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Algarion Getz
Aideron Corp
199
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Posted - 2016.08.31 21:58:06 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:TheVirus32 wrote: - Flexible plex prices, AKA: the more the demand the more the prices get closer to regular 1 month membership prices, to ensure that plex doesn't go through the roof (and that's coming from someone who never plexes, because I like keeping my iskies)
Uhhh...why? Are Alpha's going to be buying PLEX? For what purpose? If anything they'll likely be selling them to get ISK. Errr for upgrading to omega? The change to the F2P model is supposed to attract people who cant afford paying the sub with real money, so PLEX will be in high demand if the F2P model is successful.
I dont think that players who cant afford a 12Gé¼ subscription will buy many 20Gé¼ PLEX. |
Kusum Fawn
Perkone Caldari State
558
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Posted - 2016.08.31 21:58:31 -
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I guess they just really dont want any freighters to move in hisec at all.
Its not possible to please all the people all the time, but it sure as hell is possible to Displease all the people, most of the time.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 21:59:03 -
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Andrea Cemenotar wrote:win189 wrote:i think there should be Some Exceptions to this like for example if a Alpha logs in and a omega logs in it will allow but it will only restrict one alpha at a time
can't upvote it enought! :) Moac Tor wrote:Andrea Cemenotar wrote:Moac Tor wrote:You'll have to make it so all alpha skills are unable to be extracted, otherwise it will be very easy to milk free SP at no cost.
And by the way, I don't think this will influence subscribers unless it is matched by an improvement in the NPE.
This is basically just the same as the free trial in many respects, and so I wouldn't expect any major changes in subscriber numbers as a result. The possibilities for exploitation though are great if this isn't implemented carefully. the minimal amount of sp you have to have prior to using extraction is 5.5 million SPs in the dev blog they say that fully maxed in skillz alpha should have around 5mill SPs which is somewhere around 500k SPs short to use an extractor anyway so officially stating "alphas cannot use extractor" would be imo kinda redundant [other thing being old toons with advanced skills trained that turned alpha and wish to extract SPs from "locked out" skillz] 1. Get a 5mil SP character who's SP is not allocated in the Alpha skills. 2. Revert to an Alpha clone. 3. Train all the Alpha skills to maximum of 5mil SP worth. 4. Subscribe for a month and extract all the Alpha skill SP. 5. Revert to an Alpha clone. 6. Train all the Alpha skills to maximum of 5mil SP worth. 7. Subscribe for a month and extract all the Alpha skill SP. 8. Repeat for free SP. It doesn't take much for someone to work this out and then scale it onto hundreds of accounts. hmmmm I have to admitt I haven't thought about it this way but then to be honest the amount of time needed for each cycle makes it feels [to me] quite ineffective - at least compared to currently existing SP farms
It is not free SP unless you consider subbing every other month to be "free".
Further, the subbed character is no longer an Alpha, they are no Omega clones. So, the idea of preventing Alphas from using extractors won't mean anything.
If you really wanted to stop this, prevent extractors from working when there are unallocated SP.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Dayltor
Pandemic Horde Inc. Pandemic Horde
1
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Posted - 2016.08.31 21:59:08 -
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If they cut into my gobloons, this is a horrible change.
Otherwise, great change. Can't wait to see it happen. |
Caco De'mon
The Conference Elite CODE.
74
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:00:09 -
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Kusum Fawn wrote:I guess they just really dont want any freighters to move in hisec at all.
Then get into the shipping escort biz....
When you think CCP give you lemons, make lemonade!
*"See now that I, even I, am he, and there is no god with me: I kill, and I make alive; I wound, and I heal: neither is there any that can deliver out of my hand."
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Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic.
643
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:01:05 -
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I vote only 1 F2P Account allowed on same IP as a sub account, otherwise, 1 Account only.
Also, no skills beyond level 3...
In addition...
- No Advanced Modules
- No Cloaks at all unless time limit given to prototype cloaks
- T1 cruiser to L1 Mastery no further
- No Mining Barges
- Must maintain security status of -1 or higher
- Cannot start a corporation or alliance
- Abuse of the system/players using F2P will result in permaband of F2P accounts and any subbed accounts, with clear rules as to what constitutes abuse. Of course, this is predicated on the idea of being caught abusing it.
