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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:10:00 -
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Edited by: Sorted on 18/04/2007 20:09:06
Many have been asking about our future after the changes, I am not here to adress that at this time. We are adapting, details will be shared after the patch day.
For now though, we have this to say:
 2007.04.18 20:05
Privateer Alliance has declared war on C C P.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 19:22
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Game Master Retirement Home.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 19:21
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Game Masters.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
I would also like to add, Yarrrrrrr
Sorted
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FireFox McProwler
Caldari
Dirty Deeds Corp.
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:12:00 -
[2]
Yar to war in empire!
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Audemed
Wraiths Reborn
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:12:00 -
[3]
I fully support this thread, and the ideas contained within!
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Currently stationed in Iraq, 190 days left to go!
PVP in EvE is consentual, you agree to it when you login.
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Lunas Feelgood
Maza Nostra
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:13:00 -
[4]
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
 Originally by: Shamis Orzoz
When the going gets tough...the tough join Bob.
Originally by: Shin Ra
Didn't u get the memo? Bending over is the new honorable thing to do!
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Mr Abbadon
Svea Rike
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:13:00 -
[5]
LoL best thread ever here *rofl* very good one and good luck, may the force be with you.
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Bangoura
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:15:00 -
[6]
Hehehe
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Letava
Gallente
Svefn-G-Englar
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:15:00 -
[7]
Originally by: Sorted
Edited by: Sorted on 18/04/2007 20:09:06
Many have been asking about our future after the changes, I am not here to adress that at this time. We are adapting, details will be shared after the patch day.
For now though, we have this to say:
2007.04.18 20:05
Privateer Alliance has declared war on C C P.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 19:22
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Game Master Retirement Home.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 19:21
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Game Masters.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
I would also like to add, Yarrrrrrr
Sorted
Last I heard of someone trying this, they said they got made to retract. If it was me in one of those corps, I'd just jump in my Polaris or Jove ships and go and have some fun
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:16:00 -
[8]
Edited by: SFShootme on 18/04/2007 20:23:41
this should be interesting
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:16:00 -
[9]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
You cant shoot them anyways, they all have invincible characters, mods, tools etc- its more of a playfull poke in the ribs.
If I am to be banned for it - well I issued them - I'll take the hit as I wouldnt want to play if they take themselves too seriously anyways
To the new War targets.. BRING IT,.... YARRR 
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Hei'di
Righteous Choirboys
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:17:00 -
[10]
I'm in an epic PRVTR thread, I hope not the last one...
cheers
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Madmartigan
Gallente
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:18:00 -
[11]
If ever we would fly with Privateer¦s, that¦s the occasion............lol..........how fun woulnd¦t it be to fight dev¦s and gm¦s :)
Mad
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Slave 775
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:19:00 -
[12]
Edited by: Slave 775 on 18/04/2007 20:15:35
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
You cant shoot them anyways, they all have invincible characters, mods, tools etc- its more of a playfull poke in the ribs.
If I am to be banned for it - well I issued them - I'll take the hit as I wouldnt want to play if they take themselves too seriously anyways
To the new War targets.. BRING IT,.... YARRR
I did pay for the wars so pls ban me too if you take action against sorted.
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:21:00 -
[13]
Originally by: Slave 775
I did pay for the wars so pls ban me too if you take action against sorted.
NO I'M SPARTICUS
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shuckstar
Gallente
Order of New Blood
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:24:00 -
[14]
LOL Good luck to all involved 
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Kcel Chim
Caldari
Arcane Technologies
The Five
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:24:00 -
[15]
ull have mail soon.
Was a silly move and ure not the first to try this nor the most original.
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:29:00 -
[16]
Originally by: Kcel Chim
ull have mail soon.
Was a silly move and ure not the first to try this nor the most original.
wow - ur right, but it was an allaince member wanting info update on our private forums. You must be phsyic.
Wouldnt they just Remove the wars ?
- you cant dec noob corps, they have the power to change.....
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:31:00 -
[17]
Nice move.
CCP started it.
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kill0rbunny
Alpha-Hirogen
The Pentagram
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:34:00 -
[18]
I lol'ed
Pew Pew!
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Dave White
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:37:00 -
[19]
I'll camp the entrance to Jove space 23/7 for this one
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Mr Abbadon
Svea Rike
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:52:00 -
[20]
*snip* Please do not discuss moderator actions on the forums. Instead, please email any concerns you may have to [email protected]. Thanks, -Elmo Pug ([email protected])
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OozoO
Caldari
Omega Enterprises
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:53:00 -
[21]
it was the reply of all replies - and I didnt even receive a warning 
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DJTheBaron
Caldari
FATAL REVELATIONS
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:55:00 -
[22]
Last i checked you couldnt lock the polaris class of ship.
Smartboming isnt very effective either, 99.9% resistances arent fair :(.
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 20:55:00 -
[23]
Originally by: OozoO
it was the reply of all replies - and I didnt even receive a warning
lol -i'll remember it
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Seyah Remmus
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:00:00 -
[24]
Yarr this is ace.
Even though we'll never see them.
And no, its not bannable. At least not ISD, you can kill them normally(we bumepd into them in pf-346 in a corp i was in a year or so ago, and killed them)so its not really different.
Nice thought anyway. Lets go out with a bang
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Turin
Caldari
RONA Deepspace
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:00:00 -
[25]
*snip* Do not troll. -Elmo Pug
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Nidia Masters
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:06:00 -
[26]
I'm for the wardeccing changes too. Privateers doing what they do, while original, is not what eve was supposed to be about in empire with the griefing and mass wars.
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:08:00 -
[27]
Originally by: Nidia Masters
I'm for the wardeccing changes too. Privateers doing what they do, while original, is not what eve was supposed to be about in empire with the griefing and mass wars.
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
Griefing should be restricted to 0.0? I hope they bring it. - even if we dont take a sinlge one down it will be fun.
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boogaboob
Caldari
Wraiths Reborn
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:08:00 -
[28]
Originally by: Nidia Masters
I'm for the wardeccing changes too. Privateers doing what they do, while original, is not what eve was supposed to be about in empire with the griefing and mass wars.
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
I wouldn't call what we do 'griefing' tbh. We see WTs, we shoot WTs. Oh noes, they were in empire, it's not fair, GRIEFERS OMGZORZ!!!11
Srsly though, yes, I hope that too. 
Signatures done by me! Evemail me! Anyone? No? Aww...
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Aritcio
Amarr
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:10:00 -
[29]
There should be a limit to War dec not just charges!! like 5!
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Slave 775
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:19:00 -
[30]
Originally by: Nidia Masters
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
PRIVATEERS! READY YOUR BREAKFAST AND EAT HEARTY, FOR TONIGHT WE DINE IN WOW!
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Mephistos
Oblivion's Gate
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:26:00 -
[31]
I for one hope the devs start hunting us, will be kinda fun :)
People that whine about griefing... there's a whole hell of a lot more griefing that comes from sitting on the jump into 0.0 than what we do in Privateers. People seem to think we just sit on major stations and wait for lag to kill our opponents for us, and while I'm sure some members do that, most of what we do involves small skirmishes against targets that are hunting us because they, like us, WANT a fight.
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Naesse
The Kennels
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:31:00 -
[32]
X for gang.
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Mistress Suffering
Einherjar Rising
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Posted - 2007.04.18 21:39:00 -
[33]
I sure hope CCP doesn't undock at Jita 4-4 now!
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Mirirar
Solstice Systems Development Concourse
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:02:00 -
[34]
Originally by: Sorted
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
You know, I remember back in FE when Krullz (? or was it Persh?) was drunk one night and war dec'd ISD... back when you still could.
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Valandril
Caldari
Resurrection
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:16:00 -
[35]
Originally by: Naesse
X for gang.
x
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V4MPIRELLA
ANATOLIA WOLF
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:35:00 -
[36]
have fun
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Stamm
Amarr
Three Holdings
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:37:00 -
[37]
I hope Privateers realise that it was fun while it lasted, it added a bit of spice to the game, but wasn't really sustainable from a gameplay point of view. That the changes announced are reasonable.
But more importantly that Privateers have left a mark on Eve that will not be forgotten, nothing lasts forever.
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:43:00 -
[38]
Originally by: Mirirar
Originally by: Sorted
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
You know, I remember back in FE when Krullz (? or was it Persh?) was drunk one night and war dec'd ISD... back when you still could.
You still can - its our second war with them - check our war lists tomorrow for confirmation.. you know how to do that in game ? yarr??
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Thomdril Merrilin
Defile.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:52:00 -
[39]
Its been fun while it lasted.
Originally by: Slave 775
PRIVATEERS! READY YOUR BREAKFAST AND EAT HEARTY, FOR TONIGHT WE DINE IN WOW!
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Sacul
Wreckless Abandon
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:56:00 -
[40]
bahahahhahahahhahah comedy gold....if only they didnt fly polaris ships.....wardec eve-radio aswell :))
Best privateers thread ever!!
