
Originally by: bulabuba
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it
You know, that comment right there pretty much sums up what disgusted me about that whole conflict. It wasn't so much the winning or losing in (in a game, for crissakes), it was the poorest sportmanship that I think I've ever seen, at any time, anywhere.
The three words above prety much say it all. Not "it was fun" or "lets do it again" or even "the best team won". Nope. We caused you real, personal pain, and we're happy about it. That's the dark underbelly of internet culture, folks. We can be sadistic bullies and nobody can hold us to account, 'cause we're anonymous. Small people lacking in self-esteem who can only be somebody in a video game.
My son is 6'7" and 230 at 15 years old. He absolutely dominates other kids his age in his chosen sport of basketball. If I ever heard "hurts, don't it" come out of his mouth toward an opposing team after he just slammed them for 50 points, I swear to god, it would be the last game he ever played. He loves basketball, but there are more important things than a game. Any game.
It's a f'n shame, folks. Does anyone look up to this kind of behavior? I hope to hell not.
Bulabuba, you hit that nail SO right on the head that I had to quote it for truth.
With every subject that bob replies to they just show off the fact that they are nothing more than arrogant pr1cks with less sportsmanship than a pack of 4 year olds.
Frankly, I don't understand why anyone would choose to associate themselves with such.
Cyvok, you made many good points and I wish you good luck in your future endeavors.
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Cuisinart
Celestial Apocalypse
Insurgency
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:19:00 -
[290]
Originally by: bulabuba
Originally by: Nira Li
Hurts doesn't it
You know, that comment right there pretty much sums up what disgusted me about that whole conflict. It wasn't so much the winning or losing in (in a game, for crissakes), it was the poorest sportmanship that I think I've ever seen, at any time, anywhere.
The three words above prety much say it all. Not "it was fun" or "lets do it again" or even "the best team won". Nope. We caused you real, personal pain, and we're happy about it. That's the dark underbelly of internet culture, folks. We can be sadistic bullies and nobody can hold us to account, 'cause we're anonymous. Small people lacking in self-esteem who can only be somebody in a video game.
My son is 6'7" and 230 at 15 years old. He absolutely dominates other kids his age in his chosen sport of basketball. If I ever heard "hurts, don't it" come out of his mouth toward an opposing team after he just slammed them for 50 points, I swear to god, it would be the last game he ever played. He loves basketball, but there are more important things than a game. Any game.
It's a f'n shame, folks. Does anyone look up to this kind of behavior? I hope to hell not.
Bulabuba, you hit that nail SO right on the head that I had to quote it for truth.
With every subject that bob replies to they just show off the fact that they are nothing more than arrogant pr1cks with less sportsmanship than a pack of 4 year olds.
Frankly, I don't understand why anyone would choose to associate themselves with such.
Cyvok, you made many good points and I wish you good luck in your future endeavors.
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ArcticFox
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:27:00 -
[291]
Edited by: ArcticFox on 31/01/2007 23:25:53
Originally by: KSUDruid
Take it for what it's worth. Bob didn't cheat, we didn't hack, we didn't do anything that isn't 100% within the game mechanics to beat ASCN. You know as well as I do Cyvok that we're regular dudes like ASCN were, we just play Eve better than you.
It's just a game man... It's just a game... say it a few more times in case you can't get it through your head. The sun will still come up tomorrow, you'll still have a job, and your life and health. It's just a game...
Druid, I like you, you're a good guy, and I wouldn't hesitate to say you're among the top fleet commanders I've flown with, but, back when you were DDC at least, you also played Eve more than almost any human being I know (except maybe Kezz). You said yourself you're a perfectionist, a power gamer, you don't play games half-assed. I imagine at least part of the reason you joined BoB was to fly with a lot of people who shared this mentality.
I'm not saying "skill level" was equal in the aforementioned conflict, but if you're going to deny this commitment in time and effort (which is what I beleive Cyvok was referencing) was a factor, and say you're just uberer, then you're spinning at least as much as Cyvok is.
Does Cyvok's post contain the whole and complete reason ASCN was downed? I don't know, though I'm inclined to say no. To point to any one factor as the sole cause is pointless, because anyone with half the info and half a brain should be able to see it's way more complicated than the descriptions in sensational Eve-O posts generally allow.
Do I completely agree with Cyvok and everything he has ever said? Of course not, but I still don't beleive he deserves to be flamed and insulted for making a post aimed mostly at dispelling some of the speculation directly related to his life, a post which is at the least no more vicious of an attack than many made by other BoB and ASCN members over the course of the war.
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There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it. |
ArcticFox
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:27:00 -
[292]
Edited by: ArcticFox on 31/01/2007 23:25:53
Originally by: KSUDruid
Take it for what it's worth. Bob didn't cheat, we didn't hack, we didn't do anything that isn't 100% within the game mechanics to beat ASCN. You know as well as I do Cyvok that we're regular dudes like ASCN were, we just play Eve better than you.
It's just a game man... It's just a game... say it a few more times in case you can't get it through your head. The sun will still come up tomorrow, you'll still have a job, and your life and health. It's just a game...