- 1 Billion ISK cap of account. If they have enough ISK to buy Plex, they need to play free that way.
- Market Sell cap of 500 million, can't have any more sell orders at a time than that in value.
I may edit this post with more as I think of it.
8 Golden Rules of EVE GÇó EVE is entirely PvP
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Eli Stan
Center for Advanced Studies Gallente Federation
604
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:02:10 -
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Roenok Baalnorn wrote:snip
1. Eve already has undesireables.
2. True, remains to be seen if this will increase player counts.
3. If an alliance can organize a thousand+ players to engage in a single system which produces TIDI - more power to them. That's a thousand+ players in EVE that otherwise wouldn't be here. If an alliance (say, TEST or PH) can organize a thousand+ Alpha players and take SOV with them, more power to them.
4. What sort of resources do you mean? Server CPU cycles? Doubtful. Asteriods? Also doubtful. And from the devblog: "As you know, EVE is a very special game. Our single shard server means that every player truly affects every other, whether through economics, resource gathering, direct combat or bad posting. This in turn means that our universe is more interesting, more exciting and more dangerous with each additional citizen."
5 & 6. Perhaps, but that remains to be seen.
7. I'm fine with that so long as you can't have more than one of them online at once.
8 & 9. Slow support ticket response time or having to hire new suport staff are no reasons to not try to get new players in the game.
10. Crowd Omega players out of highsec? Good. But there are plenty of resources to go around in highsec anyway, don't worry.
11. That's simply a function of having more people in the game. We want more people in the game.
12. CCP will continue to iterate on the game.
Quote:You want an answer to the trial BS... here it is:
1) Set up a free to play server that is separate from TQ. 2) No restrictions on this server 3) No customer support for this server. You want customer support you have to pay for it. 4) No plexes or skill injectors on this server. 5) The server is wiped clean every 6 months. 6) At any time you may transfer your character and your assets to TQ with your character in its current state. The cost of this transfer is that you buy a 1 month sub plus $5 transfer fee. The transfer fee is waived with a 3 month sub or more.
Play your heart out free player. When your sick of being reset, come join us on TQ. Otherwise take all the time you need to learn game mechanics. You could also leave the trial up on TQ as is and give people that option.
OMG NO. This is horrible. We want new players to engage in the shared world, not keep them separate.
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Max Fubarticus
K Diamond Holding LTD. Bullets Bombs and Blondes
168
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:03:14 -
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Oh! this is going to end well LOL
I predict the "Great Alpha Omega War" in YC... whatever year 2017 is.
Imagine... Burst Omega boosters in an Alpha fleet. "Frenemy" Alpha Fleets "Awoxing Alphas" etc.
Let the great Clone Wars begin!!
Max
Civil discourse is uniquely human. After all, when is the last time a pride of lions and a herd of water buffalo negotiated SOV over a watering hole? Never.
Someone either gets their ass kicked or eaten. At the end of the day someone holds SOV.
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Andrea Cemenotar
Elena Minasse Operations
17
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:04:26 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:[
hmmmm I have to admitt I haven't thought about it this way
but then to be honest the amount of time needed for each cycle makes it feels [to me] quite ineffective - at least compared to currently existing SP farms
It is not free SP unless you consider subbing every other month to be "free".
Further, the subbed character is no longer an Alpha, they are no Omega clones. So, the idea of preventing Alphas from using extractors won't mean anything.
If you really wanted to stop this, prevent extractors from working when there are unallocated SP. [/quote]
he meant extracting "alpha allowed skills" as omega with 5mill+ in omega-only skills and then allowing it to drop back to alpha for reskilling those alpha allowed skills - but the longer I think about it, the more I get to think tha whole idea is just gimped less effective attempt of currently existing SP farms..... |
Anah Sarlai
Applied Anarchy ChaosTheory.
8
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:06:01 -
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Please don't forget , ppl can gank with numbers of alts that are free to create. There should be engagement limitations in highsec
Imagine the literally Alphastrike team with 100-200 alts by a few players on freighters.