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Deitre Cibrus
Defile.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 22:59:00 -
[41]
Originally by: Slave 775
Originally by: Nidia Masters
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
PRIVATEERS! READY YOUR BREAKFAST AND EAT HEARTY, FOR TONIGHT WE DINE IN WOW!
ROFL
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Originally by: Santiago Cortes
Please don't derail your own thread.
What is this sig missing?
Pretty colours? -Conuion
Not true! Has plenty -Deitre
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Audri Fisher
Caldari
VentureCorp
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.18 23:43:00 -
[42]
Positively EPIC.
I am glad Privateers ended up taking this in stride, with humor, rather than bitterness.
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M3ta
Amarr
Giants in the Playground
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.18 23:55:00 -
[43]
Indeed, the aim has -ALWAYS- been... fun.
Pure fun. Not lag whines, not politics, just fun.
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Ragornok
Multiversal Enterprise Inc.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:01:00 -
[44]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
3 things.
1.) I've heard that Amazon.com has a sale on "Sense of Humor", I suggest you buy one.
2.) What's the worst they can do, come down with a massive nerf that kills off the entire concept of the Privateers? Oh yeah, they already DID destroy us.
3.) If we're not going to be able to fight wars, we might as well not fight BIG wars!
Yarrrrrrrrrr....
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Wayward Hooligan
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:01:00 -
[45]
Originally by: Madmartigan
If ever we would fly with Privateer¦s, that¦s the occasion............lol..........how fun woulnd¦t it be to fight dev¦s and gm¦s :)
Mad
Come to Delve/Fountain and shoot BoB.
I think I have seen a number of you guys around i3q- ratting. Just need to start shooting.
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Rusty 123
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:07:00 -
[46]
Nah they coulnt possibly fight bob....bob know how to pvp and they are used to just shooting noobs :D
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Flapp
Dog Tags
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:07:00 -
[47]
A sour ending of a fresh idea.
I would have preferred to see the true ending of this drama, when after the great southern war ended in a couple of months alliances would deploy hunter/killer groups, finally able of diverting resources to fight Privateers.
But alas, all things come to an end, and in my opinion Privateers achieved a lot of goals set by themselves.
They disrupted corp and alliance operations, causing uncertainess and instilling fear upon those forced to PvP for the very first time.
Ah well, the loot was not too bad either for them.
Isn't it interesting Privateers did what CCP is praying for years now, to engage more players into PvP?
As for this character, Flapp paid 50m to Privateers to declare war upon him for a week.
Flapp was not there for kills, but instead to just try to get a grip of what all the fuzz was about.
Flapp discovered systems full of Privateers unwilling to engage, docked at stations.
He noticed gate camps so uncoordinated any competent friggie could blow them up.
And he found the true power behind Privateers: Quite some veteran capsuleers roaming solo, you know this type of guy: Unsatisfied with Eve.
Those guys are what made Privateers dangerous.
I estimate more than 50% of them to die once Privateers is no more (as in cancelling accounts).
Privs did it, no matter what.
I do worry about the survivors though.
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Leilani Solaris
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:12:00 -
[48]
Awesome
Outbreak Killboard |
Leonardo Sabrioski
Caldari
Ore Mongers
R0ADKILL
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Posted - 2007.04.19 00:48:00 -
[49]
**Applauds**
Glad Privateers would rather go out with a bang.
X for Gang
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Ducimus Daimon
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:12:00 -
[50]
I'm actually amazed CCP did this, I'm sure plenty of people have gotten a 2nd account to haul and do other empire crap without having to worry bout getting ganked. CCP just cut a bit of their income now.
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:27:00 -
[51]
Originally by: Rusty 123
Nah they coulnt possibly fight bob....bob know how to pvp and they are used to just shooting noobs :D
Typical alt post...
I am am no Privateer fan, ..but
Have you fought any of them? They have some seriously good 2004 vets, and I have had a few memorable gang fights with them. Those Rightous Choir boy guys for example, dam skilled pvp'rs (yes I know they left  )
We all know a minority of them like to shoot undocking targets in Jita, but if you think they are all fools..then I suggest you go fight them and find out for real
btw..glad to see Privateers are finding humour in this now, you guys will be just fine
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Tisanta
Amarr
The Collective
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:32:00 -
[52]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
keyword in there is playable, good thing for privateers then haha
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Seyah Remmus
Gallente
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:33:00 -
[53]
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
They have some seriously good 2004 vets, and I have had a few memorable gang fights with them.
*cough* not just the '04 players *cough*
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Flinx Evenstar
Minmatar
Momentum.
Dusk and Dawn
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Posted - 2007.04.19 01:36:00 -
[54]
Originally by: Seyah Remmus
Originally by: Flinx Evenstar
They have some seriously good 2004 vets, and I have had a few memorable gang fights with them.
*cough* not just the '04 players *cough*
Granted
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.19 05:01:00 -
[55]
in for Jove ships in empire 
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SSgt Sniper
Gallente
Dreamscape
Sparta Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 05:38:00 -
[56]
Originally by: Slave 775
Originally by: Nidia Masters
I for one hope the Devs, GMs and ISD arrive to assault you horrifically in Jita with Eidolons.
PRIVATEERS! READY YOUR BREAKFAST AND EAT HEARTY, FOR TONIGHT WE DINE IN WOW!
For this legendary comment, and this alone, they should have the swingers to show up and fight you in Jita at least once.
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Originally by: Joshua Foiritain
These days the biggest/most active threat in Fountain is the Sparta Alliance.
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Drasked
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.19 06:24:00 -
[57]
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Slave 775
I did pay for the wars so pls ban me too if you take action against sorted.
NO I'M SPARTICUS
This made all the people on my work floor look funny at me 
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INZi
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 06:26:00 -
[58]
lol ace!
hope they have a sense of humour. wonderfull
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Dave White
The Kennels
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Posted - 2007.04.19 06:52:00 -
[59]
Originally by: Ragornok
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
3 things.
1.) I've heard that Amazon.com has a sale on "Sense of Humor", I suggest you buy one.
Something like this?
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Commander Morgoth
Caldari
Hammerfall Industries
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:08:00 -
[60]
CCP, please nerf privateers.
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Steakkbone
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:31:00 -
[61]
The jita loot vultures will be all over this one. Think about it, without us a species will go extinct
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Morpheus Dreadnor
Minmatar
Republic Military School
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:50:00 -
[62]
i once was in a corp who decced GM corp. all we got was a message stating that if we did not withdraw the war they would ban our ases.. but gl if u actually get a war on em.
omg
OMFG did u just see a u.f.o
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Den enjen
Caldari
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2007.04.19 07:53:00 -
[63]
My bet is that you Privateers will find a way around the new war dec system an still can pop targets
I have to admit, i hate to run into one of you guy's. But the war dec makes it al little more fun when i'm mining a belt or running a mission.
-=Red Dwarf Mining Corparation=- |
SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 08:16:00 -
[64]
it aint over till the fat lady sings...
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Drasked
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.19 08:41:00 -
[65]
Stop deccing noob corps!!!!one!11
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R3dSh1ft
Caldari
FIRMA
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:01:00 -
[66]
funny!
the fact is your wars arent' 'proper' wars
they are just declared to turn high sec into 0.0
get over yourselves that CCP consider you important enough to change the rules for you.
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Laythun
Black Lance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:09:00 -
[67]
Originally by: Lunas Feelgood
Declaring war on GM corp, CCP corp or any els doing there job to keep EVE playeble is a banneble offence my dear..
I
Na...we done it once, the wars will never start, and they may warn you..
Black Lance Brother
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:18:00 -
[68]
\/\/e \/\/ill P\/\/nZOr U!!
gah only meesin i dont even have a ship , but why the war against ISD we are only a group of vols that help out the community?
just think of the Kittens! community !
- Thanks Hutch.
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Kastar
Chronodynamics
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:19:00 -
[69]
Come to think of it... This would be a nice opportunity for the folks in charge to make a bit of a playerdriven event out of it.
Many people would sign to see a small Jove fleet putting an end to a threat that is endangering the integrity of concord and empire space, or something similar.
They could integrate this in the backstory.
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Xtreem
Gallente
Fire Mandrill
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:30:00 -
[70]
Originally by: Kastar
Many people would sign to see a small Jove fleet putting an end to a threat that is endangering the integrity of concord and empire space, or something similar.
They could integrate this in the backstory.
more liek we help the jove out from there misery of there plight, and just think of us with nice jove lootz :)
Privateers, will rise, and trust me, we will be worse, just becuase we can be
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Drasked
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:34:00 -
[71]
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
\/\/e \/\/ill P\/\/nZOr U!!
gah only meesin i dont even have a ship , but why the war against ISD we are only a group of vols that help out the community?
just think of the Kittens! community !
Everyone knows you are allied to CCP
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Torm Ilmater
No Quarter.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:39:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Naesse
X for gang.
X
What Privateers were doing was more fun and interesting than 90% of the lagtastic, POS warfare now. Wish CCP would realize that.
