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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:33:00 -
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The volunteer team has been involved with EVE since the early days of Beta 2. The team has evolved, changed, expanded and now contracted. With the exception of a brief stint with a different game company, I have been involved with the vol team in one fashion or another for around 5 years. Some of the volunteers have gone on to work in the MMO industry, not only for CCP but other companies in the genre. There have been some trials and tribulations, but those pale in comparison to the camaraderie and community that is the ISD team.
As EVE has grown, so has her community and the need to support both program and players. Changes need to occur, we can either accept those changes and grow, or reject them and stagnate. A recent evaluation of the volunteer team showed us some changes that needed to be made, and the following dev blog announces the changes that will impact the five groups that make up the volunteer team. Two teams will eventually be closed, the other three will have a strengthening of their roles.
If any of the volunteers have had a positive impact on your EVE experience, please join me in a hearty "Thank you!" for all they have done. It has been an honor and a privilege to be affiliated with this wonderful group.
Interstellar Services Department û Past, Present and Future
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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SEP LTJohonson
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:35:00 -
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Been with the ISD for nearly a Year and a half now. Shame to see it go, but fun from end to end :)
Thanks CCP \o/
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Virtuozzo
IVC Consortium
INVICTUS.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:35:00 -
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Consequences, perception, trust, corporate process management.
Virtuozzo
Last words of a Caldari general: "Pull the Ravens back! Full retreat! they've got frigates!"
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mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:36:00 -
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If i say good riddance, do i get a forum warning?
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:37:00 -
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I haven't been with CRC all that long, but I can say it's been a privilege and an honor.
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Valorem
Amarr
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:38:00 -
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It has been an honour and a pleasure to serve within CRC for the last 6 months.
As a volunteer for CCP I have always tried (probably not always succeeded) in making the forums a more friendly place for the majority of visitors.
Many thanks to Kieron for the opportunity to serve and to all the wonderful guys and girls in CRC who made the job a pleasure.
So long, CRC - it was a great time 
Love and kisses
Valorem
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Sahwoolo Etoophie
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:39:00 -
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It has been an honour.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:40:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 21/08/2007 20:41:46
*snip* AGAIN this is not the place for discussing the sell order forums. - Valorem And shut outs to the mods, you know I love you guys for doing what you did. :)
Its a bit of a sad feeling now tbh.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:41:00 -
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Cough cough, I'll try again:
I wish I'd had time to volunteer. ISD were cool 
Less cool for deleting a post, but still in positive balance, as things go 
*wink* I know you were first :-)
I am intrigued what will happen to events. The ISD events team have been the only official RP I've ever actually seen. I hope it comes out of these changes fighting fit.
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Sabaoth
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:41:00 -
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I've been with CCP Games for over 6 Years now from Alpha/Beta/Release and its a very sad day that Aurora has been laid to rest. I have met a lot of wonderful people through this process and would do it all over again given the chance.
I just hope CCP dosent regret this decision...
Farwell Aurora it has been an honour!
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Aurora Captain
The Aurora Project
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:41:00 -
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Dear members of the EVE-Online Community,
On behalf of the ISD Communications Relay Commission Forum Moderator Team, I would like to thank you all for your support and appreciation over the years. It has been a pleasure to serve the EVE-Community and those of us not continuing on with ISD will miss being able to support you.
Best regards and so long,
Jacques Archambault
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:42:00 -
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What a range of emotions. As a player sometimes you always want to try and give something back to the community that has been there for you. So, when I thought about the forums, since like a good portion of the community used them, being a moderator made sense.
The Vols of the moderation team have taken more then enough heat over the past few months and I would do it all over again with this team.
We may have started a players from a collection of Corps/Alliances, but in the end....
We were CRC and ISD, Corp/Alliance.
Been fun and I will miss you all.
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Eshtir
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:43:00 -
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Thanks for the opportunity to be a forum moderator for over 2 years, CCP.
It has been a pleasure to serve this community. Also a huge thank you for my fellow moderators for the good time we had.
Eshtir, for Emperor
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TheDagda
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:43:00 -
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Not been with CRC and ISD for very long, but made friends and was able to experience a side of eve not many get to see. Good luck to all CRC and Aurora.
Also to anyone that is unaware of my true feelings towards all this, well.. this explains how I feel
Up Da Irish!
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Jamie Hara
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:43:00 -
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Good riddance. I am happy that they are now unable to scam and fraud for the time being. |
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EA Zatoken
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:44:00 -
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I want to thank CCP and ISD for letting us bring EVE alive.
I want to thank the players for running along with our wild ideas, making our events come alive and be fun.
We could never have done it without you.
And to my friends in Aurora, I'll miss you.
This best sums my feelings of my time in Aurora:
We are the music-makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams;
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.
With wonderful deathless ditties
We build up the world's great cities,
And out of a fabulous story
We fashion an empire's glory:
One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample an empire down.
We, in the ages lying
In the buried past of the earth,
Built Nineveh with our sighing,
And Babel itself with our mirth;
And o'erthrew them with prophesying
To the old of the new world's worth;
For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.
Ode - Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:45:00 -
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Been with ISD for almost 2 years now. It's been a blast guys. I'll miss ISD, and the good chaps within. It was great working with you guys.
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EP Kinsyr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:45:00 -
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Ladies and gents, it's been an honour.
For me personally, the last 12 months have been a blast and the experiences I've had acting in and producing events has been one I'll remember for a long time. From strange deaths, through raids and outright battles to demonstrations, I've enjoyed every minute of it.
Thanks to the players who've taken part, Galen and the leads and of course my friends in Aurora. For now, see you perhaps sometime in the future, maybe with another hat on
-[EP]Kinsyr
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Incognus
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:47:00 -
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Saddened doesn't describe what i feel now.
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Pirlouit
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:47:00 -
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It was great fun to moderate and learn a lot about eve at the same time. Good riddance to all of you and fly safe.
The eve forum community is one of the best one encountered.
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Sami Yahn'ko
Gallente
The Butterfly Rebellion
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:47:00 -
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A BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG, BIG THANK YOU to all you volunteers!
Particularly you guys in Aurora. I have attended a few events in my short time around the game, I've read chatlogs and stories from others, and they were all a joy to see unfold.
Thank you!!
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Galen.
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:47:00 -
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I could not count the many great people i had the chance to meet in Aurora and ISD.
It has been a pleasure and an honor.
It¦s a sad day. So much talent lost.
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Jim McGregor
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:48:00 -
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Im not really understanding the blog... "The Forum Moderation and the Events teams will be placed on hiatus as we take time to evaluate processes and procedures for the betterment of the EVE CommunityÆs play experience."
What does this mean? Who will moderate the forums?
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Evanda Char
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:50:00 -
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Events were a wonderful thing, adding a lot to the political interaction in eve, and depth and atmosphere to the story and setting. Plus, they were wonderfully fun and different to the run-of-the-mill, day to day activity in the game. They were something unique to Eve.
I really hope the end of Aurora doesn't mean the end of this kind of support for the RP community. Frankly I would rather have seen more Aurora events stirring tensions between the factions than factional warfare, at least in the form outlined in the dev blog.
To whichever actors played the Wolves of Pator, and those wonderful exploding Fedo trainers, thank you. We had some wonderful times, and they propelled us into deeper and deeper political webs. We will miss you a lot.
Thanks too to CRC - if you've never had serious forum grief directed at you or a friend on the forums, you have no idea how much better seeing that *snip* can make someone feel. Plus, y'know, everyone yelling "Timmeh!" over vent every time he posts...
It's going to be so quiet now...
I'll miss you guys... Now come and play!
-Eva-
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Jamie Hara
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:50:00 -
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Can we, the eve community look forward to any kind of full disclosure once you are done with the audit of the volunteer forum moderator and event teams? |
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Scyd
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:51:00 -
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It was an Honor to work with the ISD Staff as a part of CRC.
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GM Faolchu
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:52:00 -
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Having been a volunteer it will be sad to see these teams disappear. Good luck to all those involved and don't forget my beer at the fanfest. |
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Lord Matrix
PBA Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:57:00 -
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If the CRC is gone, who will moderate the forums and who will run events?
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SEP Kerren
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:58:00 -
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It's been a long 4 and a bit years since beta, but we've done our bit. A big thank you to all players who have interacted and contributed, as well as the great work of the ISD staff. It has been an honour and a pleasure to serve amongst you as a producer of events.
Oh yes by the way...
GALEN FOR EMPEROR!!!
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GM Krymus
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.21 20:59:00 -
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Thank you CRC and Aurora, and best of luck in the future.
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Annaliese Witschak
Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:00:00 -
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Originally by: mazzilliu
If i say good riddance, do i get a forum warning?
Maybe this will help answer your question.
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Fredou
Gallente
Hidden Agenda
Deep Space Engineering
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:06:00 -
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good job to all volunteers!
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Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:07:00 -
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Oh, it¦s a shame to see CRC and Aurora go. Will the forums now remain unmoderated? (Hopefully not...) Has CCP hired staff for moderating the forums?
What¦s up with events? Everything suspended? What a shame!
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Thuul'Khalat
Gallente
Phoenix Wing
Acheron Federation
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:07:00 -
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So basically, you're scrapping the entire RPG part and turning EVE into your average bland MMOG instead.
Two thumbs up... no... really... 
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Santiago Cortes
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:07:00 -
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I have been a volunteer for over two years and have met some truly dedicated people in that time.
Through all the patch days, threadnaughts, isk sellers down to the day-to-day board banter the moderator's job will always be appreciated but never liked.
To all those I have worked with and choose to leave, go with the fondest memories of being a group of people that gave, in some cases, thousands of man hours to help other people and CCP as a company progress.
Your integrity and selflessness does you great credit.
To all those that choose to stay, let us continue the high standards set by the majority of those that went before us.
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SEP Benjamin
Caldari
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:08:00 -
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Edited by: SEP Benjamin on 21/08/2007 21:11:01
So long and thanks for all the fish!
Edit: GALEN FOR EMPEROR!!!
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SEP Benjamin
Senior Event Producer
ISD Aurora
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AeolusWind
Minmatar
ISD STAR
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:09:00 -
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I just wanted to post here with my respects for Aurora as well as CRC. I've been in ISD for almost 2 years, and I have to say that Being a part of this group of like-minded people, devoted to giving the players of EVE the best playing experience possible has truly been an honor.
I've butted heads with people in Aurora as well as CRC, I recall having my player char's sig being nerfed (unknowing that it was me of course) by a CRC and to this day I have not let him live it down (Plus I follow the rules now :P)
Aurora was the brunt of many jokes but these guys, well there's just no words to describe what they did for the community. Spending time developing arcs, advancing the storyline, these are the kinds of things that in most other companies they have an entire team of paid employees to handle for them.
The Reason I joined ISD was actually because of an Aurora member on SiSi telling me all about it.
Aurora and CRC will be missed, STAR, BH and IC will still be around, and you can bet that we'll be just as devoted as ever to brining the players of EVE the best experience we can offer.
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lordharold
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:09:00 -
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Well its been a great pleasure working with all the ISD guys over the last few months, it really has been a blast, and working on the forums itself is often a lot of fun. It is a shame it has to end in this way, but such is life.
I'm writing this as I eat my last meal (probably) as a moderator - a chicken kebab.
The underwear hat is being put away. Who knows if it will return???
Enjoy yourselves,
-Lord Harold
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Black TigerClaw
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:09:00 -
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Who is going to moderate the forums?
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DirtyHarry
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:10:00 -
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Big thank-you to those who weren't fascist and had a sense of humor!
Question being, who moderates the forums from here on out?
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Mori Felding
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:11:00 -
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To the event team, which is the thing clearest in my mind, a big tanks! It was something that truly inspired to remain in EVE. It made the immersion of the story in EVE feel real which is quite rare in an mmo.
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Huang Yinglong
Namtz'aar k'in
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:12:00 -
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who is going to moderate the forums?
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Elmicker
The Phoenix Rising
FreeFall Securities
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:15:00 -
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Thanks to all the ISD team, you've been great.
But, seriously...
No events?
Paid moderators?
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Jamie Hara
Caldari
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:15:00 -
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Originally by: MotherMoon
who is going to moderate the forums?
Professionals at CCP?
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Lallara Zhuul
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:16:00 -
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Thank you for the good and the bad.
It has been a good ride with you guys.
Good luck with whatever you put your energies in the future.
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:16:00 -
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Edited by: Sakura Nihil on 21/08/2007 21:16:06
If the CRC is gone, who will moderate the forums and who will run even...
Sorry, broken record starting up here .
Regardless, kudos to CRC, you bunch of sig pirates  .
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CCP kieron
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:16:00 -
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A number of questions have been posted about the fate of the forums and events. I've added the questions to my initial post, as well as answers. I will continue to do so as questions arise.
kieron
Director of Community Relations, EVE Online
EVE Online, CCP Games
Email/Netfang
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:16:00 -
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I feel dizzy, anyone has smelling salts?
Oh, and good luck to a future, restructured ISD, I hope that CCP knows what they are doing, but part of me still feels a pang of loss in more ways than one.
Good Luck ISD guys, and thanks for taking the time in making EVE better for most of us.
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Zhuge Liang
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:16:00 -
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Thanks to all the mods past and present for your tireless hard work on the forums, we've had many good times and great memories which will always be ours to treasure. It has been an honour serving CCP as a forum moderator and forum lead right from the early days till today.