Ppl will just harass the s*ht out of ppl with multiple logged in alphas for scout/potential eye for ganks... Yes it will increase newcomers numbers, maybe increase eve community, but in the other hand will boost up ppl with power to use extra alts...
I would try to find out a method, you can only use this alpha account when you dont have around multiple mains/subscripted accs
I would personnaly with the current rules make 10-20 alts like this, log on them and infest nullsec systems to harass out ppl and kill ADM-s at a zone... if i can do it, anyone can and image in a war there will be 10-20 alpha accounts sitting each system in a region...
I say its a smart idea until you get in the factor of ppl who use alts to get intel/gank/harass
Thats my feeling bout it, so please try to work on a system that limits such exploits
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Kolmogorow
Freedom Resources
135
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:06:48 -
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Moac Tor wrote:
4. Subscribe for a month and extract all the Alpha skill SP.
Extracting SPs from the Alpha skill set won't be allowed as the Dev Blog says:
"Currently, we are planning to require Omega state for skill extraction and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set."
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Tiddle Jr
Red Federation RvB - RED Federation
883
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:06:50 -
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f2p p2w what's next? I'm about to sell my toons and never bother with subs. My Alpha army is coming...
"The message is that there are known knowns. There are things we know that we know. There are known unknowns. That is to say there are things that we now know we don't know. But there are also unknown unknowns. There are things we don't know" - CCP
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:06:54 -
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Pandora Carrollon wrote:I vote only 1 F2P Account allowed on same IP as a sub account, otherwise, 1 Account only. Also, no skills beyond level 3... In addition...
- No Advanced Modules
- No Cloaks at all unless time limit given to prototype cloaks
- T1 cruiser to L1 Mastery no further
- No Mining Barges
- Must maintain security status of -1 or higher
- Cannot start a corporation or alliance
- Abuse of the system/players using F2P will result in permaband of F2P accounts and any subbed accounts, with clear rules as to what constitutes abuse. Of course, this is predicated on the idea of being caught abusing it.
- 1 Billion ISK cap of account. If they have enough ISK to buy Plex, they need to play free that way.
- Market Sell cap of 500 million, can't have any more sell orders at a time than that in value.
I may edit this post with more as I think of it.
Maybe you should read the DevBlog....?
They already state cloaking is out as are cynos for Alphas. Mining barges too based on the requirements are not in the Alpha Skill list. And I think the alliance thing is also covered in the skill lists. As for corporations, that is allowed as players can train corp management to level 1.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:07:45 -
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Kolmogorow wrote:Moac Tor wrote:
4. Subscribe for a month and extract all the Alpha skill SP.
Extracting SPs from the Alpha skill set won't be allowed as the Dev Blog says: "Currently, we are planning to require Omega state for skill extraction and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set."
Poor Moac....
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Roenok Baalnorn
Sadistically Sinister
329
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:10:06 -
[585] - Quote
Teckos Pech wrote:Roenok Baalnorn wrote: 2) Lots of free players do not always mean lots more paying customers. In a F2P/P2W game about 50% of the players will never pay 2 play despite the fact they are at a significant disadvantage. The Clone model of eve doesnt put them at a significant disadvantage. They can still do everything paying players can, just in crappier ships with crappier mods.
Sooo...they can't do everything a paying player can. Can they use a cloak for a variety of reasons? No. Can they light a cyno? No. Can they use capitals? No. Can they invent T2 modules and the like? No.
Im comparing game models not what a free player eve can do to what a paying player can do.... totally different. In F2P/ P2W models they use a sheep/wolf concept. You either volunteer to be the sheep or you pay to be the wolf. It works because once you get past a 2-4 weeks in game, everything gets stupidly long and you start needing special items for things that can only be bought. Imagine training amarr BS level 5 and it taking 350 days for that one level. Training Amarr dread level 3 and it taking 480 days. training Amarr titan 4 and it taking 2369 days. Then you are offered 5 day speed ups, 50 day speed ups, 500 day speed ups, etc. Every few weeks they move the goal post and introduce new special items that make everything else obsolete or underpowered. It becomes a massive money sink. You would spend less money drunk in Las Vegas than you would just too stay competitive.