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steveid
Haiduken Industries
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Posted - 2007.04.19 09:47:00 -
[73]
IMO privateers turned empire into old 0.0, before capitals came to be. Random camps, everyone watching local and nobody using autopilot unless they wanted a trip to their clone station. This wont end with the nerf but it will become only for the main alliances and personally i think thats sad.
The privateers were and are an educating experiance for some and i would imagine a kick up the backside to the players that most alliances have that hug empire like their mommy's leg.
Personally I dont like 0.0 pvp anymore do to its capital heavy, lagtastic nature where pvp MATTERS a lot now, instead of chucking a few ships together for some fun, and for that reason the privateers even though i was never a member will always have a place for me.
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:11:00 -
[74]
Best response ever :)
Here's hoping that the Devs hop into some Jovian ships (not the Polaris ones that you can't lock, the full on Jovian ones that you can lock) and bring the fight :)
I fought one of those Jovian battleships on Sisi once, they're pretty awesome.
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Callthetruth
Caldari
Logical Logtistics
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:24:00 -
[75]
i can see privateers simply splitting into 2 and carrying on might mean they need to recruit mroe dissasisfied PVPers from lwo sec and 0.0 wanting something different but with player growth numbers this wont be hard
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 10:40:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Kastar
Come to think of it... This would be a nice opportunity for the folks in charge to make a bit of a playerdriven event out of it.
Many people would sign to see a small Jove fleet putting an end to a threat that is endangering the integrity of concord and empire space, or something similar.
They could integrate this in the backstory.
Good thinking --- it would get alot of whining from those excluded though - so I dont think it will happen.
If they "bring it" - they could make us all (privateers) targets for everyone (in a can flag kind of way) - anyone take take a shot - but concord protection would still happen if we took the first shot -
How much of a white knuckle ride would that week be for us eh ? lol..neutrals with passive targeter whiping us left right and centre and aiding the Jov BS fleets....
It would be one hell of a week -
whats the score CCP - gonna make an even out of it?
War starts in tonight! .. Yarrr
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Shadow Lightbringer
Association Of United Bastards
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:03:00 -
[77]
Originally by: Sorted
Originally by: Kastar
Come to think of it... This would be a nice opportunity for the folks in charge to make a bit of a playerdriven event out of it.
Many people would sign to see a small Jove fleet putting an end to a threat that is endangering the integrity of concord and empire space, or something similar.
They could integrate this in the backstory.
Good thinking --- it would get alot of whining from those excluded though - so I dont think it will happen.
If they "bring it" - they could make us all (privateers) targets for everyone (in a can flag kind of way) - anyone take take a shot - but concord protection would still happen if we took the first shot -
How much of a white knuckle ride would that week be for us eh ? lol..neutrals with passive targeter whiping us left right and centre and aiding the Jov BS fleets....
It would be one hell of a week -
whats the score CCP - gonna make an even out of it?
War starts in tonight! .. Yarrr
I fully endorse this idea and can only hope the last days of the Privateer Alliance as we currently know it will end with an excessive amount of death and explosions. YARRRR!!
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Tom Gunn
Caldari
North Eastern Swat
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:07:00 -
[78]
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
funny!
get over yourselves that CCP consider you important enough to change the rules for you.
Hate to be the one to tell you, but CCP are changing the rules just because of them. You might not agree with what they are doing, but to try and play down the effect privateers are having on eve is just ignorant. Go read the Nth thread posted about them all over the forums in the last week.
History will decide what kind of bragging rights that will give them, but given the talk about corps that have been solely responsible for singlehandedly bringing about game changes such as Moo etc, privateers already won.
Kudos Privs & Cya on the battlefield,
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yarrmarr
Beyond Divinity Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:17:00 -
[79]
BRING IT CCP! at least let us leave EvE as it is with a bang.
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Alcrista Somez
Amarr
The Phoenix Rising
Lotka Volterra
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:51:00 -
[80]
Edited by: Alcrista Somez on 19/04/2007 11:50:47
Edited by: Alcrista Somez on 19/04/2007 11:48:45
Privateers... great posts.
I hated you. But if you found a way to wardec that group responisble for the god aweful "news" that they stick on the login screens and not get banned, Id pay for it myself. And never say a bad word about you again.
edit: Hate is relative, you see.
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hango
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:56:00 -
[81]
Quote:
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
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Raivi
Explosion Matrix
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Posted - 2007.04.19 11:59:00 -
[82]
Originally by: hango
Quote:
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
I'm blind! Oh god the horror! The horror!
Explosion Matrix: Nostrum Nomen est Ridiculum |
Troy Knight
54th Knights Templar
X-PACT
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:03:00 -
[83]
Originally by: hango
Quote:
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
ROFL!!
Lovely, good luck Privateers!
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Saladin
Minmatar
Eternity INC.
Mercenary Coalition
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:12:00 -
[84]
Its actually quite amazing to see ISD have a sense of humor about this. A few years ago when I was the CEO of Spectre Knights, I war dec'd ISD in a PR move meant to highlight the plight of The Reclaimer and the unjust gag order (e.g. forum ban) imposed on him. All I got was an angry eve mail from Kieron warning me!
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Stamm
Amarr
Three Holdings
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:21:00 -
[85]
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
\/\/e \/\/ill P\/\/nZOr U!!
gah only meesin i dont even have a ship , but why the war against ISD we are only a group of vols that help out the community?
just think of the Kittens! community !
Ah, I see it. So you pull out the "innocent" card, and all the while you're hiring the MC (I have chatlogs).
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Teron D'Amun
Eve University
Ivy League
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Posted - 2007.04.19 12:59:00 -
[86]
good luck with that war privs and send in bible dave and oldgiffer first, they don't seem to have any fear of losing t2 ships and fits over and over again
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.19 13:30:00 -
[87]
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
the fact is your wars arent' 'proper' wars
Does 'proper' wars go together with 'real pvp'? I want to make sure I don't irritate any 'real' alliance people by not participating in 'real' pvp in a 'proper' war.
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Dr Cron
Northern Lights Number 5
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Posted - 2007.04.19 14:25:00 -
[88]
Edited by: Dr Cron on 19/04/2007 14:24:20
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
*snip* dont troll -Dr. Cron
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1st Kublai
YouWhat
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Posted - 2007.04.19 15:39:00 -
[89]
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
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Promon Delnai
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.19 16:25:00 -
[90]
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
I do believe you misunderstand privateers
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.19 16:33:00 -
[91]
Originally by: Aille Pluthrak
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
the fact is your wars arent' 'proper' wars
Does 'proper' wars go together with 'real pvp'? I want to make sure I don't irritate any 'real' alliance people by not participating in 'real' pvp in a 'proper' war.
No, no.
You're required to form ranks and files, and when being shot at, you have to stand there and take the bullet. Not required but recommended are the flag carriers and drummer boys.
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Lithalnas
Amarr
Hadean Drive Yards
Archaean Cooperative
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Posted - 2007.04.20 01:14:00 -
[92]
So, when can we see the GMs DD'ing jita 4-4?
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Fenris'ar
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:05:00 -
[93]
AYE !
ex zombie here i say we bring ccp to theyr knees like Zombie did to Yulai years back ...
proud Privateer ccp you will get what you deserve sooner or later
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Merick Dronome
Quantum Industries
Prime Orbital Systems
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Posted - 2007.04.20 02:27:00 -
[94]
Originally by: Promon Delnai
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
I do believe you misunderstand privateers
No, it is you and most of Alliance P(who have an open killboard), who keep mistating the truth. Over 51% of Privateers kills are ships that do not have weapon hardpoints, or only 1 turret hardpoint. Get your facts straight, or STFU.
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Aille Pluthrak
Caldari
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 03:31:00 -
[95]
Originally by: Merick Dronome
Over 51% of Privateers kills are ships that do not have weapon hardpoints, or only 1 turret hardpoint, or only 1 turret hardpoint. Get your facts straight, or STFU.
Oh my god, you're right. Only 52% of my kills are warships. I feel so dirty and cheap. Whatever shell I do? My life in Eve is ruined.....Can you forgive me?.....No, I don't deserve your forgivness......I'll just be over here by myself kicking this cute little puppy.
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Jaffse HuntST
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 06:43:00 -
[96]
Originally by: Merick Dronome
Originally by: Promon Delnai
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
I do believe you misunderstand privateers
No, it is you and most of Alliance P(who have an open killboard), who keep mistating the truth. Over 51% of Privateers kills are ships that do not have weapon hardpoints, or only 1 turret hardpoint. Get your facts straight, or STFU.
As long as it has a star on it, it's a target. Velator or Falcon, we don't care. That's what Privateers are about. Targets. White stars on red square.
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DiuxDium
Loot
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:34:00 -
[97]
Edited by: DiuxDium on 20/04/2007 08:31:53
errr thread derail
Either way, irony at its finest. Way to go privs, my time in privs was probably some of the most fun i've had in eve. Shame ccp is turning eve into a carebears paradise.
