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Bellanea Rajanir
Poseidaon
295
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Posted - 2016.02.14 12:53:43 -
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Avvy wrote: Gone are the days when characters were equal to start with.
Communist lies.
"Station atmosphere not yet decontaminated for capsuleer consumption."
Just open the door. Let it ventilate for some time.
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Daniela Doran
Ministry of War Amarr Empire
474
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:04:36 -
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Chribba wrote: And on that note it's a shame CCP simply didn't allow injections over 100m or similar./c
And why would they do that when they can make a crap ton more on elitist that want to be the first to get a insta-maxed char before anyone else to known as the first pilot to max Eve?
The CCP you knew and greatly respected in the past are long gone. Todays CCP are no longer game developers, they are businessmen.
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Vickers Secretary
Weyland Inc.
0
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:05:11 -
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He did it with RMTing on Twitch, which is banned by CCP. "Subs get 4x Iron Modifier" - thats what his channel says. And exactly this is not allowed. When you do raffles like that, everybody has to get the same chances - and not "people that gave me real money get more chances to get stuff ingame".
Is there any place to report this guy? Support tickets maybe? I mean, this is clearly against the EULA |

Negasonic Teenage Warhead
State War Academy Caldari State
0
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:06:40 -
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This makes me very sad. |

Avvy
Republic University Minmatar Republic
305
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:08:16 -
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Bellanea Rajanir wrote:Avvy wrote: Gone are the days when characters were equal to start with.
Communist lies.
I'm not a communist, although I do think pure communism is the best system, but pure communism doesn't exist where humans are concerned because they are to easy to corrupt. |

Neuntausend
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
620
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:09:00 -
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Lan Wang wrote:there was restrictions then vets moaned because they were being penalised more for playing longer, they cant win really
They just opted to listen to those who weren't completely opposed to the idea of SP trading. Within that minority, the ones intending to swap around skills on high-SP characters were the majority. At least that's my impression.
CCP just lisened to the community - somewhat selectively, but they did. And that's what we ended up with. |

Arthur Aihaken
CODE.d
4975
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:11:22 -
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"Won't someone please think of the children?!" Really, I don't know why this continually bothers players. It's no different than the fact that most of us will never own a Titan, either.
I am currently away, traveling through time and will be returning last week.
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Celthric Kanerian
Ascendance Of New Eden Workers Trade Federation
642
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:11:29 -
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473,344,000 skill-*******-points o.O
And I only have 51 million... what the hell xD |

Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:11:32 -
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Logon statistics for that character is rather odd.. If you check the date of birth.
Time online: 53d 18h 37m Daily average: 17d 22h 12m 20s Logon count: 532
EVEBoard ...Just over 30million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Chopper Rollins
Lantean Empire
1228
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:14:34 -
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Lol what an idiot who cares?
Goggles. Making me look good. Making you look good.
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Nat Silverguard
Aideron Robotics
293
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:14:54 -
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Celise Katelo wrote:Logon statistics for that character is rather odd.. If you check the date of birth.
Time online: 53d 18h 37m Daily average: 17d 22h 12m 20s Logon count: 532
chribba already asnwered that earlier in this thread.
Just Add Water
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Celise Katelo
State War Academy Caldari State
182
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:18:25 -
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Nat Silverguard wrote:Celise Katelo wrote:Logon statistics for that character is rather odd.. If you check the date of birth.
Time online: 53d 18h 37m Daily average: 17d 22h 12m 20s Logon count: 532 chribba already asnwered that earlier in this thread.
Then saw it.. ops 
EVEBoard ...Just over 30million skill points, each skill was chosen for a reason. I closed my eyes & clicked another skill to train... "BINGO...!!!" ... "This time i got something usefull"
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Kelby
63
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:38:40 -
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Injections and extractions should have been limited to maybe 10million or so SP per year, this might be seen as a low number but it reflects my low opinion of this change.
Whatever an unbiased limit may have been there should have at least been a limit in the first place, the limit could have even been increased yearly over time to at least try to soften the impact.
Unfortunately the damage is done, I can't see a realistic way of undoing this. Maybe characters that inject SP should get an indicator on their character information so they can easily targeted :) |