In Eve that wont happen. Because i can start a gallente character. And basically farm high sec for months or years and never pay for anything. I dont have to try to compete no more than anyone else. I cant use more powerful ships. But so what? Its high sec.
Give me a Vexor and i can do amazing things with farming in high sec. In fact can Alphas use faction/deadspace? If alphas can use faction and deadspace then they could use a VNI with faction amps, faction prop, and faction tank mods and farm nearly as well as a player that can T2 fit everything. I have an alt that is pro at a gila ( even though Alphas couldnt use this because of the dual ship train) and can get 650 dps out of with less than 5 mil SP and a good enough tank to do DED 5/10s.
They are restricted on trains/ mods/ ships. But there are ways around that without paying and they can farm high sec for infinity competing with paying players who really cant do anything but suicide gank them. Welcome to Space Farmville. Leave your wallet at home, its not needed here. Advanced Alpha Newbro Frustration level V training and will be completed as soon as i scan down my 15th plex today and find a newbro in a caracal/vexor running it for the 14th time. |
James Zimmer
D3RP Clan Elemental Tide
48
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:10:13 -
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First, I'm very excited about the change. I can already think of a friend who isn't willing to subscribe right now who may be willing to try out a free, limited account.
The next thing is that I think there is an extremely delicate balance that has to be achieved when it comes to skills. Too much and the wrong ones, and they'll become an exploitable alt army (I checked for gas harvesting almost immediately and am relieved that it is not on the list). On the other hand, too few skills, and we're going to have a lot of frustrated newbies who leave EVE with a bad taste in their mouth.
To that end, may I suggest allowing Alphas to fly interceptors. Because of their ability to zip through bubbles and insta-warp, interceptors are the taxi of nullsec, and a huge quality of life improvement for those living there. It would be much easier to recruit someone into a nullsec corp if they could fly them. |
Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:10:15 -
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Andrea Cemenotar wrote:
he meant extracting "alpha allowed skills" as omega with 5mill+ in omega-only skills and then allowing it to drop back to alpha for reskilling those alpha allowed skills - but the longer I think about it, the more I get to think tha whole idea is just gimped less effective attempt of currently existing SP farms.....
Yeah, as somebody pointed out, not going to be possible.
Quote: Q: Can Alpha clones inject and extract skills?
A: You can Inject skills regardless of your clone state. Currently, we are planning to require Omega state for skill extraction and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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IcewaterKat
0
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:10:35 -
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So the decision for free to play means end of life, like it does for every other game that goes that route.
Wanna be top dog, well pay to win is the way to go. I hate PTW games, it's just pathetic. So does this mean that EVE is turning into FarmVille? Obviously not, but I can see Alpha corps kicking more butt than paying customers.
There is no long any point for casual players to pay EVE any more, unless they just have to fly a tech 2 ship.
I see that any skill that an Alpha Clone can use symbolizes 'nerfed' skills. A lot of those level 4 skills are quite powerful and Level 5 anything is just overkill for what is allowed.
The level of irresponsible griefing that actual paid players can and some most certainly will without consequence, will exceed the level of what CCP will expect. You know we all surprise you with what we pull off already, if we can use it as an exploit for profit or revenge, it will be done with the skills that will surpass expectation.
__TL;DR__
I'm not mad. Nope. not yet. I'll wait until November for that.
I'm disappointed.
Not once was an attempt made to lower the price of subscriptions to try to encourage new players to come to Eve.
Truly disappointed and a bit ashamed that I pay to play EVE Online. |
oiukhp Muvila
School of Applied Knowledge Caldari State
4
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:10:37 -
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Arkoth 24 wrote:CCP Falcon wrote:Alpha clones will be accessible for free... And so the horde of ret-¦rded kids is coming. .
They've been here for years. |
Andrea Cemenotar
Elena Minasse Operations
17
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:12:08 -
[590] - Quote
Pandora Carrollon wrote:In addition...
