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Sinlare Gallente Sinlare Auditorium	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:48:00 - [121] Originally by: vipeer Originally by: Tobias Sjodin War never changes, and BOB won, far too easily from where I stand. If you feel they cheated, send a petition. ^^ We did. The GM deleted it and is now unemployed afaik but the petition was not resolved still ;) lol, you're so sad
Ordo Abchao Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:51:00 - [122] Originally by: DinoC Does anyone else notice that this thread is gettin way too stupid/childish to be allowed to carry on? Any mods out there? Honestly, the post should have been edited down to cyvok, and ascn only points. All the points about the titan, bob, and the war are just flamebait and frankly completely untrue (except for killing cyvok while he was offline of course). Order out of Chaos
Pesadel0 Vagabundos	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:53:00 - [123] Originally by: Why'dyou HitMe Originally by: Meleira Luan Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 31/01/2007 05:52:55 While criticism is allowed, we ask that you be respectful to other players of the game. This post is also flamebait and has such been removed. -Karl Woho! Karl Chroimcer for President! Finally a forum moderator that dares smack BoB on the head for their constant forum trolling, whining and flaimbaiting. Even SirMolle got the stick, I love it! /signed Tripled signed . To CYVOK man life doenst end here make ascn again but now only recruit PVPers and try to claim feyth back :). Until then HF .
Scarlet Pimpernel Clan Eshin	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:55:00 - [124] Originally by: Svett Edited by: Svett on 31/01/2007 08:40:32 OH!! I get it, you're one of the (ex)ascn guys that has an ISD account. Got it! Am I the only one seeing the irony of that statement..... (or do you need to be reminded about the 'posting-of-cyvoks-leaving-post-by-BOBTV' incident)
Relifan Ratatil Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 09:56:00 - [125] thx cyvok for the morning start, now i have a smile over my mouth to my ears and 2. you NEVER saved my ass in RL (remember it)
Ben Sterlinger Caldari Celestial Horizon Corp.	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:02:00 - [126] Originally by: Death Merchant 2)You believed that most of ASCN cared about it just as much as you did. Could be some truth in that, however many of ASCN members actually did. They Mined all weekends, they build all day, they hunted rats, and they helped each other. Originally by: Death Merchant I believe ASCN failed because: 3)You believed BoB would never truly try and destroy you. We did believe. We actually got several warnings from CYVOK/HC telling us to stock up and prepare. He actually told us that BOBs goal, (and that he told us from day 1!) were to destroy, cheat, use greyzone game mechanics, and stuff. And they did. But one also have to admit that BOB is good at PVP. I admit that. having your ship shoot while sitting inside a POS thats... thats ... cheating to me. And it does not prove your PVP abilitys. ASCN was a blast. I truly appriciate that CLS still lives, otherwise i would have left EVE. "Honor and Server" still goes for me. Looking forward to next fight. Agent Runners Department
Heintron Caldari Ginnungagaps Rymdfarargille Tre Kroner	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:03:00 - [127] Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 31/01/2007 05:52:55 While criticism is allowed, we ask that you be respectful to other players of the game. This post is also flamebait and has such been removed. -Karl Do not discuss moderation - email [email protected] - thanks hutch This actually says it all about BOB as far as I'm concerned
Dracorimus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:05:00 - [128] Originally by: Scarlet Pimpernel Originally by: Svett Edited by: Svett on 31/01/2007 08:40:32 OH!! I get it, you're one of the (ex)ascn guys that has an ISD account. Got it! Am I the only one seeing the irony of that statement..... (or do you need to be reminded about the 'posting-of-cyvoks-leaving-post-by-BOBTV' incident) I've heard of BOB Radio but whats this BOB-TV you speak of ? Please do elaborate, I need a chuckle -
Dracorimus Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:09:00 - [129] Originally by: Heintron Originally by: SirMolle Edited by: SirMolle on 31/01/2007 05:52:55 While criticism is allowed, we ask that you be respectful to other players of the game. This post is also flamebait and has such been removed. -Karl Do not discuss moderation - email [email protected] - thanks hutch This actually says it all about BOB as far as I'm concerned Says what about us ? That EVEN BOB get moderated and wrist slapped and told off just like every other eve player ? If so, then yes im inclined to agree....We give as good as we get (Only we do it better) -