Thank you all and may EVE flourish for many more years to come.
-Zhuge Liang, CRC, Dec 2003 - Aug 2007
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:17:00 -
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/me fluffles my friends in CRC and ISD, they have to be THE MOST dedicated group of eve fans ever. Many will never understand the amount of work some of these people have done, and they never ask for thanks, recognition or rewards.
They are the foundation to the community and the impact of them leaving i feel will not be felt until its too late.
There has been more good times in CRC than i could possibly remember and they have got the community through good and bad times, and they have got me through good and bad times. Again never asking for thanks or anything in return. I hope i can keep in contact with them all because these are exceptional people.
I will never foget my time with these people.
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/me hugs, Fluffles, eats brains, jessica alba's and snuggle up to those people, they know who the are.
- Thanks Hutch.
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ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö
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Alz Shado
Ever Flow
FREGE Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:17:00 -
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There were events?!
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Zoopfury
Veld Junkies
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:18:00 -
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Please do not derail a thread, stay on topic -Scyd ([email protected])
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Akita T
Caldari Navy Volunteer Task Force
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:19:00 -
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*snip* Please stay on topic and don't derail the thread. -Elmo Pug
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EA Tandoiras
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:19:00 -
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It has been both a joy and a pleasure to be in Aurora and to work with the rest of ISD & CCP in supporting EVE. I had had great fun in acting in all the events and interacting with players.
Farewell Aurora & CRC, May you never be forgotten...
*Steals Benjamin's fish*
Tandoiras
Event actor
AURORA
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Elmo Pug
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:22:00 -
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It has been a great honor serving with the rest of CRC and Aurora, and I want to thank CCP for the opportunity to give back to the community of a game that I have enjoyed so much.
It has been fun, there have been hard times, there have been good times, and I couldn't imagine a better group of people to experience those with.
o7
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:23:00 -
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If you all were not volunteers i'd say you lot had just been fired.
At least we have our answer to the forum closure now.
I wonder how many of ISD were hand picked to be able to moderate the now "ex ISD" incase things turned nasty.
I'll miss the mods and even though I never actually witnessed an event, i'll miss them too, the hope of being part of one made some of the slow game nights tick past.
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Luigi Thirty
Caldari
19th Star Logistics
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:29:00 -
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Countdown to massive ISK seller invasion and/or Asian buyout of CCP.
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James Lyrus
Lyrus Associates
Betrayal Under Mayhem
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:31:00 -
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Does this mean my cunning plan of forum modding my way to steal Kieron's job is dead in the water? 
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Verone
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:32:00 -
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If AURORA ceases to exist, who will decide on the future of the game's backstory and it's direction?
Also, if AURORA is shutting down, who will be responsible for hosting and running in character events and who will complete the current ARCs which have been left wide open, some for in excess of two years?
>>> THE BEAUTY OF NEW EDEN <<<
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Zoopfury
Veld Junkies
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:33:00 -
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Something is very wrong with all this. and the silence in the other thread is even more worrying!
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Valorem
Amarr
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Countdown to massive ISK seller invasion and/or Asian buyout of CCP.
Don't bet on it.
Some of us are here for the time being to ensure that the forums stay clean and friendly
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Yakumo Smith
Gallente
The Scope
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:34:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Im honestly worried. The next logical step seems to be to remove this forum entirely and let someone else host and moderate it. I prey that never happens.
You ain't the only one. Would be nice if the cloak and dagger stuff was just dropped for a change. If it were done in stages I'd be less worried, but trimming the moderators to such a degree...doesn't bode well.
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Rodj Blake
Amarr
PIE Inc.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:37:00 -
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Firstly, I think that the volunteers have done a wonderful job over the last four years, under occasionally very difficult circumstances.
Secondly, if this means that the promised story-arc that that was promised to have been completed by the end of 2007 gets delayed yet again I will be going on a rampage the like of which has never been seen before.
I don't think I need to remind anyone at CCP what story-arc I'm talking about.
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:37:00 -
[64]
I have been with ISD for 6 months, in that time I have worked with Aurora and CRC. It has been an honour to serve alongside both teams and they all require a pat on the back for all their efforts and hours they have put into the eve community in the pass weeks, months and years.
Good Luck to the members of both teams in their futures.
o/ to CRC and Aurora
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:38:00 -
[65]
My fellow forumites and ISD mates,
For over 2 years I have been here moderating the forums. During none of this have I never regretted joining ISD and having so much interaction with the community. Guys, I love you all!
CRC 4 LIFE!
Captain
Kaemonn
May 2005 - August 2007
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:40:00 -
[66]
Originally by: Rodj Blake
Firstly, I think that the volunteers have done a wonderful job over the last four years, under occasionally very difficult circumstances.
Secondly, if this means that the promised story-arc that that was promised to have been completed by the end of 2007 gets delayed yet again I will be going on a rampage the like of which has never been seen before.
I don't think I need to remind anyone at CCP what story-arc I'm talking about.
Well atleast you might actually get an arc for your leader, some day. Our Prez snuck in without even a glimmer of the exciting arc that'd been promised...
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Naqam
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:46:00 -
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Nooes, I'll miss yew guys. Come back soon, kk? ._. /
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Salvis Tallan
Gallente
The Shadow Order
SMASH Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:47:00 -
[68]
Thank you to everyone who volunteered their time to serve the community. Without your hard work, who knows where we would be.
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:50:00 -
[69]
Originally by: James Lyrus
Does this mean my cunning plan of forum modding my way to steal Kieron's job is dead in the water?
Worked for Wrangler ;).
I always thought ISD was a good idea but just a little mismanaged. It does somewhat break the idea of every player being treated equally when some have a slightly more direct line to the devs and GMs but I think that's part of the reason for ISD's shutdown. Even if it's only a temporary shutdown for a review of procedures, it's another important step forward for the longevity of eve.
I remember calling for a review of volunteer procedures in the wake of the T20 incident and various information leaks and it's good to see that it's coming. So how will this work now? If it's decided that volunteer positions with authority or power that are filled by players are inherently open to abuse, might it not be a good idea to employ professional people to fill ISD's roles? I'm sure CCP has the cash for it.
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Vengeance 8 Interceptors
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[70]
Originally by: Salvis Tallan
Thank you to everyone who volunteered their time to serve the community. Without your hard work, who knows where we would be.
QFT..
I'm sure you have butted heads with most of the playerbase at some point but good work guys, even when we gave you hell you responded with the famous *click*.
Good work guys.. come back soon kk!!
2 Bombs in 1 day CCP... Bad things always come in three's....
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Jacques Archambault
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:53:00 -
[71]
Oh, I also forgot to mention....
Thanks for all the fun we had during sig-hijacks and mods-gone-wild threads where CRC forgot to take their meds.
Much <3,
Jacques'
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:54:00 -
[72]
Originally by: Jacques Archambault
Oh, I also forgot to mention....
Thanks for all the fun we had during sig-hijacks and mods-gone-wild threads where CRC forgot to take their meds.
Much <3,
Jacques'
That was so much fun. I hope that legacy doesn't die  damnit.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:56:00 -
[73]
Only been in Aurora for more than a year or so but it was the best quality time in Eve by a long shot. Sometimes even falling off my chair laughing. (Actually liked armageddon day as well btw.)
CCP gave us the unique opportunity to devote our time to Eve helping out making the game more special. Even if this meant spending hours preparing for an event that only runs 5 minutes because players liked their pew pew a little too soon. *shakes fist*
So don't underestimate the hours ISD has put in. If they put that time into veld mining they'd make Chribba very happy. Massive respect for this. Even though we all couldn't create lag in an empty sytem if we really wanted to.
I guess everyone saw this was coming. But it's gonna be even better. CCP owe us.
I'll certainly miss the pointless chats on IRC/TS.
I'll certainly miss the 'what is this blue text about?' questions in local. 
It was not blue! It was teal!
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hango
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:57:00 -
[74]
First off, o/ to the rest of the CRC crew. You guys kick ass, and clearly CRC was made from pure win and awesome. I'm very sad to see it go. To the guys who will deal with the forums from here on out I say good luck (especially in CAOD ;) ).
A big "Thanks!" goes to the members, too. Many of you emailed us when we missed things, and now and then we got a heartfelt "thank you" which really brightened our day, even more so than the hundreds of male enlargement drug advertisements that somehow flooded our inboxes every day.
As for the future, we'll all sign up as moderators on SHC :P.
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The Cosmopolite
Jericho Fraction
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.08.21 21:57:00 -
[75]
Thanks to all the volunteers for their work.
I hope something good can emerge from this change.
Cosmo
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Nyphur
Pillowsoft
Total Comfort
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:00:00 -
[76]
Originally by: Jacques Archambault
Oh, I also forgot to mention....
Thanks for all the fun we had during sig-hijacks and mods-gone-wild threads where CRC forgot to take their meds.
Much <3,
Jacques'
I just realised I'm really going to miss all you nutters :/.
*hugs*
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Matalino
Gallente
Ki Tech Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:01:00 -
[77]
I would like to thank all the volunteer moderators.
CCP, I for one will support you on rearranging your teams how you see fit.
However, I don't see that as justification for the change to the market forums. The official explaination regarding the state of the in-game contracts is even less defencable.
Please, provide us with a forum in which we can properly advertise business. If you do not think that the current incarnation is acceptable, I would suggest the following as an alternative with the hopes that it would be easier to moderate.
Create a Business Directory forum, allow one active post per corp to advertise their goods and/or services. Standard bumping rules of one per day would apply. If a corp feels that their thread is getting to long they can request to have it locked so that they can open another one. No NPC corp postings just like with COAD and such.
By having such a forum, it would enhance the importance of building a reputation as a corp for providing a specific set of goods and services, but would still fill a much needed role.
Originally by: CCP Prism X
P.S. If you think you're reading some information through the lines here, you're wrong. I'm actually just bored.
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Minmatar
Miner Tech
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:02:00 -
[78]
Thank you! o7
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:04:00 -
[79]
Until the new structure is in place, many of the moderators will stay and continue their duties, myself included. You're not quite rid of us just yet. ;)
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Kayscha
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:08:00 -
[80]
Respect and gratitude to the volunteers, who have done an admirable job 99 per cent of the time.
Suspicion and anger to CCP for this move and the style it was pulled off. Koporate krap to very possibly (why else say a lot and not tell us anything?) disguise an ulterior motive, it would seem. I suspect the volunteer's independence will be severely restricted and the news, already scarce, removed to force players to suscribe to both E-ON and EVE-TV if they wish to participate in the living fiction that is EVE (much as has been done with the dev chats and EVE voice, IIRC). Beyond being a rip-off, this will add another layer between the makers and players of the game, between CCP and the community, and EVE as a whole will not profit but suffer from it.
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ReverendM
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:12:00 -
[81]
Many of us joined for a single reason: to give back to a community that gave us something. To all of ISD, it has been a pleasure and an honor. To AURORA and my fellow CRC, we have done our jobs, we have helped shape this community, and now it is time to step out of our roles - roles some of us have held for quite some time - and let things progress. To the community - it has been a fun ride from threadnaughts to hijacks. I'll miss this.
Good luck, fly safe, and if nothing else - take someone with you!
-ReverendM
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:12:00 -
[82]
I'm having a hard time understanding this move. I suspect this move is due to things happening in the background that CCP have found out.
I must ask for more information into this as I feel the community deserves it, it feels to me that although we have been told ISD is to cease in certain areas we are not being given the whole picutre here.
Can we have some clarity on the situation please
Also if this is the case I would remove the rights to sign up for ISD maybe?
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Cobray Aine
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:18:00 -
[83]
Good luck to all those in CRC and AURORA, us over in IC wish you all the best for the future.
I've enjoyed working together with everyone, and look forward to working with those who transfer to us in future.
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Maze La'Zie
Caldari Independent Navy Reserve
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:20:00 -
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Thank you, volunteers!
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SEP Kerren
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:21:00 -
[85]
We shall return, we shall find a way in the fullness of time grins *grins*
I'm sure it most certainly isnt the end for many volunteers in the teams. The good work of the Bug Hunters and STAR shall of course continue.
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Chribba
Otherworld Enterprises
Otherworld Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:23:00 -
[86]
/me bows to all ISD members and a big thank you. Hopefully you will remain within ISD and do a great job at another position.
As for the moderator team, I really really hope this isn't the beginning of a forumless EVE-Online, nor a change to deploy the "ingameboard.asp" to its full name. The forums are a big part of EVE and that is amongst the last things I would want to see gone.
Best wishes for all, and welcome to the Community team.
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HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:24:00 -
[87]
I don't understand whats going on.
Just ISD - Aurora, or all ISD?
Though i've been a huge pita and my record probably has 10,000 flags on it, thank you isd for enforcing the rules well and all that other stuff you do.
Hopefully no livelihoods are effected negatively by this.
GL all!
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hango
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:26:00 -
[88]
SamuraiJack:
Don't bother, I tried sending a postcard to "CRC, c/o ISD, Planet 5 Moon 3, The Polaris System, New Eve" and it never got there. Damn lazy postal service.
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Chemal
ISD AURORA
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:28:00 -
[89]
Thank you Nebulai and Galen for trusting and believing in me. You made my stride possible and you helped me grow and more importantly - made it possible for me to help others grow. It's been a pleasure serving you. I bow to you.