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 08:40:00 -
[98]
Originally by: Merick Dronome
Originally by: Promon Delnai
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
I do believe you misunderstand privateers
No, it is you and most of Alliance P(who have an open killboard), who keep mistating the truth. Over 51% of Privateers kills are ships that do not have weapon hardpoints, or only 1 turret hardpoint. Get your facts straight, or STFU.
1. you have not done ur calculations right.
2. You would not shoot a badger that jumps into ur bubble in 0.0?
Tho shall give Life, for Life. |
Spawn Princess
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:32:00 -
[99]
Originally by: Merick Dronome
Originally by: Promon Delnai
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
I do believe you misunderstand privateers
No, it is you and most of Alliance P(who have an open killboard), who keep mistating the truth. Over 51% of Privateers kills are ships that do not have weapon hardpoints, or only 1 turret hardpoint. Get your facts straight, or STFU.
I'm quite sure the Nightmare, CNR, Rattlesnake transport ships i popped were totally defensless 
Don't be so angry, it wasnt personal, just business! haha
Yarr, bring on the Jove BS's i'll add that killmail to the rest :D
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Hazkr Rwzk
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:38:00 -
[100]
would't it be good if one day all the gms and ISD got a huge gang and just pwned privs
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Spawn Princess
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 10:44:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Hazkr Rwzk
would't it be good if one day all the gms and ISD got a huge gang and just pwned privs
Thats not very nice, just because rest of empire couldnt manage it you wish us wiped out by ships you can't lock
One thing though, wehn we pop them ships the loots ours GM's, that "banned if not in isd" crap doesnt apply when you lose it :D
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Slave 775
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:05:00 -
[102]
Edited by: Slave 775 on 20/04/2007 11:03:11
Since the war has started its time to tell CCP their terms of surrender to us.
Change the nerf to wardecs
we want dual wreck ownership (shoot the loot thief's)
and last but not least:
Originally by: hango
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
We want to see Oveur doing this dance at the next Fanfest.
And no we wont discuss about Oveur`s part.
If you don't surrender we will sell your frozen body's on the market to finance our wars.
Im sure we will fetch a nice price for the body's .
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BAndOfDevs
Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:14:00 -
[103]
nice post sorted :)
While i do not allways agree with your tactics i will agree with this one.
Tally ho and good luck
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Speedie Tappaja
Minmatar
Space Perverts and Forum Warriors United
Cult of War
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:16:00 -
[104]
nice one =) going out with style :P kill eidolon.
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Raneru
Darwin With Attitude
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:27:00 -
[105]
If you guys end up having a huge fleet fight against the devs / ISD in empire can I join you guys for 24 hours?
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Znaei
Thundercats
RAZOR Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:29:00 -
[106]
It doesnt matter if its not allowed to decc these corps. Their petitions will take atleast 2 weeks to get looked at. By that time, privs will get 2 weeks of fun.
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Mar5hy
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:45:00 -
[107]
Funny sayings you can come across at times like these...
All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident ~ Schopenhauer
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Possesive
Caldari
GALAXIAN
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:48:00 -
[108]
Originally by: Raneru
If you guys end up having a huge fleet fight against the devs / ISD in empire can I join you guys for 24 hours?
Save me a place aswell.
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Xeaon
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.04.20 11:55:00 -
[109]
CCP is too carebear to fight back now anyway, I guess you'll win by default
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Originally by: Righteous Fury
Eve is not about the old preying on the new, its about the smart preying on the utterly incompetent.
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Syntosk
Amarr
Ticon Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:09:00 -
[110]
Originally by: Hazkr Rwzk
would't it be good if one day all the gms and ISD got a huge gang and just pwned privs
They dont need that, they already pwned privs with a far more powerful weapon... the nerfbat tech2
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Mar5hy
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:32:00 -
[111]
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Hazkr Rwzk
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:35:00 -
[112]
Originally by: Spawn Princess
Originally by: Hazkr Rwzk
would't it be good if one day all the gms and ISD got a huge gang and just pwned privs
Thats not very nice, just because rest of empire couldnt manage it you wish us wiped out by ships you can't lock
One thing though, wehn we pop them ships the loots ours GM's, that "banned if not in isd" crap doesnt apply when you lose it :D
i didnt mean in a anti priv way i ment as in a huge priv V devs,gms,ISD just think it would be a really cool fight.
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Koddo
Defile.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 12:44:00 -
[113]
Originally by: Tom Gunn
Originally by: R3dSh1ft
funny!
get over yourselves that CCP consider you important enough to change the rules for you.
Hate to be the one to tell you, but CCP are changing the rules just because of them. You might not agree with what they are doing, but to try and play down the effect privateers are having on eve is just ignorant. Go read the Nth thread posted about them all over the forums in the last week.
History will decide what kind of bragging rights that will give them, but given the talk about corps that have been solely responsible for singlehandedly bringing about game changes such as Moo etc, privateers already won.
Kudos Privs & Cya on the battlefield,
QFT.
Originally by: Flapp
A sour ending of a fresh idea.
...And he found the true power behind Privateers: Quite some veteran capsuleers roaming solo, you know this type of guy: Unsatisfied with Eve.
Those guys are what made Privateers dangerous.
I estimate more than 50% of them to die once Privateers is no more (as in cancelling accounts).
Privs did it, no matter what.
I do worry about the survivors though.
QFT. Not sure what the future holds for us, but to all who cried for the nerf I ask this: Where do you think 600 Privateer refugees will go, now that empire is closed? Could be a system near you... Yarr, beeches.
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Spawn Princess
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 13:30:00 -
[114]
Should have left all them pirates in hi sec chasing war targets, now they're only gonna cry when they cant do their lvl5 missions without getting ganked by -10 pirates lol.
Once no targets most of us will go back to where we came from, the place you're all gonna want to be when they release them missions.
Silver cloud and all that, the futures bright, the futures red and flashing
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Jim Lovell
Gallente
Darkblade Technologies
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.20 13:46:00 -
[115]
bunch of empire hugging nOObs
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vache
Incognito Inc
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Posted - 2007.04.20 14:49:00 -
[116]
Originally by: hango
Quote:
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
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Adaris
Dark and Light inc.
D-L
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Posted - 2007.04.20 15:02:00 -
[117]
lmao here you go have my cookie
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=euZ0j7vtKEQ
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GHOSTMINER TOM
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Posted - 2007.04.20 15:19:00 -
[118]
Great Post I realize was a fun time for Privateers and alowed some smaller corps a measure of response to bully corps by paying Privateers to war dec them. However I think by going too far with this idea and randomly War decing hundreds of corps at once,you guys have now ended up punishing all of eve with this huge war dec cost increase. If you would have toned down war decs a little this nerf would not have come about.
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kublai
Caldari Provisions
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Posted - 2007.04.20 15:39:00 -
[119]
Originally by: 1st Kublai
Privateers
Stop shooting at newbies and Transport Ships.
Come to 0.0 Space and you'll don't need a war dec.
We're waiting for you.
Your name seems familiar, yet you're an idiot o_O
I guess this post will be deleted as i'm looking for a new corp at the moment, but I felt I hadto say something -_-
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Luthien Firefoot
Synergy.
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.04.20 15:44:00 -
[120]
Originally by: Madmartigan
If ever we would fly with Privateer¦s, that¦s the occasion............lol..........how fun woulnd¦t it be to fight dev¦s and gm¦s :)
Mad
It would be very frustrating...
I imagine......
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blkmajik
ZiTek
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:05:00 -
[121]
Edited by: blkmajik on 20/04/2007 17:02:03
Nothing in eve is static. I find this entire situation humorously ironic. Once upon a time, players who did the industry thing for any sizable entity complained about the privateers' global unmotivated wardecs, and this was always met with dozens of privateers calling them whiners and telling them to evolve. What goes around, comes around, kids. Time to evolve.
your not a singled-out victim. This isn't the first time something has been adjusted for the greater good at the cost of short term gain for some. Here are some examples:
1) Warp to zero & removing instas. This was supposed to 'kill PVP' if I recall. All the gankers and pirates HATED the idea of it! Has ganking stopped? No, Players evolved.
2) Killing the t2 lotto. All these players who invested in it for years and years and go nothing. What a shame. Have people given up on R&D? No, players evolved.
3) WCS nerfing. This was supposed to break EVERYTHING. Mass gankings, broken consentual PVP, halting all industry, and forcing everyone to be a pirate. Has that happened? Again, players evolved.
We could go on all day....
Most Privateers say they are not about easy ganks, and thats just BS. If that were true, and you really just wanted to PVP, you would go to lowsec or 0.0. Why don't you? Because people are ready for you there. Its ALL about easy ganks and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
But Privateers is still one of the largest Alliances in the game right now. No use dieing over this. Evolve. Do what other corps have to do: organize, set objectives, work together, do anything. Why not go Merc? Why not take a stab at some space? Why not live on the universal fringes of lowec or NPC 0.0 and pirate your hearts out? try to control all the 0.0/empire entry points or something. Otherwise, its just a band of obsolete degenerates.
if you just want to shoot stuff, go play counterstrike. if you want to play eve, stop whining and evolve like everyone else.