Big Lynx
4828
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:42:05 -
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Vickers Secretary wrote:He did it with RMTing on Twitch, which is banned by CCP. "Subs get 4x Iron Modifier" - thats what his channel says. And exactly this is not allowed. When you do raffles like that, everybody has to get the same chances - and not "people that gave me real money get more chances to get stuff ingame".
Is there any place to report this guy? Support tickets maybe? I mean, this is clearly against the EULA Just write a ticket. CCP will look into this.... lel |

Johan Civire
Caldari Provisions Caldari State
1065
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:51:55 -
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Admiral Mason wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/IronBank
Make of it what you will.
a sad day.. Damn i told you s.... nvm quit eve.  |

oreman2
Brutor Tribe Minmatar Republic
1
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Posted - 2016.02.14 13:52:10 -
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i made a huge mistake reactivating very sad days in eve |

Agata Matahari
Royal Amarr Institute Amarr Empire
172
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:17:40 -
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Admiral Mason wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/IronBank
Make of it what you will.
*facepalm* well done, ccp! well done.. *golf claps* |

Dracvlad
Taishi Combine Second-Dawn
1309
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:25:25 -
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Chopper Rollins wrote:Lol what an idiot who cares?
I would second that, spot on, I know we have had our differences but you called this so right.
Do I give a monkies, nope, if he wants to waste trillions that's the stupidity of him and all those people who went on that stupid betting site, me I am at 110 m SP and I will continue playing my way, that person has no impact on me at all, by the very fact he did it makes him a loser in my book, why not spend that ISK to make a space empire, nope, he had not got it in him...
Ella's Snack bar. The Hisec sandbox is basically a themepark for gankers
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SKINE DMZ
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
500
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:28:54 -
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Not only was this a sh i tty idea that somehow the community at large fell for from the start (u can already buy characters!!!!!!), but secondly I can't believe there is no limit put in in any shape or form. I saw another post suggesting the face of your avatar turns blue if you inject too much, SOME kind of consequence for doing this was necessary to the very least.
IMO it's already messed up, new players needed some kind of 'scapegoat' which was skills to understand EVE before losing all their ****. The new standard on buying SP will ruin new player experiences as they won't have the patience.
I disagree
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Mr Mieyli
Hedion University Amarr Empire
198
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:31:27 -
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oreman2 wrote:i made a huge mistake reactivating  very sad days in eve
I know what you mean, I went and bought a 6 month sub before Christmas. Now I feel like I might as well play WoWS; it has better ship-to-ship combat and has about as much meaning attached. EvE has changed from being the harsh cold technologically plausible universe that it once was to a hollow shell. Change after change has stripped life from the game with even small things such as the MWD name changes have been a part of this. Once upon a time this game felt like an ultra-harsh version of real life set in space, the ultimate sci-fi simulator. Now it feels like a bunch of bored kids throwing sand at each other, where losses don't matter because isk is easily farmable, where play time no longer matters because you can buy your way there. I'm struggling to justify continuing my subscription once it runs out, this game no longer feels like an MMO but instead more like FarmVille.
CCP have lost heir original vision of eve, the have caved into players always asking for more. They will never have enough and chasing their demands will run the game into the ground. When eve was the best sci-fi sim around it always had that niche, now I worry it's losing it's unique features and becoming another bland commercialised game.
A case for more AoE in EvE
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Dibz
Imperial Academy Amarr Empire
51
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:37:41 -
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I wonder to what extent this new two-tier character progression system will affect the general perception of EVE Online, both for the players and for the gaming world as a whole.
Not being able to afford to boost your character kind of feels like riding your bicycle uphill in the rain while you watch all the cars drive past you  |

Gabriel Karade
Noir. Mercenary Coalition
302
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:37:42 -
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probably should have introduced a logarithmic function, rather than simple thresholds, to the quantity of SP transferred per injector for a given starting SP.
War Machine: http://www.eveonline.com/ingameboard.asp?a=topic&threadID=386293
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Dr Caymus
Applied Technologies Inc Agents of Fortune
112
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:40:55 -
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The new skill system: Dawn of a New Era or Epic Fail
Perhaps I owe CCP an apology for making a goal of leading the skillpoint group for the last 13 years, I must have offended them greatly for them to do what they have done to the system.
However, now a complete mockery of the system has been made with a 3-day-old character. Was that not seen coming?
This could have been done much more effectively with more controls: more tiers with decreasing marginal gains at higher SP levels, daily limits, or whatever.
Back up and restore, anyone? |