It has been a pleasure sharing part of my life with you brethren Aurorians. We have had a wonderful time together and we have held our heads high, although the tidal waves have swept in almost drowning us.
We have done things I couldn't imagine possible. We have outperformed ourselves over and over. We've given life to New Eden that unfortunately will not return in the forseeable future.
I bow to you my old and new friends within Aurora. We might be enemies ingame with our main characters, but out of game in our communication channels we have been one. We have been standing united against everything and everyone and we have come out stronger each and every time. Our bond is strong, our morale has never swayed, our passion and loyalty is neverending. We are Aurora.
To the rest of ISD I wanna say "thank you". It's been a pleasure getting to know you and working alongside you. All my love to you.
The light that burns twice as bright burns half as long - and you have burned so very, very brightly, Aurora.
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HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:28:00 -
[90]
Originally by: Chribba
As for the moderator team, I really really hope this isn't the beginning of a forumless EVE-Online, nor a change to deploy the "ingameboard.asp" to its full name. The forums are a big part of EVE and that is amongst the last things I would want to see gone.
And this.
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SHC Derek
We Know Derek
Derek Knows Us
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:30:00 -
[91]
[23:28] (HippoKing): UNBAN ME NOW, OK
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:33:00 -
[92]
Originally by: SHC Derek
[23:28] (HippoKing): UNBAN ME NOW, OK
lol hippo being a well known member from the forums definitely ripping his hair out now if he really is banned 
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Onchas Erivvia
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:34:00 -
[93]
I had a terrible time dealing with some of the forum moderators. As a moderator on another game system who's been at it longer than Eve's been in business, and who wrote many of the forum rules and helped establish many of the forum moderating policies, it was clear that there were fundamental failures in your system, both in its basic set of policies and its execution.
Forum moderating is a hard thing to do, and it's impact on gaming communities and the development process are vastly under-estimated by even the majority of the development team at most publishers.
Moderating teams (and game managers) need to be part of a culture of accountability that can only come internally. There needs to regularly be an effort within the team to question and challenge decisions made by other moderators. Rules need to be written in such a way that they clearly outline the rule, the premise behind its inclusion, and as rule interpretations shift over time, those need to be incorporated. When community members say, "why did I get a warning?" to say, "well because you violated rule #x". That was the most common response issued by this moderating team. Sorry folks, that's obvious the moment warnings show up, and just not good enough to respond to a customers complaint or concern.
It's clear that this team was afraid to be held accountable for their actions, when a willingness to be held accountable and to justify your decision making process must exist with every decision you make. Through this sort of accountability, plainly transparent to other members of the team, it is far easier to arrive at a common accepted standard that all members of the moderating team can then apply to their moderating. This makes precedents clear. I assume a forum existed for moderators to communicate with one another to seek advise before handling questionable or borderline examples, but those forums must be used and used effectively, and part of a broader accountability effort.
The policy of allowing player-volunteer moderators to be anonymous to the game community MUST come with a tremendous level of oversight. It's too hard for moderators when they're anonymous to bring to the forums the necessary level of objectivity.
Rules need to be written clearly and concisely. National differences in humour and modes of dialogue must be respected and tolerated. And most importantly, they need to be applied evenly and equally. Even though it's impossible for a cost-appropriate moderator team to catch every single rule violation, having consistent standards that are arrived at by group consensus rather than decree ensure that customers know what to expect when they log on.
There also clearly a life-cycle to moderators that must be understood and adjusted for to make sure you understand the typical psychological experiences moderators experience from their initial trepidation, to the almost universal over-reaction, to their complete hate and loathing of forum goers, the numb and automated moderating that follows, and finally the here-but-not-here status that most moderators end up in as their life situation shifts that they can't offer substantial hours to forum moderating.
It's not clear to me that CCP has developed sufficient internal capability or knowledge to handle the sorts of forums they've produced here. If they have, it's hard to explain why your forums were allowed to breakdown in such a fundamental way. Was it a failure in oversight? Flawed recruitment techniques? Ineffectual training? I have a feeling that your hierarchical structure didn't help, because it locked in certain staff members who were allowed to underachieve their way to the top rather than identifying key moderators who were effective and good leaders and putting them into positions of influence; a good way of pushing out people who are both effective and are looking to change an under performing organization.
Anyways, I really do hope CCP gets it right next time! Good luck. You need it!
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:35:00 -
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Well there are alot of words but hardly any info in this nor does it seems to come from the heart. The community grew is the reason for getting rid of most of the volunteers? Eventually forum moderation will be done by a ¦community team¦..eventually? Is there no plan? And that for people who volunteered and got also lured by very promising advertisement to be a part of a team working for this game any maybe even going further than volunteer are being thrown out? Hmmz to show apreciation to people who did volunteer work there should be some truthfull words regarding the ending at least and not this.
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Shevar
Minmatar
A.W.M
Ka-Tet
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:37:00 -
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Quote:
W recognizing the overall goal is to support our players in the best manner possible.
By closing the sell forums so paid moderators have less work
Anyways thanks for the hours of volunteering (most :>) members of ISD.
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:37:00 -
[96]
Originally by: ForumPosterAlt
Originally by: Chribba
As for the moderator team, I really really hope this isn't the beginning of a forumless EVE-Online, nor a change to deploy the "ingameboard.asp" to its full name. The forums are a big part of EVE and that is amongst the last things I would want to see gone.
And this.
Very much this. Seeing as I spend more time on these OOG forums than I do actually playing, losing the forums would actually make me consider cancelling my account. Not because of megadrama, but just because I consider EVE-O value for money, even when I'm not actually in the mood to play (which, according to the Devs, is about every 7 months for most people). Not sure I could justify paying for the bits when I'm not playing, if I didn't have these forums for whoring.
Is it a sign of how devastating a concept that'd be to me that it didn't even occur to me when reading the blog / thread? 
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Wachtmeister
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:39:00 -
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Mit gro¯em Bedauern schreibe ich hiermit meine wom÷glich letzten Worte als ein Mitglied des ISD/CRC Corps. Es war eine Ehre fnr diesen Verein arbeiten zu dnrfen und in den wenigen Wochen in denen ich auf das Forum losgelassen wurde und in denen ich die Mitglieder dieses gar vortrefflichen Teams kennen lernen durfte, habe ich eine Menge Sachen gelernt und werde sie umso mehr auch in Erinnerung behalten.
Ich bedanke mich vor allem bei CCP und all den Menschen, die mir in den Wochen geholfen haben (CRC bewusst und die ganzen Forum-_beltSter unbewusst :) ) um auch mir selbst ein neues Ich im RL zu finden.
Vielen Dank an alle... und... thanks for all the fish. :)
(Just so no one mods me.. haha.... I just thanked everyone for the experience I was able to gain from this and how I loved to be a member of a team of extra-ordinary people. Although I have only been a member for a few weeks, some of you have given me a damn lot of good laughs on IRC and the forums and the experience of having been a CRC member is something that no one is going to take away again.
To the other moderators. I love you.
To the forum users... I love you.
And to the rest... Ich liebe euch alle. :)
So far... The bodyless Mod.
Wachtmeister
Contrary to popular belief he actually has a body -Eldo
My body is well trained and I have a sixpack.... in the fridge. -Wachty
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Jinx Barker
GFB Scientific
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:40:00 -
[98]
Originally by: SHC Derek
[23:28] (HippoKing): UNBAN ME NOW, OK
I Miss Hippo. I will come to SHC just for that.
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SEP Thalack
Minmatar
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:42:00 -
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It's been a year, maybe a bit more, one's mind stops functioning properly after too much bree.
It's been a year of joy, lots of fun events, and even more fun reactions from the players..
I want to thank the community, and the rest of ISD for making eve as great as it is now, and especially to Galen and Nebulai for bringing Aurora to be (bit biased in this oppinion but many will agree) the best community enhancement any game ever had to offer.
I salute thee.
Thalack Qu'ellar
A lone wolf of Pator.
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Takahashi Arran
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:44:00 -
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Its disheartening how even in being fired the moderators are allowed to post nothing but thanks for the great times rather then having opinions themselves about whether this is a good idea or not. (well atleast on these forums. several have made their views very clear elsewhere)
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HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:46:00 -
[101]
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
I had a terrible time dealing with some of the forum moderators. As a moderator on another game system who's been at it longer than Eve's been in business, and who wrote many of the forum rules and helped establish many of the forum moderating policies, it was clear that there were fundamental failures in your system, both in its basic set of policies and its execution.
... (ran out of characters, but lots more words go here)
Anyways, I really do hope CCP gets it right next time! Good luck. You need it!
I see you haven't put much thought into this subject.
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GO MaZ
Spartan Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:46:00 -
[102]
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
I had a terrible time dealing with some of the forum moderators. As a moderator on another game system who's been at it longer than Eve's been in business, and who wrote many of the forum rules and helped establish many of the forum moderating policies, it was clear that there were fundamental failures in your system, both in its basic set of policies and its execution.
Forum moderating is a hard thing to do, and it's impact on gaming communities and the development process are vastly under-estimated by even the majority of the development team at most publishers.
Moderating teams (and game managers) need to be part of a culture of accountability that can only come internally. There needs to regularly be an effort within the team to question and challenge decisions made by other moderators. Rules need to be written in such a way that they clearly outline the rule, the premise behind its inclusion, and as rule interpretations shift over time, those need to be incorporated. When community members say, "why did I get a warning?" to say, "well because you violated rule #x". That was the most common response issued by this moderating team. Sorry folks, that's obvious the moment warnings show up, and just not good enough to respond to a customers complaint or concern.
It's clear that this team was afraid to be held accountable for their actions, when a willingness to be held accountable and to justify your decision making process must exist with every decision you make. Through this sort of accountability, plainly transparent to other members of the team, it is far easier to arrive at a common accepted standard that all members of the moderating team can then apply to their moderating. This makes precedents clear. I assume a forum existed for moderators to communicate with one another to seek advise before handling questionable or borderline examples, but those forums must be used and used effectively, and part of a broader accountability effort.
The policy of allowing player-volunteer moderators to be anonymous to the game community MUST come with a tremendous level of oversight. It's too hard for moderators when they're anonymous to bring to the forums the necessary level of objectivity.
Rules need to be written clearly and concisely. National differences in humour and modes of dialogue must be respected and tolerated. And most importantly, they need to be applied evenly and equally. Even though it's impossible for a cost-appropriate moderator team to catch every single rule violation, having consistent standards that are arrived at by group consensus rather than decree ensure that customers know what to expect when they log on.
There also clearly a life-cycle to moderators that must be understood and adjusted for to make sure you understand the typical psychological experiences moderators experience from their initial trepidation, to the almost universal over-reaction, to their complete hate and loathing of forum goers, the numb and automated moderating that follows, and finally the here-but-not-here status that most moderators end up in as their life situation shifts that they can't offer substantial hours to forum moderating.
It's not clear to me that CCP has developed sufficient internal capability or knowledge to handle the sorts of forums they've produced here. If they have, it's hard to explain why your forums were allowed to breakdown in such a fundamental way. Was it a failure in oversight? Flawed recruitment techniques? Ineffectual training? I have a feeling that your hierarchical structure didn't help, because it locked in certain staff members who were allowed to underachieve their way to the top rather than identifying key moderators who were effective and good leaders and putting them into positions of influence; a good way of pushing out people who are both effective and are looking to change an under performing organization.
Anyways, I really do hope CCP gets it right next time! Good luck. You need it!
You have nothing on James 315 when it comes to posting pages and pages of drivel.
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mazzilliu
Caldari
Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:52:00 -
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Originally by: GO MaZ
::words i didnt read::
best name ever. i want to buy your character and make it follow mine around in a badger
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ForumPosterAlt
HERRO KITTY
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:54:00 -
[104]
Originally by: Takahashi Arran
Its disheartening how even in being fired the moderators are allowed to post nothing but thanks for the great times rather then having opinions themselves about whether this is a good idea or not. (well atleast on these forums. several have made their views very clear elsewhere)
You lose the ability to have a public opinion when you're in the game business.
If any of them are interested in getting another volunteer position, there is no choice but to show nothing but gratitude and grace, probably.
Imo many gamers NOT in the game industry have more influence over the direction of a game than some of the people building them, probably.
If an aspect of a game is flawed, unnecessary, or just fking sucks, gamers can say "hey, this fking sucks", while those working on the game can't, not to the people that get to make those decisions anyways, probably.
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GM Zhainius
Game Masters
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:54:00 -
[105]
Having worked both alongside the volunteer teams, and with them, I can say it has been an honor working with you.
I will buy you guys a beer at fanfest if you'll be there!
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Skellibjalla
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:55:00 -
[106]
Salute! Safe docking at the nearest station!
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Tsuki Kiyuu
Caldari
ISD Interstellar Correspondents
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Posted - 2007.08.21 22:59:00 -
[107]
Much love to Aurora and CRC for all the great work they've done over the years.
It's been a real pleasure working with you guys, and one I hope continues in some way or another for many years to come.
To Aurora in particular I just wanted to say:
All those events, all those stories you've created...they'll live on in the minds of the players and their characters, being recalled fondly and being used to build upon and influence their characters.
Don't think you have been killed.
What you guys have created will live on until the day the servers close and even longer.
All that hard work you put in to making great stories...these things simply don't vanish overnight. Remember that. In what you've created, there truly is something to be proud of, and something that will last.
