At the moment that player can't even log into the game, let alone fly those ships.

Greetings capsuleers!

Today, we are happy to announce a new change thatGÇÖs coming to EVE Online in November that will fundamentally change New Eden, and how our pilots access it via the EVE client.

In short, cloning scientists in New Eden have developed a new method of cloning that revolves around two new clone states, Alpha and Omega. Omega clones will be familiar to all our current players, and will operate just like a subscribed character does today. Alpha clones will be accessible for free, without subscription, and will be capable of training an assigned set of skills themed to a characterGÇÖs race.

A Dev Blog has been published by Team Size Matters today with more details on this feature, and a questions and answers section where we look to clear up some initial concerns and questions regarding this change.

It strikes me as odd that you need a separate account for each alt - try remembering all that login info?! - rather than just being able to make all these on one account and train them all - but when you make a subscription just choose which character it applies to.

Is there a good reason for this? To me it just seems bad.

in b4 someone says "to me you just seem bad". <3 eve

Alpha can't use cyno.

Okay, so what happens when you need to evac your stuff from a pos/Citadel. But then you cant fly your x ship.

Or your in a super, but only you cant jump and you cant pay a sub because x problem? You now cant jump or defend yourself, you have to stay logged off because suddenly your clone decides "oops im actually super dumb"

Alternatively, your a new player who can no longer afford to sub after 4 months of subbed play, now all your skills are gone and your back to square one?

Fine, great.



But do please tell me why the hell do we vote for CSM again when they aren't even notified of this.

I mean English may be a second language to me but it does seem to me that you neither thought nor really wanted to bring in on such a game-changing decision.

Also they are now relegated to "ticket counters". Nice work!

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5) These free players are going to suck up resources that are already heavily competed for. Specifically exploration sites. As it catches on we are going to have to compete more and more with free players to the point where grinding is going to become so grindy thats literally all you can do in game is try to grind a few million isk. So CCP will have to increase the amount of resources seeded in the game to match the demand, and honestly they havent been impressing me lately. I feel like they are concentrating a lot of revenue generation and not so much on making the game entertaining. I feel like what is done for upgrades in game is a rush job that is usually delayed multiple times and still buggy as hell when it comes out but revenue generation seems to be in nearly every major update.

20 Pages already... I am glad I skipped much of it.


First off; if any devs beat me to answering on any of these thoughts, let me know. Below. I will be watching this thread closely.

First, I saw concerns about Jump Cloning...so I did a search in the article that lists the skills available to the Alpha Clones and guess what is NOT in the list for any of them...INFOMORPH PSYCHOLOGY...

Yes, it is bolded, underlined, and in caps for a good reason. Apparently some of you forgot that skill is needed for Jump Clones AND how to use the Crtl-F function to find on a page a word you are looking for. All I had to type in was Infomorph to find out that it was nowhere in the list. So yeah, Jump Clones are out or the Alphas already.

Now looking through the skills, I am glad to see some limits placed. But some of the limits could be upped to give the Newbro Alphas a chance against some of us with even 8 months of experience and skills in the game.


First, beef up the Armor and Shield Resistance Compensation skills to 3. This will allow them to get more out of their tanking for Shield or Armor.


Second, limit logins for an Alpha to one account on one computer and not on the same email address and IP address. Do not know if there is a way to detect people hiding their IP address. Any attempt to login that character from another computer should be met with an alert or suspension to prevent multiboxing or throwaway Ganking fleets. Yes, this applies to people who have Omega Accounts as well.


Third, set safeties to yellow at minimum in High Security Space.


Fourth ( and this is from personal experience) allow some some form of planetary interaction (Cert 2 or 3 maybe?) for Alphas. Either of those Certs limits their impact on the in-game while letting them explore this facet of the game.

Fifth, checking APIs for Account Type. This allows Corps and Alliances to recruit them if they want or tell them no and why. Also make this something that can be picked in Corp searches for Alpha-friendly Corps/Alliances.

Sixth, we need a new "This is EVE" trailer for the Alphas to entice them.


Anyways, this is my two cents on the matter. Let me know what you guys think.

In other news, CCP has announced new "golden" ammos for each race!
Amarr - Conflag, Scorch, Gleam, Aurora
Caldari - Void, Null, Javelin, Spike
Gallente - Void, Null, Javelin, Spike
Minmatar - Hail, Barrage, Quake, Tremor

Just think: no longer will OGBs be the standard reason that someone lost a fight to you. It'll because you're subbed or "p2w". Squee!

-Liang

I dont think it will end well.

CCP, stop until it will be too late. You will not gain money on this.
It will not solve problems. It will cause many new ones.

They notified the CSM and us at about the same time with 2 months before this is implemented. This way they can get maximum feedback. What is the problem here, you'd rather be kept in the dark longer?

I agree with the Yellow safety and multiple account online at the same time but

I think ANY passive income will be abused

Allow Alpha pi even if limited to 1 planet and there will be players with 500 free accounts in a wormhole with one planet each on maxed extraction cycles generating ISK

Introduce permadeath. Podded Alphas are permanently gone.
Remove the tech II ship and module restrictions. Up the skill cap.

Experience New Eden as a human among immortals. One play for a quarter.

Let's make EvE darker.

I just concerned about one thing: how about mulitple charactors under same account, if you are paid player, your main charactor is omega, the other two will regard as omega too or as alpha

I just concerned about one thing: how about mulitple charactors under same account, if you are paid player, your main charactor is omega, the other two will regard as omega too or as alpha