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DALE0404
Blue Star Brotherhood
Interstellar Starbase Syndicate
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:35:00 -
[122]
I have been ganked a few times by Privs but all the time they kept saying its a game and always a 'gf' popped up in local.
I wish you all the best in whatever happens/you decide to do next. G
GMS/Devs, grant these fine people their wish and come out and fight!!
Blue Star Brotherhood
ISS Management |
Feynmen
Open Concepts
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:37:00 -
[123]
Originally by: blkmajik
Edited by: blkmajik on 20/04/2007 17:02:03
Nothing in eve is static. I find this entire situation humorously ironic. Once upon a time, players who did the industry thing for any sizable entity complained about the privateers' global unmotivated wardecs, and this was always met with dozens of privateers calling them whiners and telling them to evolve. What goes around, comes around, kids. Time to evolve.
your not a singled-out victim. This isn't the first time something has been adjusted for the greater good at the cost of short term gain for some. Here are some examples:
1) Warp to zero & removing instas. This was supposed to 'kill PVP' if I recall. All the gankers and pirates HATED the idea of it! Has ganking stopped? No, Players evolved.
2) Killing the t2 lotto. All these players who invested in it for years and years and go nothing. What a shame. Have people given up on R&D? No, players evolved.
3) WCS nerfing. This was supposed to break EVERYTHING. Mass gankings, broken consentual PVP, halting all industry, and forcing everyone to be a pirate. Has that happened? Again, players evolved.
We could go on all day....
Most Privateers say they are not about easy ganks, and thats just BS. If that were true, and you really just wanted to PVP, you would go to lowsec or 0.0. Why don't you? Because people are ready for you there. Its ALL about easy ganks and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
But Privateers is still one of the largest Alliances in the game right now. No use dieing over this. Evolve. Do what other corps have to do: organize, set objectives, work together, do anything. Why not go Merc? Why not take a stab at some space? Why not live on the universal fringes of lowec or NPC 0.0 and pirate your hearts out? try to control all the 0.0/empire entry points or something. Otherwise, its just a band of obsolete degenerates.
if you just want to shoot stuff, go play counterstrike. if you want to play eve, stop whining and evolve like everyone else.
Well put, im sure PA will find a way to adapt to this as well, despite all the whining.
"I don't think anyone really understands Quantum Mechanics."
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.20 17:48:00 -
[124]
Slacker Industries, Outbreak, Veto, Collective... all of them are pretty much PvP exclusive and don't blob. They run around low sec and 0.0 and fight. a lot.
They also get a ton of respect.
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Kruel
Beyond Divinity Inc
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:26:00 -
[125]
Carebears "adapt" by whining on the forums.
Well done guys.
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Spawn Princess
mUfFiN fAcToRy
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 18:43:00 -
[126]
Originally by: blkmajik
Edited by: blkmajik on 20/04/2007 17:02:03
Nothing in eve is static. I find this entire situation humorously ironic. Once upon a time, players who did the industry thing for any sizable entity complained about the privateers' global unmotivated wardecs, and this was always met with dozens of privateers calling them whiners and telling them to evolve. What goes around, comes around, kids. Time to evolve.
your not a singled-out victim. This isn't the first time something has been adjusted for the greater good at the cost of short term gain for some. Here are some examples:
1) Warp to zero & removing instas. This was supposed to 'kill PVP' if I recall. All the gankers and pirates HATED the idea of it! Has ganking stopped? No, Players evolved.
2) Killing the t2 lotto. All these players who invested in it for years and years and go nothing. What a shame. Have people given up on R&D? No, players evolved.
3) WCS nerfing. This was supposed to break EVERYTHING. Mass gankings, broken consentual PVP, halting all industry, and forcing everyone to be a pirate. Has that happened? Again, players evolved.
We could go on all day....
Most Privateers say they are not about easy ganks, and thats just BS. If that were true, and you really just wanted to PVP, you would go to lowsec or 0.0. Why don't you? Because people are ready for you there. Its ALL about easy ganks and anyone who says otherwise is a liar.
But Privateers is still one of the largest Alliances in the game right now. No use dieing over this. Evolve. Do what other corps have to do: organize, set objectives, work together, do anything. Why not go Merc? Why not take a stab at some space? Why not live on the universal fringes of lowec or NPC 0.0 and pirate your hearts out? try to control all the 0.0/empire entry points or something. Otherwise, its just a band of obsolete degenerates.
if you just want to shoot stuff, go play counterstrike. if you want to play eve, stop whining and evolve like everyone else.
I think you miss the point that most of PA has done that 0.0 pos shooting malarkey and got the t-shirt, most of us ratted our sec back to get in empire for these fights and we glad for something new. Hell its not as if we are full of noob players who don't have a clue and in honesty the alliance wasn't run as one. More a collection of corps who wanted targets to shoot at and we drawn on this common goal.
Now as i said before, all that will happen is we will descend back to low sec where you seem to think we have never been lol. We will continue as we did before and pop anything that moves, all that i hope is that the alliance stays together and gets new members. Put some sort of a divide between the 0.0 bored gate campers and pos shooters and the empire mummies leg huggers (sorry to steal you line).
That is what i would love to see, a fat band around empire which is OUR space and not giving and concessions to anyone to get through.
In honesty that would cause CCP more of a headache, how do you nerf that?
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Plaetean
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.20 19:03:00 -
[127]
Awesome response privateers, shame to see yet another nerf to pvp
RIP PA o7
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DarkSnipe
Red Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:23:00 -
[128]
Who are Privateers again?
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boogaboob
Caldari
Wraiths Reborn
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:38:00 -
[129]
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
Slacker Industries, Outbreak, Veto, Collective... all of them are pretty much PvP exclusive and don't blob. They run around low sec and 0.0 and fight. a lot.
They also get a ton of respect.
Good for them. Your point?
Signatures done by me! Evemail me! Anyone? No? Aww...
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Vincent Gaines
Avis de Captura
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:40:00 -
[130]
Originally by: boogaboob
Good for them. Your point?
The point is that crying about not wanting to blob or find targets in 0.0 or low sec is an excuse.. other corps have been raiding 0.0 for a long time with no problem.
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Alpine 69
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:42:00 -
[131]
'Posting in an epic thread
I wonder what will happen to you guys
But for now; YARRRRRRRRR
Your signature exceeds the maximum allowed filesize of 24000 bytes -Sahwoolo Etoophie ([email protected])
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boogaboob
Caldari
Wraiths Reborn
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.20 21:59:00 -
[132]
Edited by: boogaboob on 20/04/2007 21:56:50
Originally by: Vincent Gaines
The point is that crying about not wanting to blob or find targets in 0.0 or low sec is an excuse.. other corps have been raiding 0.0 for a long time with no problem.
I know the point you were trying to make. The point *I* was trying to make by asking such is that we don't especially care what those said corps do. Most of WERE in 0.0 or losec before PRVTR. We found empire more fun so we moved there.
and EDIT: I'd like to encourage ISD to bring a fleet of Jove ships to empire for us to shoot. Sure, we'll get slaughtered, but ti'll be fun, and make great fraps
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Oro Sarmasa
Umbra Congregatio
Interstellar Alcohol Conglomerate
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:07:00 -
[133]
Edited by: Oro Sarmasa on 20/04/2007 22:04:52
Edited by: Oro Sarmasa on 20/04/2007 22:04:07
Originally by: boogaboob
I know the point you were trying to make. The point *I* was trying to make by asking such is that we don't especially care what those said corps do. Most of WERE in 0.0 or losec before PRVTR. We found empire more fun so we moved there.
So in other words, you'd rather not be like competent, respected pirate corps and, to you, pwning haulers and t1 ships in empire is more fun, in a "pulling wings off insects and giggling" kind of way.
That's like a gangster wannabe loitering in a suburban parking lot and acting tough there, because if he was in a real ghetto he'd get his ass kicked every hour of every day
Well, anyway, the changes are coming. Adapt or die!
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titanstory
FRENCH NAVY
Tau Ceti Federation
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Posted - 2007.04.20 22:33:00 -
[134]
hahahahahaha finish the easy targets in secure space, finish the gank hauler squad, finish the spamming war dec on alliance mail.
and maybe FINISH PRIVATEER !
if you want to pvp, pvp in 0.0 space or low space.
Thanks a lot CCP for this patch.
yarr
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 00:48:00 -
[135]
I watched people adapt to the privateer alliance, use alts to shuttle stuff, protect their freighters with escorts, set traps up for us (which we always wondered into), create anti-privateer intel channels, work together to destroy us. Talk of creating an anti-privateer alliance sadly did not materialise. This was great stuff - this game was invogorating, evolving in front of your very eyes.