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Popsikle
Minmatar
Re-Awakened Technologies Inc
Electus Matari
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:01:00 -
[108]
Edited by: Popsikle on 21/08/2007 23:01:34
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
I had a terrible time dealing with some of the forum moderators. As a moderator on another game system who's been at it longer than Eve's been in business, and who wrote many of the forum rules and helped establish many of the forum moderating policies, it was clear that there were fundamental failures in your system, both in its basic set of policies and its execution.
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Anyways, I really do hope CCP gets it right next time! Good luck. You need it!
Im goin to be that guy, that calls you out, and say bull**** to your whole post. Stop comparing eve to other games, there is no game that is like another, and there is no moderation rules and methods that works for all communities. On top of all that, you just seem like your making stuff up, and comparing apples to oranges.
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SEP LTJohonson
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:04:00 -
[109]
A few small things i forgot to say in my Original Post -
Firstly, thanks to all ISD that i have met up with, and been associated with for the last 1 1/2 years. You have all been great :) I hope you all achieve what your aiming for, and im sure those who this is aimed at know what i mean ;)
Secondly, a few personal mentions to corps i worked with... Firstly, PIE. Inc, Mordus Angels, and no doubt a few Pirates.... You guys were great when taking part in my events, even if you didnt know about it ;)
And Lastly, Aurora itself. Never have i met such a team that is both mad, yet brilliant. Joining this wonderful programme is deffo one of the better choices i made over the last year and a half, and given the chance, i would do it all over again.
Farewell Friends, im sure i will see you around somewhere in the universe.... ;)
Long Live the Legion...i mean, Memories!!!
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SEP Baramos
Minmatar
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:06:00 -
[110]
There's much I could say right now. I have been with AURORA for over a year and a half. In that time I was able to take part in something larger and better than I ever imagined. Some of my favorite moments were seeing the reaction of players after an event, as well at meeting players in real life at Gencon Indy 06/07 and GDC. I've never worked with such a talented group of people before, and I am sad that it has come to an end. Everyone in AURORA and ISD in general have been terrific to work with, and I'd especially like to thank Tanis and Gabriel for helping me when I was a new recruit, Galen and Nebulai for accepting me into the program in the first place, and you the players for allowing my work to be a part of your experience in EVE. I hope that it has been as fulfilling for you as it has been for me.
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IlluminatedOne
Amarr
Tycho Brahe Fan Club
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:09:00 -
[111]
I must say "thank you much" for all ISD people at in-game Help channel. Thanks for all your detailed answers on my (sometimes annoying) questions!
Fly safe...
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:17:00 -
[112]
/me bows respectfully.
Thank you all for the fine work you've done.
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SEP Kerren
Amarr
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:19:00 -
[113]
Edited by: SEP Kerren on 21/08/2007 23:20:55
Originally by: SEP LTJohonson
A few small things i forgot to say in my Original Post -
Firstly, thanks to all ISD that i have met up with, and been associated with for the last 1 1/2 years. You have all been great :) I hope you all achieve what your aiming for, and im sure those who this is aimed at know what i mean ;)
Secondly, a few personal mentions to corps i worked with... Firstly, PIE. Inc, Mordus Angels, and no doubt a few Pirates.... You guys were great when taking part in my events, even if you didnt know about it ;)And Lastly, Aurora itself. Never have i met such a team that is both mad, yet brilliant. Joining this wonderful programme is deffo one of the better choices i made over the last year and a half, and given the chance, i would do it all over again.
Farewell Friends, im sure i will see you around somewhere in the universe.... ;)
Long Live the Legion...i mean, Memories!!!
The Legion, pfft what a bunch of pansy boys, all glory to the Nation 
As my esteemed colleague stated, major props to the player community, without you our work would have been impossible.
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Nadarius Chrome
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:26:00 -
[114]
Originally by: Valorem
Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Countdown to massive ISK seller invasion and/or Asian buyout of CCP.
Don't bet on it.
Some of us are here for the time being to ensure that the forums stay clean and friendly
Which forums? We've already lost Buy/Sell/Trade. That was probably the most trafficked part. Other than the clownshow that is CAOD there's hardly anything left that requires moderating or is even worth visiting... |
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SEP CKang
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:27:00 -
[115]
Well, I am pretty disappointed that AURORA is being shut down as an event-running entity. For those wondering about current arcs, the people running them are being offered the chance to continue them and tie up the loose ends. So don't worry about that too much.
We ran events because we really loved adding to the fiction in EVE. From something as small as having the Amarr Navy interacting with smut peddlers in Amarr to having something 100+ CVA/PIE/VV/AM/other Amarr loyalists escorting my pompous Amarr Holders from low sec to high sec when I had no intention of having anyone attack them (PS... YOU GUYS HELPED THE EVIL[er] HOLDER WIN!) to watching a station constantly respawn after being blown up and lucky getting the Caldari Navy to chase you guys off before it respawned YET AGAIN. It was all fun and I will truly miss adding that sort of depth and immersion to the game.
Hopefully, in the future, we'll be able to bring you these sorts of events again. Your kind words are greatly appreciated, none-the-less.
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EP Kharnubis
Minmatar
ISD AURORA
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:31:00 -
[116]
Originally by: Tharrn
Oh crap. Aurora events were, in contrast to CCP events, usually fun. The 'events' and arcs devised by the Devs always looked like cruel jokes to tell the RPers 'you are nerds, we hate you'.
*sobs*
*hugs Tharrn*
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Wachtmeister
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:36:00 -
[117]
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: Valorem
Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Countdown to massive ISK seller invasion and/or Asian buyout of CCP.
Don't bet on it.
Some of us are here for the time being to ensure that the forums stay clean and friendly
Which forums? We've already lost Buy/Sell/Trade. That was probably the most trafficked part. Other than the clownshow that is CAOD there's hardly anything left that requires moderating or is even worth visiting...
Oh you don't wanna know what my young eyes sometimes have seen in General Discussion or Out of Pod Discussion.... I am spoiled for ages.. sexually, mentally and in all other ways possible.. ;)
Contrary to popular belief he actually has a body -Eldo
My body is well trained and I have a sixpack.... in the fridge. -Wachty
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Grismar
Gallente
The Establishment
Establishment
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:41:00 -
[118]
With or without formal ISD organization, you can rest assured many players (whether they're currently in ISD or not) will continue their volunteer work for the community :)
Forum moderation is another thing ofcourse, here's to hoping CCP gets something of similar quality in place without serious hickups.
Greetings,
Grismar.
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Onchas Erivvia
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:50:00 -
[119]
Originally by: Popsikle
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
I had a terrible time dealing with some of the forum moderators. As a moderator on another game system who's been at it longer than Eve's been in business, and who wrote many of the forum rules and helped establish many of the forum moderating policies, it was clear that there were fundamental failures in your system, both in its basic set of policies and its execution.
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Anyways, I really do hope CCP gets it right next time! Good luck. You need it!
Im goin to be that guy, that calls you out, and say bull**** to your whole post. Stop comparing eve to other games, there is no game that is like another, and there is no moderation rules and methods that works for all communities. On top of all that, you just seem like your making stuff up, and comparing apples to oranges.
There are other 24/7, persistent PvP games out on the market. Eve is, in many ways, just another skill template game. That doesn't make it WoW. But too many people fall for this, "Eve is pure PvP unlike anything else evah!" It's actually still kinda PvP-lite, but it's at least requires extensive knowledge of game mechanics and the equipment to be effective. The consequence is many people still confuse their templates for themselves, a phenomenon common in games like WoW and SWG that are "PvP", but with little actual game skill required. There are several 24/7, persistent simulators that are out there that require tremendous amounts of knowledge about tactics, equipment performance capabilities, and there ain't no skill templates to help you out. You either can kill, or you can't. They do have a different sort of forum dynamic in the sense that the top players and top forum personalities are usually people who can kill you straight up, no questions asked. It's really not anywhere near as far a stretch as people seem to think, but, of course, you'd have to experience those other game environments in depth to understand what you're talking about, and I think that gets to the crux of your argument.
The basic crux of what little actual argument that can be mined out of your response is that "no moderation rules or methods can work for all communities". That's true. No where did I claim otherwise. There are, however, basic principles and philosophies that apply. I've spoken in very basic terms. Or are you going to sit there and try to argue that an international game does not need to respect regional standards in interpersonal relationships, or something so basic as respecting posters for whom English is not their first language? Are you honestly going to take a ***** at the need for accountability? Or the importance of responsiveness to customer concerns?
This is the internet, credentials or experience aren't expected to carry the day, ideas and argument are. If you're going to call "bull****", fine, but give an actual counter-argument to the points made. "Eve's unique" followed up by a red herring comment doesn't contribute much of anything and certainly doesn't demonstrate that you've willing (or able) to engage the issues under consideration. Now, if you'd actually share some ideas and conceptions of your own and contribute productively to the discussion, now seems to be the time.
Anyways, my best regards to the moderators who were actually working to improve the system, who recognized its failings. Hopefully your feedback will be welcomed and you'll be able to positively contribute to the next version of the forum system. I know how thankless a job moderating is and how under-appreciated. Hopefully anyone who read my post did so carefully and noticed that my criticisms were clearly at CCP and your senior moderators and team lead, rather than the frontline guys who did the job they were given with little or no recognition and I suspect no where near enough appreciation.
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RedClaws
Amarr
Dragon's Rage
Intrepid Crossing
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:53:00 -
[120]
I'm kinda wondering here... It's all pretty confusing.
First: Why?
Second: 2 Mods for the entire forum? Thats going to be some serious work.
Thirdly: I'm guessing applying to ISD at the moment isn't really going to get me far. Is there ANY way I can volunteer to help in Eve now?
Seeing as the blog still mentions bughunting and translations how do I get involved with that?
And finally: While I only ever saw one event (in which I played a major part getting some documents to a nearby station) and while that event failed epically because I delivered the documents yet still failed in my mission, It is still sad to see something like this go.
It just doesn't make sense 
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Patch86
Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.21 23:55:00 -
[121]
Originally by: Nadarius Chrome
Originally by: Valorem
Originally by: Luigi Thirty
Countdown to massive ISK seller invasion and/or Asian buyout of CCP.
Don't bet on it.
Some of us are here for the time being to ensure that the forums stay clean and friendly
Which forums? We've already lost Buy/Sell/Trade. That was probably the most trafficked part. Other than the clownshow that is CAOD there's hardly anything left that requires moderating or is even worth visiting...
I just checked, and really shockingly, you're right. Sell Orders = 89736 topics, General Discussion (which I assumed was the most trafficked) = 77970
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Tsanse Kinske
WeMeanYouKnowHarm
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:09:00 -
[122]
Thanks for all the hard work, and I hope the joys of retirement outweigh by far the regrets. :)
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In the beginning the Universe was created. This has made a lot of people very angry and been widely regarded as a bad move.
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EA Tormau
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:29:00 -
[123]
I've only been in Aurora for about 6 months now, but that time has been fantastic for me. My heartfelt thanks go out to:
All the actors with whom I've had so many amusing and entertaining in-game, in-character interactions...
All the producers who take the time and effort to create deep, detailed, twisted, intriguing plot arcs...
All the senior producers who gave me mentoring, feedback, inspiration, and guidance when it was time to start creating my own events...
All the leads who suffered graciously through my innumerable mis-steps and questions...
Our esteemed Vice Admiral Galen, who spent incredible amounts of time setting up all of the characters, ships, and equipment such that we could interact with players in all sorts fo new and interesting ways...
And last but not least, to all of the players who interacted with us. We did everything for you guys, and it was very gratifying to see the kind of response we got from the people whom we touched over the course of our events.
In general, I think that the events team brought something unique and interesting to EVE that is unparalleled in the MMO world. It allowed players to interact with the setting on a much deeper level, and allowed players the opportunity to actually shape their surroundings in subtle yet sometimes surprisingly lasting ways. I'm proud to have been a part of that.
To all of my other ISD homies, I loved all of the inane chatter in IRC, all of the goofy stories, all of the strutting, chest-beating discussions about which division of ISD >>> all, the thought-provoking idea sessions, and hte opportunity to make friends with cool people from all over the world who share both a love and a vision for the world of EVE. You will all be sorely missed.
It's been a great ride, and I'm glad I was able to take part in it. Plus also, GALEN FOR EMPEROR!
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Admus
Mobius Construct
Knights Of the Southerncross
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:43:00 -
[124]
Well, I'm still confused. This is all rather vague. It seems like a purging and re-organizing. Hmm.
Thanks so much to all you terrific moderators, events coordinators, bug hunters, and other crazy ISD volunteers. I've only been round for a year and a bit, and I'm sad that I didn't become more involved in roleplay and events. I hope Eve will continue as well as you've made it under the new system.
Cheers!
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IonHammer
Minmatar
Black Avatar
Firmus Ixion
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:47:00 -
[125]
Good luck to all ISD folk.
It seems a bit tough but then hey hope you enjoy working on your next project.
Now for the love of god will some one resurect EVE-I
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Hon Kovell
Gallente
Neh'bu Kau Beh'Hude
Ushra'Khan
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:54:00 -
[126]
Why?
Are you trying to help us poor Eve addicts back to real life by making Eve more dull, more disappointing, or will there eventually be some small positive in killing off this part of Eve?
It's quite sad to see Eve become blander so I hope that Eve survives long enough to see something good come out of this.