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:09:00 - [130] The Hypocricem of the Former ASCN members still is insane.. Get down of u BOB cheated chair. Claiming a GM remmoved u Pettion and got sacked Come on how low can u guys get.. never thought ppl could be this retarded and yes its all of u who claim this and that?? if all u guys where talking the truth CCP would have ti fire 90% of there staff becasue they clearly all i BOB and use there GM/DEV power for us to win ******* hell get over it u suck theres not more to it

Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:12:00 - [131] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 31/01/2007 10:11:37 I am most disappointed by your post CYVOK. If you were to obey the princibles of "sportsmanship", you would have said "Well done, the better man won" etc. However, you have resorted to attempts at insulting bob. "Fact is BoB hate PvP, they only enjoy ganking. If they think they donÆt have at least an 80% advantage they wonÆt move" When I was in ASCN, on the front line as usual, It was ASCN that would outnumber BoB on the majority of occasions. And before you say "turncoat", myself and many others were there till the last. We did not hate BoB, they had their orders and we had ours. We said we would fight to the last noobship and thats what we did. You, on the other hand, said one thing and did another. When you lost a Titan, thats when you should have stood up and take charge. You, on the other hand, said you were quitting eve and off to run missions. Now I find that, like jumping on a bus, you are running the show again. I understand your fustrations. It takes months to build up a statue, and one a minute with a hammer to smash it down. However that statue was going to topple over anyway had BoB not used the hammer. The blaitent lies and other stuff in the blogs is what killed ASCN more than any BoB fleet could. But lets sum it up quickly. Everone makes mistakes - If you dont make mistakes, you learn nothing. Insted of saying that its all someone elses fault, can you tell me what you have learned from your mistakes? --
Dr Smythe Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:18:00 - [132] Originally by: CYVOK A great many individuals but a lot of work into Steve including myself, but a Titan is just a ship and can be replaced, bottom line. The real question everyone should be asking themselves is what happened to the other 2 ASCN Titans that were completed just before Christmas Day? If this is true and not just flamebait then this another reason why ASCN failed so miserably as did Xetic. You failed to see that the FAT CATS got fatter and the rest of the alliance followed them blindly to their doom. While the FATCATS got their fat wallets out of Feythabolis. Originally by: CYVOK Fact is BoB hate PvP, they only enjoy ganking. If they think they donÆt have at least an 80% advantage they wonÆt move. They saw an opportunity to destroy the Titan and took it. I cannot blame them for doing so, but the circumstances were without honor. Please explain to me this quote above as I don't understand it. Does it mean that BoB plan so tactically well, that when they engage they have the advantage 80% of the time? If so doesn't that prove that they are not gankers and are EXCELLENT tactical planners. Originally by: CYVOK The death of the Titan sucked for 1 reason and I donÆt care what anyone says about this statement, those that are in the know, know itÆs true. BoB took advantage of a situation I had no control over. They did not care about honor (they never have), they killed the ship when I had NO way to mount a defense and they knew it. Can you tell me any war that has taken place in the past 5000 years which has not seen 1 side take advantage of something that has been presented to them on a plate by the oposing side? You see Cyvok I once thought you a great leader who achieved so much in this game. But you left us when we needed leadership the most. You left us when you KNEW that the people in place would and could not lead us. Yes ASCN achieved alot but I don't put it down to you, I put it down to people like me who grafted and worked our asses off. You had the vision and we were your tools. It's a pity you just descarded your tools on the plot after you finished using us. ----------------------------------- Help Dr Smythe get a Corvus

Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc Forum Moderator Interstellar Services Department	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:24:00 - [133] Deleted alot of off topic posting, can i remind you that discussion of moderation actions or that of a GM is not allowed on the eve-o forums and is off topic in this section anyway. I know this is a heated thread but can i remind you that personal insults, and open flaming is not allowed. - Thanks Hutch. ____ forum rules \| Email us They call me "Hutch" because my name is well... long

Ku'Gras Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:29:00 - [134] Originally by: Kriger As always alot of low blow responses from B00Bs.. ignore them like u would any CS kiddy.. nice work CYVOK, respect. And no low blow at all from the OP himself? No derogatory statements, accusations or flaming being done from his side? You should have re-read what he wrote before replying.
Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:29:00 - [135] I wish you good luck on your faction nightmate. I think CLS were nice to give you a good birthday present. I wonder if you will also be buying them a birthday present with your 12 Digit Wallet? It appears that you made that post on the same day. --
Meleira Luan Tiger Trading	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:30:00 - [136] Originally by: Lord WarATron I am most disappointed by your post CYVOK. If you were to obey the princibles of "sportsmanship", you would have said "Well done, the better man won" etc. However, you have resorted to attempts at insulting bob. In a way it is sad to watch some BoB's longing for respect and being liked by the community. I'm not saying they all want that, but some sure do. In reality nobody likes BoB. Even those who say they do (like Xelas) would stab you in the back and leave you to bleed if they could. Nobody likes you. Nobody ever will. This whole thread is the proof as to why. I'm sure you can't see it yourself but if you act like a dishonest bully that nobody can trust and only fear in a game you can't expect to be loved. And maybe you don't want to be loved, respected, admired or liked - only feared well good for you then becuse that's what you are: hated by all, feared by some and despised by most. You won Eve? You lost it mates, and someday you will understand it.
Kaleeb S.Y.N.D.R.O.M.E.	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:32:00 - [137] Gl cyvok, hopefully you will rebuild one day and have the opportunity to learn from your mistakes and get some revenge
Cipher7 Net 7	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:34:00 - [138] Originally by: Rak'Kabal Kain The people who put in the most time should by every right be at the top of the food chain plain and simple. Might makes right. So Eve is ruled by slackers and people on welfare right?
Plan Neun Caldari Ganja Unlimited CORE.	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:37:00 - [139] Whatever you choose to do I wish you the very best in RL or ingame. With respect CEO Plan Neun "I Will Drug You and Fluff You, through the permafrost"
Ashen Brarn Evolution Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:38:00 - [140] If only we could run an ENN poll of ex ASCN members. Why did ASCN fail to keep their regions: 1. BoB 2. ASCN ---

Lord WarATron Amarr Black Nova Corp Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:45:00 - [141] Edited by: Lord WarATron on 31/01/2007 10:41:52 Originally by: Meleira Luan Originally by: Lord WarATron I am most disappointed by your post CYVOK. If you were to obey the princibles of "sportsmanship", you would have said "Well done, the better man won" etc. However, you have resorted to attempts at insulting bob. In a way it is sad to watch some BoB's longing for respect and being liked by the community. I'm not saying they all want that, but some sure do. You have quoted a post out of contex that was removed. If you read in contex, the point being made was that insted of blaming bob for world hunger, try to work out what when wrong. If you dont make mistakes you dont learn anything. Exactly what lessons have been learned? I guess the only lesson that appears to be learned is that if you have a 12 Digit Wallet, then somehow that means what you say is automatically correct --
PeveS The Edge Foundation	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:49:00 - [142] Respect and good luck to you CYVOK. I do not agree with all you said but i still repect you for building up ASCN. Impressive and many players liked it. This post gives however a nice impression of most BoB players. None of them gave any respect on your official post. DB Preacher said: "its a game...its a game". But why does every BoB member flame? At least a bit of respect should be in place. Even if they are disagree with CYVOKS post some respect should be in place. It seems for BoB, EVE is not a game anymore but a living. But does BoB understand they are killing the game both ingame and on forums? Funny thing is that more and more proof is there that BoB has CCP employees as members. It actual means that they are killing their own job. If BoB players had balls, they joine some weaker alliance or corp and fight them. Again, respect and good luck to you CYVOK. This post is on disbanding a great alliance and i hope to see you flying around in that nightmare some time!