Druid, I like you, you're a good guy, and I wouldn't hesitate to say you're among the top fleet commanders I've flown with, but, back when you were DDC at least, you also played Eve more than almost any human being I know (except maybe Kezz). You said yourself you're a perfectionist, a power gamer, you don't play games half-assed. I imagine at least part of the reason you joined BoB was to fly with a lot of people who shared this mentality.
I'm not saying "skill level" was equal in the aforementioned conflict, but if you're going to deny this commitment in time and effort (which is what I beleive Cyvok was referencing) was a factor, and say you're just uberer, then you're spinning at least as much as Cyvok is.
Does Cyvok's post contain the whole and complete reason ASCN was downed? I don't know, though I'm inclined to say no. To point to any one factor as the sole cause is pointless, because anyone with half the info and half a brain should be able to see it's way more complicated than the descriptions in sensational Eve-O posts generally allow.
Do I completely agree with Cyvok and everything he has ever said? Of course not, but I still don't beleive he deserves to be flamed and insulted for making a post aimed mostly at dispelling some of the speculation directly related to his life, a post which is at the least no more vicious of an attack than many made by other BoB and ASCN members over the course of the war.
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There is only one +6 sword of WTFPWN in Eve, and only the lag is allowed to equip it. |
God's Army
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:28:00 -
[293]
Originally by: Ewa Quillam
Dude, if u want to make peace, make it with you and with your friends/corpmates/allies and not with your enemies by inciting them to further aggression. U'll never get understanding from them.
It seems u did some great things once, but now u just lost. Get passed it.
go hug ur veldspar
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Long life the warrios of God
R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard |
God's Army
Interstellar eXodus
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:28:00 -
[294]
Originally by: Ewa Quillam
Dude, if u want to make peace, make it with you and with your friends/corpmates/allies and not with your enemies by inciting them to further aggression. U'll never get understanding from them.
It seems u did some great things once, but now u just lost. Get passed it.
go hug ur veldspar
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Long life the warrios of God
R0ADKILL ALLIANCE Killboard |
Cinnander
Gekidoku
Koroshiya Buntai
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:39:00 -
[295]
Buh bye ASCN, see you guys around, on one end of my guns or another >:p
-x-
Faction gang mods, you say? |
Bryg Philomena
Green Lantern Corps
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:49:00 -
[296]
Yes, the need for smacking BoB a bit may have been a little hot headed.. but the BoB recourse in only the first page is way beyond the means of a community. Whether you hate Cyvok, or love cyvok, you can NOT deny his input to EvE. Yes, BoB is now controling fyeth, but would you have such nice space if it wasnt for Cyvok and ASCN? Would you have had the fun blowing ASCN ships up so much if it wasnt for the war?
BoB's smacking is a little harsh in my eyes. At the very least respect for your enemy, who put up such a nice fight, is truly deserved.
It was great flying with you ASCN, and was great fighting you BoB. See you on the battlefield.
-Bryg
http://oldforums.eveonline.com/?a=topic&threadID=465618 |
thebold
Rampage Eternal
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:49:00 -
[297]
Originally by: CYVOK
-We CRUSHED MASS & RA in UB5-Z
Cyvok, your true side has finaly shown, O well Ego ftw... In all honesty mate you did'nt leave your home system, it wasnt untill we conquered Feythabolis that we finaly found you!
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Sorja
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:55:00 -
[298]
I just don't have the heart to read past the second page of this thread: some BoB posts are truly disgusting and unfortunately show once more that PvP games bring the best... as the worst. SirMolle even getting warned, where will it stop?
Even if I don't agree with all what CYVOK wrote, most of the posters on this thread should just keep their dirty mouth shut because they never, and never will, achieve 1/100 of what Cyvok achieved.
Respect Cyvok, fly safe wherever you go, you're a great guy. I mean it.
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A gentleman is someone who can play the bagpipe, but who does not. |
Moghydin
Confederation of Red Moon
Red Moon Federation
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Posted - 2007.01.31 23:58:00 -
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I'm writing this several days before my Eve subscription runs out. This war was a blast. I was on the losing side and nevertheless, this war was mostly fun. I want to thank all those involved on both sides for many fun battles. I won't go into the reasons why ASCN had failed. I wasn't long enough in ASCN to have a clear view of how the alliance functioned. I only will say this to whoever will try to build another 0.0 empire:
Never think of Eve as Sim City. Eve is Total War. You want the best troops with the best gear available to you. 200 peasants won't defeat 30 knights. Endless riches won't help you if you don't have the army to field and if they aren't used to provide that army with the best gear possible. Eve is war. And I'll finish with a very nice quote from someone (unfortunately I don't remember his name): don't accept into your alliance industrialists with PvP alts; if you want an alliance that is a killing machine, accept PvPers with industrial alts.
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Xianthar
ShaK Scientific
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Posted - 2007.02.01 00:00:00 -
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everything about this post describes exactly why ascn lost.
-xian
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