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Yarod Cool
Team JAVELIN
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.22 00:56:00 -
[127]
Thanks AURORA. I enjoyed the events.
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Dungar Loghoth
Caldari
Black Omega Security
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.22 01:03:00 -
[128]
Probably for the best. You broke our trust time and again, and while I realize not everyone in ISD or Aurora were bad apples, there certainly were enough to spoil the bunch. But at least CCP is learning the same lesson every other MMO company has had to learn - that a volunteer events service will always wind up corrupt sooner or later. Hopefully CCP keep that in mind for whatever they decide to do to replace it.
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Gridcrash
Redline Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.22 01:10:00 -
[129]
Long ago, I was a member of a support team for another MMO. I recall the hard and often thankless work. I remember when the entire team was dragged through the mud by the players because of problems that we had no means of controlling. I remember getting "bad marks" from players because I wasn't able to give them the answer they wanted to hear.
Still, I kept at it. I would be surprised if my reasons were any different from any of yours. Love of the community, love of the game, and a burning desire to make a real difference.
Then there were the great days, when everyone seemed to be grateful for your help. The days when you watched a new player "get it", because of your help. The days when you saved an op for dozens of people by forcing the brain-dead quest mob to unstick. The days when every single petition seemed to go just right, and every single player seemed truly grateful for your assistance. The days when you overhear a couple of players talk about the great event they just attended.
Folks, let this be one of those days. Thank you for your selfless service!
On a slightly different note, maybe six months ago in Lonetrek a couple of you folks tried running an event where the plot was to destroy a merchant who was preventing grain shipments to a competing merchant's livestock...
Forgive me if I seemed uncooperative, but I really did enjoy the interaction, even though I think you folks thought I was being uncooperative. As a vegetarian, my perspective was completely different from what you were expecting. I admit, though, I did enjoy throwing you for a loop like that. No hard feelings? ;-)
Best regards,
Gridcrash
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Ductoris
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 01:50:00 -
[130]
I leave you with one bit of wisdom.
Don't let GD suck.
Thank you, its been a fun 2 years.
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Yipsilanti
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 01:54:00 -
[131]
Believe it or not I will actually miss all you forum jockeys
While it's sad to step away from the forums and something I've enjoyed for a while now, It's always a good feeling to watch the game, and the community grow.
Thank you to each and every one of my colleagues in the [CRC], I've learned a lot in my time with the team, and stayed up far too late on far too many nights keeping the community's forums from imploding, Thank you to the guys in Aurora who've put in the effort to keep producing events, and Thank you to everyone who's posted, spammed, whined, discussed, bought, sold, traded, trolled, and ranted on the forums.
It has been a pleasure ladies, gentlemen, and creatures not falling into those categories. Please continue to show the same respect for the new forum moderation and ISD staff that you have for us mods
Ohh... and I was posting In Limegreen long before anyone else thought it fashionable
ohh and one for the road: *Snip* Please be respectful of the other posters -Yipsilanti ([email protected]) <3
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Spawinte
The Templars Knights
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Posted - 2007.08.22 02:55:00 -
[132]
Sorry to the ISD guys, it must be hard for something like what you had to come to an end like this, but I think it had to be done.
The sheer lack of respect from a number of posters to CCP and their fellow players has turned these forums into a very difficult and unpleasant place to visit. Every thread getting bogged down in pointless posts and flaming does not count as "character". I look forward to the future improvements.
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DirtyHarry
Caldari
Reikoku
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.22 02:58:00 -
[133]
Thanks for the confirmation on who's modding the forum, however i will enjoy seeing 2 full timers trying to do the job of 50 or w/e volunteers.
Also I wonder if this could have anything to do with it :O
Somehow i missed that little gem, however i was lucky enough to have it shown by a friend tonight, good to know some ******* idiot is probably spamming all our emails to random 3rd party **** and insurance sites.
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Ashis
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.22 03:10:00 -
[134]
Positive direction for CCP; I'm surprised and impressed by the willingness to change this. It was needed. Thank you for taking steps to "plug this hole." Bughunters being relegated to localization and forum moderation being brought out of the hands of volunteers -- I'm speechless. Real, Positive, Change. Fantastic. The ramifications of this are as near-praise worthy as any change that has raised the accountability level in the past year.
Empathy and appreciation to those volunteers that gave their time and effort for nothing more then the betterment of the community. I hope that your willingness to contribute isn't at all stifled by a change in role. I'd imagine the best of you will hardly notice as you shift gears and become part of something even greater...
Huh... I'm almost optimistic? Don't tease me!
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Ramblin Man
Empyreum
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Posted - 2007.08.22 03:28:00 -
[135]
Tbph, it needed to be done. Just like Ole Yeller needed to be shot.
If I may put it obliquely, I intended to join AURORA at one point and then later backed off for almost precisely this reason (also to go volunteer in NoLa instead - which was probably a better use of time than internet spaceships, but I digress). Good fences make good neighbors, and the vol. dept. had way too few fences.
Here's thanking the volunteers who didn't succumb to corruption despite the lack of regulations and accountability (I'm sure you know who you are - and it is appreciated by all the players) and looking forward to a rebuilt, more professional events team.
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stormyfs911
Minmatar
Red Dwarf Mining Corporation
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Posted - 2007.08.22 03:51:00 -
[136]
I tried to join CRC twice, but the form kept timing out
To all the CRC that have had to put up with a rediculous amount of tinfoilhattery and generic spamming, and to all the AURORA that spent 6 months setting up a 5 minute shooting match, I wish you good luck in your future endeavours, whatever they may be.
PS: Does this mean we'll be seeing a Jita 4-4 smartbomb assault by Legatus frigs? 
PPS: I want some siggy love
we cant love your siggy if you're not displaying one :P <3 Yipsilanti
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Voculus
E X O D U S
Imperial Republic Of the North
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Posted - 2007.08.22 03:54:00 -
[137]
Finally. Now can we get some forum mods who aren't afraid to explain why they lock legitimate threads?
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Kyoko Sakoda
Caldari
Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.22 04:23:00 -
[138]
Haha, yes. I will always remember the magical reappearing station.
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Jurgen Cartis
Caldari
Interstellar Corporation of Exploration
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Posted - 2007.08.22 04:28:00 -
[139]
o7
You guys have been great, and I've considered trying to join you several times. Mainly backed out because I had things to do like program a robot (that was about as cooperative as the forums), or didn't think I had enough experience.
RIP ISD. . .
Was always fun reading a thread and realizing that there were half a dozen random mod posts in there, that had personality. Who is going to hijack our threads now?
That poor pair of professional mods you hire, they're going to need some serious reinforcements. . . And no, it won't be me who they require reinforcement to deal with.
Last chance to hijack my sig!
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ZiTek
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Posted - 2007.08.22 04:50:00 -
[140]
as unhappy i am with the level of moderation on the forums here, i'm happy to see that CCP not only uses it's customers as playthings but now also people working hard to try to ensure some kind of quality.
PS : Does this mean that all BoB volunteers are now upgraded to staff ?
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Athelas Loraiel
Amarr
Celestial Horizon Corp.
Valainaloce
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Posted - 2007.08.22 05:09:00 -
[141]
Why?
Can you explain why?
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 05:16:00 -
[142]
There's one other thing I'd like to add. I've been privileged to be a member of the CRC squad responsible for moderating the roleplay forums (Intergalactic Summit and Corporations and Alliances Summit), reporting to Eshtir (O Captain my Captain!) and learning from Timmeh.
This goes out to the RP crowd: It has been my great honor to be put in a position of managing the forums you pour so much energy and vitality into. You guys made me laugh, spew coffee (and beer), and once or twice even got me misty-eyed.
In a game that doesn't tend to respect RP as much as it should, you do amazing stuff that is always entertaining and engaging.
I salute every one of you who bring such a fun aspect of background and immersion to this game, and thank you for a great time.
forum rules | [email protected] | Our Website
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Jastra
Gallente
Core Domination
Big Bang Quantum
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Posted - 2007.08.22 06:20:00 -
[143]
I can honestly say I feel that a large portion of EVE OnlineÆs success has been a result of the efforts of this fine group of players.
TThe Forum Moderation and the Events teams will be placed on hiatus as we take time to evaluate processes and procedures for the betterment of the EVE CommunityÆs play experience. ...ummm...ok, that makes sense then
So, so long and thanks for all the fish then ?
Was yesterday debacle over the Sell order forums just a good day to bury other bad news?
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 06:45:00 -
[144]
Moderating the RP forums was fun, although they tend to give a headache when someone launches into a long winded speech.
Always wanted to say to those posts "tl;dr"!!!
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Malarki X
Caldari
Ad Astra Vexillum
Brutally Clever Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.22 07:05:00 -
[145]
All good things must come to an end ...
You were here to greet me in Rookie chanell the day I started. Helped me get on my own two feet and fly.
You were here to prevent forum trolls from destroying what is now known as good EVE - O forum.
Mostly for helping me on those first days - I thank you and wish you good luck in future, what ever it may be.
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Segge Bolled
Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Posted - 2007.08.22 07:08:00 -
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Originally by: CCP kieron
Some volunteers will be retained to assist with fiction and out of game means to promote RP and assist with Factional Warfare.
I should certainly hope so. It'd be a pity for the EVE Community to lose this creative immersion into the EVE universe.
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Gallente
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Posted - 2007.08.22 07:15:00 -
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Sorry to see you go. I appreciated your work.
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Ailay
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 07:26:00 -
[148]
About one and a half years ago i applied to Aurora. After i got accepted and got thrown into the pit that was called Aurora i did not know what to expect. What i experienced in there was something i could not have imagined. The people involved in Aurora and for that matter ISD, were something so unique one could not know unless having experienced by themselves.
I take with me my memories about the fun we had in the channels. The immense fun i had when acting and even more when producing. I take with me the memories about the players who interacted in my events and the compliments given afterwards. ThatÆs what we did it for. To enhance your game experience.
Despite the fact that the closure of Aurora saddens me dearly I still like to show my gratitude towards CCP. After all, they did provide us with the sand we needed to build our little castles.
I thank all ISD as they are really a great bunch of people and nothing but respect to everyone who was there to help make EVE better. I know it hasnÆt been easy sometimes.
A special thanks to Nebulai and Galen. My fellow captains and the devÆs I have had the pleasure to work with.
Respect!
Ailay
Captain, ISD Aurora (for life!)
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General Apocalypse
Amarr
The Merchant Marines
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Posted - 2007.08.22 07:29:00 -
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Dam who will mod the forums now ? Sad to see you guys go .
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Broska
coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 08:32:00 -
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Does this mean HippoKing will be unbanned and you'll re-work the stupid 10 warnings and perm ban system?
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Mr Friendly
That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:00:00 -
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Edited by: Mr Friendly on 22/08/2007 09:02:34
Well, a typically opaque and 'bolt-from-the-blue' post from CCP. Not sure what to think, tbh.
To the Mods: great job. I especially like the personal touches like signing sigs, hijacking threads (when it was appropriate) and mercilessly crushing threads that got out of hand. Good job.
edit: don't apply to SHC, you'd go bug-eyed without the profanity filter ;P
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:07:00 -
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This truly has been quite a ride in the past several months, although I haven't been around to see some of the more insane forum malfunctions. I have seen enough to know that what we have become a part of, is more than a group of people performing a duty. We have found ourselves in more than a couple difficult situations but have always managed to come through with some amount of grace and dignity (at least as much as we went into it with.)
Originally by: Takahashi Arran
Its disheartening how even in being fired the moderators are allowed to post nothing but thanks for the great times rather then having opinions themselves about whether this is a good idea or not. (well atleast on these forums. several have made their views very clear elsewhere)
I really feel bad about this, we do have opinions about this change, and it's not that we're excluding our thoughts about the changes happening but that we're posting what we feel is right at the moment. I personally have not met a more insanely wonderful group of people, the likes of which have posted a *snip* or a *click* on the forums here. We did this "job" not because of a desire to talk to Dev's or GM's, we did it out of a desire to help a great community of people, and improve a game that we enjoy.
Over the past 6 months or so, I have seen IA interventions, threadnoughts, and days where more than a couple mods forgot to take 2 of the yellow pills and 1 of the blue. Even a few moments where I was nearly ripping my hair out in frustration, but even with the hardships I wouldn't trade this experience for the world. We started out as players, then became volunteers, followed by forum moderators/event participants, then somehow evolved into a brotherhood. To my brothers (and sisters) who have given your time and effort to making this game what it is today... I salute you.
/me silently stands at attention saluting through the rain and toward the dawning sun.
Please refrain from sniffling on the forums, it disturbs the other posters. -Darth Patches
Don't let yourselves forget about us, we won't ever forget about you.
Darth Patches, signing off.
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That it Should Come to This
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:23:00 -
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Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
well written stuff
You do realize you've said only: CCP, you suck, I know better, you don't know what you've done, and I do?
Mind giving CCP and us some examples? I can't read minds and I don't think CCP can either.
Clearly you're able to express yourself eloquently; perhaps this time you could express yourself evidentially?
cheers
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ammargal
Amarr
D00M.
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:27:00 -
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It's a damned shame to see such a wonderful group of people being 'kicked' out all of a sudden. What you have done has been invaluable to the Eve community, you worked so hard even though you were all volunteers...
It is indeed a sad day in Eve...