R'adeh Gallente Gekidoku Koroshiya Buntai	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:52:00 - [143] ASCN vs BOB was a clash of 2 different playstyles. ASCN had a dream of creating an empire with a good market where people actually live. BOB lives for PVP. They pew pew, install some random pet/slave corp so the newly conquered space isn't empty, and move on for some more pew pew. It's as if you'd set up a fight between some random fat dude and Mike Tyson. Sure, the fat dude's heavy and tall, but eventually, Mike will bring him down. Why? Because the fat dude normally lives a relaxed life with Twinkies infront of the TV instead of sparring 23/7. Two different lifestyles! I was actually looking forward to this war at the beginning. But a few things just made me wanna puke: #1: The forum smack. It got out of hand pretty quickly. I know propaganda is part of the game, but posting stuff from private boards on EVE-O is lame. Same goes for what's happening to BoB now with the Kung (complicated name, starts with a "K") dude. How does it feel to see private information made openly available? BoB might state that it's not the same, however, in the end YOU started lowering the bar, and it was just a matter of time till someone took the next step. You ridiculed every single allegation against you, and now, suddenly, some of the things like Dev involvement come up...interesting. Both parties should have concentrated on fighting in game more than on the forums. #2: Unfair tactics. Remember when some of us got shot within POS shields, and BoB screamed their usual "Proof or STFU" when people complained about that? Well, turns out you could infact target stuff inside POS shields!! All it required was passive targeters as has been proven by another alliance that got caught doing it. Ofc BoB never used those and didn't know about the bug It's all about winning, no matter what! #3: The personal attacks! Guys, it's a game. I know there's a certain roleplay element, so if Hardin calles some random UK guy a "pig dog", that's fine (not that I have any preference regarding UK or CVA). But some of the comments made were bellow the belt There's more, but I really stopped caring. All in all I have the feeling that there's some people in this game that take it WAAAAAAAAYYYYY to seriously. If you have to resort to personal attacks and extensive smack on a game forum, I think it's a reflection of your RL (to a certain extent). Anyway, c ya all in space...pew pew 'n all! _______________________________________________ My views are my own and I don't represent my corp.
Ami Nizuo	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:53:00 - [144] Edited by: Ami Nizuo on 31/01/2007 10:50:22 alt post ftl :S
MellaRinn Veto. Veto Corp	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:55:00 - [145] all the best to you CYVOK. GG ASCN. EDIT: above is my alt, :S Click
Reifahal Gallente Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:55:00 - [146] Jesus christ cyvok wake up - it's a game. And yes many peeps plays this game many hours and uses a lot of resources on it. But it's still a ******* game. Play by the rules and enjoy it. Else go play your lvl 3 char on wow.
Meleira Luan Tiger Trading	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:57:00 - [147] Originally by: PeveS Edited by: PeveS on 31/01/2007 10:47:49 Respect and good luck to you CYVOK. I do not agree with all you said but i still repect you for building up ASCN. Impressive and many players liked it. This post gives however a nice impression of most BoB players. None of them gave any respect on your official post. DB Preacher said: "its a game...its a game". But why does every BoB member flame? At least a bit of respect should be in place. Even if they are disagree with CYVOKS post some respect should be in place. It seems for BoB, EVE is not a game anymore but a living. But does BoB understand they are killing the game both ingame and on forums? Funny thing is that more and more proof is there that BoB has CCP employees as members. It actual means that they are killing their own job. If BoB players had balls, they join some weaker alliance or corp and fight them. Again, respect and good luck to you CYVOK. This post is on disbanding a great alliance and i hope to see you flying around in that nightmare some time! This was by far the best post in this thread so far, I'll get out of it now - feels like all has been said. The best thing you said that i think should be stated again is: If BoB players had balls, they join some weaker alliance or corp and fight them.