Big Lynx
4828
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:42:42 -
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Mr Mieyli wrote:oreman2 wrote:i made a huge mistake reactivating  very sad days in eve I know what you mean, I went and bought a 6 month sub before Christmas. Now I feel like I might as well play WoWS; it has better ship-to-ship combat and has about as much meaning attached. EvE has changed from being the harsh cold technologically plausible universe that it once was to a hollow shell. Change after change has stripped life from the game with even small things such as the MWD name changes have been a part of this. Once upon a time this game felt like an ultra-harsh version of real life set in space, the ultimate sci-fi simulator. Now it feels like a bunch of bored kids throwing sand at each other, where losses don't matter because isk is easily farmable, where play time no longer matters because you can buy your way there. I'm struggling to justify continuing my subscription once it runs out, this game no longer feels like an MMO but instead more like FarmVille. CCP have lost heir original vision of eve, the have caved into players always asking for more. They will never have enough and chasing their demands will run the game into the ground. When eve was the best sci-fi sim around it always had that niche, now I worry it's losing it's unique features and becoming another bland commercialised game. Well said sir. Eve feels so average now. |

SKINE DMZ
Federal Defense Union Gallente Federation
501
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Posted - 2016.02.14 14:50:38 -
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Dibz wrote:Not being able to afford to boost your character kind of feels like riding your bicycle uphill in the rain while you watch all the cars drive past you 
Yup I think people never realised or even considered that buying SP will become the standard for new players because of this, they already feel behind because of how long this game has been running. They will never develop the patience to wait on a month long skill, instead feel the need to grind or buy ISK.
People like to say having SP doesn't make you win EVE, but that's like saying a level 60 in WoW doesn't make you win, of course it doesn't but being able to buy a level 60 character does devalue the journey and experience to fellow players.
I disagree
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Bumblefck
Kerensky Initiatives
10804
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:06:23 -
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Dawny Star wrote:I'd really like to hear a Dev. viewpoint on this, a lot of Dev's are ex-players and I can't imagine this was what they had in mind for this service?
Some possible restrictions you could add to the service.
Prepping T3 Tear Injectors
This thread is now the Official Crybaby Thread
Got a HoleySheet1 corpse? I'll buy it for 200m!
Bumble's Space Log
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Boom Boom Longtime
EVE Corporation 6908469858 Heroes and Villains.
1257
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:08:23 -
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CCP allowed their own corporate greed to renege on the fundamental core principles of the game they created.
Sums it up really.
What "exciting new features" will be rolled out next to shamelessly endeavour to milk more cash from the playberbase?
Concord Approved Trader
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Caleb Seremshur
Gladiators of Rage RAZOR Alliance
732
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:14:03 -
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Agata Matahari wrote:Admiral Mason wrote:http://eveboard.com/pilot/IronBank
Make of it what you will. *facepalm* well done, ccp! well done.. *golf claps*
What you think that the upper echelons of any of the big null groups can't do the same thing with their dozens of supers/titan alts?
I saw a guy post a screencap today of his wallet - 76 trilion isk. How many skill extractors is that?
The only solid fact to be gleaned from this social experiment is that this game has an extremely mature economy with not enough sinks.
Veteran and solo/small gang PVP advocate.
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Tipa Riot
Federal Navy Academy Gallente Federation
2193
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:15:04 -
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Where are all the players telling newbies, skill points do not matter? 
Now we realize, this was and is a lie.
I fell this myself after applying a couple of skill injectors ... I can have everything instantly ... but why? 
EvE had the feeling of a real open world, with limits, with unreachable goals, like getting all skills ... now it feels the eternity folded into the beginning, EvE became a closed loop ... 
I'm my own NPC alt.
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Kiandoshia
Gambrini
2416
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Posted - 2016.02.14 15:26:21 -
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Did anyone do the maths on how many SP were nuked in this endeavor?
I don't think it's going to change much for Eve but it makes me feel like Eve has lost a bit of.. idk.. Eve.
Oh well. I bet it helps new players though :trollface.jpg: |
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