To all members of ISD, Good Luck with whatever you decide to do
Ammargal
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Minmatar
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Posted - 2007.08.22 09:36:00 -
[155]
Originally by: ammargal
It's a damned shame to see such a wonderful group of people being 'kicked' out all of a sudden. What you have done has been invaluable to the Eve community, you worked so hard even though you were all volunteers...
It is indeed a sad day in Eve...
To all members of ISD, Good Luck with whatever you decide to do
Ammargal
What you fail to note is that the volunteer program is not without issues which is why some customers are happy to see that CCP is growing up.
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Amarr
PIE Inc.
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This is sad, atleast I can't see why I should be happy about it yet. I guess it all has something to do with the massive whining about ISD/Aurora of usually uninformed people spitting it out, ofcourse a few things went terribly wrong back then, but still, most people there really didn't know what they were talking about. It seems to me CCP wants to look more proffesional, which I can understand, some posts posted by moderators here on these forums made me frown a bit. But at the same time, I like it, it's a lot more 'down to earth' and human than moderators/community-managers of other MMO's that often look like robots.
And Aurora. I was playing this game for just a couple of weeks until I suddenly got involved in the whole Brother Joshua/Speakers of Truth storyline. It was breathtaking for someone like me that just came from the static world of warcraft and didn't even know this stuff happened in Eve. It was one of those things that made me decide that I'll be playing this game for the next couple of years. Unlike in most other MMO's, GM-lead ingame events work very well in an unsharded world as Eve. While you can never 'act' all the npc factions realisticly, it adds a lot to the world. You don't directly have to be involved. What I love in Eve is that the storyline actually progresses and that when you read one of the newsarticles, you actually - know - it isn't some made-up story and that it actually really happened ingame. And at the same time you know that quite a lot might be happening in the background, some things you'll never know everything about. I know we with PIE tried to keep the Brother Joshua escorts secret and were told to not talk about it with others (until a certain member couldn't keep her mouth shut when a ISD reporter came in our public channel with questions about it haha! And that news-article resulted in Star Fraction paying some more attention to it).
But this stuff is what lets you immerse in the world and make Eve appear to be dynamic world (and except for most of 0.0 it isn't that dynamic). I know a lot of the people outside the RP corporations still love being part of an immersive world and Aurora added to that. I'm sure a lot of people love reading those news-articles even when they aren't involved. I'd love to see more of the news and I think it'd be a good thing if CCP could manage to publish 3 articles a week on avarage or something like that.
I also think that volunteers in a game like Eve work very well and I really don't believe that paid employees are that much better. You do need to monitor these volunteers heavily and not give them too much tools, ofcourse. But passionate people helping to improve the game we all love for free, what's against that? Ah well, I hope the replacements will be good.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:25:00 -
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/08/2007 10:26:41
Originally by: Darth Patches
I really feel bad about this, we do have opinions about this change, and it's not that we're excluding our thoughts about the changes happening but that we're posting what we feel is right at the moment.
Well, from my perspective, the events during the last 24 hours was two large shocks. One was the apparent knee jerk reaction of just closing the Sale Order channel with no explanation why. Then while players were rabbling on about that and feeling sad and angry, the ISD starts saying goodbye, again with hardly any explanation why.
Ive never been on the side of the people who think ccp dont communicate, but I really hope the last 24 hours is not a sign of what is to come. Im basically an official fan boi of the game and the way its being run, but I will always speak my mind on the things I think is badly handled. But is anyone listening anymore?
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You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Gallente
Neuronal Loneliness
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:37:00 -
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Thanks volunteers ;)
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:41:00 -
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Salutes and gratitude to the vol team and all their efforts. Humanities' finest that gathered in there.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:42:00 -
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I would like to thank all the volunteers for their years of service and dedication.
o7 Salute to you.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:43:00 -
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It is safe to say that without volunteer work EVE wouldn't be were it is at now and will continue to benefit from it in the new volunteer program.
For those that are directly affected by the change, I want to thank you for your outstanding job and contribution to the game.
Cheers,
4P
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:52:00 -
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It's safe to say that without volunteer work I wouldn't be where I am now
o7
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:53:00 -
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I have worked very closely with AURORA since I started here and before that I used to be in AURORA so I am very sad at this news. Both teams have done an amazing job, giving up their spare time to support, improve and immerse people in EVE Online.
Its a tough job doing events, its hard work, EVE fiction is so deep that it requires extensive knowledge to work within it to any realistic degree. But when players are immersed in a story and run with it, then its very rewarding.
But this is not the end people, we have a dream!
ôWar is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö
Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum
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Sniggerdly
Pandemic Legion
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Posted - 2007.08.22 10:55:00 -
[164]
TBH, I won't even notice this change.
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 11:35:00 -
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Originally by: Athelas Loraiel
Why?
Can you explain why?
Don't expect an answer to that. I asked like on page 2 - I'm not expecting any more detail on the matter because it seems CCP don't want ot reveal the reason for this change (and I mean the REAL reason)
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Posted - 2007.08.22 11:39:00 -
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Having started off as a bughunter about 3 and a half years ago, I have seen many changes to ISD both as a bughunter, and in working with various ISD teams as a member of QA. TIt saddens me to see people I have come to know in that time have to go through this transition.
That said, in the last 2 years since I have joined CCP, I have watched the company grow from 45 people to around 230, and the peak players change from around 15,000 to well over 34,000. Through it all, the volunteer teams have changed little. I consider it inevitable that a reorganisation should occur.
To all you fine people in ISD, past present and future, you have my gratitude and respect for the time you have given to EVE.
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Gallente
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 12:11:00 -
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How do you start a post like this?
It's been a true privilage to be a member of the AURORA team. I've learned a huge ammount about RP and how to do it well, both from my friends in the team and from experience with you the players.
I want to thank all of the players who've interacted with us in the events that we run for you. No matter what the outcome of the event it was the interaction with you that made it work.
I want to thank all of the people in AURORA for their support and encouragement when I first joined over a year ago now. The producers for comming up with fantastic arcs and events and my fellow actors for all the fun in IRC. Special mentions go to Nebulai and Galen for their tireless efforts on behalf of the team.
I'd like to thank the other teams in ISD for their efforts that helpped bring the game forward for everyone.
Finally I'd like to thank CCP for running the volunteer program.
AURORA for life, Galen for Emperor!
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Corpus PCG
The State
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Edited by: Selene Fenestre on 22/08/2007 12:30:27
While never having had the honour of being modded by you guys, I really appreciate the time and effort you have given the game and its community.
I would also like to personally apologise to Deckard Bishop for the time I drunkenly tried to proposition him in a thread. (Not that he noticed. Men, eh?)
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Onchas Erivvia
Black Eclipse Corp
Band of Brothers
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Posted - 2007.08.22 12:43:00 -
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Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 22/08/2007 12:43:31
Originally by: Mr Friendly
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
well written stuff
You do realize you've said only: CCP, you suck, I know better, you don't know what you've done, and I do?
Mind giving CCP and us some examples? I can't read minds and I don't think CCP can either.
Clearly you're able to express yourself eloquently; perhaps this time you could express yourself evidentially?
cheers
To what end and to who's benefit? Spending 10 minutes on two forum posts (now 3 for 10.5) is one thing, but I'm not wasting a large chunk of my time writing up something long and drawn out that will likely just fall on deaf ears. Besides, I have provided them clearly with a couple of illustrations of issues through other correspondence. Their problems, however, aren't going to be resolved in a couple of forum posts.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 12:54:00 -
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This is a great move CCP. Allowing volunteers to have power over your paying customers has never been a good idea. It just creates accusations of favoritism, and other controversy. I for one welcome our new in-house overlords.
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Caldari
Veto.
Veto Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.22 12:56:00 -
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So now that RP has been totally shut down CCP side I guess this spells the end of roleplay and any CCP run events.
You can't close Sell/Buy forums yet but I guess you have the privilidge of closing down the intergalactic summit.
Nice one guys.
To all ISD, sad to see you go, even if we did have our disagreements.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 13:07:00 -
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We are the music-makers,
And we are the dreamers of dreams,
Wandering by lone sea-breakers,
And sitting by desolate streams;
World-losers and world-forsakers,
On whom the pale moon gleams:
Yet we are the movers and shakers
Of the world for ever, it seems.
With wonderful deathless ditties
We build up the world's great cities,
And out of a fabulous story
We fashion an empire's glory:
One man with a dream, at pleasure,
Shall go forth and conquer a crown;
And three with a new song's measure
Can trample an empire down.
We, in the ages lying
In the buried past of the earth,
Built Nineveh with our sighing,
And Babel itself with our mirth;
And o'erthrew them with prophesying
To the old of the new world's worth;
For each age is a dream that is dying,
Or one that is coming to birth.
Ode - Arthur O'Shaughnessy
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Minmatar
Wayward Brewing
Fallen Souls
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Edited by: brakespear on 22/08/2007 13:37:21
Thank you for all your efforts in the past and ggod luck for your futures, whatever they may be
o7
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DarkStar 1
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By reading this thread and the original Blog i came to the conclusion that ISD and AURORA volonteers have been fired and that some of them may get an opportunity to do something later...
Something will happen soon(tm) that will be absolutely awesome for someone.
I am sorry, but I am not too impressed by the clarity of this announcement, i may be dyslexic and challanged in some way that has made me completely miss the point here, but to me this is not a good idea, since it seems a bit lagging in the plan department.
I am VERY gratefull to all the volonteers in eve, it has given the game flavour and soul in soo many ways. I realize that not all volonteers have been well behaved all the time, but that, to me, is an acceptable cost to ensure diversity, fyn and crazy stuff... which i love :)
What i fear most of all is CCP becomming a slick organization where everything is decided by groups of professionals that makes sure that NO mistakes is done... ever. Organizations that work that way have a tendency to become booring and predicable... Please someone from CCP... Flame me and tell me that you will still do all the crazy stuff i have come to expect from icelandic ppl :)
If someone in CCP management starts talking about making Eve more main stream and wants to "leverage processes to implement a wider public audience appeal in the main assets consisting of the customorbase currently installed in the main server clusters therby increasing the cashflow potential of the organization".... It simply means they want to make eve more booring and predicable... the direct response by you (dear dev's), is to tell them that you will work dilligently to achieve the visionary and amazing goal.... after which you all go ignore them totally and key their ferrari for good measure :)
I love eve because it is a crazy place where dogs eat dogs and where everything can happen...
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Edited by: Ductoris on 22/08/2007 14:12:53
Originally by: Takahashi Arran
Its disheartening how even in being fired the moderators are allowed to post nothing but thanks for the great times rather then having opinions themselves about whether this is a good idea or not. (well at least on these forums. several have made their views very clear elsewhere)
TBH almost all of us disagree and think it's a bad move.
The problem is the discussion is done already, CRC will be going away. Coming here and posting about how much we disagree isn't going to matter.
Every day I've gotten home from work, sat down at this computer and opened IRC and always been greeted by friends. This change meant that my friends and I won't be able to do what we wanted to do when we signed up for CRC, help the forums. That hurts. 50 posts about how much this sucks won't do anything, taking the chance to say our goodbyes and wish everyone well is the most useful thing we can do.
Or if you want I can post "this sucks" 50 times in a massive quote pyramid?
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Caldari
Agony Unleashed
Agony Empire
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Originally by: Ductoris
50 posts about how much this sucks won't do anything
Well, we tend to think they're not shutting the buy/sell forums just yet because of us having done it, right?
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Caldari
Trinity Nova
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Posted - 2007.08.22 14:52:00 -
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Absolutely nuts
Much respect to the volunteers, you had a dirty job and for the most part I believe did it well and selflessly. o7
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Cerwyn Taraman
Minmatar
Phoenix Tech Industries
Apoapsis Multiversal Consortium
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I just wanted to throw my salute to the ISD teams in general, but especially to Aurora. Having worked in volunteering for games before, I know just how time consuming and difficult it can be for what is mostly a thankless job - since nobody knows who you are.
You all have done a fantastic job these last few years and I will be saddened to see you go. /me salutes Nebulai for the years of hard work he has put in with the ISD program and also Galen for all of the time he has spent as well making Eve a better, more interactive place.
Good luck with your future endeavors and hopefully we will see Aurora come back in some way, shape, or form at some point in the future.
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X-Factor Industries
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Originally by: Ductoris
TBH almost all of us disagree and think it's a bad move.
The problem is the discussion is done already, CRC will be going away. Coming here and posting about how much we disagree isn't going to matter.
It's sad that people who have given so much of their time to this community have been cast out. I really hope that this has been handled internally with more sensitivity than is visible from the vague descriptions of the dev blog.
There is a stark contrast between the way in which CRC and AURORA have been ejected and the speed at which Wrangler directed people to a Chribba-supported forum following CCP's closure of the trading forums. Are supporters of the community valued or not? I'm sure the answer is yes, but the events of the last 24 hours have done little to give that impression.
I hope the folks of CRC and AURORA will accept my thanks, on behalf of X-Factor Industries, for their dedication in supporting EVE and providing a lot of enjoyment for a great many people.
I'm sure Entity would be happy to put up a big commemorative sign made of Giant Secure Containers when he gets the time!
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Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/08/2007 16:58:40
This whole thing keeps annoying me. Its been a day now and I still get angry when reading how this was handled. It wouldnt surprise me if there was 0 communication with ISD at all prior to this. Just a "thanks and bye" with no reason given.
Of course I dont know this because nobody has the guts to tell it like it was.
Thanks to kieron for answering the questions in the first post though. Thats at least something.