Then CCP bow to the whiners on the forums and wallop - nerfed. Nobody in game could do it - needed a gm to change a bit of code.
I think this is very sad.
CCP are rightfully proud of producing a game which, despite its many flaws (appauling lag/boring repetitive missions/ratting/thousands of bugs to name a few) provided players with the tool to acheive what they wanted.
Freedom was provided, what do you want to do with it?
The nerfing of the war dec system (which shows absolutly no attempt to be a 'balanced response') is, in my opinion, nothing more then a focused and targetted attempt to nerf the Privateer Alliance. The usuage of the letter 'P' in the example allaince given above was no coincidence.
The Privatter alliance made use of the tools you provided us with, and in response you take away the tools.
MORE power is now thrust into the hands of the Isk Rich Alliances who can now wardec themselves with alt corps and effectivly immunise themselves against any future empire war dec from anyone. Congrats CCP on that one.
On a positive note though, Ive had 6 months of the best fun ive ever had in this game. I was seriously considering quitting pre Privateers, and I know many many others would have to.
Ive flown with some cool peeps, Ive flown against some cool peeps... sometimes they liked fighting us so much they came and joined us the very next week :) In a particulaly interesting twist it went the other way to - former allies left and wardecced us (Im still gonna get you in my tristan JMclean *shakes fist*)
Ive seen the forums turn from an anti privateer flame-fest, to a 50/50 pro-against opinion.We becamed a issue in the greater 'bad guy/ good guy' debate - which will continue.
Our enemies have praised us, and stood up for us realising what we are about, and even many our our greates forum detractors have been gracious in their responses to the 'nerfing' which i personally apreciate.
We got a lot of good guys in the organisation, and were working hard to salvage this situation.
For once im - ignoring the prancing gloaters who demean themselves and sully this thread ;) Ive repeatd myself 500 times already about them, and its like banging your head against a bwick wall.
SKUNK
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Arakk
Caldari
VersaTech Interstellar Ltd.
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 01:50:00 -
[136]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Then CCP bow to the whiners on the forums and wallop - nerfed. Nobody in game could do it - needed a gm to change a bit of code.
I think this is very sad.
Incorrect, CCP bowed to their original intentions of the wardec system and pirating. MMO's change over time and need respective changes by the developers to maintain balance. Pirates were and are never supposed to be able to operate freely in high sec, privateers found a way around this intention. Theres a reason there are sec hits for pirating, theres a reason for concord, and a reason for gate and station defenses.
Privateers exploited the flaws in the wardec system. Something which had grown over time from a working and intended enforcement of what CCP INTENDED EMPIRE TO BE to a flaw, since you mentioned flaws.
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The Privatter alliance made use of the tools you provided us with, and in response you take away the tools.
Like all MMO's the design of the tools they provide us with are vulnerable to exploit, those very tools are not only for us to use, but more often than not to ensure the intentions of the game stay in tact as well. Since MMO's are always changing because of variations in subscribers, game money, whatever...sometimes these tools need to be changed respectively to account for them.
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For once im - ignoring the prancing gloaters who demean themselves and sully this thread ;) Ive repeatd myself 500 times already about them, and its like banging your head against a bwick wall.
And yet you and many dont seem to understand that maybe...just maybe that the wardec system, that a significant amount of the game is high sec, that gate/station defenses and concord exist for a reason. Instead you turn a blind eye to reason and convince yourselves that its about carebears, rather than admit that you were simply exploiting a tool that hadn't yet changed over the years to account for changes in the game.
As i understand them...and apparently ccp agrees
-wardecs are supposed to be temporary breeches of the safety of empire.
-players are supposed to take sec hits for killing non war targets in empire.
-gate guns are supposed to attack players that attack other players in their sight.
-concord is supposed to blow you to pieces if you attack players in high sec.
These were the intentions of the game since day 1. Somewhere along the line the possibility was realized that if enough people banded together they could bypass these intentions and enforcers of those intentions. CCP corrected it and now you point the finger at whiners and the like rather than take a rational look at how and why the game was designed the way it was.
Even you have realized this game (like all games) has flaws, unfortunately you cant seem to see that the wardec system was flawed as well and was reinforced to act as they had intended it to be. That is too expensive to dec tens of ALLIANCES, dozens of corps, indefinately.
And im sure it was fun, even though close to half of privateer kills were haulers. i like to pirate as well, it might not have a gun but its a rush for some reason killing a ship that cant hurt you while tanking gate guns hoping someone doesnt come in and pop you or steal the loot.
Maybe the problem here is you think the wardec system was originally designed to forever be perfect and that it was originally intended for an alliance to be capable of permanently wardeccing 30%+ of the playerbase, thus removing all the NPC defense content that is of empire from those players. If you think the way your alliance used the tool that is war declaration as CCP intended YEARS AGO...well maybe have a deeper look at things. Maybe then you'll realize they didnt change it because of QQ, it was changed because it was no longer working as ORIGINALLY INTENDED.
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Cyndal
Chicas Locas
Sylph Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 03:01:00 -
[137]
Originally by: Stamm
But more importantly that Privateers have left a mark on Eve that will not be forgotten, nothing lasts forever.
The kind of marks they leave will come out with a little bleach and hot water If you flush twice, the swirly ones they leave behind in the bowl go away too.
But if being remembered is what matters to them, they've indeed attained their goal (albeit as the skid marks in the panties of EVE). Whatever blows your hair back, I suppose. From the perspective of some, though, it's a more a case of 'good riddance' and an appropriate bug fix.
That is all. As you were.
He said I never listen to him ... (or something like that)
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 03:22:00 -
[138]
Edited by: Le Skunk on 21/04/2007 03:21:10
Edited by: Le Skunk on 21/04/2007 03:19:25
Originally by: Arakk
As i understand them...and apparently ccp agrees
-wardecs are supposed to be temporary breeches of the safety of empire.
-players are supposed to take sec hits for killing non war targets in empire.
-gate guns are supposed to attack players that attack other players in their sight.
-concord is supposed to blow you to pieces if you attack players in high sec.
These were the intentions of the game since day 1. Somewhere along the line the possibility was realized that if enough people banded together they could bypass these intentions and enforcers of those intentions. CCP corrected it and now you point the finger at whiners and the like rather than take a rational look at how and why the game was designed the way it was.
All of your above points are still easily achievable for the isk rich players. Just on a lesser scale. No clever fix has been thought up - just the most obvious one which solves nothing.
An alliance could permanetly wardec 5 alliances for relativly cheep for the next few years. That contradicts all 4 of your points that ccp supposedly 'agree' on. They dont agree at all, theve simply lowered the scale.
The carebaears must realise that they are still totally vunerable to a wardec. Just its gonna come from corps/alliance who will keep it running permanently and really concentrate their actions on you.
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Maybe then you'll realize they didnt change it because of QQ, it was changed because it was no longer working as ORIGINALLY INTENDED.
Even if we are to assume we were using the wardec systme as it wasnt indtended - CCP have said many times in the past they love the way players evolve things in this game out of things that were never intended. Escrow was a prime example. ITs still there to read in the non updated player guide (thell get round to it at some point)
Originally by: ccp
The Escrow system is used for 2 things: 1) Trading and 2) Item Exchange. You might find it odd that it is located under the mission category, but the fact is that the EVE community invented the use of the Escrow system for selling and exchanging items, as it was not the intended usage, showing how ingenious our users can be.
INGENIOUS
Thats the direct quote about someone making use of something in a way it wasnt intended to be.
We are a large group of players, having fun like this game hasnt ever provided for anyone recently, doing nothing like the excesses certain corps/alliance have recently been up to in regards to activly flouting the rules. And we got the nerf bat. Sure youll please a few carebears now, but it sets a precident for future trailblasers who are not happy with the mission runner/0.0 drone options this game has available.
With us you got what it said on the tin - 24 hours to run or put your dukes up - as were on the highways, veins sticking out of our necks. Compare this to scammers who make billions in a fashion which really could be called greifing (they would admit this themselves I know) Thats all fine and dandy.
Options were readily available to you to combat us - many took them - Extra respect to the alliances who stuck together and defended their haulers/swept the space lanes with their combat pilots, and didnt resort to carebear bleating on a bloody forum
SKUNK
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.21 03:58:00 -
[139]
did you guys figure out already how to lock Polaris frigates 
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Garia666
Amarr
T.H.U.G L.I.F.E
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Posted - 2007.04.21 08:46:00 -
[140]
CCP managed to spoill the game once again.
by this you can see that moaning actualy work.
The longer and the more people will spam the forum`s the more likely it will change.
Except for being amarr ofcourse.. ;)
Anyway my advise to the privateer alliance is to post and post about how you not agree with these changes and keep going at it untill you get what you want..
They will probably trow in an extra skill soon for declaring wars.
just like they do with everything..