Sir JoJo Minmatar Destructive Influence Band of Brothers	Posted - 2007.01.31 10:59:00 - [148] bah mods FTL. ill say it in short this time. ASCN or Former get down from u BOB cheated stick and get over it.. it all comes donw to one thing. U alliance was crap plain simple.
konkord eXceed Inc. INVICTUS.	Posted - 2007.01.31 11:10:00 - [149] You know what i find funny? The fact that every BoB post in here, stating the truth or lies, spinning yarns, ripping into CYVOK and ASCN and some of the facts posted by CYVOK - ALL OF THEM, they're just edging the public to hate you that little bit more. Your PR spin is starting to work against you. BoB's rule of terror and might is great, hell its good im impressed and always have been when you've whooped our asses bad. But all this 'no place for honour' standpoint will be your undoing, seriously. All of you who think that your cool and funny for slating someone who posts on here from his viewpoint, well thats fine carry on.... Infact I encourage it! You had being likened to script kiddies, haxx0rs, basement dwelling eejits - yet you continue to act like them on these forums, day in, day out. Its side splitting to be honest, looking through these forums and reading all the BoB posts (and when i say all i mean 99% bcos some of you out there have respect and its worth alot) because BoB as a whole, ie the face of BoB is that of a crazy steroid pumped school bully, who is indeed the hardest kid in school, and likes demoralising and emotional beasting his 'lesser mates'. Im sure you like being the hardest kid in school, or the wildest kid. I remember being at school and setting fire to someones hedge in a village. I thought I was cool, but now when I drive past stuff like that i just feel bad. Feel bad for the guy with the hedge who has to build it back up, sad for how crap it looks, and feel sorry for the people who own it. It wasnt big, it wasn't clever, and this little story is so much like BoB's style of play its unfunny. Pick on the biggest thing you can see then destroy it for a good laugh, thats fine! its your style of play!!! But it will be your undoing, promise! (cross my heart and everything). Now all in all its a game and you can play it how you like - and you will, and i have no doubt that whatever i say will be forgotten in double quick time (and probably not read), but your efforts to be bad ass, the 'rebel forum posts' and general lack of respect is turning popular opinion and views against you. And it continues with your posts to this thread, which was made from a has been CEO, of a crushed alliance you destroyed. The one time a man is saying goodbye to an alliance and your there with another cup of salt to through in the wounds. Whats the point!? Good luck in the future BoBBits. All you've managed is to split 2200 players into alot of smaller components that have joined other corps and alliances. And these posts continue to stoke the hate they have for you. So now ASCN members covers 20 alliances instead of just one. And none of them like you. Look forward to the post being ripped shredding torn and spun for your use :o) Goodluck in the future CVYVOK, goodluck to you as well, BoBbins. ---------------------- Nubtard
Kcel Chim Caldari Arcane Technologies The Five	Posted - 2007.01.31 11:11:00 - [150] Cyvok does that mean bob is allowed to keep fountain ? To the point: Cyvok you always demanded respect just because of the size Ascn /Xetic had. That never changed. Sadly size isnt power a lesson you never learned. Ascn failed on so many levels and you were quick to blame every single point on someone else. The sad truth is every alliance folds or grows through its leadership. In short, you failed the alliance and in the end many "what ifs" are open for wild speculations but in the end you should have manned up and swalloed you pride. After reading your initial post im glad that you finally stopped beeing in power. If it hadnt been done already your alliance should have burned just on the basis of this single post of yours. However were done with that now since ure hunting npcs in empire which dont require huge forum posts. Get over with it and let it die already.



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