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You're not supposed to feel like you're logging in to a happy, happy, fluffy, fluffy lala land filled with fun and adventures, thats what hello kitty online is for.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 17:00:00 -
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Originally by: Segge Bolled
Originally by: Ductoris
50 posts about how much this sucks won't do anything
Well, we tend to think they're not shutting the buy/sell forums just yet because of us having done it, right?
Good point.
I need to code some spambot software.......
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Wizzkidy
Demonic Retribution
Pure.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 17:08:00 -
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Originally by: Jim McGregor
Edited by: Jim McGregor on 22/08/2007 16:58:40
This whole thing keeps annoying me. Its been a day now and I still get angry when reading how this was handled. It wouldnt surprise me if there was 0 communication with ISD at all prior to this. Just a "thanks and bye" with no reason given.
Of course I dont know this because nobody has the guts to tell it like it was.
Thanks to kieron for answering the questions in the first post though. Thats at least something.
Jim,
I'm in the same boat as you, I'm a fan boi of this game/company but with the things that have happend recently I do feel CCP are hinding something in the background on this desition
As I stated in another thread if CCP keep hiding things and not being honest to there customer people WILL start leaving this game. (and some have already)
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 17:34:00 -
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I actualy forgot, shame on me, to say a huge thank you into the direction of the RP'ers that populate the summits and the Library.
I, and my team enjoyed the good storys, the war reports, the rising tensions between factions. You guys are populating EvE and make her breath, please just dont stop.
/me bows.
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ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 18:14:00 -
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Well... itÆs been fun.
EVE has been a huge part of my life ever since I signed up for my 14 day trial over two years ago. As the game began to wind down for me I heard about ISD and the plans for factional warfare on the horizon. I just knew I had to get in on that.
So after months of waiting on paperwork to be approved, and weeks of learning the ins and outs of being an event actor through our training program, It was actually a year ago this Monday, August 20th that I took part in my very first event.
It was a small role with very little acting involved, but through the player support in that event my producer was able to turn it into a full blown arc culminating in the testing of an experimental jump drive that went oh so wrong, scattering the test pilots to the ends of the universe.
I probably would never have stuck with EVE as long as I have if it wasn't for the sheer excitement of the events and kooky and always unpredictable things players did which helped us drive them forward.
So rather than cry and whine about not being able to do events in an official capacity anymore, I would first and foremost like to thank youthe players.
Events could not (and sometimes didn't) happen without you all. Every time I got online an hour in advance to get briefed on the characters and their motivations for the upcoming event, I would find myself with a stupid grin plastered on my face wondering what you would throw our way next.
Once again, thanks to all the players who participated in our events.
It's been great flying with you (and even sometimes against you). Its you all that make the game what it is, not us.
I hope many of you will take it on yourselves to try and enrich the universe with enjoyable events in our absence.
Oh darn... I don't have a sig. Might as well hijack one.
Sorry Eris♥
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Omerta Syndicate
Exuro Mortis
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You guys rocked. It's gonna be all weird and icky silences now.
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Posted - 2007.08.22 18:59:00 -
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Thank you for your time and effort, I hope the time in ISD has been enjoyable for every one of you.
Fly safe and enjoy EVE!
Regards,
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ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.22 19:34:00 -
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Reading all the comments here made me realise something.
I like you all to remember that it was not just Aurora, nore just CRC or any other ISD department that made it all happen.
The Roleplay in EVE is done by YOU! We just helped a bit here and there. Yes, we did have a blast providing stories to interact with, but in the end it was you who did the roleplay.
So i wonder, why stop? Ok, we will not be around anymore to present you our crazy idea's and such, but you could do it yourself.
I hereby call to the entire playerbase who care for Roleplay to keep going. Spam the forums with RP stories, create characters who just spam local with tales and stories and bring EVE to life!
It would honour us all the most, if the RP continues... please, do not stop the roleplay.
Ailay
Captain, ISD Aurora (For Life!)
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APEX Conglomerate
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Sad day
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That it Should Come to This
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Edited by: Mr Friendly on 22/08/2007 20:15:19
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
Edited by: Onchas Erivvia on 22/08/2007 12:43:31
Originally by: Mr Friendly
Originally by: Onchas Erivvia
well written stuff
You do realize you've said only: CCP, you suck, I know better, you don't know what you've done, and I do?
Mind giving CCP and us some examples? I can't read minds and I don't think CCP can either.
Clearly you're able to express yourself eloquently; perhaps this time you could express yourself evidentially?
cheers
To what end and to who's benefit? Spending 10 minutes on two forum posts (now 3 for 10.5) is one thing, but I'm not wasting a large chunk of my time writing up something long and drawn out that will likely just fall on deaf ears. Besides, I have provided them clearly with a couple of illustrations of issues through other correspondence. Their problems, however, aren't going to be resolved in a couple of forum posts.
Good lord, then why did you bother to post on a public forum with such verbiage, rather than just saying "about time;good riddance"?
Odd to say the least.
Anyways, kudos again to the Mods. You gave your time for free to a game you loved. 'Grats.
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Hrmm... google
dichotomy between 'pubbie' and 'goon'
hrmm...
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Posted - 2007.08.22 23:33:00 -
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Thank you all for the time and dedication you have given to our beautiful EVE.
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Coreli Corporation
Exuro Mortis
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Posted - 2007.08.23 00:48:00 -
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Many thanks for all the time the volunteers have put into the game since I started, but, for the love of god, please come back already! have you read CAOD this evening?
Dev's, how about you introduce a one new thread per day, and ONE post per thread per day limit on all of us.. it might make people think about what and when they will post.
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Caldari
GoonSwarm
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Posted - 2007.08.23 03:37:00 -
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I will remember fondly my first Aurora event I saw, where 2 "odd coloured text players" were battling it out both in local and with each other. Had a blast seeing all the t2 stuff I couldn't use just yet sitting it those wrecks, and I managed to scoop some too.
Tried to participate in the Caldari subversives' "overthrow the government" plot line, but after a single event, never heard anything else from the story arc after an aborted attempt to kill a Caldari navy carrier. I'm hoping this isn't the end of such player involvement.
I may have had my beef with some of the corporate level decisions made by CCP in the past, but the work that ISD did to both enlighten players and highlight the neat aspects of this game was one of the better things that were done to enrich the game atmosphere. My salute to ISD on many jobs well done.
Question: Since so many volunteers are being put on hiatus/moved around, does this mean the volunteer positions will be closed for the near future?
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Vale Heavy Industries
Molotov Coalition
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Posted - 2007.08.23 05:25:00 -
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So...who are your mains?
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Yipsilanti
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 05:33:00 -
[195]
That you will never know...
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Interstellar Services Department
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Originally by: Kirex
So...who are your mains?
According to our IRC channel, half of us are either SirMolle, Seleene, Remedial or all three at the same time. I think I saw four Dark Shikaris, too.
My main of course is Kieron, which means that I just fired myself. Bet you didn't see that one coming, eh?
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ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Originally by: Kirex
So...who are your mains?
You mean you didn't you know we are all the very highest ranking BoB-haxed-alliance-devs with tinfoil penetrating mind control?
Honestly though, we all like to keep our mains completely seperate from anything ISD related. I suspect that'll continue to be that way.
Next time you see someone talking in local in character... maybe play along with it.
Its up to the masses now if you want events, We gotta keep the game interesting somehow ya know?
Oh darn... I don't have a sig. Might as well hijack one.
Sorry Eris♥
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 07:39:00 -
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Actually... I am a bit shocked that no one posted it yet...
"Can I have your stuff?"
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Posted - 2007.08.23 07:48:00 -
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Originally by: EA Kekipi
Originally by: Kirex
So...who are your mains?
You mean you didn't you know we are all the very highest ranking BoB-haxed-alliance-devs with tinfoil penetrating mind control?
Honestly though, we all like to keep our mains completely seperate from anything ISD related. I suspect that'll continue to be that way.
Next time you see someone talking in local in character... maybe play along with it.
Its up to the masses now if you want events, We gotta keep the game interesting somehow ya know?
Dude... I wouldn't even joke about stuff like that.
After all thats gone down with ISD, there are some extremely bitter eve folk, and what you may say in jest many players are still very angry and distrustful about.
In fact I wouldn't be surprised if past shenanigans is the reason that aurora is being nuked.
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Amarr
Stark Industries
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shame the Events team is going away. I was hoping to be able to get into one of those sometime, but just never could catch one :-(.. Here's to hoping we'll get event in the future and some sort of ISD events team.. <3 u guys!
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Posted - 2007.08.23 09:28:00 -
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Originally by: Ailay
I hereby call to the entire playerbase who care for Roleplay to keep going. Spam the forums with RP stories, create characters who just spam local with tales and stories and bring EVE to life!
It would honour us all the most, if the RP continues... please, do not stop the roleplay.
Consider it done
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 11:00:00 -
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what do i write here?
it has been a honour and a privilege to work with ISD and CRC and the rest of the community.
i will be sad to see so many friends leave with the upcoming changes....
but you are not getting rid of me yet!!
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Originally by: Wachtmeister
Actually... I am a bit shocked that no one posted it yet...
"Can I have your stuff?"
I would ask you for your stuff, but I see from your avatar that someone stripped you from the neck down anyway!
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Posted - 2007.08.23 12:57:00 -
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Edited by: EA Dantac on 23/08/2007 13:03:25
In the time I've been part of Aurora I've had an amazing time helping with many events that I have thoroughly enjoyed. Much <3 and thanks to the producers, senior producers and leads for making it happen and to actors and all for everything.
Not to forget, thankyou to you guys who we ran events for. You made it all worthwhile, even if you don't know the difference between teal and blue :) Thankyou to each and every single person who participated in an event. They were for you guys, and it was a pleasure to be part of it.
As many of the guys and gals I've had the pleasure of working with have already said, do not let RP die. Please! As players we must and we will keep it going. It is part of Eve and part of what makes this game what it is. Don't let it die!
Oh, and GALEN FOR EMPEROR!
Dantac
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Amarr
Bloodveil
The Sani Sabik
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Originally by: EA Dantac
...As many of the guys and gals I've had the pleasure of working with have already said, do not let RP die. Please! As players we must and we will keep it going. It is part of Eve and part of what makes this game what it is. Don't let it die!
Oh, and GALEN FOR EMPEROR!
Dantac
--Event Actor
We will do out part!
A big hug from the eccentric lunatic Sani Sabik to all of you! thanks!
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Amarr
Information Retrieval
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I have had the pleasure to have interacted with many of you through my long years within Eve. Thank you so very much for making it what it has been for me. I hope nothing but the best for all of you.
Sincerely.
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Caldari
Pyrrhus Sicarii
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Obviously no one outside of ISD knows exactly how all this went down or how it was presented to them, but I REALLY hope CCP has not alienated their volunteers. When people care so much to put up with so much **** like the mods/ISD team do, ****ting all over them would be a sign of the worst kind of corporate apathy. That being said, something obviously needed to change with the forums, as they are completely out of control lately. So I hope whatever ends up happening makes this a better place to hang out, or more and more people will just find other communities in which to discuss eve.
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Esthar Industries
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Posted - 2007.08.23 16:38:00 -
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many thanks for the volunteers' work. i wish i could have been amongst you. but nobody seems to have read my application..
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Crausaum
Ixion Defence Systems
The Cyrene Initiative
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Posted - 2007.08.23 17:31:00 -
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Well thanks to the volunteers for all the events you put on.
You did a very good job for being volunteers working with limited options for how your events were allowed to effect the game.
I just really hope CCP doesn't think that the players in EVE will be entertained by reading about the struggles of factions in EVE yet knowing that nothing ingame ever happened to support that piece of fiction.
That just seems really lame.
I hope everything works out here but it sounds like EVE could be a lot less entertaining without the volunteer teams...
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 19:13:00 -
[210]
AURORA CAN I HAVE YOUR STUFF!!!!
That had to be said
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Posted - 2007.08.23 19:25:00 -
[211]
Originally by: hango
Originally by: Kirex
So...who are your mains?
According to our IRC channel, half of us are either SirMolle, Seleene, Remedial or all three at the same time. I think I saw four Dark Shikaris, too.
My main of course is Kieron, which means that I just fired myself. Bet you didn't see that one coming, eh?
No
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db preacher
really.
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Gallente
TAKAGI Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.23 19:46:00 -
[212]
Can we have reinsurance please that the RP side of Eve won't fade away with the withdrawal of Aurora team ?
We founded our corp entirely on that purpose. Should we dismantle it now ?
PiF,
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Posted - 2007.08.23 21:14:00 -
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Good riddance
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hango
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 21:34:00 -
[214]
Quote:
Good riddance
I know you were told to post this, but couldn't you at least have paraphrased it? I mean come on, man! Take some pride in your gloating!
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Minmatar
ISD AURORA
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 21:52:00 -
[215]
Originally by: PiF
Can we have reinsurance please that the RP side of Eve won't fade away with the withdrawal of Aurora team ?
We founded our corp entirely on that purpose. Should we dismantle it now ?
RP will never fade so long as there are players willing to RP. Without players and corporations who RP on various levels in different ways, AURORA would not have been able to be as good as it was. Remember, it's the players that make EVE what it is.
EVE(RP) never fades.
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Amarr
Ordo Quaesitoris
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Posted - 2007.08.23 21:59:00 -
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Thank you. Deeply.