->My Vids<- |
Lt Angus
Caldari
OctoberSnow Corp
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Posted - 2007.04.21 10:45:00 -
[141]
I love threads like this, easy to tell who plays the game and who reads about it
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Aritcio
Amarr
Dark Skyes
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:02:00 -
[142]
I say again! put a limit on war dec systems! upto 5. PA is a joke! Your reason are bullcrap. Just looking for easy ganks on haulers.
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Seph Res
PPN United
Against ALL Authorities
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:10:00 -
[143]
seems like now u have to mine veldspar for ur wardecs
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 11:19:00 -
[144]
Originally by: Aritcio
I say again! put a limit on war dec systems! upto 5. PA is a joke! Your reason are bullcrap. Just looking for easy ganks on haulers.
If that was the case we would get 100 pilots 6 bubbles and sit in 0.0 all day long murdering.
Learn More: Privateers Recruitment
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Tirg
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:02:00 -
[145]
I'm in your outposts, hiding from your doodz.....
forum rules
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n0thing
Northern Intelligence
Artificial Intelligence.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 13:27:00 -
[146]
Originally by: Plaetean
Awesome response privateers, shame to see yet another nerf to pvp
RIP PA o7
Certainly wouldnt call it a nerf. Once a pvp focused alliance or corporations dec half of industrial corps, its rather a one-way shootage. Deccing pvp alliance that are based in no-sec doesnt do much since they barely go out anyways
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Mar5hy
Feardotcom Inc.
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 14:17:00 -
[147]
Sig says it all...
"All truth passes through three stages. First, it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third, it is accepted as being self-evident" ~ Schopenhauer
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Mortuus
Minmatar
Oblivion's Gate
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 15:40:00 -
[148]
Edited by: Mortuus on 21/04/2007 15:39:14
Look at our killboards, no tell me all of our kills are haulers...thanks.
As to people saying we're a joke, or made no impact. We did enough you had to get us nerfed and couldn't handle us yourselves. Yaar
You want some of my love, come out and play.
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Bujie
Minmatar
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.21 16:00:00 -
[149]
Interezding indeed...
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.21 18:45:00 -
[150]
Originally by: Bujie
Interezding indeed...
NIce sig - the right mixture of deliberate slapshod and general lack of skill ftw
SKUNK
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Father Weebles
North Face Force
Anarchy Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.21 19:01:00 -
[151]
Originally by: Aritcio
I say again! put a limit on war dec systems! upto 5. PA is a joke! Your reason are bullcrap. Just looking for easy ganks on haulers.
Not necessarily. There wasn't anything I wanted more than a clean even fight but events usually followed this path: Lone travelers, or huge alliance gank squads.
"Welcome to EVE, where inflation is out of control."
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Altrex Stoppel
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.04.21 21:21:00 -
[152]
Edited by: Altrex Stoppel on 21/04/2007 21:17:52
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
\/\/e \/\/ill P\/\/nZOr U!!
gah only meesin i dont even have a ship , but why the war against ISD we are only a group of vols that help out the community?
just think of the Kittens! community !
Cause you're a CCP pet.
Originally by: ISD Mod-hango (talking about SNOWY)
It's a pirate corp, deployed near the amarr gates.
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Riven Nightwing
Regalis Industria Scientia Entreprendre
Axiom Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.24 01:15:00 -
[153]
Edited by: Riven Nightwing on 24/04/2007 01:12:59
Originally by: hango
Quote:
2007.04.18 20:12
Privateer Alliance has declared war on Interstellar Services Department.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
YOU ARE SO GOING DOWN. I've been training Uhura's Fan Dance to level five and will distract all of your pilots!
Gah!!!... ehrmmm...!!
I SO need to take a break from EVE!
Sounds like now is a good time. Naked Devs/ISD... just when you thought the lag was the only killer...
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NATMav
F.R.E.E. Explorer
EVE Animal Control
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Posted - 2007.04.24 02:21:00 -
[154]
2007.04.24 00:02
Privateer Alliance has declared war on EVE Animal Control.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Woot!
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Verite Rendition
Caldari
AUS Corporation
CORE.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 02:24:00 -
[155]
Originally by: NATMav
2007.04.24 00:02
Privateer Alliance has declared war on EVE Animal Control.
After 24 hours fighting can legally occur between those involved.
Woot!
You do realize who paid for that one, right?
What are the current odds on the Privateers reaching their 200 war goal by patch-time, anyhow?
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mishkof
Caldari
Emerald Empire
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Posted - 2007.04.24 02:44:00 -
[156]
Edited by: mishkof on 24/04/2007 02:44:13
Dont care.
It is pretty cool to see a group of players being the reason that a devolpement team felt their actions were enough to nerf their own game; especially when it isnt through whining on the forums.
Its your world I just live in it.
I never had the pleasure of dealing with the privateers, of course I dont think I would ever have to since my main doesnt run missions.
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Nomakai Delateriel
Amarr
A Better Future
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Posted - 2007.04.24 03:02:00 -
[157]
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
did you guys figure out already how to lock Polaris frigates
Or maybe just load up on FoFs and Smartbombs
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Dylan Rhade
Caldari
UK Corp
FATAL Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 03:55:00 -
[158]
I have been popped by Privateers a couple of times, and in all those times, it was never done without taste, unlike the coalition joke of "coathangers" at JV1V, seems like they dont like being ganked in high sec when they dont have blobs to defend them, privateers turned empire from an old lady's tea room complete with cosseted covers, to a starbucks with mines on the floor.
I may not personally like them, but for them to turn around to the CCP corps, and war dec them, shows that they arent the mindless gankers people seemed to have witnessed in a few.
Privateers were war decced with my alliance, so i say good on them, finding humour in a nerf that threatens their way of life is one of the most respectable things they have ever done, they liven empire up, all of these people who sit in empire saying " ive never left empire, i dont want to, i'm fine here."
The mountain came to Mohammad, the mountain was called Privateers.
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Danari
Amarr
Exanimo Inc
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:29:00 -
[159]
Originally by: Kruel
Carebears "adapt" by whining on the forums.
Well done guys.
qft
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Bigeasy
Caldari
Shadow Of The Light
R i s e
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:43:00 -
[160]
The privs grow a pair and come out to 0.0
Let them hate, so long as they fear-Caligula |
Stamm
Amarr
Three Holdings
Rule of Three
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Posted - 2007.04.24 04:59:00 -
[161]
Are they being allowed to keep the cheap wars past renwing time after the patch, or are they going to have to pay the high costs when it comes to re-payment time?
Galaxian Recruitment Info |
Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 05:46:00 -
[162]
Originally by: Stamm
Are they being allowed to keep the cheap wars past renwing time after the patch, or are they going to have to pay the high costs when it comes to re-payment time?
Nope - No more decs after the patch. After teh weeks wars we are back to running 5 or 6 wars total a week.
SKUNK
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Filthy Pierre
Gallente
Laughing Fox Enterprises
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Posted - 2007.04.24 07:59:00 -
[163]
WhenI was in a 0.0 corp and alliance the Privs decced us. Killed me a couple of times, not for want of my trying to kill one or two of them whenever I go the chance. And I'm just a lowly miner and support type...
They were a royal pain in the nuts and I enjoyed having 'em around. Made trips to Empire far more exciting.
Props for deccing the Powers that be, guys - I never whined about you once. If the Powers *do* bring in the Jove stuff, lemme know - I'll put a Drake together in a hurry and come join the PA and fight beside ya with pride!
FP
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Trebor Notlimah
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Posted - 2007.04.24 09:24:00 -
[164]
Ban ME!!!
I'll take my $15 per month and shove it in some stripper's g-string like I did before EvE. Until then, BATTLE STATIONS!!
*Got a Message From A Corp We're At War With*
Some Tard> Dude, Privateers are ***. What do they expect? Us to organize and escort our convoys with an armed escort during the time we're at war?
Me> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Image:Aerial_view_of_a_convoy.jpg
Me> Its probably a good idea, they figured it out in the 18th Century.
Them: "This Is Madness!!!"
Us: "No, This Is JITAAAAAAA!!!!"
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Minigin
Ganja Labs
Astral Wolves
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Posted - 2007.04.24 10:42:00 -
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Edited by: Minigin on 24/04/2007 10:38:55
I want to pose a serious question to privs.
post patch: are you expecting a decline in membership? and if so, are you expecting the lower revenue from your member corps to limit the war dec's even further?
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SFShootme
The Carebear Stare
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:12:00 -
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Originally by: Bigeasy
The privs grow a pair and come out to 0.0
or u grow a pair and come to empire
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Trinity Faetal
Gallente
0utbreak
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:25:00 -
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Originally by: Nomakai Delateriel
Originally by: Trinity Faetal
did you guys figure out already how to lock Polaris frigates
Or maybe just load up on FoFs and Smartbombs
how long to kill a ship with 99.9% all round 25.000 shield hp/ that recharges in 5 second, with a sig radius of an interceptor :p ?
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:28:00 -
[168]
Originally by: Minigin
Edited by: Minigin on 24/04/2007 10:38:55
I want to pose a serious question to privs.
post patch: are you expecting a decline in membership? and if so, are you expecting the lower revenue from your member corps to limit the war dec's even further?