- No Advanced Modules
- No Cloaks at all unless time limit given to prototype cloaks
- T1 cruiser to L1 Mastery no further
- No Mining Barges
- Must maintain security status of -1 or higher
- Cannot start a corporation or alliance
- Abuse of the system/players using F2P will result in permaband of F2P accounts and any subbed accounts, with clear rules as to what constitutes abuse. Of course, this is predicated on the idea of being caught abusing it.
- 1 Billion ISK cap of account. If they have enough ISK to buy Plex, they need to play free that way.
- Market Sell cap of 500 million, can't have any more sell orders at a time than that in value.
I may edit this post with more as I think of it. [1] covered in a blog [I think] [2]straightly said in the blog [3] I'd have to check how far in mastery allowed skills push the t1 cruiser mastery >.> [4]Mining Barge skill is not on the alpha allowed skill list - hence covered already in a blog [5] interesting note :) [6]IIRC starting eny requires having a skill trained... which skill is not on the list of skilla allowed for alpha clone to use [7]I think they have mentioned in a blog abusing still beign bannable? [8]risky - plex often happens to be above 1bil isk in price [9]that seems to me like redundant and not really needed - with skill limitains they have, what they would have been selling to exceed that mark anyway? |
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Mento Audrission
Dark Angel's Legion
1
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:13:09 -
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The only question is......why? |
Andrea Cemenotar
Elena Minasse Operations
17
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:14:55 -
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Teckos Pech wrote:Andrea Cemenotar wrote:
he meant extracting "alpha allowed skills" as omega with 5mill+ in omega-only skills and then allowing it to drop back to alpha for reskilling those alpha allowed skills - but the longer I think about it, the more I get to think tha whole idea is just gimped less effective attempt of currently existing SP farms.....
Yeah, as somebody pointed out, not going to be possible. Quote: Q: Can Alpha clones inject and extract skills?
A: You can Inject skills regardless of your clone state. Currently, we are planning to require Omega state for skill extraction and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set.
now I feel stupid for reading the blog from the beginning to the end and not noticing the part " and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set." in Q/A >.< |
Lugh Crow-Slave
2941
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:16:12 -
[593] - Quote
Crack Spawn wrote:
Skills based system for spying/infiltrating
lol what?
Citadel worm hole tax
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:17:40 -
[594] - Quote
Roenok Baalnorn wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Roenok Baalnorn wrote: 2) Lots of free players do not always mean lots more paying customers. In a F2P/P2W game about 50% of the players will never pay 2 play despite the fact they are at a significant disadvantage. The Clone model of eve doesnt put them at a significant disadvantage. They can still do everything paying players can, just in crappier ships with crappier mods.
Sooo...they can't do everything a paying player can. Can they use a cloak for a variety of reasons? No. Can they light a cyno? No. Can they use capitals? No. Can they invent T2 modules and the like? No. Im comparing game models not what a free player eve can do to what a paying player can do.... totally different. In F2P/ P2W models they use a sheep/wolf concept. You either volunteer to be the sheep or you pay to be the wolf. It works because once you get past a 2-4 weeks in game, everything gets stupidly long and you start needing special items for things that can only be bought. Imagine training amarr BS level 5 and it taking 350 days for that one level. Training Amarr dread level 3 and it taking 480 days. training Amarr titan 4 and it taking 2369 days. Then you are offered 5 day speed ups, 50 day speed ups, 500 day speed ups, etc. Every few weeks they move the goal post and introduce new special items that make everything else obsolete or underpowered. It becomes a massive money sink. You would spend less money drunk in Las Vegas than you would just too stay competitive.
What?
Quote:In Eve that wont happen. Because i can start a gallente character. And basically farm high sec for months or years and never pay for anything. I dont have to try to compete no more than anyone else. I cant use more powerful ships. But so what? Its high sec.
Wow, you are going run missions and mine for years. Holy Hell I can't think of anything more depressing.