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Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.23 22:48:00 -
[217]
Originally by: Eldo Davip
Originally by: hango
Originally by: Kirex
So...who are your mains?
According to our IRC channel, half of us are either SirMolle, Seleene, Remedial or all three at the same time. I think I saw four Dark Shikaris, too.
My main of course is Kieron, which means that I just fired myself. Bet you didn't see that one coming, eh?
No
I'm
db preacher
really.
-dbp
I ROFL'd
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Red Gabba
M. Corp
M. PIRE
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Posted - 2007.08.23 23:42:00 -
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what to say
Ive always supported the mod team and at some stage would have liked to have worked along side them, but alas that is not to be now.
Wish all that are leaving ISD the best of luck
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coracao ardente
Triumvirate.
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Edited by: Dave White on 24/08/2007 00:52:38
Thank you, volunteers.
Will miss Hutch and the other forum mods
Originally by: GM Tacgnol
Oveur descended from the heavens (also known as the second floor) and beat us all with his nerfbat.
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Zenithal Harvest
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Posted - 2007.08.24 00:59:00 -
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This sounds like a sad turn of events. I will miss you guys. You never moderated me wrong, and every thread of mine you closed and every post you deleted was well deserved.
You did a good job, ISD, and this makes me :(
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Gallente
Federal Navy Academy
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Posted - 2007.08.24 01:35:00 -
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Still sad about this. I will of course, look foward to whatever restructuring is going on with CRC. But I am going to miss AURORA very much. Especially as someone interested in joining. Player-run events are great, and player rping and all that. But AURORA was just able to have the tools to give it the occasional extra "Oomph".
Originally by: CCP Wrangler
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Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.24 09:09:00 -
[222]
Originally by: Dave White
Edited by: Dave White on 24/08/2007 00:52:38
Thank you, volunteers.
Will miss Hutch and the other forum mods
i will miss you all as well
- Thanks Hutch.
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Di-Tron Heavy Industries
Atlas Alliance
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Posted - 2007.08.24 11:56:00 -
[223]
Originally by: Eldo Davip
No
I'm
db preacher
really.
-dbp
Thread winner so far, TBH
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No Joy Corp
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:06:00 -
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"Dear roleplayers, your cars engine had some minor problems so we have removed it, don't worry you can still sit in the car."
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Posted - 2007.08.24 12:10:00 -
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Originally by: Daelin Blackleaf
"Dear roleplayers, your cars engine had some minor problems so we have removed it, don't worry you can still sit in the car."
Unfortunately, whilst this is way too blunt to put it, I have to say a lot of people feel the same way.
AURORA will be missed. Just get us a better engine CCP, or at least something to move the car with.
And no, not a donkey pulling the car. We dont like animals...
To ISD staff:
Its been a great pleasure watching (and at one time, participating) in RP events, and even in helping the newbies in Rookie Help so many months ago. I can see how much fun and yet, hard work it is, and I greatly appreciate it all.
I just wish more could be done to alleviate the worries of many, like myself.
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Posted - 2007.08.24 20:24:00 -
[226]
Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Originally by: Dave White
Edited by: Dave White on 24/08/2007 00:52:38
Thank you, volunteers.
Will miss Hutch and the other forum mods
i will miss you all as well
Take care hutch. As a final act of Seppuku, could you snip your own sig for being too long?
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Posted - 2007.08.26 21:37:00 -
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This is the first and only post I will ever make on this forum.
I met a group of amazing people in my short time at Aurora. From the first second I talked to them it was clear this was a group of incredibly clever, intelligent people. I feel CCP is making a mistake by letting so much talent go. There is very little in the way of details for anyone as to the future of events and forum moderation. I think I would speak for most or all of Aurora when I say we'd feel a lot better knowing there was a solid plan for the future of our work.
I'm astounded by the quality of people the program has attracted, and the quality of work they put out. Truly an honor and a privilege to have been able to act with such a wonderful group.
Thanks to Aurora. Actors, producers, and leads. Thanks to Galen for heading up this wonderful division.
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.27 21:23:00 -
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It is a sad day. Do not be misled into thinking that we all leave with joyous hearts and harmonious hymns. An immense amount of work was done by our teams. Thousands of hours of toil and labor to bring to fruition the very tools and resources we used to fulfill our charters. But all things change.
To you guys in aurora, we were the best that ever was, and probably ever will be.
For the legacy
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.28 02:54:00 -
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Originally by: Dylan Thomas
Do not go gentle into that good night,
Old age should burn and rave at close of day;
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Though wise men at their end know dark is right,
Because their words had forked no lightning they
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Good men, the last wave by, crying how bright
Their frail deeds might have danced in a green bay,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
Wild men who caught and sang the sun in flight,
And learn, too late, they grieved it on its way,
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Grave men, near death, who see with blinding sight
Blind eyes could blaze like meteors and be ***,
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
And you, my father, there on the sad height,
Curse, bless, me now with your fierce tears, I pray.
Do not go gentle into that good night.
Rage, rage against the dying of the light.
For me, I have found a new light and a new home in ISD.
To those who have chosen to move on, I will miss you. I am thankful for every second spent with each of you.
Let us move forward with nothing but fondness in our hearts for the time behind us and hope for what lies ahead as we strive to realise our dreams.
It has been a privilege and an honour to serve you as part of CRC.
Onwards...
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ISD STAR
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.08.28 15:45:00 -
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Whoooooops !
One goes on holidays for 20 days and when one comes back half of ISD is gone !
Dear friends,
Being a grown up man, I should not cry ... but reading this topic I am very close to it.
I have found in you friends that I will miss very much.
To me, it's a sad day.
CC
CoffeeCup
ISD:STAR Captain [way beyond 3yrs of insanity]
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Posted - 2007.08.28 23:18:00 -
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Edited by: Dark Guardian on 28/08/2007 23:23:29
Just wondering... is there a plan in the works to replace the volunteers who have been "fired" with a similar number of paid workers? Why not?
Just read that several of those who worked in Interstellar Correspondents, are now going to "[work] more closely with the staff of EVE TV." EVE TV is taking over the volunteer universe :( |
Helison
Gallente
Times of Ancar
Pure.
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CCP, are there any updates on forum moderation and specially Aurora?
I personally am not a roleplayer, but: I think that we need MORE CCP/Aurora-provided RP and not less (or nothing). I think that we should notice MORE RP ingame and not less.
And I think Eve really needs volunteers and lots of. They are keeping Eve alive. The day where CCP closes ISD will be the beginning of the end of Eve.
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Posted - 2007.08.29 13:25:00 -
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About time you get rid of those forum tyrants.
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ThaMa Gebir
Gallente
Raddick Explorations
Executive Outcomes
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Edited by: ThaMa Gebir on 01/09/2007 06:22:13
I am sad, upset and a little angry.
However; Your spirits will certainly live on in myself, I am a mod on a board or two, the eve-o volunteer spirit will not die.
I have just one question, will the avatars die aswell or will the people be allowed to keep them and show up in small events/on occasion to remind us of how life used to be, albeit with reduced/no admin rights etc?
Nonetheless I salute you all, I cried, I laughed, I sprayed coffee all over my work computer repeatedly...
Fly safely. <o
EDIT;Heh, I have just realised how prophetic my sig actually is after writing this...
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Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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PS: I'm glad AURORA is getting fired. I'd rather have no events in the future than the crap they try and feed us.
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Celedris
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.01 21:54:00 -
[236]
Good riddance to Aurora
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Sakura Nihil
Tabula Rasa Systems
The Star Fraction
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Posted - 2007.09.02 20:27:00 -
[237]
Le sigh.
So, we can't say our honest opinion on CRC and AURORA here on these forums without a mod deleting them? Smooth.
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Dark Cartel
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Posted - 2007.09.02 22:20:00 -
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Given the observable bias of the Forum Moderators and since they're being phased out, I was wondering if there would a removel of bans, warnings, etc. handed out during this period?
I think most people can ultimately agree there were some very questionable decisions rendered during the life of the forums and I accept CCP's moving moderator in house as a general nod towards these unfavourable practices.
So, will people be given a fresh start with an unbiased and accountable moderation team?
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Eshtir
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:07:00 -
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Observable bias?
Do you still dont get that we are watched closely by CCP? You really can stop to accuse my team of being biased. You either have proof and forward it to the internal affairs department or you dont.
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Posted - 2007.09.03 11:07:00 -
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Observable bias?
Do you still dont get that we are watched closely by CCP? You really can stop to accuse my team of being biased. You either have proof and forward it to the internal affairs department or you dont.
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Eldo Davip
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Posted - 2007.09.03 14:33:00 -
[241]
Originally by: Bek
So, will people be given a fresh start with an unbiased and accountable moderation team?
Accountable? We are fully accountable for our actions, with actions taken against our player accounts if we screw up. Like Eshtir said, you have proof or you dont. Stop posting crap (that's me being polite)
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Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.03 20:05:00 -
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Also remember that our ultimate leads were kieron and wrangler both employees of ccp and they had a global picture of all our work.
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Rauth Kivaro
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:04:00 -
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Every action we take as moderators on our volunteer accounts is trackable and we are held to account for our actions. I wouldn't be surprised if CCP keeps an eye on our main player accounts as well.
As volunteers we don't always catch everything, and as humans, we're not perfect, but bias? No.
If you believe there is evidence of malfeasance by a forum moderator or moderators, you should email [email protected] so they can investigate it.
forum rules | [email protected] | Our Website
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ISD Rauth Kivaro
ISD STAR
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Posted - 2007.09.03 23:04:00 -
[244]
Every action we take as moderators on our volunteer accounts is trackable and we are held to account for our actions. I wouldn't be surprised if CCP keeps an eye on our main player accounts as well.
As volunteers we don't always catch everything, and as humans, we're not perfect, but bias? No.
If you believe there is evidence of malfeasance by a forum moderator or moderators, you should email [email protected] so they can investigate it.
forum rules | [email protected] | Our Website
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Kreul Intentions
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:19:00 -
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Do you realize we always consulted with our forum moderator peers before we did things? In those channels were GMs, leads from other division and our own leads.
If you think there was any bias you could have always email [email protected], but apparently you would rather come to the forums and whine about no-existant bias.
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ISD BH Kreul Intentions
ISD BH
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:19:00 -
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Do you realize we always consulted with our forum moderator peers before we did things? In those channels were GMs, leads from other division and our own leads.
If you think there was any bias you could have always email [email protected], but apparently you would rather come to the forums and whine about no-existant bias.
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Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.04 14:27:00 -
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^^pwned
- Thanks Hutch.
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ôWar is not the dreadful end to all things as mankind fears. Conflict brings balance to nature as it adapts, mutates, and transforms itself into something stronger than before. Mankind is the master of nature because we can choose those mutations on our own accord. We can accelerate the inevitable dominance of a species. Through war, we can make ourselves stronger at the time and place of our choosing. War is not hell, far from it. War is beautiful. War is divine.ö
- Grand Admiral Mekioth Sarum, excerpt from a commencement speech to Paladin graduates of the Imperial Academy, 23215 AD |
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Scyd
Forum Moderator
Interstellar Services Department
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Posted - 2007.09.05 03:02:00 -
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Originally by: Huitzilopochtli Tlaloc
^^pwned
/signed
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Narciss Sevar
Caldari
Viper Squad
Triumvirate.
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Posted - 2007.09.06 16:07:00 -
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As you are all here answering questions. Were/are you allowed to moderate threads that involve your respective corps/alliances?
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Eldo Davip
Forum Moderator
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Posted - 2007.09.06 19:04:00 -
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Originally by: Narciss Sevar
As you are all here answering questions. Were/are you allowed to moderate threads that involve your respective corps/alliances?
Nope, they can't mod any thread involving their main's alliance or corp. If they do the lead/senior moderators find out and the mod in question either gets a really good spanking or gets kicked out of CRC.
-- Regardless, this is the end of the line for such questions. This isn't the place to discuss CRC policies. If you have questions, email us [email protected]
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Deviana Sevidon
Gallente
Cataclysm Enterprises
Kraftwerk.
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Posted - 2007.09.08 18:38:00 -
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The Mods in the CAOD Forum did a fine job in the past. Not that I agreed with all of their decisions, but overall there performance was quite good.
That brings me to point of the post, because if one place really needs close attention of moderators than its CAOD. Right now this place is a shame for the whole EVE community.
It seems the cats have already left or are on their way out and to say that the mice are dancing, would be a to mild description for what is happening there.
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Copine Callmeknau
Celestial Janissaries
Curatores Veritatis Alliance
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Posted - 2007.09.11 13:31:00 -
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What will happen to events?
Have been patiently waiting to join AURORA since I started playing, finally eligible a couple months ago, bit of a letdown to discover it's being terminated
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Originally by: Patch86
Depressing as hell though. By the end, you feel like someone's eaten your kitten.
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Neon Genesis
The Landed Gentry
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Posted - 2007.11.02 15:32:00 -
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Pull your pants up and give some moderation back to the forums. The changes sound dandy but you're hanging your community out to dry at the moment. The whole forum is a sewer at the moment.
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Laice
Caldari
The Greater Good
Novus Aevum
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Posted - 2007.12.04 13:55:00 -
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Originally by: Neon Genesis
Pull your pants up and give some moderation back to the forums. The changes sound dandy but you're hanging your community out to dry at the moment. The whole forum is a sewer at the moment.
/signed
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