1) Yes. Definatly.
2) with even half of our number of members/corps we will still be issuing 6+ wars. With a full compliment we would be issuing 9+
3)and yes. You guys are staying on the list.
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Per Bastet
Amarr
B.O.O.M
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Posted - 2007.04.24 11:50:00 -
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Gratz on Breaking your 200 Goal.
I look forward to watching the Fun from the Side Lines and Cheering everyone on.
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Transit Man
Amarr
Icarus' Wings
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Posted - 2007.04.24 14:07:00 -
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Edited by: Transit Man on 24/04/2007 14:03:17
Speaking as a total n00b, being introduced to PvP was an eye opening experience, even though the corp I'm in is pretty new too, there are some old chars with plenty of experience. PvP is part of the game, and I, for one, am not adverse to venturing into lowsec, and it was quite fun to have to experience hi-sec war relatively early on in my EVE gameplay.
Despite the *****ing and moaning in corp, secretly we all enjoyed the camaraderie of working together as a single group and having a goal (don't get pwned and keel the enemy!!!) and without the PA, many small corps like ours would not have had that opportunity, especially as most small corps will eventually move out to 0.0 and then the steep learning curve of battle with PA will show more fruit.
I enjoyed our 2 weeks of wardec, and this current one to follow, and yes, have had several gf, win or lose, it made no difference.
Without the wars, I don't think I would appreciate the depth or complexity of EVE as much as I do, and it has improved my lowsec activity no end, to the point where I will comfortably enter lowsec with caution, trepidation and anticipation of conflict foremost in my mind.
As others have said, evolution of the game and players will always make EVE an enjoyable experience, but you have to take the highs with the lows, and, if you can't, then stay in a n00b corp and never progress out of your mindset.
The PA have pushed the boundaries and the boundaries are being reset; but no one said you can't push those either. Those limitations only drive creativity and sooner or later, we'll have another mass influence like PA Wars.
As another corp member said, "As long as I enjoy it, I'll keep playing EVE", and, that, fellow players, is the only philosophy we need to stick to.
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Gate Bait
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Posted - 2007.04.25 14:46:00 -
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This has been a fascinating thread to read and I donÆt intend to weigh in on either side, but hereÆs a perspective that I donÆt believe has been covered so far so I though IÆd share it.
Like it or not the activity that the Privateers has engaged in has arguably jeopardized some of CCPs real world review stream by intimidating new players to a point where they leave the game or never convert their 14-day trail accounts. Some may read the forums and never even try the game based on this issue alone. I have enough experience with real business to know that this un-quantified volume of un-realized subscription revenue will always be viewed by sales as leaving money on the table.
I imagine a boardroom conversation that went something like this:
VP Sales (intentially overstating the problem): ôWhat are going to do to mitigate the gaming community perception that EVE has very poor newbie protection and a virtually non-existent PvE playing environment do to the actions of a particular group of players? ItÆs having a detrimental effect on our new subscription sales.ö
Lead Designer: ôWell, we could deploy a patch to address this issue, but I assure you that it will not go over well with many seasoned players and weÆll probably loose some.ö
CEO: ôIf we implement the patch, will the projected revenue of the new subscriptions out weigh that of those we risk loosing?ö
VP Sales: ôAbsolutely!ö
CEO: ôSounds like a no brainier, make it happen.ö
Lead Designer: ôBut what about the frustration weÆll cause with the detrimentally effected players?ö
CEO: ôWe have a forum for them to vent their frustrations donÆt we?ö
Lead Designer: ôYes.ö
CEO: ôGood, problem solved, whatÆs next on the agenda?ö
Lead Designer: (head sinks in disappointment)
Money folks, it all boils down to money.
My 2 cents
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Le Skunk
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.25 15:39:00 -
[172]
Originally by: Gate Bait
This has been a fascinating thread to read and I donÆt intend to weigh in on either side, but hereÆs a perspective that I donÆt believe has been covered so far so I though IÆd share it.
Like it or not the activity that the Privateers has engaged in has arguably jeopardized some of CCPs real world review stream by intimidating new players to a point where they leave the game or never convert their 14-day trail accounts.
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Money folks, it all boils down to money.
An interesting opinion. As ive said before - I dont even think CCP will be able to pur their finger on our exact effect on accounts.
The 14 day trial accounts would probably still be in their npc corp. We cannot dec them. Anyone we dec has 24 hours to click the npccorp button and we cant touch them. They choose not to - and are therefore subject to being shot at. Despite our rep - we try to dec the biggest alliances - not some poxy 3 man corp. It makes sense in terms of targets per isk ratio. Sometimes we are paid to dec a smaller corp - but its always because of some vendetta they have running - that smack talk/ore thiefing/loot snatching in some far of system you thought you got away with.
I know many people have mailed me and said they are staying in an what for many is an essentialy boring game(lets run the same mission 500 times so we get the LP to trade in for a faction ship that will enable us to run the next 500 slighty quicker \o/). Thev have said they are staying in the game because of the PvP.
I also know many people have bought second accoutns to train up transport ship/freighter alts. Sure you can use an alt - but then you stop your main training for 6 months.
Only a couple of post above yours is someon from a small corp who was decced saying he has enjoyed the dec and it has enlivened the game for him (thanks for e the post btw). Him and people like him are more likely to stay in the game after experincing the fun of hunting for us in a gang of his mate.
The 'bloody privateers - we want revenge lets hunt em' feeling introduces an excitement, a real goal, a drama you just dont get whilst PvE'ing.
"Oh no - That Serpentis Cruiser just killed billy bob in an asteroid belt. Tommorow we are forming a big gang and we are gonna pwn those npcs"
Is not something you will ever hear. (Well if someone has actaully said it in your corp i advise to to run away fast)
Dont get me wrong - we are in the Privateers for ourselves to have fun first, to provide a service to eve second. Worrying about CCP's revenue stream was a far distant 50th.
SKUNK
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Sergio Ling
Slacker Industries
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.04.25 15:42:00 -
[173]
I spent 2 hours on the nonni - jita - torrinos pipe, and the only privateers i saw were docked and chatting in local :(
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Gate Bait
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Posted - 2007.04.25 16:59:00 -
[174]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Gate Bait
This has been a fascinating thread to read and I donÆt intend to weigh in on either side, but hereÆs a perspective that I donÆt believe has been covered so far so I though IÆd share it.
Like it or not the activity that the Privateers has engaged in has arguably jeopardized some of CCPs real world review stream by intimidating new players to a point where they leave the game or never convert their 14-day trail accounts.
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Money folks, it all boils down to money.
An interesting opinion. As ive said before - I dont even think CCP will be able to pur their finger on our exact effect on accounts.
I concur completely, but it has been my experience that if someone makes a good argument to implement a change in support of additional revenue generation, it will receive a lot of attention and explored. And (regrettably) if sold well enough will be implemented without requiring proof of success beforehand.
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3rtrDunny
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Posted - 2007.04.26 13:12:00 -
[175]
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Hexman
Cryo Crypt inc.
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.04.29 18:18:00 -
[176]
Originally by: Le Skunk
Originally by: Stamm
Are they being allowed to keep the cheap wars past renwing time after the patch, or are they going to have to pay the high costs when it comes to re-payment time?
Nope - No more decs after the patch. After teh weeks wars we are back to running 5 or 6 wars total a week.
SKUNK
Well that just blows. If my opinion counts for anything to anybody (I think it doesnt but meh)...
This is one of the worst nerfs CCP has ever done, since it destroys a way of life and playstile for an entire alliance.
The way I see it, the guys that whine the most are the actual hauler ganks and black-screen ganks in Jita - And that leads to people thinking that's how all the privateers actually operate. So CCP has the mentality of "ugh my hand hurts. Ah! I'll cut it off and it'll go away" way of fixing things.
The real problem was station huggers (which is lame beyond belief) that just wait for easy kills, shoot and dock 30 seconds later. Why didn't CCP try to address THAT problem?? Station ganks and black-screen Jita ganks will still happen - but privateers just got their feet cut from under them.
I don't like nor dislike Privs - Never engaged them and the few times I've tried to, they were just insta-dockers. But it's the "populist" fix that CCP made to appease major whimps that really gets me.
Originally by: CCP Oveur
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band0fdevs
Gallente
Band of Dev's
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Posted - 2007.05.02 02:16:00 -
[177]
wars have dropped to sub 50 now whats the next plans for privateer alliance ? any particular alliances youre going to keep war deccing and stuff like that
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Sorted
Privateers
Privateer Alliance
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Posted - 2007.05.02 09:19:00 -
[178]
Originally by: band0fdevs
wars have dropped to sub 50 now whats the next plans for privateer alliance ? any particular alliances youre going to keep war deccing and stuff like that
We are just settling in after the patch (its going to take another week to catch up with us, before we re issue properly.)
Perma dec? Astral Wolves. Other than that who knows
O yeah - We do, but were not saying.
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