Quote:Give me a Vexor and i can do amazing things with farming in high sec. In fact can Alphas use faction/deadspace? If alphas can use faction and deadspace then they could use a VNI with faction amps, faction prop, and faction tank mods and farm nearly as well as a player that can T2 fit everything. I have an alt that is pro at a gila ( even though Alphas couldnt use this because of the dual ship train) and can get 650 dps out of with less than 5 mil SP and a good enough tank to do DED 5/10s.
Cause farming HS is everything in Eve.
Oh, and if they want to fit deadspace stuff to their VNI fine, I'll look forward to the whine threads on the forums after they get ganked. Hell I might take up ganking mission runners as well.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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Winter Archipelago
Autumn Industrial Enterprises
626
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:18:20 -
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IcewaterKat wrote: There is no long any point for casual players to pay EVE any more, unless they just have to fly a tech 2 ship.
T2 ships, most T2 mods, Battlecruisers, battleships, faction ships, cloaks, mining in anything more than a Venture, any type of activity in a wormhole above C2 (with the exception of small bits of exploration), Entosis, research, invention, large-scale manufacturing of anything that makes ISK, PI, effective combat scanning, ice mining, anything to do with any type of structure that matters...
I think I've made my point, so I'm just going to stop here.
For the Newbies: The 8 Golden Rules - The Magic 14 Skills - Finding the Right Corp - EVE University Wiki
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Scatim Helicon
GoonWaffe Goonswarm Federation
3435
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:27:17 -
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Mento Audrission wrote:The only question is......why? Because subscription numbers, as best as we can tell, have fallen off a cliff compared to a few years ago.
Post on the Eve-o forums with a Goonswarm Federation character that drinking bleach is bad for you, and 20 forum warriors will hospitalise themselves trying to prove you wrong.
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Teckos Pech
The Executives Executive Outcomes
5160
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:27:49 -
[597] - Quote
Andrea Cemenotar wrote:Teckos Pech wrote:Andrea Cemenotar wrote:
he meant extracting "alpha allowed skills" as omega with 5mill+ in omega-only skills and then allowing it to drop back to alpha for reskilling those alpha allowed skills - but the longer I think about it, the more I get to think tha whole idea is just gimped less effective attempt of currently existing SP farms.....
Yeah, as somebody pointed out, not going to be possible. Quote: Q: Can Alpha clones inject and extract skills?
A: You can Inject skills regardless of your clone state. Currently, we are planning to require Omega state for skill extraction and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set. now I feel stupid for reading the blog from the beginning to the end and not noticing the part " and also not allow the extraction of skills in the Alpha set." in Q/A >.<
Don't feel bad, seems most of us missed it too.
"The curious task of economics is to demonstrate to men how little they really know about what they imagine they can design."--Friedrich August von Hayek
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AkJon Ferguson
JC Ferguson and Son Ltd Ferguson Alliance
290
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:28:17 -
[598] - Quote
President Donald Trump will Make America Great Again.
Yeah, this Alpha/Omega Clone idea. I really liked it when I heard it. Having read quite a few posts in here, I think there are some significant problems with it if it isn't tweaked. But I hardly login anymore so it really doesn't matter what I think. |
Pandora Carrollon
Dawn of a New Horizon The Republic.
643
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:33:01 -
[599] - Quote
Teckos Pech wrote:Maybe you should read the DevBlog....?
They already state cloaking is out as are cynos for Alphas. Mining barges too based on the requirements are not in the Alpha Skill list. And I think the alliance thing is also covered in the skill lists. As for corporations, that is allowed as players can train corp management to level 1.
I have read the blog and about everything I can get my hands on ATM, however, I also assume that anything that CCP says at this point is FLUID and thus I want my "voice" to remain on the named issues. I may not hate what CCP is doing but I certainly don't trust them to keep their current position.
I have my reasons for all of them, most of the reasons are based on things I can already think in my head on how to abuse.
8 Golden Rules of EVE GÇó EVE is entirely PvP
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The Leopardess
Viziam Amarr Empire
61
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Posted - 2016.08.31 22:33:12 -
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Just because I send silly amounts of money to this game whenever I look at it sideways doesn't mean I think everyone should - or can. Free play means more people to kill and buy my crap! Yay! I doubt I will even bother owning an alpha unless maybe an extra scout or something. |
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